My chiropractor found out about the BSA the hard way. He had 2... count 'em 2, machines in his office, both running Win2k, Microsoft Office, and some accounting and scheduling software. He got a nice little letter from the BSA saying they wanted to do an audit. He had no idea where his license info was, it's just him and his wife running a 2-exam-room office and he called me in a panic. I had told him about the Ernie Ball Case previously - he was all sorts of freaked out. Short of shelling out hundreds of dollars for new licenses, he was screwed. Granted, Ernie Ball is a larger company that might be able to suck it up, but it could mean financial ruin for a husband & wife operation. He's now happily running Debian and OpenOffice on both machines. He had been planning on buying an updated version of his accounting/scheduling software regardless, and we found that it runs perfectly under wine. He won't be hearing from the BSA again any time soon.
Also, let's not forget how easy software installation on Windows and MacOS is. Download setup.exe, install, run.
Sorry sir, but you're dead wrong on this one. If that's all you're doing, then you're going to have every virus/trojan known to man on your machine within a week, though that may not be the case for MacOS. Using Microsoft Windows, if you don't want to get every known virus/trojan, you have to: Find and download $PROGRAM to install Hope it's in exe or msi format. Damn, it's in "compressed" format Go find $DECOMPRESSOR and download Scan $DECOMPRESSOR for viruses Install $DECOMPRESSOR Crap, I'm not admin Log in as admin Install $DECOMPRESSOR Reboot Log in Scan $PROGRAM for viruses Decompress $PROGRAM Doubleclick exe/msi installer Crap, I'm not admin Log in as admin Doubleclick exe/msi installer Click "Next" to continue Accept 27 page EULA Click "Next" to continue Confirm "install type", full/minimal/custom Click "Next" to continue Confirm/alter install path Click "Next" to continue Do you want a program group created? y/n Click "Next" to continue Do you want a desktop icon created? y/n Click "Next" to continue Watch progress bar... Click "Next" to continue Do you want to read the README.txt now? y/n Click "Next" to continue Do you want to create a desktop shortcut? y/n Click "Next" to continue Do you want to run the internet updater? y/n If Y, click "Next" to continue to repeat previous instructions, if N, then click "Next" to continue $PROGRAM has been installed to $PATHBLAHBLAH, please register, would you like to do so now? y/n Click "Next" to continue Installation complete, Click "Exit" to finish You must reboot for changes to take effect, do you want to reboot now? Reboot/Cancel Reboot Log in Click on desktop icon that was created even though 'No' was answered for that question
That may be a slight exaggeration... and I emphasize slight.
I'll take: Click on the menu Synaptic [insert yast, urmpi, whatever] Enter root pass Find $PROGRAM Install $PROGRAM Close Synaptic Use $PROGRAM
Dependency hell went out years ago with the advent of modern package menagement. Short of compiling some funky thing you nab off of sourceforge, you're unlikely to have any problems in that regard.
Perhaps 3 fronts. Microsoft just made a direct connection between OSS and kiddie porn. Whether or not it's a 'good' connection is irrelavent. The connection's made, just like the senators tring to associate P2P with kiddie porn. Any connotation with kiddie porn is a bad connotation in this "WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!11!!oneone!!OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!" world.
Nowhere does it say there are zero bugs, not even in the quote you pasted. What it does say, however, is that Firefox doesn't have the software holes, namely Active-X garbage (which IE does), that allow the spyware in. He's just saying so in plain language for non-geeks, who couldn't care less what Active-X is anyway.
I can't say about the demographic you're referring to, but for the younger girls... One would hope, however, that Mattel puts a bit more thought into it then they did the Barbie/HotWheelsPCs a few years back.
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!11!!oneone!!OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!
The ever-lasting cry of 'moral-superiority'.
To paraphrase a modern day philosopher... "I love to go down to the schoolyard and watch all the little children jump up and down and run around yelling and screaming. They don't know I'm only using blanks."
But does that count when there are only 2 paragraphs on each page? Either the author hasn't heard of a "scroll bar" in a browser, or the author's _seriously_ whoring out the ad-hits. Since the former is unlikely... What an un-fun way to try and read an article.
That was the first question I asked a buddy of mine when he made note of this when it first came out on March 15. His wife's (then financee's) info was compromised, even though she'd graduated from there a couple of years earlier. From the sound of it, they got used as a dump site. Sounds like someone needs to be fired.
