Ethical refers to the fact that no damage is done by such practices.
The RIAA does not recieve money from allofmp3, but the artist does. Since the music belongs to the artist, no damage is being done.
Canada pays for the drugs from the USofA at a fair rate that allows research to be continually funded, again no harm is being done. They don't pay the 30% of pharmaceutical money that in the USA is spent on advertisments, but so what? Drug pushing should not be legal to begin with.
You may feel it such loopholes around archaic laws are immoral, but you cannot demonstrate that they are unethical.
It might be a bad analogy, but flamebait?
C'mon people, try harder.
There are legitimate legal allowances for copying materials, and if I wish to provide a file online for people to copy, it's not my job to monitor whether or not they are breaking the law.
Ah, I understand now. So it's illegal for me to make an mp3 from my CDs, even if I then cut up the CD afterwards. And it's illegal to play an mp3 via my home network, since it copies that mp3 to my local machine before playing it. And it's illegal for me to move that mp3 from one hdd to the other, since it will temporarily exist on both.
I had no idea that every action involving mp3s was a criminal one.
But uploading a song is not a crime in any real sense of the word. If I lend you a book, and you make illegal photocopies from that book, I'm not a criminal for allowing you to borrow it.
Even worse. What business does an SUV have existing if it's not even got 4x4? I mean, good grief, that's the only good thing any SUV has! That's the only reason I'd ever use one, anyway.
Ah well. I did know that. I just try to block the really painful stupidities of this world out.
And my employer owns compaqs because "everyone says" they're good computers, even though we've never had much luck with them. So maybe it is brainwashing afterall, but it's self inflicted in any case.
You're misunderstanding the argument. The public isn't brainwashed, simply ignorant. I just bought a canon printer, because they're really good printers. It took 2 days of research to talk myself out of just buying an HP, because everyone else has one. I almost bought one anyway, because everyone else has one.
And... 99% of SUV owners are such because they are assholes. Not because they "need" 4x4 for city streets.
This amused me a lot, although in a sad and depressing way. You realize, calling him a troll for pointing out that Iraq was not involved in 9/11/01.. that just proves that he's right.
Information wants to be free. People want to ignore information they don't like. People win.
You don't NEED a later model computer to surf the net, you can surf just fine with a 486, but do you want to? Are you still on a 486 era computer,
You lost me, right there. I don't use a 486 because I can't buy them anymore, if I could it'd probably cost more than an AMD 2600. The market moved, so I moved with it. But neither do I own a pentiumVI 3.2GH with hyperthreading and a 800MHz bus. I mean, hey, I just read slashdot.
I have no problem with people who use a 4-wheel drive vehicle to get to and from home in the mountains near here. I do have a problem with the people who use a hummer to drive through the city, and only the city. I mean, you get 8 miles per gallon, and you're proud of yourself for being an idiot? My prius goes offroad quite well, climbs hills and plunges through snow. I don't need a hummer, because the roads here would be too narrow for one anyhow, and I like only paying $10 to go 200 miles. I'm not making a sacrifice here, I'm driving a vehicle that benefits me, and doesn't do unnecesary harm at the same time.
You claim your tractor sees a lot of miles, but you don't explain how this justifies using a hummer to drive around in city traffic. Which is the issue, since we're talking about the 99% of SUVs that are used just that way, not the 1% you claim is you.
These got popular because they filled a "needs" niche so well,
I feel the "need" to breathe, too. Or maybe that's just a "want". Maybe people should learn to tell the difference, instead of taking years off their children's lives by polluting their lungs even further.
Those octopi whose arms did tangle were eventually removed from the gene pool.
Let me analogize this conversation momentarily.
"How do jetplanes fly?"
"Oh, well, people built thousands of devices, attempting to make them fly, and eventually discovered that that design worked best."
Your answer is true, but completely irrelevant to the question asked. We know where the octopus came from. We want to know where it is.
