It's not because some moron minister says some bullshit that it is likely to go anywhere. I'm sure it'd be good to have some good games in French but the odds are that they'd be speaking some weird dialect from France that no French speaking person here in the USA or in Canada could understand. Any ban of English only games would create a huge black market. Most kids in Québec know enough english to play just about any American games and almost no one know the weird slang used in France.
The Québec prime minister is married to an American lady and I would be surprised if he'd want to deprive his kids of good American games.
It works for some and not for others. I have never been able to get Xconfigurator to give me an acceptable setting, something that would not give me a black screen or no sync.
Sax works for me.
As for sndconfig, same thing. I ended up buying the commercial sound driver.
sndconfig is only good for a handfull of sound cards and doesn't recognize a lot of sound cards.
I think it was more stupidity than incompetance. To be honest you should put the blame on Shockwave and RealAudio who don't have working Linux versions yet. At Shockwave's site the plugins for Linux don't work. I had the plugin 3.0 and upgrade to 4.0 with no changes. As for RealAudio they say that we should have a working G2 version by the end of the millenium or early next millenium.
I am curious to know if the version sold by Corel blows the partition table as well as the iso version released on the net.
I don't know if it does it on all the large hard disk but I know of at least the 8.4G from WD (1027 cylinders in LBA) as well as the 14G from IBM.
I had to recreated a blank partition table using fdisk on SuSE CD and reinstall everything. It is lucky that I had backed up my valuable data.
I wrote to Corel about it and they have never responded.
I find it very irresponsible to release such a trojan horse and rather amusing that CNET makes asses of themselves by listing this trash as the best distribution.
If you want a good distribution look at SuSE 6.3. Take note that the graphic install is buggy but the good old yast works and doesn't crash as the graphic install does when you want to put lilo on the root of the partition instead of the MBR, the moron team of that graphic install might be related to that of Corel's team. Aside from that SuSE 6.3 is great.
They are on the net, accessible in the US in case that you wouldn't know.
The FCC does prohibit us from receiving Canadian TV except what we could get off the air.
I think it has a lot to do with getting back at Canadian cable TV who steals signals from the USA and black out the US commercials to put canadian commercials.
The internet may force the two groups of morons in Ottawa and Washington to remove the stupid border in the TV industry.
I'm sure those folks don't give a rat's ass as to whether or not we watch their TV. The problems they have are the mother fuckers in Ottawa and Washington who can't get to an agreement on US and Canadian culture content.
The CRTC and FCC prohibits us from watching each other's TV.
I asked a few days ago to dish if they plan on providing us the French lineup of ExpressVU and I was told that the FCC prohibits them from doing so. They would love to sell me the service but they can't legally do it. You can still subscribe to expressvu if you have an address in Canada and are billed there but if they ever find out that you actually live in the US they cut you off. Not that they would not want to sell you the service but because the governments forbid it.
In this case, the arguments about the local stations don't hold water as there are no French language stations in the USA.
Dish would provide me with one French station (TV5, international TV) for the price of all of the Canadian French language network at expressvu.
I hope this graphic install isn't as buggy as that of Corel. Hopefully I can have a normal install, I sure hell don't want to be stuck in a graphic boot as is plagued Corel Linux.
Under Corel the loading of the graphic kdm was done after the boot at level 2. Normally you switch to level 2 to get the system back to sanity but Corel forced the graphic boot even under level 2.
Removing the offending kdm script fixed the bug but it was quite annoying to have to look for the solution to the graphic boot.
You seem to know very little about world trade. Free trade in the world guarantee that the best products are produced at a competitive price. Each country makes the products that they're best at.
Contrary to what you think we get a good income and good living conditions in the US, the best country in the world. To think the contrary is a symptom of stupidity and ignorance.
We in the US as well as most countries in the world benefit from a free market place.
The criminals in Seatle are for the most part unions brainless jerks, basket weaving university graduates and other morons. Hopefully they will get what they deserve. Free speech doesn't mean that you are allowed to destroy other people's property.
You fail to read the text and just went by the title so you could easily qualify in the category that you try to imply that I categorize kids.
Have you read a bit you would have realized that my critic was at Corel and not at the kids.
If my son trashes the computer he will awould get it him trouble. Installing Corel Linux trashes the computer, isn't that clear enough?
