I don't buy that argument at all. Take someone, in any game, especially when they are close to finishing it, and delete their saved game. Would they, even though they enjoyed the game up until that point, want to start over? Not many, and only for select games. Repeating content, even enjoyable content, is not something everyone wants to do. Sure I enjoyed that movie I just watched, but would I want you to start the movie over 5 minutes before the end? Hell no. I want to see the end.
"However all of the american peace activists would like to see evil USA wiped off the map anyways."
Did some peace activist kick you in the balls or something? Show me one citation, anywhere, of an AMERICAN peace activist wanting to see the USA wiped off the map.
"Our enemys are aware that even many of our own citizens are anti-USA"
Let me guess, I am anti-USA because I don't like Bush? Are Republicans anti-USA because they didn't like Clinton?
Maybe it is the server you play on. I have seen several Christian Guilds recruiting on Spirestone, the server I play on. There wasn't any "missionary" efforts of the such, but there are several guilds that advertise in game as "Christian Only."
Of course, this is only my anectdotal evidence. But your claim to having never seen one is anectdotal as well.
Google "Wow christian guild" for links.
Can't we have a special topic for all these "I quit playing and now have a life" posts? They are getting really old, and nobody really cares anyway.
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You made a pretty big leap there calling this guy a ganker and griefer simply because he likes PvP servers. And, at least in WoW, PvP servers are far from a "small niche" in the game.
We get your point, you don't like PvP, or at least PvP servers in a MMORPG. But many people do. I play on a PvP server because I like the challenge of going up against a real live human being rather than a AI controlled opponent. And many others do as well.
To add to your point, in the town with the guns, those guns are worthless if no one is home. And likely to get stolen along with the TV and DVD player.
"The main problem I have with the current industry is if the damn game sucks... They should refund me the cost, time, and sometimes effort wasted dealing with their issues."
I can understand if the game doesn't work, you should get a refund. But a refund just because you think the game sucks? Do movie theaters refund your ticket cost if the movie sucked? Does the book store refund your money if the book sucked? Does the concert venue refund your money if the concert sucked? Do some research, read reviews. If the game sucks, it is your fault for buying it. You could have found out it sucked before purchase.
"In Columbine, or many other places in the US, somebody shoots a whole load of people and there is outcry against computer games, rock music and everything but the one thing that allowed them to kill a large number of people. Doh!"
Amen Brother! (and I am an American)
I have had several gun freaks (people who own large numbers of firearms) actually tell me, when asked why they have so many guns, that they keep so many guns so they can stop the government from taking them.
Not sure where I read it, but it is my understanding that he has no intention of ever finishing the War Against the Chtorr series.
Because of Gerrold, I never start reading a series until the author has completed writing the entire series. Makes thing difficult sometimes, as it can be hard to find the first few books in the series several years after publishing.
"More people were killed in Ohio traffic accidents each year of this war than were killed in Iraq."
Yes, and 6 times more people die every year in the US due to inadequate health care, than died on 9/11. Where is our "War against Inadequate Health Care?" $2 trillion dollars spent. One bad leader removed. How much we gonna spend to remove all the rest of bad leaders in this world? How many corpses are we ignoring in Rwanda, Darfur, or Congo?
"On a separate note why is it that GWB is 'intolerant' yet gets more grief then radical Islamists who shoot you if you don't bow to Mecca a certain number of times a day?"
Because those islamists are not the leader of the "Land of the Free."
I think they concentrate on 20th Century wars, because those are the wars that they have film footage. You can only show those 12 Civil War reenactors so many times (blurred out usually) during that documentary on Shiloh.
I think it is kind of sad that the State of Utah's official state tourism site lists a copper mine as one of the state's attractions? Is Utah really that boring?
"So is this thing gone yet? If it were, I would consider playing WoW. As it stands, I cannot support a company who uses anti-cheating software such as this and sues reverse-engineers. No, I'm not trolling."
The word spyware or ethics do not appear anywhere in that post. How the fuck are we supposed to know that you are opposed to Blizzard's ethics based on the above post, rather than think you are opposed to anti-cheating software. And then you attack people for thinking, based on your post, that you are against anti-cheating software. We aren't psychics.
Asshole.
The 3.2 kw PV array on my roof only prevents the sunlight from hitting my roof. Don't see any real environmental impact there. I guess I am altering the energy balance of my roof.
Either way, arguments like this are stupid. We need energy, and there isn't a perfect way to obtain that energy. Every method has some impact. Personally, I would rather use a method with the least impact I can. The solar array on my roof definately has less impact than the coal burning power plant that supplies the grid power does. Heck, it even helps cool my house by shading the roof.
