The website is for a second-hand furniture store in Shanghai; I have no idea what the domain "021yy.org" has to do with the business. (Perhaps the IP address that the domain name resolves to used to be occupied by a different website, and that IP address was inherited by the furniture store but the old hostname still points to it.) The hostname www.021yy.org resolves to the IP address 116.251.210.33 (for *ahem* non-Comcast users, that is), which according to the Asia Pacific Network Information Centre is part of a block of IP addresses assigned to a hosting company in Singapore. I'm not blocked from accessing the IP address of the website over Comcast; I can ping and send web requests to the IP address 116.251.210.33 with no problem. Only the hostname fails to resolve. (I can still access the site by using a VPN or a proxy server.)
In the IRIX camp I have two Octanes sitting here. I used to have an O2, but it had an unfortunate accident.
In the Solaris camp I've got a Sun Blade 1500 and a Netra T1 sitting here.
Can't quite share all of what I have at work - but due to the products that my company releases we have it seems like as many different things we can get our hands on (like I said, all kinds of UNIX-y systems, all supported versions of OS X and Windows, iSeries (AS/400), etc). My job lets me play with all of the equipment that I would have loved to be able to in college.
IRIX, as of December 2013, is no longer receiving patches/bug fixes (so, IRIX 6.5 was supported from 1998 - almost 2014. Eat that Windows XP). I actually find myself under IRIX quite often these days (more so then any other UNIX I deal with (I deal with Solaris, OS X, AIX, and HP-UX at work), and I must say I really like how it's put together. I wish Linux was as easy to manage as IRIX is.
All the schools you mentioned are state funded (public, not private). The college I went to I certainly wasn't paying for the name, you've probably never head of Capitol College. There are a lot of reasons I picked them over a lot of larger, state schools (including University of Maryland, which I was also accepted into).
But even if I was not familiar with Linux; I wouldn't buy this because $2400 is 75% of a full semester college tuition, and this is just one class which might or might not turn out to be a good or useful class.
A price of $2400 for a couple weeks worth of coursework is obviously intended to provide profits for the institution putting the class on moreso than to provide an education at an economically reasonable price.
You obviously don't live in the United States. I went to a cheaper (private) college, and tuition when I was there (2006) was ~$9000 for a full time semester.
And what operating system would that be? Windows has me at Powershell and Command Prompt all the time. ESX has me there often too, for fixing things. IRIX and Solaris I'm there frequently too. Thinking about it, Android and iOS are probably the only two that I'm not at the CLI in.
My grandmother's on a laptop with Slackware + KDE. No issues since I gave it to her, told her click firefox for internet, and showed her where KDE games are located.
(My mother, on the other hand, is quite happy with Windows 7. My step father stays somewhat current on technology, and handles most of her troubles).
And it would never sell. Really what we need is something like iOS/OS X running on it - everyone knows the interface, you don't have to play with it, it doesn't randomly fall over, and the applications are locked down. Android's mistake is being too fragmented - different features by different carriers. I don't see how Ubuntu is defective by design either. Consumers want something that works, and does what they want it to do. They don't care about ideological arguments over licenses.
And it's lost on you why they can't update the kernel mid-release. For long term stability they have to keep the same kernel version. Microsoft, Sun Microsystems, SGI, IBM, and plenty others have realized that too. When RHEL 7 comes out it will have a 3.x kernel. But RHEL 6 MUST keep the same kernel to avoid breakage.
Doesn't run well for a lot of people. Need 64-bit features? You're out of luck (and Windows XP x64 was horrible). Need to run new versions of Microsoft Office? You're out of luck. Windows Update? Hope you have hours for it to finish. Windows XP is old, and is showing its age. Similar argument can be applied to my G5 Power Mac running OS X 10.5 (Quad G5, 12GB RAM), my SGI Octane running IRIX 6.5, and my SunBlade 1500 running Solaris 10. For the PPC and Sparc, install Firefox (or Aurora on Mac, since PPC isn't officially supported still), update Flash, and BAM! Just as useful as Windows XP to most people.
I remember someone saying they saw a laptop on Power Rangers (fairly recent season, like in the past 5 years, can't find reference now) running Ubuntu.
Have you used Linux 13 years ago? I have and MAN X SUCKS back then and it showed more easily. You do not realize it because you have very fast cpus with gobs of ram. But I remember X taking up just 75% of the ram before I could run any apps.
Yes, I ran Linux that long ago. Red Hat 6.1 on a Pentium 1 with 48MB RAM and a 1GB HDD. Ran at least as well as Windows 95 on that box.
It was not designed for multimedia, OpenGL, low latency, touch screens, low power phones or tablets, or even running a desktop program.
Funny, IRIX seemed to handle OpenGL and multimedia fantastically. And guess what? It's running X11 on what's now really old hardware (my Octane has a single 300MHz MIPS processor, with 1GB of RAM. My O2 (also with IRIX 6.5) had a 180MHz MIPS processor, 64MB RAM, and also handled OpenGL without hiccup. Ran Photoshop rather nicely too).
