No, I do realize that the Electric Universe needs more work to be a fully fleshed out scientific theory that explains everything we know about the universe. My problem is how often I keep hearing NASA say their new discovery is unexpected. In particular, the section on comets in the Electric Universe pages makes many more predictions that turned out to be true when the Deep Impact probe smashed into that comet. The flash was much brighter than NASA expected, and there was two of them, there was no large increase of water after the impact, and many others. The Electric Universe theory made predictions for that event, while NASA just had a ton of surprises and unexpected results from a pitch black ball of ice.
I do realize that the currently accepted theories must have made many predictions in the past and that would be why they are the currently accepted theories. But every time I see something about space in the news it has some scientist saying how unexpected this is or that current theories can't explain it.
The whole galaxy rotation curve problem seems pretty messed up. They use a model of a galaxy as if the mass was in the center like the star in a solar system, and wonder why it then doesn't match. From Wikipedia: "The galaxy rotation problem is the discrepancy between observed galaxy rotation curves and the Newtonian-Keplerian prediction, assuming a centrally-dominated mass associated with the observed luminous material. When masses of galaxies are calculated solely from the luminosities and mass-to-light ratios in the disk, and if core portions of spiral galaxies are assumed to approximate to those of stars, the masses derived from the kinematics of the observed rotation and the law of gravity do not match." But when adding in Dark Matter, they have the mass spread all over the place to make it work. Shouldn't they check out how things work when you look at the mass distribution of the galaxy and not add Dark Matter or treat it like all the mass is at a single point. We also need to use relativity to make GPS work properly. If you add time dilation and other relativistic effects do things look better. Obviously the closer to the center of the galaxy you get the deeper the gravity well becomes, which changes the local time for those stars. And the velocity of the stars moving around the galaxy will give similar effects. I wish I understood more of the topic because it is pretty interesting. It just looks like they are missing something basic and are chasing ghosts as they keep to their old theories.
If the email client accepts a public key automatically and adds it to the keyring, wouldn't that allow for MITM attacks and spoofing. All the NSA has to do is send a fake email to you with a new public key that is supposedly from someone you communicate with. Then you email client adds that fake key to the keyring and will encrypt any mail sent to that address with this NSA build fake key. They can read all the mail you send and if desired forward it on with the real public key to the proper user.
Good point all but for the lead pipe example. A little knowledge of history and you would know that lead was used for pipes back since the Roman days if not before. In fact, people used to grate a block of lead onto their food much like we might do with parmesan cheese nowadays. And the lead poisoning wasn't such a big deal. Well eating it would probably be bad, but for the pipes it wasn't so bad. The hard water deposits coat the inside of the lead pipes and then there is no more lead in the water.
That's not what I said. Try learning to read. I said we need a theory that actually produces predictions that fit. Not one that has to be shimmed and tweaked to fit whatever observations we see. If you can tweak a theory to fit any observation at all, then it doesn't tell you anything about anything. Might as well stick with "God did it" at that point.
If tomorrow we discover a world where teacups reassemble themselves from broken pieces, it doesn't follow the scientific principles to just add Dark Time into the standard models and now everything is ok again. Sometimes you need to look harder for a better understanding of what is going on. As long as they keep fooling themselves that what they have come up with is the truth, they will keep down the wrong path. I don't see it changing until we have a new Einstein that comes up with the next paradigm shift though. Perhaps I am wrong there as the quantum field has come quite a ways without one central figure that changed everything we thought we knew. Maybe that field can fix our gravity and mass problems also.
Yeah I tried to go through some of that stuff years back, and it was distinctly unconvincing, sketchily-laid out, and in a far weaker state than the author(s) would wish you to believe. Ultimately, if they feel they have a truly viable theory they have to apply it, in as much detail as the current LCDM model has been applied.
It has to be couched in a mathematical language, and that's because it has to have a surmise and make a testable prediction. It has to be directly testable.
The last that I knew, the Electric Universe stuff doesn't do any of this. (I would emphasise again that to gain acceptance it is not enough to posit a model -- and it's not even enough to present some back-of-the-envelope calculations.
