Unfortunately, we can't use our existing pipeline infrastructure to transport ethanol:
"Ethanol absorbs moisture. That's a benefit when ethanol is present in your car's fuel system, but it causes problems during pipeline transport. Pipelines contain moisture and deposits that are absorbed by ethanol, thus changing its state during transport.
To this point, the volume of ethanol has not been large enough to justify change in the pipeline infrastructure that would eliminate those deposits. However, as MTBE is phased out and more ethanol is used, such improvements may occur." http://www.ncga.com/ethanol/main/economics.htm
"I'd like to know because it's so hard to compare with oil at that level. It's much easier for a consumer to simply look at the price on the pump. But that only tells us what the market is willing to bear (what the fuel is worth), not the true costs of production."
I *wish* that were true. The price of E85 (commonly called ethanol, even though almost all so-called "gasoline" has some percentage of ethanol in it too) has little to do with what the market will bear. If we could look at the prices at the pump and draw meaningful conclusions from them, then gasoline would win hands down, and the ethanol experiment would end without so much as a last gasp. In Chicago recently, gasoline was going for $3.60 per gallon, whereas E85 was at $3.06. Wow, gimme some of that ethanol, right?!?! Well, on a level playing field choosing E85 isn't so easy. While the price for a gallon of gasoline includes $0.4365 in taxes, the same gallon of E85 benefits from about $1.00 in subsidies (http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/07/1 4/opinion/guest/20-guest.txt)! Subsidies come from the government. Guess where the government gets the money it plays with? With that in mind, is it really so simple to look at the price on the pump and make your decision based on that? I'm not saying the whole ethanol project has no merit. I *am* saying that making ethanol from food is downright crazy. If making it from cellulose instead of sugar really drives up the efficiency that much, let's keep trying for a while. But let's do it with our eyes open to the true costs.
I just got done installing Java in 3 computer labs, and took the extra step of turning off that damn annoying autoupdate feature in the Java Control Panel on every machine. Crap, there goes my weekend...
Thanks, but that's not what I needed. I have a fairly new HVAC system -- all I needed was a new thermostat. It just really shouldn't be that hard to put a web server and a wireless card in a thermostat! Think of the functionality you would gain! On the first day of vacation, you realize you forgot to turn the heat down or the air off at home. There goes a lot of cash and wasted energy out the door. Not to mention it would be a lot easier to program the thing for maximum comfort and efficiency via a browser than the clunky interfaces they currently sport. Eventually, you could just download the desired profile from the web and import it into your thermostat. Oh well. Maybe I'll be an inventor in another life.
last month when my home's thermostat blew. I thought it was going to be a snap to find a WiFi enabled replacement, so I could program it remotely -- from the basement *or* from the campground. Never did find one.
This is not insightful, it is moronic. "50% of the cost"?!?! I work for a school district, and I get Windows licenses for about $54. I wonder what Dell pays?
Wonderful, now instead of my myspace antics just wrecking my next job interview, they can haunt my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-gr eat-great-great-great-great-great-great-
great-great-great-grandkids, too!
It's -2 degrees Farenheight outside right now. I'm a big fan of the CFLs, and I've installed them all over the house. Well, when it's this cold out, it takes about 2 minutes for the outdoor bulbs to turn on. Can't wait until I need to scare an intruder away with that lightning quick latency!
"kindly forgive Windows ME"?!?!?! I'm still waiting for some hungry lawyer to launch that class action lawsuit. What a mess/tragedy/travesty ME was. The only upside was it gave me the righteous outrage I needed to allow me to start using unauthorized copies of (more useful) Windows discs.
"However, always beware the law of unintended consequences. It seems likely to me that the costs for this will be passed on to us, one way or another."
I disagree. Costs will go WAY down. Instead of paying high prices for proprietary, hard-to-find cables, we'll be able to cruise into Wal-Martz and ask for a "cell phone cable." "That'll be five dollars, please."
"The mobile manufacturers aren't just going to redesign and retool for free."