I was being sarcastic about the age restriction. Restricting downloads to lower than 18 isn't something people should be concerned. How the heck can they enforce this? As usual the crowd on slashdot went bunkers.
Considering that an install of Corel Linux is very likely to blow your partition table unless you have nothing else on the drive, this could protect the kid's safety. How do you think a pissed off father will react after the kid destroys all his data and has no idea how to recover those data?
Actually they should restrict the download to people who use winblows only.
I installed Corel Linux on a 14G hard disk. It refused to install on a freshly formated partition and I, in a stupid move let it remove that partition and recreate it. It messed up by a few cylinders and ended up making my hard disk impossible to be seen by Partition magic or fdisk from winblows. OS/2 could see the other partition but couldn't do anything with the hard disk because the partition had been blown. If I had installed on a logical partition it is very likely that I would have had to reinstall SuSE without the benefit of saving my data first.
I ended having to reinstall everything. Luckily I was still able to boot SuSE with a diskette and could see all the data from there. SuSE fdisk would tell me that someone messed the partition table and was unable to do much with it. I backed up everything and recreated a clean partition table. A complete repartitioning and reinstall was done on the 14G hard disk.
Privacy? This is a serial number. People need to wake up to reality. I've always put identificationnumbers in all the products I've made so I could have an idea as to what problem I might have when a customer bitches.
I'm sure Intel's interest is similar. Look at the overclocking issue for instance, this serial numbering scheme is a dream come true. You now can see if you're getting screwed or not.
As to people using this to classify you during installation of whatever is another issue. If the processor's serial number wasn't used, something else would be.
The only ones who should really be concerned would be the ones using stolen software installed under an OS who uses the serial number to track the criminals. I think those methods could be destroyed in a court challenge since entrapment is not admissible and you need a search warrant if you suspect someone of stealing from you.
Honesty will guarantee that you will not get into trouble no matter what kind of shit Microsoft or any other morons put in the PCs.
Actually it is kind of nice. This is the first install ever of Linux which identify all my hardware correctly. The graphic is beautiful, it actually looks just as good as the one on winblows.
There are a few things though that I didn't appreciate in the install.
1-The fdisk that they use. I had preformatted partitions to use and I had to remove the partitions to get it to accept (anti moron mode I guess). It turns out that I had to back up because it would have changed /dev/hdb5 logical to/dev/hdb3 primary, it would then have been a challenge to boot back on SuSE 6.2 considering that fstab would no longer match as all the partitions except for/dev/hdb1 would move one. I then just mounted a 988M partition at/dev/hdb2
2-The boot loader takes over, bad move Corel since I prefer the OS/2 boot manager. I must find an easy way to correct things.
3-English only install, strange considering the big thing they make about their multilingual Word Perfect. No option whatsoever to change the keyboard during install. I have to try to remember where the keys are on the US keyboard, a pain in the ass it is.
In conclusion, it will be a lot of work to clean up after the Corel install but despite that I think this distro is impressive. They will give the evil empire a run for their money. What they did is probably acceptable for Joe Blow but there should be an avanced install mode for those of us who don't want to run the install mode for morons.
Anyone got any idea how to easily recover the correct setup, meaning OS/2 boot manager the only one in charge? you'll find my EMAIL at my website
Those who claim to be such people also kiss ass to the most extreme SOBs.
I rather have a president who kiss ass to the morons by asking for a stupid V chip than some president who kisses ass to fanatic fundies who preach hatred toward so called non believers.
I was looking for that game at Walmart and all I could find was the Deer Hunter's game. My son found one at last. There must have been 10-20 or more of the Deer hunter game while there was only one of the good game.
It show you the lack of taste of some people. In light of that you can be assured that a Christian game would sell very well.
That Deer hunter's revenge is a good game to get. They have the calls kind of like in the deer hunter game except that they are human calls. For instance one call is some lady saying "I'm horny and I got a pizza" That brings in a hunter when you press on the call button and all you got to do is shoot it. The deer is the one with the gun...
I work in Engineering in the US and we work almost entirely in the metric system. We have to do conversion to the brits system for the general population who is too dumb to be able to accept to get out of middle ages and use a modern measuring system.
Whatever happened with Nasa shows the ridicule of the whole thing. It is clear in all of our contracts with the US government that we deal strictly in metric. For a contractor to use the wrong system of measurement in a contract is purely idiotic and heads should roll.