These are very good points and I do believe that the electric universe theory needs some work putting all the pieces actually in place as a real and fully formed theory. My problem with the current theory is it seems like they are making things up. You say the theory needs to make predictions. But case after case of news reports about discoveries in space keep saying how this or that thing shouldn't exist. Just today I see on the Slashdot home page an article about an Earth-like world that orbits so close to the star that it shouldn't be there. The current theory does not account for this world. It also does not predict blacker than coal comets that don't seem to have water in them when you smash them apart. It also has trouble explaining the atmosphere's of gas giants that are warmer than the solar energy can create and rotate faster than the world rotates. So they add more crud onto the current theory to try to fit the unexplainable into it. That is not a prediction, that is taking observations and making up a story. That is not science. So, when everything I read is about astrophysicists making crap up to fit new things into broken theories why would I think Dark Matter and Energy are anything different. They made it up to try to patch a broken theory. It just isn't working and we need to find a better theory.
But the real product, the game, is fine. It's the extra add-on, the DRM, that is the problem. So I just avoid the problem part while enjoying the game part! See piracy is the answer.
If you watch a video of a ball rolling on a desk, you can't tell just by the video whether time has been reversed. The physics governing that motion don't care about time. If you watch a video of an egg being shattered, you'll know when the video is reversed. You know all the contents of the egg can't spontaneously get back together as time moves forward. That would be going to a much more well-ordered state.
Perhaps in a very short clip you would not be able to tell the direction of time when a ball is rolling on a desk. But with sensitive enough detection or a long enough desk, you would see the speed of the ball slow down due to friction effects like rolling resistance and air resistance. This slowing effect would tell you which way time went. If the desk was not perfectly level then that would throw things off but you might be able to tell the difference between deceleration due to friction and acceleration due to gravity. The rate of change may not be the same as the equation for acceleration due to gravity is squared and the formula for friction effects is a direct relationship.
I read about where this ends up going in Snow Crash. The land was carved up into privately owned and gated enclaves that had their own security. Looks like that may be where we are headed? It also reminds me of some of the stuff predicted in "The Sovereign Individual".
Most places will add the tip to the bill when there is a group of at least 6 or 8 people. If that was done, then his additional 5% puts the tip at around 20%.
If the place did not have the tip added, then that was a jerky thing to do on his part.
You would not want to throw the match into a gas tank. That is enclosed and will have sufficient vaporized fuel to possibly be a problem. The lack of fresh oxygen might save you, but I wouldn't bet on it. I know a mechanic that says they used to use a bucket of gasoline to throw their cigarettes into. The open top of the bucket allows the vapor to stay at a low enough concentration that it does not ignite.
What the hell is a "network society", and where do I go to opt out (and opt out on my children's behalf)?
The "network society" is also known as "the borg". And don't worry about opting out. There is no opting out, you will be assimilated. And once you are assimilated, you will never want to be disconnected from the collective ever again.
So if a gun wasn't used this time, will they try to ban cars then?
This example just shows me that gun violence will never go away. Even if they removed every gun from every citizen and there was no possible way to get one, the police will still have theirs and will be quite willing to use them any time they feel like it. This woman was obviously deranged in some way, but why did they shoot her. She didn't have a gun, they chase and ram into things all the time to capture the criminal. But here they just shot her to end it quickly. Must keep control of the populous so the elite that run the place don't have to hear your complaints!
I think even worst case in your example is still good for Valve. They see what Microsoft is hoping to do with the software store, going after the iTunes model. If all software for Windows 9, 10, or 42 comes from a Microsoft App store, then Steam is dead and games will be made for the MS App store. If Valve can get Linux as a viable alternative for PC gaming then they can continue to sell games with Steam. I don't think they want to be in the hardware business. That's why letting the hardware be open and hackable doesn't matter to them. For their goals it would be awesome if someone else made the hardware. But they need to get it started. If they can get and Android like ecosystem of OS and Games going with Steam Boxen, Steam OS, and home PC's then they can be the App store for it.
I'm sure making more money selling parts isn't a horrible thought. The actual reason they would make a part weaker if it lasted way longer than the car is to make the part cheaper. If the parts are cheaper then the car will cost less and more people can buy it. Plus, there is more room for profit when you can make things cheaper. If you go too far at making things cheap you will lose out on your reputation for quality.
If you think it would be fun to go to Europa even if it means you will die there, that's totally something you should try to do. As for science and exploration, there is really nothing that a human being is going to be able to see or do, beyond what can be done by a robot.