One might think that they're already redesigning and retooling with *every* new phone, given that they all have different cables?
I bought Neil Stephenson's Baroque Cycle trilogy in Adobe ebook format from Amazon a couple of years ago (I bought each book as it came available, actually). Well, that all started 3 laptops and 2 Palm PDAs ago. I got the urge to read the trilogy again last month, and found that I could no longer activate my Adobe ebooks. Seems that I'd accessed them on too many devices. Adobe tech support basically told me to go fuck myself. So I bought the dead tree versions of the books. I then emailed Adobe copies of the Amazon invoices for the ebooks and the subsequent hardcover purchases, along with a note explaining that I'd bought my last ebook. No surprise that I haven't heard back, but I'm sure they'll get the point when more and more of their paying customers have a problem with their legally purchased books being stolen from them by Adobe. Anyway, I'm praying that things change, and the sooner the better.
"Wow, talk about being completely off-base. Botulinum toxin is never transmitted through bites or stings. You either get it from dirty wounds or from ingesting it in contaminated food. And it doesn't sting. The way it kills is that it paralyzes you, including the muscles you use for breathing."
Wow, talk about putting works in someone's mouth. At what point did I say botulinum toxin is transmitted through bites or stings? I was referring to the snail toxin (you know, the subject of TFA?)when I used the word "stung," which you'd have understood if you were reading for understanding instead of poring through text in search of an attack vector.
Wouldn't be the first time we've used a toxin in non-toxic ways. Botox (botulism toxin), anyone? I'm sure it hurts like hell if you're *stung* with the toxin, but has no such effect when ingested. (or something).
We're supposed to pay $0.25 per cup for coffee at work. I only pay for maybe 1 cup in 20. Of course, I guess I can be hero, because I'm stealing from The Man and not my coworkers, right?
"And noone can argue with them, because--bottom line--Israel has nukes.
This is the lesson that developing nations around the world have learned.
Noone fucks with you once you have nukes."
Ummm... I can't believe I have to point this out, but as you've been modded "5, Insightful." I guess I have to. As you yourself pointed out, Israel has nukes. Then you go on to say "Noone(sic) fucks with you once you have nukes." In case you haven't noticed, Israel gets fucked with *ALL THE TIME* and when they have the gaul to fight back, the world condemns them for "disproportionate response." Unfuckingbelieavable.
"Some of the other Arab states should be pointing that fact out to their Iranian brethren."
Except that Iran is not an Arab state. No more than is Indonesia. "Arab" simply describes people who speak Arabic. Muslim!=Arab. Oh, and the Arab states *certainly* don't consider Iranians their "brethren." Arabs and Persians hate each other!
"To my mind, the only possible outcome is for the US, and by extension, its allies, is to move toward acccepting the eventuality that Iran will in due time have nuclear weapons and nothing anyone says or does is going to change that. Once the US learns live with that, maybe the Iranians will get over their hatred of the US and it's involvement in their own country, and its continuing involvement in the countries that surround it."
You and your kind are dangerous imbeciles. I pray to God (shudder, a crazy Christian is posting on Slashdot!) that you guys never gain power again. Next thing you know, we and our allies will have to "move toward accepting" terrorist attacks on us every couple of years, doing nothing about it but shrugging our shoulders and saying "those darn Arabs!" and waiting for the next one -- you know, like we did the last time you guys were in power? No thanks!
"but 6 years seems awfully harsh for a crime where no one was physically harmed."
Anyone who agrees with this should stop and consider the fact that this scumbag was undoubtably also a spammer. And as a spammer, he's probably responsible for a huge number of zombie machines and all the other stuff that's crapping up the Internet. Death sentence, anyone?