Alot of the arguments around here are to the effect of..."solar energy (PV in particular) has an environmenal impact, so lets ignore it." And by ignoring it, you are continuing with the status quo of coal and gas burning power plants, which have a LARGE environmental impact.
"Look at the no call list, anti spam, and anti trust laws as proof of this."
And those were sooo effective. The no call list is a joke as companies will use anything they can to justify a "previous relationship." I still get 1-2 calls a night, I am on the no call list, and I tell everyone who does call to take me off their list. And I still get 1-2 calls a night.
Anti Trust? Hahahahahah Sure, Microsoft was convicted of violating anti-trust laws. What was the penalty again? Probably the equivalent of 1/2 hour of profit for them.
These laws are like the TSA, they specialize in the "appearance" of protection.
You seem to have forgotten that the rootkit installed itself even if you declined the EULA.
Either way, you seem to believe that it is ok for Sony to do this because it is the fault of the computer user for allowing the rootkit to be installed?
How about some dates with those quotes? They lose some of their "impact" when we find they are from 1985 or something.
Either way, Kerry or Gore did not have the ability or power to verify the WMD lies. Kerry was only a Senator, Gore a private citizen. BUSH was the fucking president! He had every power, obligation, and responsibility to verify those claims were correct, which he obviously didn't. He ignored any information to the contrary of his beliefs and denounced those who said it.
It is estimated that 18,000 Americans die every year due to a lack of health care insurance. That is 6 times the number of people who died in 9/11 attacks, EVERY YEAR!
Where is our all out war against lack of health insurance? Why aren't we spending billions of dollars to prevent these tragic deaths? Shouldn't we take a few billion of the hundreds of billions we have spent on the war to save American lives rather than take Iraqi lives?
Care to provide some evidence for such an outrageous claim?
I would imagine that alot of those are "date rapes" and cameras in dark alleys won't do anything to stop those. Cameras in everyones bedrooms might....
Anyway, your point is useless. Cameras don't stop crimes like police officers do. Cameras only help catch the criminal after the fact, but won't actually stop the crime about to start or in progress. Maybe they could install remote operated guns on the cameras to stop the criminals?
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I don't buy that argument at all. Take someone, in any game, especially when they are close to finishing it, and delete their saved game. Would they, even though they enjoyed the game up until that point, want to start over? Not many, and only for select games. Repeating content, even enjoyable content, is not something everyone wants to do. Sure I enjoyed that movie I just watched, but would I want you to start the movie over 5 minutes before the end? Hell no. I want to see the end.
"However all of the american peace activists would like to see evil USA wiped off the map anyways."
Did some peace activist kick you in the balls or something? Show me one citation, anywhere, of an AMERICAN peace activist wanting to see the USA wiped off the map.
"Our enemys are aware that even many of our own citizens are anti-USA"
Let me guess, I am anti-USA because I don't like Bush? Are Republicans anti-USA because they didn't like Clinton?
Maybe it is the server you play on. I have seen several Christian Guilds recruiting on Spirestone, the server I play on. There wasn't any "missionary" efforts of the such, but there are several guilds that advertise in game as "Christian Only." Of course, this is only my anectdotal evidence. But your claim to having never seen one is anectdotal as well. Google "Wow christian guild" for links.
Can't we have a special topic for all these "I quit playing and now have a life" posts? They are getting really old, and nobody really cares anyway.
You made a pretty big leap there calling this guy a ganker and griefer simply because he likes PvP servers. And, at least in WoW, PvP servers are far from a "small niche" in the game.
We get your point, you don't like PvP, or at least PvP servers in a MMORPG. But many people do. I play on a PvP server because I like the challenge of going up against a real live human being rather than a AI controlled opponent. And many others do as well.
Stargate SG-1 was a Showtime original, then picked up by SciFi when Showtime cancelled it.
To add to your point, in the town with the guns, those guns are worthless if no one is home. And likely to get stolen along with the TV and DVD player.
The dog protects your property 24/7, while the gun only works when you are there.
"The main problem I have with the current industry is if the damn game sucks... They should refund me the cost, time, and sometimes effort wasted dealing with their issues."
I can understand if the game doesn't work, you should get a refund. But a refund just because you think the game sucks? Do movie theaters refund your ticket cost if the movie sucked? Does the book store refund your money if the book sucked? Does the concert venue refund your money if the concert sucked? Do some research, read reviews. If the game sucks, it is your fault for buying it. You could have found out it sucked before purchase.
"In Columbine, or many other places in the US, somebody shoots a whole load of people and there is outcry against computer games, rock music and everything but the one thing that allowed them to kill a large number of people. Doh!"
