Except that they're not selling the word of God, but a translation that has taken hours and hours of careful work. And just like you expect to be paid to work, these people need to feed their families too. So before telling someone that they shouldn't eat, perhaps you should work for free first.
lol... "Christians" like to do that too. That is make generalizations on why a person is an atheist and claim that they have a strong emotional attachment to whatever made sense to them back when they were children. Ah well... (waits for emotional atheist to mod down for disagreeing)
We Christians like to do stuff like that too. We call it Jesus juking. For example, "It'd be great if people had as much excitement about sharing the Gospel as they do the scavenger hunt..." Judas (the guy who betrayed Jesus) was great at this sort of thing, too! "Why did you pour that expensive perfume when we could have used it on the poor?"
Not to use the God of the gaps crutch, but could Science consider the idea that an outside actor (God, aliens, etc...) terraformed the Earth? I'm no expert, but that seems like it could be a logical answer.
That being said. On the off chance that this is true; complaining about it now will give hints to the implementers on what we would not want in a console.
Though I agree that drug advertising should not target consumers; I 100% disagree that consumers shouldn't have any say over their prescriptions. I shouldn't have to take it on blind faith that my doctor is going to give me the right drug. I should have the right to research it and know what the pros and cons of taking a medicine is.
I agree. We don't need those things, but I was talking about the need for a Savior to forgive us for our sins. I know it's offensive to the perfect people out there. After all, what business does Jesus have saving jerks like me when he should be high fiving morally perfect guys like you who have it all figured out. Don't worry about it.
So, uh, can we call this a straw religion since you're attacking something that doesn't exist? Se my response above. Don't worry, a logical, honest, unselfish, giving guy like yourself don't need a Savior. You've got it all figured out. Jesus only came to save us hateful, selfish, lying, lustful sinners. So you're fine.
Christians do not believe that infants who die at birth are damned. As far as us non infants, most of us (not you of course) are selfish, hateful, lustful, prideful people. Jesus isn't for you. You can save yourself. He's for us screw ups. So don't worry about it.:)
I'm a creationist and a Christian and I agree. At work, I do not hide my beliefs. Heck, I have a framed image of a C.S. Lewis quote on my desk. Sometime I come to work wearing a shirt that says "Prays well with others" and has a quote from James on it. And if someone wants to engage me in a conversation on philosophy or religion, I'm game. But I don't go around passing DVDs and trying to convert my non-believing coworkers to believe in creationism. It's about the same as me trying to convince them that baptism by immersion is the true baptism. It's nonsensical to do. Now with my Christian friends, I would engage in deeper conversations about the various beliefs of Christianity, but that's a different story.
Here's the deal, as Christians, we should be trying to spread the Good News. That is, that we don't have to pay for our transgressions because they were paid for by God Himself. And we shouldn't do this by being disruptive, but through our works. At our jobs, we should strive to do our best. I should strive to be the best programmer I can be. I should let my actions be proof of my faith. Then my faith has merit.
You may be surprised, but I didn't have a religious upbringing. Quite the contrary. I came to the conclusion of Theism apart from family influences. I'm not a very emotional guy, I came to the conclusion using logic. It's really why I'm a huge fan of C.S. Lewis. Most "Christians" (nominal and actual) use a lot of emotion to argue their position. Very few are like Lewis who base their philosophy on logic. It helps that both Lewis and I are INTJ personality types.
Setting aside philosophies of naturalism vs theism where our ideas differ is how we define the conclusion that a person is evil. I view a desire to do evil as being evil where you define an evil action as being evil. In that sense, we're both correct in the context of our own philosophy and incorrect in the context of each other's philosophy.
Now one more correction I want to throw out there is the idea of a moral compass. I do not believe a moral compass comes from faith in God. I believe that, just like you, everyone instinctively knows what's right and what's wrong (though we differ on the belief where that instinct comes from). So in other words the atheist will know what's right and wrong and that having a religion is irrelevant to having this knowledge. For me to think otherwise would cause a lot of theological problems.
Real theists are very different from what you'd expect. Many churchgoers do fit your assumptions. But those who actually think this stuff is real in a logical and coherent way are very different.
