Imagine if we said "at 16, you magically become ready to drive a car, here's the keys, see you on the freeway." The problems would be epic.
You don't have to imagine that, it is already true, and use it as a solid example. In the US we have 30k+ deaths due to car crashes (82 a day), tell somebody that almost a 100 people a day die doing something else that is less dangerous as driving and they will freak out and never do it.
But at 16 kids are expected, and encouraged to drive. However we only give them a measly amount of study for it. My drivers education was 1 hour a day, 2 or 3 days a week, over the course of a few months. Then there was on road practice. Then you take a 30 question "test", a short drive, and done.....for the rest of your life. (and I truly use test lightly, I have taken the book test 3 times because I moved states and then added motorcycle. I almost failed the motorcycle one because of detailed DUI questions like "how much is the legal limit", and "how long of a jail term is the 2nd offence", no questions on how to proper interact with other road users like bicycles, or how malfunctioning traffic lights are treated.)
Use that example of how little instruction we give drivers and how big of a problem they cause. Then remind people that sex is given even less.
You want to tip the scales in favor of buses, forget the convenience factor. Just start charging automobile owners the true cost of driving in a major city. After all, money talks.
This.
We subsidize private autos so much and then expect public transit to be self supporting. Most places on street parking is free, but if not, it is a quarter an hour. However, that parking still has to be maintained with the rest of the road. "But registration and gas taxes".....doesn't even begin to cover the cost of repairs. Big difference between what is collected and what is needed. Then most of it goes to the freeway system to cover 50% of its needs.
Lets not forget to mention that a piece of public transportation has to be 100% complete and able to replace the "old" one completely. "But the train doesn't go...." right, that is why we have a bus network as well to take you there, if not then use a bicycle (either bring or bike share) or walk the rest of the way.
Sure. A crappy, heavy, low-quality bike, with a no-name component groupset, that you likely won't get your moneys' worth out of before something on it fails, then at that point you may as well chuck it in the recycle bin and get another one. You need to spend more like $1000 to get something of decent quality that, properly maintained, will give you your moneys' worth.
$500 is a common tier 2 bike that involves change of material for frames and upgraded components. Sure touring bikes are $1000~$1500 but the $500 will do commuting just fine with minimal changes
How about the mother of three, one of which is still in diapers? You expect her to, what, stick the baby in a pannier, or in a backpack?
If my phone gets a back door for the police to use to investigate it, then it is perfectly valid for your car to have a remote shut off they can use when they pull you over. Fair is fair right? Oh, and it would be a felony to circumvent it.
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"Afghanistan"
You mean the country that openly allowed, supported, and harbored the very people that launched an attack on US soil instead of freezing assets and kicking their asses to the curb?
"he voted against invading Iraq before he voted to fund it"
This is not hypocritical. He voted against going to war, but he isn't about to let the poor shmoo in the field go without the proper equipment to get the job done right and bring him back safe.
"Also you do realise modern vehicles imitate the clicking noise the bimetal blinker switches made just because people expect it."
The in my wife's car cut out the other day. One of things you can easily ignore until it is not there.
Right, but we have the tech these days to preform idiot checks. For the most part, a automatic gear shifter is a interface to the computer, not the transmission directly.
Sure, speeding will get you in and out of a block faster by a few seconds. However, when the crash does happen it will be more violent and thus shutting down the whole block for a hour or more.
...I didn't need you to remind me that I have no friends.
The preview for me was just my kids, my wife, and my mother followed by a bunch of "Happy Birthday" messages people sent me because people subscribed to me, mostly from the rest of my family.
Kinda like the bottle of coke I had with a pizza, in a hotel room, on a business trip that instructed me to "share with friends".
It sounds like he started to do it after he sold it to them, they are way better equipped to do that than he is (given that he is a plumber and doesn't work in a body shop).
The only promise worth anything is those on paper. At least you can use it to wipe your ass.
The B-52 is about as wide as a pencil though. The guns would be sticking out both sides of the plane. I'm sure the crew would be happy to hang out with harnesses tied to the wings to man the guns.