I can think of one thing a human can do that a robot will not be able to do. That is get infected with the European bacteria and come down with the first interplanetary cold or flu. That would be some exciting TV there!
Well we could send all the telephone sanitisers, hairdressers, and advertising account executives. I would throw in the politicians and lawyers also, but that's just me.
That's because when they take off they jump backwards. I use a grabbing motion coming up from behind the fly. My hand being 2 or 3 inches above the surface. The fly jump up to take off and quite often ends up in my fist. Trying to squish them can be tricky so a lot of time I just throw them at a hard surface to stun them and then finish them off afterwards.
I suspect that they themselves don't have the ability to be responsible with the tech. They probably just sit around constantly on their phones and tablets and don't even pay attention to the kids. Tech addiction can be pretty bad. I don't really know why I don't have it so bad, but I do like to play games and watch some TV. I don't use Facebook or Twitter though. Perhaps the social media craze makes things more addicting. It can't be the only thing though as my in-laws are pretty addicted to their phones. They go through a two day drive to come out and visit their grand-daughter, but then sit there playing little games on their phone while ignoring their grand-daughter. It seems to me that they should put them down and spend a little more quality time with her while they are out visiting. It's not 100%, they do plenty of things when out visiting, but when at home sitting in the living room the phones will come out. Even if the grand-daughter is being cute or funny, you have to keep telling them to pay attention to her over and over. So, if these parents have the addiction themselves they would not be capable of teaching discipline and self control as they lack those attributes. Banning the tech is for their own addiction.
And we can believe that the NSA didn't backdoor the A7 chip. You are aware of all the encryption hardware that has come out as being backdoor'd by the NSA, right?
Plus, some small cavities can go away. The dentist will recommend you get them filled right away of course. My wife didn't get hers filled and on her next checkup, the ones they were saying needed to be filled were no longer there.
Not sure how you think I am trolling. If you listened to the news on the trial you would have the same facts on it that I did. Unless there are some Faux news companies that distort the facts and you listen to them.
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Yep, but the circuit boards will die way before the lifespan of the screen. This is same for LCD and Plasma.
No, I do realize that the Electric Universe needs more work to be a fully fleshed out scientific theory that explains everything we know about the universe. My problem is how often I keep hearing NASA say their new discovery is unexpected. In particular, the section on comets in the Electric Universe pages makes many more predictions that turned out to be true when the Deep Impact probe smashed into that comet. The flash was much brighter than NASA expected, and there was two of them, there was no large increase of water after the impact, and many others. The Electric Universe theory made predictions for that event, while NASA just had a ton of surprises and unexpected results from a pitch black ball of ice.
I do realize that the currently accepted theories must have made many predictions in the past and that would be why they are the currently accepted theories. But every time I see something about space in the news it has some scientist saying how unexpected this is or that current theories can't explain it.
The whole galaxy rotation curve problem seems pretty messed up. They use a model of a galaxy as if the mass was in the center like the star in a solar system, and wonder why it then doesn't match. From Wikipedia: "The galaxy rotation problem is the discrepancy between observed galaxy rotation curves and the Newtonian-Keplerian prediction, assuming a centrally-dominated mass associated with the observed luminous material. When masses of galaxies are calculated solely from the luminosities and mass-to-light ratios in the disk, and if core portions of spiral galaxies are assumed to approximate to those of stars, the masses derived from the kinematics of the observed rotation and the law of gravity do not match." But when adding in Dark Matter, they have the mass spread all over the place to make it work. Shouldn't they check out how things work when you look at the mass distribution of the galaxy and not add Dark Matter or treat it like all the mass is at a single point. We also need to use relativity to make GPS work properly. If you add time dilation and other relativistic effects do things look better. Obviously the closer to the center of the galaxy you get the deeper the gravity well becomes, which changes the local time for those stars. And the velocity of the stars moving around the galaxy will give similar effects. I wish I understood more of the topic because it is pretty interesting. It just looks like they are missing something basic and are chasing ghosts as they keep to their old theories.
If the email client accepts a public key automatically and adds it to the keyring, wouldn't that allow for MITM attacks and spoofing. All the NSA has to do is send a fake email to you with a new public key that is supposedly from someone you communicate with. Then you email client adds that fake key to the keyring and will encrypt any mail sent to that address with this NSA build fake key. They can read all the mail you send and if desired forward it on with the real public key to the proper user.