What "distorts" my perception is that I know myself. I'm humble enough to know that I'm dishonest, lustful, hateful, and selfish. The "iron age mythology" simply confirms what I already know and is a useful illustration. This isn't an exercise in self loathing (on the contrary, I really think I'm awesome), but a recognition of facts and truths.
Basically what you're telling me is equivalent to telling me that 2 + 2 = 5. I know it is false because I know me. Thinking that any of us is naturally honest is simply wishful thinking. There's no need for theology or science to confirm such obvious truths. But then again, perhaps I'm wrong and I'm the rare exception that Dawkins writes about. I will say this. Cooperation does not mean moral or honest. I'm sure there were many who cooperated to destroy the Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, disabled, and others during the Holocaust.
Since we're recommending literature written by famous British evolutionists, I'd recommend reading "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. Lewis takes the opposite view in regards to natural goodness. But since we're both convinced that we know everything about each other's philosophies, I suppose it's futile for either one of us to recommend reading anything that might challenge our ideas and presuppositions. You don't want to waste your time reading up about "iron age mythologies" and I don't want to waste my time to read up on humanistic wishful thinking.
Excuse me while I am unable to stop laughing. It has always been in our human nature to be dishonest. If not, then there is no need for laws. You're probably too self righteous to care, but if you remember the story of the prodigal son; you, like most people, assume that the story is about the son who squandered everything, repented, and came back to his father. It's really about the other son. The "good" son. He did not know that he too was broken and so threw a fit about his father welcoming back the "bad" son. Likewise, you're so self righteous and "holier than thou" that you do not see that we are inherently dishonest and broken. Oh well.
Wait... Is this Slashdot!? You mean people can argue objectively from time to time and don't get buried? Must be a religious holiday for all the liberals out there.:)
That is until Madden's GENERIC FPS 2015 comes out! It'll be awesome. I hear this will be the first all DLC game! Plus you'll be entertained with ADVERTISING tailored to you! Or you could bypass all of that crap and just go with Nintendo, but we all know that Nintendoz iz 4 teh kiddiez!
If that's what they did, then more power to them. I tried doing the same. I don't care since it now works and they went above and beyond normal customer service.
lol... Why don't you go occupy Wall Street or something, you commoner. That's what common people do. "Special" people go out and do something. But I digress, I was deflecting the whole, "Blah, blah, blah, you're a terrible parent for letting your 4 year old play video games argument."
You know, this is a very valid point. If you want to go on a diet, don't tell fat people about it. If you want to get out of debt, don't tell broke people about it. If you want to raise your kids to be excellent, don't tell ignorant losers who kids can't speak without swearing and are positioned to grow up as losers. They do what they can to try to bring down excellent people back to there poor excuse for a level.
So, AC, if you are ready to be excellent one day, I'd recommend reading material from guys like Dave Ramsey and Bob Harper and not your broke fat facebook friends.
That's funny, but here's where it gets good. I sent the DSi to them. I fully expected them to give me a new/refurb DSi with the same games. BUT THEY REPAIRED IT!!!! ^_^ It had all the same saved files. The voice files, the pictures, the saved games, EVERYTHING. How they repaired it is beyond me, but somehow they were able to recover ALL of the data.
In case you're curious, the reason it got dropped in the toilet is because she is 4 years old. Now we have a rule that we don't bring electronics into the bathroom.
And to preempt everyone who thinks I'm a bad parent because I let my young kids play videogames; my daughter can read/recognize all colors, shapes, etc..., do basic 1st grade math, imagine, create stories, etc... So yeah, I let her play games. Besides how would I get the hero keys in Zelda Four Swords without her? Yeah. She's that awesome at games too.
Nintendo isn't quite as evil as you think. They're just unprepared. My daughter dropped her out of warranty DSi into the toilet. I called them up and asked them how to transfer the save data to a new 3DS (That I had in the closet waiting for Christmas). They couldn't do anything, so they repaired the DSi for free. Outside of warranty. The problem is that people are afraid to ask and see what they can get.
It's because Chrome is the better browser. It shouldn't matter that it comes from a mega company like Google. If a better product comes out, that should be king. Now why people are still using IE is beyond me.
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See my reply to fermion above. Same applies here.