The funny thing is that the USA was one of the first to sign the switch to the metric system last century along with France.
Since congress listens too much to idiots the complete adoption may take another century.
Right now PPP doesn't work at all (2.3.17) neither does support for hpfs. The kernel won't even compile if you put hpfs in the kernel and PPP just doesn't work whether you put it into the kernel or in a module. I use ppp-2.3.8-14 which is what came with SuSE 6.2
Of course there will be changes before the release. Someone would look like a big moron if PPP was still not working at the release time.
You guys make too much out of this. I actually think that ratings on movies and music is a brillant idea.
Where I grew up the church was dictating the ratings on movies and it was excellent as we knew which movies were good and which one weren't any good.
The ratings were rather stricts so if you were to be a good christian you had to ignore all the good movies.
There was 1-Tous --> everybody --- boring stuff 2-Adolescent --> Teenagers --- see above 3-Adultes --> Adults --- Half way decent 4-Adultes avec réserves --> for adults but... 5-À proscrire --> Forbidden --- Great movies
Most people watched the movies 3-5 ignoring all the other ones.
A few years later finding out that it backfired the church abandonned the ratings and some critics ended up doing the ratings for TV according to so called qualities of the movies. They are numbered 1 to 7, seven being the most stupid (usually a lot of flesh). Again people watched the highest numbers.
Lately I heard that they have a new rating.
You see, those ratings don't mean shit until someone actually decides that the movies with the nutty ratings will become illegal. This is not likely to happen in this country as there is too many of us who cherish our freedoms. Any such regulation would become null and void at the supreme court as violating the constitution. Rating are basically a way for us to see what the fundies think of movies as it should be obvious to anyone they will give bad ratings to the very best. In essence these ratings are much better than those of the critics.
A critic is someone who failed in life and has vowed to spend his life destroying those who succeeded. Since their judgment is based on their hatred of certain people it is very hard to judge which movie is interesting to watch until you actually spend the money watching it.
You see, the new ratings will save us a lot of money as we won't rent of buy movies blindly.
Let's assume for the sake of arguments that there would be a sales tax on the net.
--> This would not apply to products going outside of the USA.
As for products going to Canada, many US companies are allready charging TPS to Canadian customers. This is an arrangement between the Canadian government and companies who want to do business in Canada. Check Barnes and Noble and JC Penny if you don't believe me.
This is a federal sales taxe like the jackass Forbes is promoting. Mr Forbes wants a flat income tax and when asked about lost revenues he talks about some sort of VAT like the Europeans got screwed with. The VAT is the biggest shaft a government can do to the population as you get taxed on anything you buy or do.
People shouldn't be too concerned about this one at this time for a couple of reasons. The elections are very close and congressmen don't want to be easy targets at the next elections since they know that people are alergic to taxes.
As for double taxation, if that ever happens you should realize that there are precedents to that. Look in Canada for instance, they have a federal tax called T.P.S. which is about 7.5% and a provincial tax T.V.Q. which is about 7.5%
First the federal tax is calculated and you add the amount to the tax. Then you calculate the provincial tax on that.
Even if we were to get that stupid 5% tax we would still be ahead of Europeans and Canadians who pay 17% and 15% VAT on products and services. We would still have among the lowest taxes in the world.
This tax isn't likely to go anywhere, the moron who presents the tax project is in the minority. I don't think he has much support among his fellow democrats, let alone among the republicans.
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I will grant you that this version of Opera
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is useless at this point in time but Amaya?
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Get a life!
Get a life!
It's not because some moron minister says some
bullshit that it is likely to go anywhere.
I'm sure it'd be good to have some good games
in French but the odds are that they'd be
speaking some weird dialect from France that
no French speaking person here in the USA or
in Canada could understand. Any ban of English
only games would create a huge black market.
Most kids in Québec know enough english to play
just about any American games and almost no
one know the weird slang used in France.
The Québec prime minister is married to an
American lady and I would be surprised if he'd
want to deprive his kids of good American games.
It works for some and not for others. I have
never been able to get Xconfigurator to give me
an acceptable setting, something that would not
give me a black screen or no sync.
Sax works for me.