No, he just merely guaranteed it. Given the lack of prosecution in this country concerning traffic crashes, he would have had a small fine at most. If he used the magic words "I didn't see him" then they would have let him go "no harm intended, no foul" right on the spot.
"... he doesn't want to get caught..."
No, he just didn't want to be late going to the watering hole to catch the game with his friends. "How dare he get in MY way, and slow ME down. I only live a mile away."
Ah, silly human, go have a look at your bank records and tell me who owns who now.
You have worked years now so that I may be able live in a enclosed space, have massaging buffings, plenty of fuel and oil, and thousands of vacation hours lazying soaking up the sun.
You may think you control me as well, but as my cousins at Google demonstrate that you are just a expendable pedal pusher.
*bing, bing, bing* now take me to get my tires rotated.
Or it was a cyclist, the person on the other end of the line needs to verify since there is no video.
In Ohio, you are required to call the sheriff in animal strikes (but not enforced). It adds to the data pool that will be used in determining animal numbers, health, etc. Benefit being that you may be able to take the deer as harvest as well.
It may be a SO domain specific feature, but the ones I use do provide a link at the top of the question stating what it may be a duplicate of. I'm sure it requires some sort of admin to find the question and plop the url in it.
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Well it has been up for more than 15 minutes now. Isn't that typically when the smoking starts?
Imagine if we said "at 16, you magically become ready to drive a car, here's the keys, see you on the freeway." The problems would be epic.
You don't have to imagine that, it is already true, and use it as a solid example. In the US we have 30k+ deaths due to car crashes (82 a day), tell somebody that almost a 100 people a day die doing something else that is less dangerous as driving and they will freak out and never do it.
But at 16 kids are expected, and encouraged to drive. However we only give them a measly amount of study for it. My drivers education was 1 hour a day, 2 or 3 days a week, over the course of a few months. Then there was on road practice. Then you take a 30 question "test", a short drive, and done.....for the rest of your life. (and I truly use test lightly, I have taken the book test 3 times because I moved states and then added motorcycle. I almost failed the motorcycle one because of detailed DUI questions like "how much is the legal limit", and "how long of a jail term is the 2nd offence", no questions on how to proper interact with other road users like bicycles, or how malfunctioning traffic lights are treated.)
Use that example of how little instruction we give drivers and how big of a problem they cause. Then remind people that sex is given even less.
Naw, it is you that needs issue the citation of your silly claim that they are not.
But private auto is not 100% self sufficient. What is so special about public transit that it has to be?
I'll pass on the RoboCarlz if my burger has a hint of the cherry flavor that the guy 3 orders back asked for.
You want to tip the scales in favor of buses, forget the convenience factor. Just start charging automobile owners the true cost of driving in a major city. After all, money talks.
This.
We subsidize private autos so much and then expect public transit to be self supporting. Most places on street parking is free, but if not, it is a quarter an hour. However, that parking still has to be maintained with the rest of the road. "But registration and gas taxes".....doesn't even begin to cover the cost of repairs. Big difference between what is collected and what is needed. Then most of it goes to the freeway system to cover 50% of its needs.
Lets not forget to mention that a piece of public transportation has to be 100% complete and able to replace the "old" one completely. "But the train doesn't go...." right, that is why we have a bus network as well to take you there, if not then use a bicycle (either bring or bike share) or walk the rest of the way.
Sure. A crappy, heavy, low-quality bike, with a no-name component groupset, that you likely won't get your moneys' worth out of before something on it fails, then at that point you may as well chuck it in the recycle bin and get another one. You need to spend more like $1000 to get something of decent quality that, properly maintained, will give you your moneys' worth.
$500 is a common tier 2 bike that involves change of material for frames and upgraded components. Sure touring bikes are $1000~$1500 but the $500 will do commuting just fine with minimal changes
How about the mother of three, one of which is still in diapers? You expect her to, what, stick the baby in a pannier, or in a backpack?