Good point all but for the lead pipe example. A little knowledge of history and you would know that lead was used for pipes back since the Roman days if not before. In fact, people used to grate a block of lead onto their food much like we might do with parmesan cheese nowadays. And the lead poisoning wasn't such a big deal. Well eating it would probably be bad, but for the pipes it wasn't so bad. The hard water deposits coat the inside of the lead pipes and then there is no more lead in the water.
That's not what I said. Try learning to read. I said we need a theory that actually produces predictions that fit. Not one that has to be shimmed and tweaked to fit whatever observations we see. If you can tweak a theory to fit any observation at all, then it doesn't tell you anything about anything. Might as well stick with "God did it" at that point.
If tomorrow we discover a world where teacups reassemble themselves from broken pieces, it doesn't follow the scientific principles to just add Dark Time into the standard models and now everything is ok again. Sometimes you need to look harder for a better understanding of what is going on. As long as they keep fooling themselves that what they have come up with is the truth, they will keep down the wrong path. I don't see it changing until we have a new Einstein that comes up with the next paradigm shift though. Perhaps I am wrong there as the quantum field has come quite a ways without one central figure that changed everything we thought we knew. Maybe that field can fix our gravity and mass problems also.
Yeah I tried to go through some of that stuff years back, and it was distinctly unconvincing, sketchily-laid out, and in a far weaker state than the author(s) would wish you to believe. Ultimately, if they feel they have a truly viable theory they have to apply it, in as much detail as the current LCDM model has been applied.
It has to be couched in a mathematical language, and that's because it has to have a surmise and make a testable prediction. It has to be directly testable.
The last that I knew, the Electric Universe stuff doesn't do any of this. (I would emphasise again that to gain acceptance it is not enough to posit a model -- and it's not even enough to present some back-of-the-envelope calculations.
These are very good points and I do believe that the electric universe theory needs some work putting all the pieces actually in place as a real and fully formed theory. My problem with the current theory is it seems like they are making things up. You say the theory needs to make predictions. But case after case of news reports about discoveries in space keep saying how this or that thing shouldn't exist. Just today I see on the Slashdot home page an article about an Earth-like world that orbits so close to the star that it shouldn't be there. The current theory does not account for this world. It also does not predict blacker than coal comets that don't seem to have water in them when you smash them apart. It also has trouble explaining the atmosphere's of gas giants that are warmer than the solar energy can create and rotate faster than the world rotates. So they add more crud onto the current theory to try to fit the unexplainable into it. That is not a prediction, that is taking observations and making up a story. That is not science. So, when everything I read is about astrophysicists making crap up to fit new things into broken theories why would I think Dark Matter and Energy are anything different. They made it up to try to patch a broken theory. It just isn't working and we need to find a better theory.
But the real product, the game, is fine. It's the extra add-on, the DRM, that is the problem. So I just avoid the problem part while enjoying the game part! See piracy is the answer.
If you watch a video of a ball rolling on a desk, you can't tell just by the video whether time has been reversed. The physics governing that motion don't care about time. If you watch a video of an egg being shattered, you'll know when the video is reversed. You know all the contents of the egg can't spontaneously get back together as time moves forward. That would be going to a much more well-ordered state.
Perhaps in a very short clip you would not be able to tell the direction of time when a ball is rolling on a desk. But with sensitive enough detection or a long enough desk, you would see the speed of the ball slow down due to friction effects like rolling resistance and air resistance. This slowing effect would tell you which way time went. If the desk was not perfectly level then that would throw things off but you might be able to tell the difference between deceleration due to friction and acceleration due to gravity. The rate of change may not be the same as the equation for acceleration due to gravity is squared and the formula for friction effects is a direct relationship.
Yeah! It's about time we start watching the police back! We need more surveillance on what the governmental organizations are doing.
Oh wait! That's not what they mean, is it?!
I read about where this ends up going in Snow Crash. The land was carved up into privately owned and gated enclaves that had their own security. Looks like that may be where we are headed? It also reminds me of some of the stuff predicted in "The Sovereign Individual".
Is that why you can't rent a car until you turn 25? Sounds plausible.
Most places will add the tip to the bill when there is a group of at least 6 or 8 people. If that was done, then his additional 5% puts the tip at around 20%. If the place did not have the tip added, then that was a jerky thing to do on his part.