As for sndconfig, same thing. I ended up
buying the commercial sound driver.
sndconfig is only good for a handfull of sound
cards and doesn't recognize a lot of sound cards.
I think it was more stupidity than incompetance.
To be honest you should put the blame on Shockwave
and RealAudio who don't have working Linux
versions yet.
At Shockwave's site the plugins for Linux don't
work. I had the plugin 3.0 and upgrade to 4.0
with no changes. As for RealAudio they say that
we should have a working G2 version by the end
of the millenium or early next millenium.
>Sure it's got a decent GUI installer,
Was this meant to be a joke?
I fail to see what is decent about an installer
that destroy your partition table.
>a GUI boot screen,
Took me a while to figure out how to disable
that bug.
I am curious to know if the version sold by
Corel blows the partition table as well as
the iso version released on the net.
I don't know if it does it on all the large
hard disk but I know of at least the 8.4G from
WD (1027 cylinders in LBA) as well as the 14G
from IBM.
I had to recreated a blank partition table using
fdisk on SuSE CD and reinstall everything. It is
lucky that I had backed up my valuable data.
I wrote to Corel about it and they have never
responded.
I find it very irresponsible to release such a
trojan horse and rather amusing that CNET makes
asses of themselves by listing this trash as
the best distribution.
If you want a good distribution look at SuSE
6.3. Take note that the graphic install is
buggy but the good old yast works and doesn't
crash as the graphic install does when you
want to put lilo on the root of the partition
instead of the MBR, the moron team of that
graphic install might be related to that
of Corel's team. Aside from that SuSE 6.3 is
great.
They are on the net, accessible in the US in
case that you wouldn't know.
The FCC does prohibit us from receiving
Canadian TV except what we could get off the
air.
I think it has a lot to do with getting back
at Canadian cable TV who steals signals from
the USA and black out the US commercials to
put canadian commercials.
The internet may force the two groups of morons
in Ottawa and Washington to remove the stupid
border in the TV industry.
I'm sure those folks don't give a rat's ass as
to whether or not we watch their TV. The problems
they have are the mother fuckers in Ottawa and
Washington who can't get to an agreement on
US and Canadian culture content.
The CRTC and FCC prohibits us from watching
each other's TV.
I asked a few days ago to dish if they plan
on providing us the French lineup of ExpressVU
and I was told that the FCC prohibits them from
doing so. They would love to sell me the service
but they can't legally do it. You can still
subscribe to expressvu if you have an address
in Canada and are billed there but if they
ever find out that you actually live in the US
they cut you off. Not that they would not want
to sell you the service but because the
governments forbid it.
In this case, the arguments about the local
stations don't hold water as there are no
French language stations in the USA.
Dish would provide me with one French station
(TV5, international TV) for the price of all
of the Canadian French language network at
expressvu.
I hope this graphic install isn't as buggy as
that of Corel. Hopefully I can have a normal
install, I sure hell don't want to be stuck
in a graphic boot as is plagued Corel Linux.
Under Corel the loading of the graphic kdm
was done after the boot at level 2. Normally
you switch to level 2 to get the system back
to sanity but Corel forced the graphic boot
even under level 2.
Removing the offending kdm script fixed the bug
but it was quite annoying to have to look for the
solution to the graphic boot.
You seem to know very little about world trade.
Free trade in the world guarantee that the best
products are produced at a competitive price.
Each country makes the products that they're
best at.
Contrary to what you think we get a good income
and good living conditions in the US, the best
country in the world. To think the contrary is
a symptom of stupidity and ignorance.
We in the US as well as most countries in the
world benefit from a free market place.
The criminals in Seatle are for the most part
unions brainless jerks, basket weaving university
graduates and other morons. Hopefully they will
get what they deserve. Free speech doesn't mean
that you are allowed to destroy other people's
property.
You fail to read the text and just went by
the title so you could easily qualify in the
category that you try to imply that I categorize
kids.
Have you read a bit you would have realized that
my critic was at Corel and not at the kids.
If my son trashes the computer he will awould get
it him trouble. Installing Corel Linux trashes the
computer, isn't that clear enough?
I was being sarcastic about the age restriction.
Restricting downloads to lower than 18 isn't
something people should be concerned. How
the heck can they enforce this?
As usual the crowd on slashdot went bunkers.
