Everyone kind of missed my point. I was calling the government a bunch of terrorists for coming up with this whole concept of charging me for a service, then sending me to someone else and paying again to collect the data.
It may sound strange, but a part of me wishes I was you. I'm a gamer like a great many who may be reading this site, and I see a future where we are all "gamers". We will have no bodily form, rather a mind that can manipulate reality (or virtual reality) much as we play video games now. There was already in early 2004 a successful implant that allowed some hearing by inputting directly into the brain (midbrain). Not if but when, and all that.
You could have saved a lot of typing by simply saying "I'm an offensive moron. Thank you!"
How else are they going to be able to plug in a PCI card released after the last BIOS update?" My HP laptop is several years old; can anyone confirm this?
By downloading the latest firmware? The last time I checked, you can download just about anyone's firmware without a "maintenance contract".
This is what happens when you let college kids moderate an IT site.
The point of this is: Developers are well aware of OpenGL. If they can develope applications more quickly and easily in DirectX, then you can whine until you are blue in the face about OpenGL. It won't make any difference.
The only thing you can do is sit down and build the tools to show them why OpenGL is better. Nobody is doing that, everyone just thinks "I WANT TO PLAY A GAME IN LINUX SO I WILL BITCH ON A FORUM". That approach just makes Linux users look less technically inclined and also brings about the general mooch attitude most of you have when it comes to open source software.
While some may choose to mod this type of thing as flamebait, I say it for the good of the community.
Add to that, unfamiliarity of the interface and poor interoperability with the file formats your clients and partners are using (can you say microsoft monopoly?) and it's not worth the trouble.
So, you think the reason why OO on OSX sucks at handling common business file formats is because Microsoft has a monopoly? The next time I write bad code, I'll be sure to blame Microsoft too. Then, at least, I'll fit in with special people like yourself.
Would it really be that burdensome to ATI to publish some specs so that other people can write drivers?
Also since they have drivers for mac os X how much harder would it be to write linux drivers?
If it were cake, it would be done. Hang on, wait a second...... This is slashdot. You are supposed to already know why the GPU makers don't like releasing such details. Shame on you, I say.
So if any of you out in SlashLand have it in with some game developers (hey, it could happen), see if you can put in a good word for OpenGL and SDL.
That's why! None of these developers have ever heard of OpenGL and that is why most games are written for DirectX.
I would suggest running with your revelation and post messages on all the game dev forums you can find. Let them know about this fancy, new OpenGL and how great it is!
And we really need more than hot air from ATI.
They don't care enough to even invest the energy in generating said hot air. ATI is spending massive resources competing with nVidia in the GPU market. The percentage of users who would actually buy a different brand due to Linux driver support is probably like 1% if you think about it. Sure, people say Linux boxes make up ~13% of the Internet but I'm willing to bet most of those don't even have a monitor attached.
So, in other words, the target audience, the CEO/CIO/board of directors, is an audience that wants to be blown over with meaningless bullshit.
I am sure they, along with 99% of society, will give more points for style and effort over negative geek whine, such as yours, any day of the week. Now would be a good time to assess your place in the food chain and contemplate whether it is a good idea to go around advertising your lack of progress.
It's not so much about paranoia as Microsoft once again trying to force its "solution" on me, despite my wish to make another choice.
They aren't forcing anything. They just developed it to be used with the system's built in browser. Nothing big. If it bothers you, perhaps you should consider just running Linux?:)
Why do you care about using IE to connect to M$? I just let it connect and check for, download, but not install updates. Then, I flip through them to make sure they are applicable to my system before installing.
Are you really that frightened they will PWN you? Please visit my ebay store. The special this week: Tin-foil hats, half price!
Really embarassing - this company provided onsite tech services. Anyone who contracted them was pretty foolish IMO.
Heh heh. The second IT job I had was with a shop like that. We gave this image of being some big shots, which was easy with nice clothes and a snazzy store front. Anyway, we were selling major contracts to schools and businesses, but couldn't even keep our internal database up for more than a few hours.
Karma eventually killed them. In the dawn of the Internet era, they tried to fix their credit problems by going public. Well, some family owning a korean computer shop down the street bought 51% of the shares and immediately used their control to fire everyone. It was awesome.
My worry in taking an NT4 box to 2000 was the worm of the week. I was in no way eager to screw around with something that is working. I count on patches, backups, antivirus, and other measures to protect me from having a bad day. There won't be anymore patches for NT4. It's wormfood.
Well, a box that will be exposed to risks associated with worms should probably get an upgrade to something more actively patched. This goes beyond just the OS and into the realm of slim support for 3rd party security tools.
When I think of an NT server, I think of a backup server running an old, but stable build of NetBackup connected to a database server over a private network and not an Internet banking server.
In regards to worms: If you use Windows in a server enviroment, it is critical to firewall it off with a "what if" senario in mind. I like to keep them on their own vlan and away from any critical boxes. The firewall rules should contain rules blocking all access inbound and outbound, except for the specific addresses and ports required by software you are running. Outlook, IE, newsgroups, IRC, AIM, etc should never, never, ever be used like one may consider doing on a workstation.