Thats right your code has to run in a server and another copy of itself as a client. Why?? Gnome hides some of this the openGL workarounds are to go to the linux kernel directly with DRM (where does that leave Solaris and FreeBSD users?) to get around that horrible hack of X.
It creates issues for Solaris and BSD running newer versions of GNOME. If you check Solaris 11 ships with GNOME 2.30 still, despite 3.x having been around for a while when Solaris 11 was put together. GNOME 3 can be built on FreeBSD, but it is not supported, nor is it considered stable. I hear that OpenBSD managed to get GNOME 3 working though, haven't looked into how they pulled that off. One user even said it's working on non-Intel platforms (they were on PPC).
I think Linux lost on the desktop because of X! We would not be fighting for 15 aweful years recreating Guis due to the lack of X working.
I think Linux lost on the desktop due to politics, not due to X. The community is too busy fighting with itself (X.org vs XFree86, GNOME 3, X11 vs Wayland vs Mir) to care about what the users want, or what the administrators want.
We didn't have years of recreating GUIs because of X not working. We had KDE because CDE was closed source, GNOME because some people didn't like the dual license QT was under, updates to GNOME and KDE (Both saw a lot of change in 2.x, KDE 3.x was fantastic, 4.x started to bloat too much; GNOME's greatest evolution was over the course of 2.x, 3.0 sucked as bad as KDE 4.0), and a lot of arguments that boiled down to 'we're just going to do what we want'
I'm in complete agreement with you. What they're doing is throwing away everything that used to work just to have something they can say they developed in a lot of cases. They're also making a lot of things Linux only, and throwing out compatibility with UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems.
Oh really? Wait, no, it only lasts as long as the developers stay interested. As soon as they come up with something different to work on you're 'impeding progress' by still wanting to use the older system. How many times does the init system need to be replaced? Don't like systemd? Tough, unless you're using Slackware or Gentoo. Don't like GRUB2? Tough. Don't like Wayland? You're a Luddite and won't matter soon anyway (I expect xorg to stop developing X11 when Wayland is released).
(if only XSGI or XSun would get a major update. Having only one X11 vendor that is actively adding new features is the problem.)
The nvidia driver has unlimited redistribution rights. It's the Linux guys that have an issue with free non-open source software (nvidia ships with Solaris (and Open Solaris) without issue).
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I wouldn't promise that at the high school I attended.
I've also used this with great success.
No - it's saying since you did your project wrong, we aren't changing how ours works so that you don't have to correct yours.
Well, there is also SurfaceFlinger and Quartz...
Sure it was - and yes, he could get there.
The website is for a second-hand furniture store in Shanghai; I have no idea what the domain "021yy.org" has to do with the business. (Perhaps the IP address that the domain name resolves to used to be occupied by a different website, and that IP address was inherited by the furniture store but the old hostname still points to it.) The hostname www.021yy.org resolves to the IP address 116.251.210.33 (for *ahem* non-Comcast users, that is), which according to the Asia Pacific Network Information Centre is part of a block of IP addresses assigned to a hosting company in Singapore. I'm not blocked from accessing the IP address of the website over Comcast; I can ping and send web requests to the IP address 116.251.210.33 with no problem. Only the hostname fails to resolve. (I can still access the site by using a VPN or a proxy server.)
In the IRIX camp I have two Octanes sitting here. I used to have an O2, but it had an unfortunate accident.
In the Solaris camp I've got a Sun Blade 1500 and a Netra T1 sitting here.
Can't quite share all of what I have at work - but due to the products that my company releases we have it seems like as many different things we can get our hands on (like I said, all kinds of UNIX-y systems, all supported versions of OS X and Windows, iSeries (AS/400), etc). My job lets me play with all of the equipment that I would have loved to be able to in college.
IRIX, as of December 2013, is no longer receiving patches/bug fixes (so, IRIX 6.5 was supported from 1998 - almost 2014. Eat that Windows XP). I actually find myself under IRIX quite often these days (more so then any other UNIX I deal with (I deal with Solaris, OS X, AIX, and HP-UX at work), and I must say I really like how it's put together. I wish Linux was as easy to manage as IRIX is.
All the schools you mentioned are state funded (public, not private). The college I went to I certainly wasn't paying for the name, you've probably never head of Capitol College. There are a lot of reasons I picked them over a lot of larger, state schools (including University of Maryland, which I was also accepted into).
But even if I was not familiar with Linux; I wouldn't buy this because $2400 is 75% of
a full semester college tuition, and this is just one class
which might or might not turn out to be a good or useful class.
A price of $2400 for a couple weeks worth of coursework is obviously intended to provide profits for the institution putting the class on moreso than to provide an education at an economically reasonable price.
You obviously don't live in the United States. I went to a cheaper (private) college, and tuition when I was there (2006) was ~$9000 for a full time semester.
Actually, to do a lot of things in the Microsoft world (*Exchange*) you have to use Powershell.
And what operating system would that be? Windows has me at Powershell and Command Prompt all the time. ESX has me there often too, for fixing things. IRIX and Solaris I'm there frequently too. Thinking about it, Android and iOS are probably the only two that I'm not at the CLI in.
My grandmother's on a laptop with Slackware + KDE. No issues since I gave it to her, told her click firefox for internet, and showed her where KDE games are located.