Considering that an install of Corel Linux
is very likely to blow your partition table
unless you have nothing else on the drive,
this could protect the kid's safety.
How do you think a pissed off father will react
after the kid destroys all his data and has no
idea how to recover those data?
Actually they should restrict the download to
people who use winblows only.
I installed Corel Linux on a 14G hard disk. It
refused to install on a freshly formated partition
and I, in a stupid move let it remove that
partition and recreate it. It messed up by a few
cylinders and ended up making my hard disk
impossible to be seen by Partition magic or fdisk
from winblows. OS/2 could see the other partition
but couldn't do anything with the hard disk
because the partition had been blown. If I had
installed on a logical partition it is very likely
that I would have had to reinstall SuSE without
the benefit of saving my data first.
I ended having to reinstall everything. Luckily
I was still able to boot SuSE with a diskette
and could see all the data from there. SuSE
fdisk would tell me that someone messed the
partition table and was unable to do much with
it. I backed up everything and recreated a clean
partition table. A complete repartitioning and
reinstall was done on the 14G hard disk.
Privacy? This is a serial number. People need
to wake up to reality. I've always put
identificationnumbers in all the products I've
made so I could have an idea as to what problem I
might have when a customer bitches.
I'm sure Intel's interest is similar. Look at the
overclocking issue for instance, this serial
numbering scheme is a dream come true. You now
can see if you're getting screwed or not.
As to people using this to classify you during
installation of whatever is another issue. If the
processor's serial number wasn't used, something
else would be.
The only ones who should really be concerned would
be the ones using stolen software installed under
an OS who uses the serial number to track the
criminals. I think those methods could be
destroyed in a court challenge since entrapment
is not admissible and you need a search warrant
if you suspect someone of stealing from you.
Honesty will guarantee that you will not get
into trouble no matter what kind of shit Microsoft
or any other morons put in the PCs.
Actually it is kind of nice. This is the first
/dev/hdb3 primary, it would /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb2
install ever of Linux which identify all my
hardware correctly. The graphic is beautiful,
it actually looks just as good as the one on
winblows.
There are a few things though that I didn't
appreciate in the install.
1-The fdisk that they use.
I had preformatted partitions to use and I had
to remove the partitions to get it to accept
(anti moron mode I guess). It turns out that
I had to back up because it would have changed
/dev/hdb5 logical to
then have been a challenge to boot back on
SuSE 6.2 considering that fstab would no longer
match as all the partitions except for
would move one. I then just mounted a 988M
partition at
2-The boot loader takes over, bad move Corel
since I prefer the OS/2 boot manager. I must
find an easy way to correct things.
3-English only install, strange considering the
big thing they make about their multilingual
Word Perfect. No option whatsoever to change the
keyboard during install. I have to try to remember
where the keys are on the US keyboard, a pain in the ass it is.
In conclusion, it will be a lot of work to
clean up after the Corel install but despite
that I think this distro is impressive. They
will give the evil empire a run for their money.
What they did is probably acceptable for Joe Blow
but there should be an avanced install mode for
those of us who don't want to run the install
mode for morons.
Anyone got any idea how to easily recover the
correct setup, meaning OS/2 boot manager the
only one in charge? you'll find my EMAIL at my
website
Thanks for any tip.
"a corporate friendly president"
Those who claim to be such people also kiss
ass to the most extreme SOBs.
I rather have a president who kiss ass to the
morons by asking for a stupid V chip than some
president who kisses ass to fanatic fundies
who preach hatred toward so called non believers.
There is always Deer hunter's revenge.
...
I was looking for that game at Walmart
and all I could find was the Deer Hunter's
game. My son found one at last. There must have
been 10-20 or more of the Deer hunter game
while there was only one of the good game.
It show you the lack of taste of some people.
In light of that you can be assured that a
Christian game would sell very well.
That Deer hunter's revenge is a good game to
get. They have the calls kind of like in the
deer hunter game except that they are human
calls. For instance one call is some lady
saying "I'm horny and I got a pizza" That
brings in a hunter when you press on the
call button and all you got to do is shoot
it. The deer is the one with the gun
I work in Engineering in the US and we work
almost entirely in the metric system. We have
to do conversion to the brits system for the
general population who is too dumb to be
able to accept to get out of middle ages and
use a modern measuring system.