I'm still waiting on some nice open source developers to attempt to clone some of the functionality of Cisco Security Agent (formerly Okena). There would be very little cause for worry if any Windows admin could sit down and define which binaries have permissions to what folders, libraries, and other resources. As a motivating factor, I can safely say M$ would hate you for making such a tool.
It will be interesting to see how many people take the Linux plunge and break from the swirling vortex of regular, forced product updates.
Swirling vortex? This is how you define an end to a product cycle which has been around over a decade? If you are running NT4 and have not upgraded since the start, then why start now? How is this nonsense insightful? Oh yes, it is a M$ bash. Duh.
I am betting very few, unfortunately. It's just too much of a leap for most people...when Windows XP/20XX offers such a warm fuzzy UI feeling.
Most admins remote desktop into a minimal interface and don't care about anything fuzzy. Personally, I use the old interface, no animation, 256 color icons, and no backgrounds regardless of whether it is NT4 or XP.
Face it, the reason why these boxes are running NT4 isn't because the admins wanted to run it that way. It was also not held back due to a licensing cost issue. They are likely running some 3rd party applications designed and supported only with NT4 in mind.
Don't forget the fact that just because M$ quit supporting it, they HAVE to upgrade. If the system is performing well, then why rush out to change anything? Do you really think a system you installed 11 years ago is going to run into any new problems requiring a call to M$ technical support? I highly doubt it.
First computer: MC-10 First console: Pong First cartrige console: 2600 First "portable" game system: Vectrex First IM: 300 baud modem connection to friend's computer First admin job: maintained WildCat! BBS for employer
I'm only 31 but I feel real old after saying that. The upside: I still game a lot, only this time I can afford a good PC and all the consoles and games my heart desires.:D
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Debian to be Marketed to Japan and China
:rolleyes:
I thought debian has been out for a number of years.
Probably because there is no slashdot/workstation section.
Thanks for posting this... It's not like people who actually read the thread didn't get to see virtually the same post fifty times. >:)
The above comment is the first in this thread to make any logical sense.
Nope. I don't use them.
Perhaps they should just give up since it costs so much.
Everyone kind of missed my point. I was calling the government a bunch of terrorists for coming up with this whole concept of charging me for a service, then sending me to someone else and paying again to collect the data.
So, I'm back to using a commercial service to get the weather information my tax dollars already paid for. ...and they call the crap on 9/11 terrorism.
So they saved a ton of money by choosing Linux as their OS, then don't invest the savings into redundancy.
Great work.
It may sound strange, but a part of me wishes I was you. I'm a gamer like a great many who may be reading this site, and I see a future where we are all "gamers". We will have no bodily form, rather a mind that can manipulate reality (or virtual reality) much as we play video games now. There was already in early 2004 a successful implant that allowed some hearing by inputting directly into the brain (midbrain). Not if but when, and all that.
You could have saved a lot of typing by simply saying "I'm an offensive moron. Thank you!"
How else are they going to be able to plug in a PCI card released after the last BIOS update?" My HP laptop is several years old; can anyone confirm this?
By downloading the latest firmware? The last time I checked, you can download just about anyone's firmware without a "maintenance contract".
This is what happens when you let college kids moderate an IT site.
The point of this is: Developers are well aware of OpenGL. If they can develope applications more quickly and easily in DirectX, then you can whine until you are blue in the face about OpenGL. It won't make any difference.
The only thing you can do is sit down and build the tools to show them why OpenGL is better. Nobody is doing that, everyone just thinks "I WANT TO PLAY A GAME IN LINUX SO I WILL BITCH ON A FORUM". That approach just makes Linux users look less technically inclined and also brings about the general mooch attitude most of you have when it comes to open source software.
While some may choose to mod this type of thing as flamebait, I say it for the good of the community.
Add to that, unfamiliarity of the interface and poor interoperability with the file formats your clients and partners are using (can you say microsoft monopoly?) and it's not worth the trouble.
So, you think the reason why OO on OSX sucks at handling common business file formats is because Microsoft has a monopoly? The next time I write bad code, I'll be sure to blame Microsoft too. Then, at least, I'll fit in with special people like yourself.
Would it really be that burdensome to ATI to publish some specs so that other people can write drivers?
Also since they have drivers for mac os X how much harder would it be to write linux drivers?
If it were cake, it would be done. Hang on, wait a second...... This is slashdot. You are supposed to already know why the GPU makers don't like releasing such details. Shame on you, I say.
So if any of you out in SlashLand have it in with some game developers (hey, it could happen), see if you can put in a good word for OpenGL and SDL.
That's why! None of these developers have ever heard of OpenGL and that is why most games are written for DirectX.
I would suggest running with your revelation and post messages on all the game dev forums you can find. Let them know about this fancy, new OpenGL and how great it is!
And we really need more than hot air from ATI.