Except that they're not selling the word of God, but a translation that has taken hours and hours of careful work. And just like you expect to be paid to work, these people need to feed their families too. So before telling someone that they shouldn't eat, perhaps you should work for free first.
lol... "Christians" like to do that too. That is make generalizations on why a person is an atheist and claim that they have a strong emotional attachment to whatever made sense to them back when they were children. Ah well... (waits for emotional atheist to mod down for disagreeing)
We Christians like to do stuff like that too. We call it Jesus juking. For example, "It'd be great if people had as much excitement about sharing the Gospel as they do the scavenger hunt..." Judas (the guy who betrayed Jesus) was great at this sort of thing, too! "Why did you pour that expensive perfume when we could have used it on the poor?"
Not to use the God of the gaps crutch, but could Science consider the idea that an outside actor (God, aliens, etc...) terraformed the Earth? I'm no expert, but that seems like it could be a logical answer.
That being said. On the off chance that this is true; complaining about it now will give hints to the implementers on what we would not want in a console.
Though I agree that drug advertising should not target consumers; I 100% disagree that consumers shouldn't have any say over their prescriptions. I shouldn't have to take it on blind faith that my doctor is going to give me the right drug. I should have the right to research it and know what the pros and cons of taking a medicine is.
I agree. We don't need those things, but I was talking about the need for a Savior to forgive us for our sins. I know it's offensive to the perfect people out there. After all, what business does Jesus have saving jerks like me when he should be high fiving morally perfect guys like you who have it all figured out. Don't worry about it.
So, uh, can we call this a straw religion since you're attacking something that doesn't exist? Se my response above. Don't worry, a logical, honest, unselfish, giving guy like yourself don't need a Savior. You've got it all figured out. Jesus only came to save us hateful, selfish, lying, lustful sinners. So you're fine.
Christians do not believe that infants who die at birth are damned. As far as us non infants, most of us (not you of course) are selfish, hateful, lustful, prideful people. Jesus isn't for you. You can save yourself. He's for us screw ups. So don't worry about it. :)
I'm a creationist and a Christian and I agree. At work, I do not hide my beliefs. Heck, I have a framed image of a C.S. Lewis quote on my desk. Sometime I come to work wearing a shirt that says "Prays well with others" and has a quote from James on it. And if someone wants to engage me in a conversation on philosophy or religion, I'm game. But I don't go around passing DVDs and trying to convert my non-believing coworkers to believe in creationism. It's about the same as me trying to convince them that baptism by immersion is the true baptism. It's nonsensical to do. Now with my Christian friends, I would engage in deeper conversations about the various beliefs of Christianity, but that's a different story.
Here's the deal, as Christians, we should be trying to spread the Good News. That is, that we don't have to pay for our transgressions because they were paid for by God Himself. And we shouldn't do this by being disruptive, but through our works. At our jobs, we should strive to do our best. I should strive to be the best programmer I can be. I should let my actions be proof of my faith. Then my faith has merit.
Pepsi Throwback. My wife is allergic to HFCS. So that's what she drinks.
Did we just violate Godwin's law here? :)
You may be surprised, but I didn't have a religious upbringing. Quite the contrary. I came to the conclusion of Theism apart from family influences. I'm not a very emotional guy, I came to the conclusion using logic. It's really why I'm a huge fan of C.S. Lewis. Most "Christians" (nominal and actual) use a lot of emotion to argue their position. Very few are like Lewis who base their philosophy on logic. It helps that both Lewis and I are INTJ personality types.
Setting aside philosophies of naturalism vs theism where our ideas differ is how we define the conclusion that a person is evil. I view a desire to do evil as being evil where you define an evil action as being evil. In that sense, we're both correct in the context of our own philosophy and incorrect in the context of each other's philosophy.
Now one more correction I want to throw out there is the idea of a moral compass. I do not believe a moral compass comes from faith in God. I believe that, just like you, everyone instinctively knows what's right and what's wrong (though we differ on the belief where that instinct comes from). So in other words the atheist will know what's right and wrong and that having a religion is irrelevant to having this knowledge. For me to think otherwise would cause a lot of theological problems.
Real theists are very different from what you'd expect. Many churchgoers do fit your assumptions. But those who actually think this stuff is real in a logical and coherent way are very different.