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Unfortunately, we can't use our existing pipeline infrastructure to transport ethanol: "Ethanol absorbs moisture. That's a benefit when ethanol is present in your car's fuel system, but it causes problems during pipeline transport. Pipelines contain moisture and deposits that are absorbed by ethanol, thus changing its state during transport. To this point, the volume of ethanol has not been large enough to justify change in the pipeline infrastructure that would eliminate those deposits. However, as MTBE is phased out and more ethanol is used, such improvements may occur." http://www.ncga.com/ethanol/main/economics.htm
"I'd like to know because it's so hard to compare with oil at that level. It's much easier for a consumer to simply look at the price on the pump. But that only tells us what the market is willing to bear (what the fuel is worth), not the true costs of production."
1 4/opinion/guest/20-guest.txt)! Subsidies come from the government. Guess where the government gets the money it plays with? With that in mind, is it really so simple to look at the price on the pump and make your decision based on that? I'm not saying the whole ethanol project has no merit. I *am* saying that making ethanol from food is downright crazy. If making it from cellulose instead of sugar really drives up the efficiency that much, let's keep trying for a while. But let's do it with our eyes open to the true costs.
I *wish* that were true. The price of E85 (commonly called ethanol, even though almost all so-called "gasoline" has some percentage of ethanol in it too) has little to do with what the market will bear. If we could look at the prices at the pump and draw meaningful conclusions from them, then gasoline would win hands down, and the ethanol experiment would end without so much as a last gasp. In Chicago recently, gasoline was going for $3.60 per gallon, whereas E85 was at $3.06. Wow, gimme some of that ethanol, right?!?! Well, on a level playing field choosing E85 isn't so easy. While the price for a gallon of gasoline includes $0.4365 in taxes, the same gallon of E85 benefits from about $1.00 in subsidies (http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/07/
I just got done installing Java in 3 computer labs, and took the extra step of turning off that damn annoying autoupdate feature in the Java Control Panel on every machine. Crap, there goes my weekend...
"Nookie."
Thanks, but that's not what I needed. I have a fairly new HVAC system -- all I needed was a new thermostat. It just really shouldn't be that hard to put a web server and a wireless card in a thermostat! Think of the functionality you would gain! On the first day of vacation, you realize you forgot to turn the heat down or the air off at home. There goes a lot of cash and wasted energy out the door. Not to mention it would be a lot easier to program the thing for maximum comfort and efficiency via a browser than the clunky interfaces they currently sport. Eventually, you could just download the desired profile from the web and import it into your thermostat. Oh well. Maybe I'll be an inventor in another life.
last month when my home's thermostat blew. I thought it was going to be a snap to find a WiFi enabled replacement, so I could program it remotely -- from the basement *or* from the campground. Never did find one.
I'm feeling a little under the weather. Why don't you all just go on without me, and I'll catch the next shuttle, mkay?
I floss while driving. The cops hate it, but my dentist loves me!
This is not insightful, it is moronic. "50% of the cost"?!?! I work for a school district, and I get Windows licenses for about $54. I wonder what Dell pays?
On the other hand, Dell appears to *want* our feedback:r p/linux?s=corp
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/co
Wonderful, now instead of my myspace antics just wrecking my next job interview, they can haunt my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-gr eat-great-great-great-great-great-great-
great-great-great-grandkids, too!
It's -2 degrees Farenheight outside right now. I'm a big fan of the CFLs, and I've installed them all over the house. Well, when it's this cold out, it takes about 2 minutes for the outdoor bulbs to turn on. Can't wait until I need to scare an intruder away with that lightning quick latency!
"kindly forgive Windows ME"?!?!?! I'm still waiting for some hungry lawyer to launch that class action lawsuit. What a mess/tragedy/travesty ME was. The only upside was it gave me the righteous outrage I needed to allow me to start using unauthorized copies of (more useful) Windows discs.
"but it wasn't really the kind of music you'd listen to over a meal)."
:)
Mom's into Rob Zombie, is she?
"However, always beware the law of unintended consequences. It seems likely to me that the costs for this will be passed on to us, one way or another."
I disagree. Costs will go WAY down. Instead of paying high prices for proprietary, hard-to-find cables, we'll be able to cruise into Wal-Martz and ask for a "cell phone cable." "That'll be five dollars, please."