They don't care enough to even invest the energy in generating said hot air. ATI is spending massive resources competing with nVidia in the GPU market. The percentage of users who would actually buy a different brand due to Linux driver support is probably like 1% if you think about it. Sure, people say Linux boxes make up ~13% of the Internet but I'm willing to bet most of those don't even have a monitor attached.
So, in other words, the target audience, the CEO/CIO/board of directors, is an audience that wants to be blown over with meaningless bullshit.
I am sure they, along with 99% of society, will give more points for style and effort over negative geek whine, such as yours, any day of the week. Now would be a good time to assess your place in the food chain and contemplate whether it is a good idea to go around advertising your lack of progress.
"Yes, HP was once a great company, before the current management took over."
Ya think? Don't blame management. Blame the investors for being ready to fire or sue the pants off that management if they don't produce numbers.
You have not noticed this phenomenon going around lately?
It's not so much about paranoia as Microsoft once again trying to force its "solution" on me, despite my wish to make another choice.
:)
They aren't forcing anything. They just developed it to be used with the system's built in browser. Nothing big. If it bothers you, perhaps you should consider just running Linux?
Now I can make my own beer and spend my money on geek things and not in beer anymore!
Actually, by the time you factor in the energy costs associated with making your own beer - buying from the store is actually cheaper.
Not always better, but definitely less expensive.
Why do you care about using IE to connect to M$? I just let it connect and check for, download, but not install updates. Then, I flip through them to make sure they are applicable to my system before installing.
Are you really that frightened they will PWN you? Please visit my ebay store. The special this week: Tin-foil hats, half price!
I'm going to finish my chicken pot pie before installing it.
Any stories of noobs installing this on their work computers yet?
Really embarassing - this company provided onsite tech services. Anyone who contracted them was pretty foolish IMO.
Heh heh. The second IT job I had was with a shop like that. We gave this image of being some big shots, which was easy with nice clothes and a snazzy store front. Anyway, we were selling major contracts to schools and businesses, but couldn't even keep our internal database up for more than a few hours.
Karma eventually killed them. In the dawn of the Internet era, they tried to fix their credit problems by going public. Well, some family owning a korean computer shop down the street bought 51% of the shares and immediately used their control to fire everyone. It was awesome.
My worry in taking an NT4 box to 2000 was the worm of the week. I was in no way eager to screw around with something that is working. I count on patches, backups, antivirus, and other measures to protect me from having a bad day. There won't be anymore patches for NT4. It's wormfood.
Well, a box that will be exposed to risks associated with worms should probably get an upgrade to something more actively patched. This goes beyond just the OS and into the realm of slim support for 3rd party security tools.
When I think of an NT server, I think of a backup server running an old, but stable build of NetBackup connected to a database server over a private network and not an Internet banking server.
In regards to worms: If you use Windows in a server enviroment, it is critical to firewall it off with a "what if" senario in mind. I like to keep them on their own vlan and away from any critical boxes. The firewall rules should contain rules blocking all access inbound and outbound, except for the specific addresses and ports required by software you are running. Outlook, IE, newsgroups, IRC, AIM, etc should never, never, ever be used like one may consider doing on a workstation.
I'm still waiting on some nice open source developers to attempt to clone some of the functionality of Cisco Security Agent (formerly Okena). There would be very little cause for worry if any Windows admin could sit down and define which binaries have permissions to what folders, libraries, and other resources. As a motivating factor, I can safely say M$ would hate you for making such a tool.
It will be interesting to see how many people take the Linux plunge and break from the swirling vortex of regular, forced product updates.
Swirling vortex? This is how you define an end to a product cycle which has been around over a decade? If you are running NT4 and have not upgraded since the start, then why start now? How is this nonsense insightful? Oh yes, it is a M$ bash. Duh.
I am betting very few, unfortunately. It's just too much of a leap for most people...when Windows XP/20XX offers such a warm fuzzy UI feeling.
Most admins remote desktop into a minimal interface and don't care about anything fuzzy. Personally, I use the old interface, no animation, 256 color icons, and no backgrounds regardless of whether it is NT4 or XP.
Face it, the reason why these boxes are running NT4 isn't because the admins wanted to run it that way. It was also not held back due to a licensing cost issue. They are likely running some 3rd party applications designed and supported only with NT4 in mind.
Don't forget the fact that just because M$ quit supporting it, they HAVE to upgrade. If the system is performing well, then why rush out to change anything? Do you really think a system you installed 11 years ago is going to run into any new problems requiring a call to M$ technical support? I highly doubt it.
I didn't say they had too. That wasn't my point.
I am just saying they SHOULD do more.
At least we will not have to continue reading stories counting down to when Microsoft finally ends support for it.
:)
This is good comedy guys. Don't be dicks, plz.
First computer: MC-10
:D
First console: Pong
First cartrige console: 2600
First "portable" game system: Vectrex
First IM: 300 baud modem connection to friend's computer
First admin job: maintained WildCat! BBS for employer
I'm only 31 but I feel real old after saying that. The upside: I still game a lot, only this time I can afford a good PC and all the consoles and games my heart desires.