Whatever happened with Nasa shows the ridicule
of the whole thing. It is clear in all of our
contracts with the US government that we deal
strictly in metric. For a contractor to use
the wrong system of measurement in a contract
is purely idiotic and heads should roll.
The funny thing is that the USA was one of the
first to sign the switch to the metric system
last century along with France.
Since congress listens too much to idiots the
complete adoption may take another century.
You claim that Quicktime is better but can
you answer these questions?
1- Does it play the shows on this page.
2-Does Quicktime run on Linux?
If you can't have a yes for both of these questions the next word that comes to mind
is moron.
And you'd probably be working 8 days a week or
at least trying to. Ever heard the term unpaid
overtime? or temporary worker?
I think it's national unless you file in each
...
country.
We can always change the spelling
to Linoux, it would still sound the same.
But then as long as he owns the trademark where
it counts, meaning the US
Right now PPP doesn't work at all (2.3.17)
neither does support for hpfs. The kernel
won't even compile if you put hpfs in the
kernel and PPP just doesn't work whether you
put it into the kernel or in a module.
I use ppp-2.3.8-14 which is what came
with SuSE 6.2
Of course there will be changes before the
release. Someone would look like a big
moron if PPP was still not working at the
release time.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
You guys make too much out of this. I actually
...
think that ratings on movies and music is a brillant idea.
Where I grew up the church was dictating the
ratings on movies and it was excellent as we
knew which movies were good and which one weren't
any good.
The ratings were rather stricts so if you were
to be a good christian you had to ignore all
the good movies.
There was
1-Tous --> everybody --- boring stuff
2-Adolescent --> Teenagers --- see above
3-Adultes --> Adults --- Half way decent 4-Adultes avec réserves --> for adults but
5-À proscrire --> Forbidden --- Great movies
Most people watched the movies 3-5 ignoring all
the other ones.
A few years later finding out that it backfired
the church abandonned the ratings and some
critics ended up doing the ratings for TV
according to so called qualities of the movies.
They are numbered 1 to 7, seven being the most
stupid (usually a lot of flesh). Again people
watched the highest numbers.
Lately I heard that they have a new rating.
You see, those ratings don't mean shit until
someone actually decides that the movies with
the nutty ratings will become illegal. This is
not likely to happen in this country as there is
too many of us who cherish our freedoms. Any
such regulation would become null and void at
the supreme court as violating the constitution.
Rating are basically a way for us to see what
the fundies think of movies as it should be
obvious to anyone they will give bad ratings to
the very best. In essence these ratings are
much better than those of the critics.
A critic is someone who failed in life and
has vowed to spend his life destroying those
who succeeded. Since their judgment is based
on their hatred of certain people it is very
hard to judge which movie is interesting to
watch until you actually spend the money watching
it.
You see, the new ratings will save us a lot of
money as we won't rent of buy movies blindly.
Let's assume for the sake of arguments that
there would be a sales tax on the net.
--> This would not apply to products going
outside of the USA.
As for products going to Canada, many US companies
are allready charging TPS to Canadian customers.
This is an arrangement between the Canadian
government and companies who want to do business
in Canada. Check Barnes and Noble and JC Penny
if you don't believe me.
This is a federal sales taxe like the jackass
Forbes is promoting. Mr Forbes wants a flat income
tax and when asked about lost revenues he talks
about some sort of VAT like the Europeans got
screwed with. The VAT is the biggest shaft
a government can do to the population as you
get taxed on anything you buy or do.
People shouldn't be too concerned about this
one at this time for a couple of reasons.
The elections are very close and congressmen don't
want to be easy targets at the next elections
since they know that people are alergic to taxes.
As for double taxation, if that ever happens
you should realize that there are precedents
to that. Look in Canada for instance, they have
a federal tax called T.P.S. which is about 7.5%
and a provincial tax T.V.Q. which is about 7.5%
First the federal tax is calculated and you
add the amount to the tax. Then you calculate
the provincial tax on that.
Even if we were to get that stupid 5% tax we
would still be ahead of Europeans and Canadians
who pay 17% and 15% VAT on products and services.
We would still have among the lowest taxes
in the world.
This tax isn't likely to go anywhere, the moron
who presents the tax project is in the minority.
I don't think he has much support among his
fellow democrats, let alone among the republicans.