I've read up on this. The trick is, slashdot needs to be loaded before rendering in order to render correctly. So refreshing will sometimes work, but ctrl[+]ctrl[-] will always work, and doesn't require extra bandwidth. Anyrate, my connection is fast enough that it's never happened to me.
I want to look up "luxury gift, french fashion, handbag and accessories, leather luggage." But I don't want to type all that, and I know Voitton, among others, sells that crap. So I type Voitton instead.
As a consumer, I never expected to find out that it was illegal for a competitor to advertise in the "Voitton" section of a website or magazine. That's why they're called competitors, because they're expected to try and steal your customers. That's what advertising is for.
About a million years ago, slashdot did not render correctly under firefox. I don't know what version, since I started using firefox 0.8, and have never witnessed this "bug" But it's to do with attempting to put the page together before it's fully downloaded, and pushing [ctrl][+] then [ctrl][-] fixed it, apparently.
You can run a decompiler on the most non-obvious executable and see exactly what it does. The trivial ability to copy code as well as its transparency has turned the tables on the competitive market.
Yup, just last week I reverse-engineered MS Windows and fixed a couple bugs. The only thing preventing me from releasing Changasoft Windows 2005 is patent law.
If I saw a bank robbery happening, and recognized the guys doing it, and didn't turn them in, I wouldn't get sentenced as a bank robber. Even
if I scribbled my name on a bag of money.
I mean sure, he's a "criminal" but he's not the one who created an OS with a security hole large enough to drive a truck through.
I don't mind when applications are slow, I dislike it when I'm in Iexplore.exe (the windows shell) and I click on something, and it ignores me because it's busy loading something else. Not slows down, flat out throws away my keyboard input. And my HDD is 4 times faster than it was, so why does a word procesor take twice as long to load? Because programmer time is more valuable than user time, a model that will remain true until normal users realize that they're getting shafted (read: never)
And nothing happens to my current software, but I like to run new hardware, which requires new drivers, which requires newer software, which rquires newer hardware. It's a consumer-based society for a reason.
several compaqs had that same limitation, I don't recall which ones.
The RIAA does not recieve money from allofmp3, but the artist does. Since the music belongs to the artist, no damage is being done.
Canada pays for the drugs from the USofA at a fair rate that allows research to be continually funded, again no harm is being done. They don't pay the 30% of pharmaceutical money that in the USA is spent on advertisments, but so what? Drug pushing should not be legal to begin with.
You may feel it such loopholes around archaic laws are immoral, but you cannot demonstrate that they are unethical.
C'mon people, try harder.
There are legitimate legal allowances for copying materials, and if I wish to provide a file online for people to copy, it's not my job to monitor whether or not they are breaking the law.
Ah, I understand now. So it's illegal for me to make an mp3 from my CDs, even if I then cut up the CD afterwards. And it's illegal to play an mp3 via my home network, since it copies that mp3 to my local machine before playing it. And it's illegal for me to move that mp3 from one hdd to the other, since it will temporarily exist on both. I had no idea that every action involving mp3s was a criminal one.
But uploading a song is not a crime in any real sense of the word. If I lend you a book, and you make illegal photocopies from that book, I'm not a criminal for allowing you to borrow it.
yes and no. allofmp3 is high quality files. And it's like buying prescription drugs in canada: it's illegal, but not unethical.
Using javascript, IE can support png transparency.
I won't link to my source directly, because it's a meltable server.
If he's not using a trend-setting browser like FF, he at least needs to get IE5.5
Maybe (gasp) because OSS works!!!
Back off Billy, your sily jedi mind tricks have no effect on me.
I say, it's about time China recieved the same lack of freedoms that we have right here in the good old US of A.