"The mobile manufacturers aren't just going to redesign and retool for free."
One might think that they're already redesigning and retooling with *every* new phone, given that they all have different cables?
I bought Neil Stephenson's Baroque Cycle trilogy in Adobe ebook format from Amazon a couple of years ago (I bought each book as it came available, actually). Well, that all started 3 laptops and 2 Palm PDAs ago. I got the urge to read the trilogy again last month, and found that I could no longer activate my Adobe ebooks. Seems that I'd accessed them on too many devices. Adobe tech support basically told me to go fuck myself. So I bought the dead tree versions of the books. I then emailed Adobe copies of the Amazon invoices for the ebooks and the subsequent hardcover purchases, along with a note explaining that I'd bought my last ebook. No surprise that I haven't heard back, but I'm sure they'll get the point when more and more of their paying customers have a problem with their legally purchased books being stolen from them by Adobe. Anyway, I'm praying that things change, and the sooner the better.
"A certain browser named after a certain bushy animal comes to mind"
I don't think gopher was technically a browser...
"Wow, talk about being completely off-base. Botulinum toxin is never transmitted through bites or stings. You either get it from dirty wounds or from ingesting it in contaminated food. And it doesn't sting. The way it kills is that it paralyzes you, including the muscles you use for breathing."
Wow, talk about putting works in someone's mouth. At what point did I say botulinum toxin is transmitted through bites or stings? I was referring to the snail toxin (you know, the subject of TFA?)when I used the word "stung," which you'd have understood if you were reading for understanding instead of poring through text in search of an attack vector.
Wouldn't be the first time we've used a toxin in non-toxic ways. Botox (botulism toxin), anyone? I'm sure it hurts like hell if you're *stung* with the toxin, but has no such effect when ingested. (or something).
Did anyone else immediately think "Infinite Improbability Drive" when they read the blurb? It also had no moving parts -- just a bistro!
We're supposed to pay $0.25 per cup for coffee at work. I only pay for maybe 1 cup in 20. Of course, I guess I can be hero, because I'm stealing from The Man and not my coworkers, right?
"And noone can argue with them, because--bottom line--Israel has nukes. This is the lesson that developing nations around the world have learned. Noone fucks with you once you have nukes."
Ummm... I can't believe I have to point this out, but as you've been modded "5, Insightful." I guess I have to. As you yourself pointed out, Israel has nukes. Then you go on to say "Noone(sic) fucks with you once you have nukes." In case you haven't noticed, Israel gets fucked with *ALL THE TIME* and when they have the gaul to fight back, the world condemns them for "disproportionate response." Unfuckingbelieavable.
"Some of the other Arab states should be pointing that fact out to their Iranian brethren."
Except that Iran is not an Arab state. No more than is Indonesia. "Arab" simply describes people who speak Arabic. Muslim!=Arab. Oh, and the Arab states *certainly* don't consider Iranians their "brethren." Arabs and Persians hate each other!
"To my mind, the only possible outcome is for the US, and by extension, its allies, is to move toward acccepting the eventuality that Iran will in due time have nuclear weapons and nothing anyone says or does is going to change that. Once the US learns live with that, maybe the Iranians will get over their hatred of the US and it's involvement in their own country, and its continuing involvement in the countries that surround it."
You and your kind are dangerous imbeciles. I pray to God (shudder, a crazy Christian is posting on Slashdot!) that you guys never gain power again. Next thing you know, we and our allies will have to "move toward accepting" terrorist attacks on us every couple of years, doing nothing about it but shrugging our shoulders and saying "those darn Arabs!" and waiting for the next one -- you know, like we did the last time you guys were in power? No thanks!
"but 6 years seems awfully harsh for a crime where no one was physically harmed."
Anyone who agrees with this should stop and consider the fact that this scumbag was undoubtably also a spammer. And as a spammer, he's probably responsible for a huge number of zombie machines and all the other stuff that's crapping up the Internet. Death sentence, anyone?