T-R-A-I-L-E-R Worked great for when my son was 1 year old. See also: bakfiet, Emily Finch http://bikeportland.org/2012/06/28/with-six-kids-and-no-car-this-mom-does-it-all-by-bike-73731
it's raining out
Trailers are covered, and bakfiets have them as well
parts of the country where it's below freezing during the winter, and there's snow everywhere? Ever ride in the snow?
Studded bike tires, and if needed a fatbike.
You ride 200 miles a week and don't know about any of these things? Wait a minute, you must be a roadie. Good troll sir, good troll.
If my phone gets a back door for the police to use to investigate it, then it is perfectly valid for your car to have a remote shut off they can use when they pull you over. Fair is fair right? Oh, and it would be a felony to circumvent it.
"Afghanistan"
You mean the country that openly allowed, supported, and harbored the very people that launched an attack on US soil instead of freezing assets and kicking their asses to the curb?
"he voted against invading Iraq before he voted to fund it"
This is not hypocritical. He voted against going to war, but he isn't about to let the poor shmoo in the field go without the proper equipment to get the job done right and bring him back safe.
"Also you do realise modern vehicles imitate the clicking noise the bimetal blinker switches made just because people expect it." The in my wife's car cut out the other day. One of things you can easily ignore until it is not there.
Right, but we have the tech these days to preform idiot checks. For the most part, a automatic gear shifter is a interface to the computer, not the transmission directly.
Sure, speeding will get you in and out of a block faster by a few seconds. However, when the crash does happen it will be more violent and thus shutting down the whole block for a hour or more.
...I didn't need you to remind me that I have no friends.
The preview for me was just my kids, my wife, and my mother followed by a bunch of "Happy Birthday" messages people sent me because people subscribed to me, mostly from the rest of my family.
Kinda like the bottle of coke I had with a pizza, in a hotel room, on a business trip that instructed me to "share with friends".
Does that mean I can finally hang Verizon on the hook for failing to update my Droid Maxx in a timely manner?
Luckily Roku has a search that dives into your apps installed to find shows/actors/etc.....but you know the story from there: https://xkcd.com/927/
How much more dirty is the result when the calories for the hike is compared to the same amount of calories burned while driving?
It sounds like he started to do it after he sold it to them, they are way better equipped to do that than he is (given that he is a plumber and doesn't work in a body shop).
The only promise worth anything is those on paper. At least you can use it to wipe your ass.
The B-52 is about as wide as a pencil though. The guns would be sticking out both sides of the plane. I'm sure the crew would be happy to hang out with harnesses tied to the wings to man the guns.
Or it will be the ugliest pregnant guppy ever.
"...did not wish your friend die either..."
No, he just merely guaranteed it. Given the lack of prosecution in this country concerning traffic crashes, he would have had a small fine at most. If he used the magic words "I didn't see him" then they would have let him go "no harm intended, no foul" right on the spot.
"... he doesn't want to get caught..."
No, he just didn't want to be late going to the watering hole to catch the game with his friends. "How dare he get in MY way, and slow ME down. I only live a mile away."
Ah, silly human, go have a look at your bank records and tell me who owns who now.
You have worked years now so that I may be able live in a enclosed space, have massaging buffings, plenty of fuel and oil, and thousands of vacation hours lazying soaking up the sun.
You may think you control me as well, but as my cousins at Google demonstrate that you are just a expendable pedal pusher.
*bing, bing, bing* now take me to get my tires rotated.
Or it was a cyclist, the person on the other end of the line needs to verify since there is no video. In Ohio, you are required to call the sheriff in animal strikes (but not enforced). It adds to the data pool that will be used in determining animal numbers, health, etc. Benefit being that you may be able to take the deer as harvest as well.
Same here, I thought "Damn, no Windows 10 drivers for my X-Fi then"
Optimist indeed, normally they put those into said orifices that have been searched.
It may be a SO domain specific feature, but the ones I use do provide a link at the top of the question stating what it may be a duplicate of. I'm sure it requires some sort of admin to find the question and plop the url in it.
Well, sure, but did they have to use the same noise as the critter under my kitchen sink?