One of those arguments is that we need commercial developers for Linux. Lo and behold when a commercial developer ante's up and makes product for Linux - they are beat up for their decision.
Perhaps you're reading into this wrong, or missing a few points.
1. That's fine but it isn't open sourced.
You know what? That sometimes mean a awful lot, to an awful lot of people.
2. Bahhh we have an opensource equivalent already.
That's a HUGE point though. It's not like there was some incredible innovation done in this case. It's not like it's a new product, or something that's missing, something like Photoshop. It's a frikken cd burning program, something which there are literally dozens and dozens of - and superb ones at that - already.
3. It doesn't work on my weird (read low marketshare) version of Linux.
Since when is a Fedora/Redhat platform a "weird (read low marketshare) version of Linux"?
Why can't we be positive? Why can't we embrace Ahead for their efforts and simply say - Good Job on your (read) 1st version?
We can, but unfortunately, they aren't the first (they aren't even the first to do a cd burning utility) for Linux. We've seen just how 'less than satisfactory' other things have turned out before... for whatever reason. Skepticism is only natural, and healthy, in a case like this.
...This is a mainstream company willing to take pay-per-use apps on Linux seriously....
Yes, and that's nice and all, but they're scratching an itch that's already been scratched - for ages now - and with superb tools that have zero cost to the end user. Sheesh... you can only use the "free" version of NeroLINUX if you've paid for a Microsoft Windows version. So, if you don't even use Microsoft Windows, you have to buy an app for it anyway. No thanks.
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So many crash jokes.... quiver...
... amused by the filename "big_monst05"?
Yes, I'd love to have "Big Monster #5" living next door!
That would be a great idea... especially when a Hummer can get stuck in a parking lot :oP
... it's because there doesn't seem to be any decent anti-virus software for 64 bit Microsoft Windows?
I sure as hell wouldn't put a Microsoft Windows machine live without any... not and expect it to last very long.
... as if millions of geeks suddenly added "0.0.0.0 tigerdirect.com" to their hosts file and a web server suddently went silent.
My chiropractor found out about the BSA the hard way.
He had 2... count 'em 2, machines in his office, both running Win2k, Microsoft Office, and some accounting and scheduling software. He got a nice little letter from the BSA saying they wanted to do an audit.
He had no idea where his license info was, it's just him and his wife running a 2-exam-room office and he called me in a panic. I had told him about the Ernie Ball Case previously - he was all sorts of freaked out. Short of shelling out hundreds of dollars for new licenses, he was screwed. Granted, Ernie Ball is a larger company that might be able to suck it up, but it could mean financial ruin for a husband & wife operation.
He's now happily running Debian and OpenOffice on both machines. He had been planning on buying an updated version of his accounting/scheduling software regardless, and we found that it runs perfectly under wine.
He won't be hearing from the BSA again any time soon.
And what do those screenshots tell us anyways?
They killed Clippy!
Now if that little "Your computer might be at risk" thingie doesn't cry out of an appearance by Clippy, I don't know what does.
And licq and ickle and Trillian and...
Also, let's not forget how easy software installation on Windows and MacOS is.
Download setup.exe, install, run.
Sorry sir, but you're dead wrong on this one. If that's all you're doing, then you're going to have every virus/trojan known to man on your machine within a week, though that may not be the case for MacOS. Using Microsoft Windows, if you don't want to get every known virus/trojan, you have to:
Find and download $PROGRAM to install
Hope it's in exe or msi format.
Damn, it's in "compressed" format
Go find $DECOMPRESSOR and download
Scan $DECOMPRESSOR for viruses
Install $DECOMPRESSOR
Crap, I'm not admin
Log in as admin
Install $DECOMPRESSOR
Reboot
Log in
Scan $PROGRAM for viruses
Decompress $PROGRAM
Doubleclick exe/msi installer
Crap, I'm not admin
Log in as admin
Doubleclick exe/msi installer
Click "Next" to continue
Accept 27 page EULA
Click "Next" to continue
Confirm "install type", full/minimal/custom
Click "Next" to continue
Confirm/alter install path
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want a program group created? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want a desktop icon created? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Watch progress bar...