Even worse. What business does an SUV have existing if it's not even got 4x4? I mean, good grief, that's the only good thing any SUV has! That's the only reason I'd ever use one, anyway. Ah well. I did know that. I just try to block the really painful stupidities of this world out. And my employer owns compaqs because "everyone says" they're good computers, even though we've never had much luck with them. So maybe it is brainwashing afterall, but it's self inflicted in any case.
And... 99% of SUV owners are such because they are assholes. Not because they "need" 4x4 for city streets.
I sure didn't say we should change the law.
I said SUV drivers are assholes.
pus, I don't even have a etter '' key.
Information wants to be free. People want to ignore information they don't like. People win.
You lost me, right there. I don't use a 486 because I can't buy them anymore, if I could it'd probably cost more than an AMD 2600. The market moved, so I moved with it. But neither do I own a pentiumVI 3.2GH with hyperthreading and a 800MHz bus. I mean, hey, I just read slashdot.
I have no problem with people who use a 4-wheel drive vehicle to get to and from home in the mountains near here. I do have a problem with the people who use a hummer to drive through the city, and only the city. I mean, you get 8 miles per gallon, and you're proud of yourself for being an idiot? My prius goes offroad quite well, climbs hills and plunges through snow. I don't need a hummer, because the roads here would be too narrow for one anyhow, and I like only paying $10 to go 200 miles. I'm not making a sacrifice here, I'm driving a vehicle that benefits me, and doesn't do unnecesary harm at the same time.
You claim your tractor sees a lot of miles, but you don't explain how this justifies using a hummer to drive around in city traffic. Which is the issue, since we're talking about the 99% of SUVs that are used just that way, not the 1% you claim is you.
These got popular because they filled a "needs" niche so well,
I feel the "need" to breathe, too. Or maybe that's just a "want". Maybe people should learn to tell the difference, instead of taking years off their children's lives by polluting their lungs even further.
Let me analogize this conversation momentarily.
"How do jetplanes fly?"
"Oh, well, people built thousands of devices, attempting to make them fly, and eventually discovered that that design worked best."
Your answer is true, but completely irrelevant to the question asked. We know where the octopus came from. We want to know where it is.
why woud a firefox user ever use RSS via myYahoo? It's already built into my browser, I don't need a protal for it.
nobody goofs off in a text-only environment
yup
I've read up on this. The trick is, slashdot needs to be loaded before rendering in order to render correctly. So refreshing will sometimes work, but ctrl[+]ctrl[-] will always work, and doesn't require extra bandwidth. Anyrate, my connection is fast enough that it's never happened to me.
As a consumer, I never expected to find out that it was illegal for a competitor to advertise in the "Voitton" section of a website or magazine. That's why they're called competitors, because they're expected to try and steal your customers. That's what advertising is for.
About a million years ago, slashdot did not render correctly under firefox. I don't know what version, since I started using firefox 0.8, and have never witnessed this "bug" But it's to do with attempting to put the page together before it's fully downloaded, and pushing [ctrl][+] then [ctrl][-] fixed it, apparently.
Yup, just last week I reverse-engineered MS Windows and fixed a couple bugs. The only thing preventing me from releasing Changasoft Windows 2005 is patent law.
Because it's that easy.[/sarcasm]
If I saw a bank robbery happening, and recognized the guys doing it, and didn't turn them in, I wouldn't get sentenced as a bank robber. Even if I scribbled my name on a bag of money.
I mean sure, he's a "criminal" but he's not the one who created an OS with a security hole large enough to drive a truck through.
I don't mind when applications are slow, I dislike it when I'm in Iexplore.exe (the windows shell) and I click on something, and it ignores me because it's busy loading something else. Not slows down, flat out throws away my keyboard input. And my HDD is 4 times faster than it was, so why does a word procesor take twice as long to load? Because programmer time is more valuable than user time, a model that will remain true until normal users realize that they're getting shafted (read: never)
And nothing happens to my current software, but I like to run new hardware, which requires new drivers, which requires newer software, which rquires newer hardware. It's a consumer-based society for a reason.