You would not want to throw the match into a gas tank. That is enclosed and will have sufficient vaporized fuel to possibly be a problem. The lack of fresh oxygen might save you, but I wouldn't bet on it. I know a mechanic that says they used to use a bucket of gasoline to throw their cigarettes into. The open top of the bucket allows the vapor to stay at a low enough concentration that it does not ignite.
What the hell is a "network society", and where do I go to opt out (and opt out on my children's behalf)?
The "network society" is also known as "the borg". And don't worry about opting out. There is no opting out, you will be assimilated. And once you are assimilated, you will never want to be disconnected from the collective ever again.
So if a gun wasn't used this time, will they try to ban cars then?
This example just shows me that gun violence will never go away. Even if they removed every gun from every citizen and there was no possible way to get one, the police will still have theirs and will be quite willing to use them any time they feel like it. This woman was obviously deranged in some way, but why did they shoot her. She didn't have a gun, they chase and ram into things all the time to capture the criminal. But here they just shot her to end it quickly. Must keep control of the populous so the elite that run the place don't have to hear your complaints!
I think even worst case in your example is still good for Valve. They see what Microsoft is hoping to do with the software store, going after the iTunes model. If all software for Windows 9, 10, or 42 comes from a Microsoft App store, then Steam is dead and games will be made for the MS App store. If Valve can get Linux as a viable alternative for PC gaming then they can continue to sell games with Steam. I don't think they want to be in the hardware business. That's why letting the hardware be open and hackable doesn't matter to them. For their goals it would be awesome if someone else made the hardware. But they need to get it started. If they can get and Android like ecosystem of OS and Games going with Steam Boxen, Steam OS, and home PC's then they can be the App store for it.
I'm sure making more money selling parts isn't a horrible thought. The actual reason they would make a part weaker if it lasted way longer than the car is to make the part cheaper. If the parts are cheaper then the car will cost less and more people can buy it. Plus, there is more room for profit when you can make things cheaper. If you go too far at making things cheap you will lose out on your reputation for quality.
If Elon Musk gets busted for trying to make a big cocaine deal, then we know they have run out of new ideas at destroying a competitor.
If you think it would be fun to go to Europa even if it means you will die there, that's totally something you should try to do. As for science and exploration, there is really nothing that a human being is going to be able to see or do, beyond what can be done by a robot.
I can think of one thing a human can do that a robot will not be able to do. That is get infected with the European bacteria and come down with the first interplanetary cold or flu. That would be some exciting TV there!
Well we could send all the telephone sanitisers, hairdressers, and advertising account executives. I would throw in the politicians and lawyers also, but that's just me.
That's because when they take off they jump backwards. I use a grabbing motion coming up from behind the fly. My hand being 2 or 3 inches above the surface. The fly jump up to take off and quite often ends up in my fist. Trying to squish them can be tricky so a lot of time I just throw them at a hard surface to stun them and then finish them off afterwards.
I suspect that they themselves don't have the ability to be responsible with the tech. They probably just sit around constantly on their phones and tablets and don't even pay attention to the kids. Tech addiction can be pretty bad. I don't really know why I don't have it so bad, but I do like to play games and watch some TV. I don't use Facebook or Twitter though. Perhaps the social media craze makes things more addicting. It can't be the only thing though as my in-laws are pretty addicted to their phones. They go through a two day drive to come out and visit their grand-daughter, but then sit there playing little games on their phone while ignoring their grand-daughter. It seems to me that they should put them down and spend a little more quality time with her while they are out visiting. It's not 100%, they do plenty of things when out visiting, but when at home sitting in the living room the phones will come out. Even if the grand-daughter is being cute or funny, you have to keep telling them to pay attention to her over and over. So, if these parents have the addiction themselves they would not be capable of teaching discipline and self control as they lack those attributes. Banning the tech is for their own addiction.
And we can believe that the NSA didn't backdoor the A7 chip. You are aware of all the encryption hardware that has come out as being backdoor'd by the NSA, right?
Plus, some small cavities can go away. The dentist will recommend you get them filled right away of course. My wife didn't get hers filled and on her next checkup, the ones they were saying needed to be filled were no longer there.
Not sure how you think I am trolling. If you listened to the news on the trial you would have the same facts on it that I did. Unless there are some Faux news companies that distort the facts and you listen to them.