What "distorts" my perception is that I know myself. I'm humble enough to know that I'm dishonest, lustful, hateful, and selfish. The "iron age mythology" simply confirms what I already know and is a useful illustration. This isn't an exercise in self loathing (on the contrary, I really think I'm awesome), but a recognition of facts and truths.
Basically what you're telling me is equivalent to telling me that 2 + 2 = 5. I know it is false because I know me. Thinking that any of us is naturally honest is simply wishful thinking. There's no need for theology or science to confirm such obvious truths. But then again, perhaps I'm wrong and I'm the rare exception that Dawkins writes about. I will say this. Cooperation does not mean moral or honest. I'm sure there were many who cooperated to destroy the Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, disabled, and others during the Holocaust.
Since we're recommending literature written by famous British evolutionists, I'd recommend reading "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. Lewis takes the opposite view in regards to natural goodness. But since we're both convinced that we know everything about each other's philosophies, I suppose it's futile for either one of us to recommend reading anything that might challenge our ideas and presuppositions. You don't want to waste your time reading up about "iron age mythologies" and I don't want to waste my time to read up on humanistic wishful thinking.
Excuse me while I am unable to stop laughing. It has always been in our human nature to be dishonest. If not, then there is no need for laws. You're probably too self righteous to care, but if you remember the story of the prodigal son; you, like most people, assume that the story is about the son who squandered everything, repented, and came back to his father. It's really about the other son. The "good" son. He did not know that he too was broken and so threw a fit about his father welcoming back the "bad" son. Likewise, you're so self righteous and "holier than thou" that you do not see that we are inherently dishonest and broken. Oh well.
Wait... Is this Slashdot!? You mean people can argue objectively from time to time and don't get buried? Must be a religious holiday for all the liberals out there. :)
That is until Madden's GENERIC FPS 2015 comes out! It'll be awesome. I hear this will be the first all DLC game! Plus you'll be entertained with ADVERTISING tailored to you! Or you could bypass all of that crap and just go with Nintendo, but we all know that Nintendoz iz 4 teh kiddiez!
Religion is the root of all evil! If only the North Koreans were one of those super moral atheists. Uh... Nevermind! :)
Nobody.
If that's what they did, then more power to them. I tried doing the same. I don't care since it now works and they went above and beyond normal customer service.
lol... Why don't you go occupy Wall Street or something, you commoner. That's what common people do. "Special" people go out and do something. But I digress, I was deflecting the whole, "Blah, blah, blah, you're a terrible parent for letting your 4 year old play video games argument."
You know, this is a very valid point. If you want to go on a diet, don't tell fat people about it. If you want to get out of debt, don't tell broke people about it. If you want to raise your kids to be excellent, don't tell ignorant losers who kids can't speak without swearing and are positioned to grow up as losers. They do what they can to try to bring down excellent people back to there poor excuse for a level.
So, AC, if you are ready to be excellent one day, I'd recommend reading material from guys like Dave Ramsey and Bob Harper and not your broke fat facebook friends.
That's funny, but here's where it gets good. I sent the DSi to them. I fully expected them to give me a new/refurb DSi with the same games. BUT THEY REPAIRED IT!!!! ^_^ It had all the same saved files. The voice files, the pictures, the saved games, EVERYTHING. How they repaired it is beyond me, but somehow they were able to recover ALL of the data.
In case you're curious, the reason it got dropped in the toilet is because she is 4 years old. Now we have a rule that we don't bring electronics into the bathroom.
And to preempt everyone who thinks I'm a bad parent because I let my young kids play videogames; my daughter can read/recognize all colors, shapes, etc..., do basic 1st grade math, imagine, create stories, etc... So yeah, I let her play games. Besides how would I get the hero keys in Zelda Four Swords without her? Yeah. She's that awesome at games too.
Nintendo isn't quite as evil as you think. They're just unprepared. My daughter dropped her out of warranty DSi into the toilet. I called them up and asked them how to transfer the save data to a new 3DS (That I had in the closet waiting for Christmas). They couldn't do anything, so they repaired the DSi for free. Outside of warranty. The problem is that people are afraid to ask and see what they can get.
It's because Chrome is the better browser. It shouldn't matter that it comes from a mega company like Google. If a better product comes out, that should be king. Now why people are still using IE is beyond me.