Amen Brother! (and I am an American)
I have had several gun freaks (people who own large numbers of firearms) actually tell me, when asked why they have so many guns, that they keep so many guns so they can stop the government from taking them.
Not sure where I read it, but it is my understanding that he has no intention of ever finishing the War Against the Chtorr series.
Because of Gerrold, I never start reading a series until the author has completed writing the entire series. Makes thing difficult sometimes, as it can be hard to find the first few books in the series several years after publishing.
Half of writing History is covering up the truth.
"More people were killed in Ohio traffic accidents each year of this war than were killed in Iraq."
Yes, and 6 times more people die every year in the US due to inadequate health care, than died on 9/11. Where is our "War against Inadequate Health Care?" $2 trillion dollars spent. One bad leader removed. How much we gonna spend to remove all the rest of bad leaders in this world? How many corpses are we ignoring in Rwanda, Darfur, or Congo?
"On a separate note why is it that GWB is 'intolerant' yet gets more grief then radical Islamists who shoot you if you don't bow to Mecca a certain number of times a day?"
Because those islamists are not the leader of the "Land of the Free."
I think they concentrate on 20th Century wars, because those are the wars that they have film footage. You can only show those 12 Civil War reenactors so many times (blurred out usually) during that documentary on Shiloh.
I think it is kind of sad that the State of Utah's official state tourism site lists a copper mine as one of the state's attractions? Is Utah really that boring?
"So is this thing gone yet? If it were, I would consider playing WoW. As it stands, I cannot support a company who uses anti-cheating software such as this and sues reverse-engineers. No, I'm not trolling." The word spyware or ethics do not appear anywhere in that post. How the fuck are we supposed to know that you are opposed to Blizzard's ethics based on the above post, rather than think you are opposed to anti-cheating software. And then you attack people for thinking, based on your post, that you are against anti-cheating software. We aren't psychics. Asshole.
Ever seen a coal burning power plant? Or a coal mine?
The 3.2 kw PV array on my roof only prevents the sunlight from hitting my roof. Don't see any real environmental impact there. I guess I am altering the energy balance of my roof.
Either way, arguments like this are stupid. We need energy, and there isn't a perfect way to obtain that energy. Every method has some impact. Personally, I would rather use a method with the least impact I can. The solar array on my roof definately has less impact than the coal burning power plant that supplies the grid power does. Heck, it even helps cool my house by shading the roof.
Alot of the arguments around here are to the effect of..."solar energy (PV in particular) has an environmenal impact, so lets ignore it." And by ignoring it, you are continuing with the status quo of coal and gas burning power plants, which have a LARGE environmental impact.
"Look at the no call list, anti spam, and anti trust laws as proof of this." And those were sooo effective. The no call list is a joke as companies will use anything they can to justify a "previous relationship." I still get 1-2 calls a night, I am on the no call list, and I tell everyone who does call to take me off their list. And I still get 1-2 calls a night. Anti Trust? Hahahahahah Sure, Microsoft was convicted of violating anti-trust laws. What was the penalty again? Probably the equivalent of 1/2 hour of profit for them. These laws are like the TSA, they specialize in the "appearance" of protection.
You seem to have forgotten that the rootkit installed itself even if you declined the EULA.
Either way, you seem to believe that it is ok for Sony to do this because it is the fault of the computer user for allowing the rootkit to be installed?
How about some dates with those quotes? They lose some of their "impact" when we find they are from 1985 or something. Either way, Kerry or Gore did not have the ability or power to verify the WMD lies. Kerry was only a Senator, Gore a private citizen. BUSH was the fucking president! He had every power, obligation, and responsibility to verify those claims were correct, which he obviously didn't. He ignored any information to the contrary of his beliefs and denounced those who said it.
Or how about "No one expected the levees to fail" said 4 days after the Hurricane.
How is the kool aid anyway?
It is estimated that 18,000 Americans die every year due to a lack of health care insurance. That is 6 times the number of people who died in 9/11 attacks, EVERY YEAR!
Where is our all out war against lack of health insurance? Why aren't we spending billions of dollars to prevent these tragic deaths? Shouldn't we take a few billion of the hundreds of billions we have spent on the war to save American lives rather than take Iraqi lives?
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Care to provide some evidence for such an outrageous claim?
I would imagine that alot of those are "date rapes" and cameras in dark alleys won't do anything to stop those. Cameras in everyones bedrooms might....
Anyway, your point is useless. Cameras don't stop crimes like police officers do. Cameras only help catch the criminal after the fact, but won't actually stop the crime about to start or in progress. Maybe they could install remote operated guns on the cameras to stop the criminals?