(My mother, on the other hand, is quite happy with Windows 7. My step father stays somewhat current on technology, and handles most of her troubles).
I always thought Garak was awesome. Never did find out exactly why he was exiled though.
The amount of the budget that NASA takes up our taxes wouldn't notice if they disappeared..
And it would never sell. Really what we need is something like iOS/OS X running on it - everyone knows the interface, you don't have to play with it, it doesn't randomly fall over, and the applications are locked down. Android's mistake is being too fragmented - different features by different carriers. I don't see how Ubuntu is defective by design either. Consumers want something that works, and does what they want it to do. They don't care about ideological arguments over licenses.
And it's lost on you why they can't update the kernel mid-release. For long term stability they have to keep the same kernel version. Microsoft, Sun Microsystems, SGI, IBM, and plenty others have realized that too. When RHEL 7 comes out it will have a 3.x kernel. But RHEL 6 MUST keep the same kernel to avoid breakage.
Doesn't run well for a lot of people. Need 64-bit features? You're out of luck (and Windows XP x64 was horrible). Need to run new versions of Microsoft Office? You're out of luck. Windows Update? Hope you have hours for it to finish. Windows XP is old, and is showing its age. Similar argument can be applied to my G5 Power Mac running OS X 10.5 (Quad G5, 12GB RAM), my SGI Octane running IRIX 6.5, and my SunBlade 1500 running Solaris 10. For the PPC and Sparc, install Firefox (or Aurora on Mac, since PPC isn't officially supported still), update Flash, and BAM! Just as useful as Windows XP to most people.
I remember someone saying they saw a laptop on Power Rangers (fairly recent season, like in the past 5 years, can't find reference now) running Ubuntu.
A friend of mine set up the slots here in MD (in one of the casinos anyway) and called me in surprise to tell me they were all running Linux.
The iSeries line (previously AS/400) are pretty tough boxes.
I've also heard them say "I've been mistaken"
Have you used Linux 13 years ago? I have and MAN X SUCKS back then and it showed more easily. You do not realize it because you have very fast cpus with gobs of ram. But I remember X taking up just 75% of the ram before I could run any apps.
Yes, I ran Linux that long ago. Red Hat 6.1 on a Pentium 1 with 48MB RAM and a 1GB HDD. Ran at least as well as Windows 95 on that box.
It was not designed for multimedia, OpenGL, low latency, touch screens, low power phones or tablets, or even running a desktop program.
Funny, IRIX seemed to handle OpenGL and multimedia fantastically. And guess what? It's running X11 on what's now really old hardware (my Octane has a single 300MHz MIPS processor, with 1GB of RAM. My O2 (also with IRIX 6.5) had a 180MHz MIPS processor, 64MB RAM, and also handled OpenGL without hiccup. Ran Photoshop rather nicely too).
Thats right your code has to run in a server and another copy of itself as a client. Why?? Gnome hides some of this the openGL workarounds are to go to the linux kernel directly with DRM (where does that leave Solaris and FreeBSD users?) to get around that horrible hack of X.
It creates issues for Solaris and BSD running newer versions of GNOME. If you check Solaris 11 ships with GNOME 2.30 still, despite 3.x having been around for a while when Solaris 11 was put together. GNOME 3 can be built on FreeBSD, but it is not supported, nor is it considered stable. I hear that OpenBSD managed to get GNOME 3 working though, haven't looked into how they pulled that off. One user even said it's working on non-Intel platforms (they were on PPC).
I think Linux lost on the desktop because of X! We would not be fighting for 15 aweful years recreating Guis due to the lack of X working.
I think Linux lost on the desktop due to politics, not due to X. The community is too busy fighting with itself (X.org vs XFree86, GNOME 3, X11 vs Wayland vs Mir) to care about what the users want, or what the administrators want.
We didn't have years of recreating GUIs because of X not working. We had KDE because CDE was closed source, GNOME because some people didn't like the dual license QT was under, updates to GNOME and KDE (Both saw a lot of change in 2.x, KDE 3.x was fantastic, 4.x started to bloat too much; GNOME's greatest evolution was over the course of 2.x, 3.0 sucked as bad as KDE 4.0), and a lot of arguments that boiled down to 'we're just going to do what we want'
I'm in complete agreement with you. What they're doing is throwing away everything that used to work just to have something they can say they developed in a lot of cases. They're also making a lot of things Linux only, and throwing out compatibility with UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems.
Oh really? Wait, no, it only lasts as long as the developers stay interested. As soon as they come up with something different to work on you're 'impeding progress' by still wanting to use the older system. How many times does the init system need to be replaced? Don't like systemd? Tough, unless you're using Slackware or Gentoo. Don't like GRUB2? Tough. Don't like Wayland? You're a Luddite and won't matter soon anyway (I expect xorg to stop developing X11 when Wayland is released).
(if only XSGI or XSun would get a major update. Having only one X11 vendor that is actively adding new features is the problem.)
The nvidia driver has unlimited redistribution rights. It's the Linux guys that have an issue with free non-open source software (nvidia ships with Solaris (and Open Solaris) without issue).