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want to read the README.txt now? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want to create a desktop shortcut? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want to run the internet updater? y/n
If Y, click "Next" to continue to repeat previous instructions, if N, then click "Next" to continue
$PROGRAM has been installed to $PATHBLAHBLAH, please register, would you like to do so now? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Installation complete, Click "Exit" to finish
You must reboot for changes to take effect, do you want to reboot now? Reboot/Cancel
Reboot
Log in
Click on desktop icon that was created even though 'No' was answered for that question
That may be a slight exaggeration... and I emphasize slight.
I'll take:
Click on the menu
Synaptic [insert yast, urmpi, whatever]
Enter root pass
Find $PROGRAM
Install $PROGRAM
Close Synaptic
Use $PROGRAM
Dependency hell went out years ago with the advent of modern package menagement. Short of compiling some funky thing you nab off of sourceforge, you're unlikely to have any problems in that regard.
... call a spammer in jail for 9 years?
A good start.
Now let's work on the politicians.
it's a PR coup on two fronts...
Perhaps 3 fronts.
Microsoft just made a direct connection between OSS and kiddie porn. Whether or not it's a 'good' connection is irrelavent. The connection's made, just like the senators tring to associate P2P with kiddie porn. Any connotation with kiddie porn is a bad connotation in this "WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!11!!oneone!!OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!" world.
But they can now refer to their mailing lists as Mandrivel ;o)
... something new for Schwartz, or did I miss a memo somewhere?
Nowhere does it say there are zero bugs, not even in the quote you pasted.
What it does say, however, is that Firefox doesn't have the software holes, namely Active-X garbage (which IE does), that allow the spyware in. He's just saying so in plain language for non-geeks, who couldn't care less what Active-X is anyway.
I can't say about the demographic you're referring to, but for the younger girls...
One would hope, however, that Mattel puts a bit more thought into it then they did the Barbie/HotWheels PCs a few years back.
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!11!!oneone!!OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!
The ever-lasting cry of 'moral-superiority'.
To paraphrase a modern day philosopher...
"I love to go down to the schoolyard and watch all the little children jump
up and down and run around yelling and screaming.
They don't know I'm only using blanks."
But does that count when there are only 2 paragraphs on each page? Either the author hasn't heard of a "scroll bar" in a browser, or the author's _seriously_ whoring out the ad-hits. Since the former is unlikely...
What an un-fun way to try and read an article.
That was the first question I asked a buddy of mine when he made note of this when it first came out on March 15. His wife's (then financee's) info was compromised, even though she'd graduated from there a couple of years earlier.
From the sound of it, they got used as a dump site.
Sounds like someone needs to be fired.
If Microsoft were the subject of this, how soon would some sort of slander or liable lawsuit follow?
One of those arguments is that we need commercial developers for Linux. Lo and behold when a commercial developer ante's up and makes product for Linux - they are beat up for their decision.
Perhaps you're reading into this wrong, or missing a few points.
1. That's fine but it isn't open sourced.
You know what? That sometimes mean a awful lot, to an awful lot of people.
2. Bahhh we have an opensource equivalent already.
That's a HUGE point though.
It's not like there was some incredible innovation done in this case. It's not like it's a new product, or something that's missing, something like Photoshop. It's a frikken cd burning program, something which there are literally dozens and dozens of - and superb ones at that - already.
3. It doesn't work on my weird (read low marketshare) version of Linux.
Since when is a Fedora/Redhat platform a "weird (read low marketshare) version of Linux"?
Why can't we be positive? Why can't we embrace Ahead for their efforts and simply say - Good Job on your (read) 1st version?
We can, but unfortunately, they aren't the first (they aren't even the first to do a cd burning utility) for Linux. We've seen just how 'less than satisfactory' other things have turned out before... for whatever reason.
Skepticism is only natural, and healthy, in a case like this.
Maybe THAT'S what's on all those damn aol cds...
Yes, and users also see flashing popups saying
"YOU ARE BROADCASTING YOUR IP ADDRESS!!!1111oneoneomgwtfbbq!!"
and they click on those too.
Of course. Because, you know... it's a GOOD idea to post a site with a 75 meg video file on it to slashdot. :P
That'll learn 'em
...This is a mainstream company willing to take pay-per-use apps on Linux seriously....
Yes, and that's nice and all, but they're scratching an itch that's already been scratched - for ages now - and with superb tools that have zero cost to the end user.
Sheesh... you can only use the "free" version of NeroLINUX if you've paid for a Microsoft Windows version. So, if you don't even use Microsoft Windows, you have to buy an app for it anyway. No thanks.
Perhaps it explains Microsft's recent about face with regards to patents...