I guess that would be a save bet since scenario #2 is already happening, even without the new anti-piracy measures. I've seen (licenced) windows systems where the "new updates ready to be installed" icon in the systray had been ignored for over half a year...
nothing [...] can ultimately compare to the question of Human survival.
I think most (non-domesticated) animals won't agree. I hope you ment to say something like this: "to us, nothing can ultimately compare to the question of Human survival."
The Earth is truly nothing without us.
Yeah, just like earth was truly nothing during those 4 billion years that passed before we came along.
You may think I'm some vegetarian, pot-smoking hippy. But then again, I am.
Ah, absinthe! The source inspiration of many artists and geniuses.
It contains a chemical compound very similar to THC (the active component of marihuana), and it's been banned in Holland for a long long time, which is quite odd 'cause buying pot is legal here. Many believed it would make you crazy like hell. However, science could never back this statement, and now (thanks to new EU laws) it's available again since last year.
I like your choice in drinks. I'm not sure about the music though:P
On the subject of drunk coding, it has always worked out good for me. In my experience it's especially usefull when prototyping. It helps me think "out of the box".
IANAD, but unless you have a tanin intolerance, drinking (quality) red wine is the "healthiest" form of alcohol consumption.
Healthwise, beer isn't too bad either, but personally I find it harder to stop drinking after 2-3 beers than after 2-3 glasses of wine.
What worries me is that today's teens don't seem to like beer or wine. Instead they drink premixes like Bacardi Breezer and Smirnoff Ice. The high sugar levels in such drinks gets the alcohol into the bloodstream much faster. The sugar also makes it taste like lemonade, and gives you an energy boost so you can keep drinking those little bottles of poison all night long.
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99.9% of irc usage would be illegal if there was a law banning totally pointless conversations.
On another note, did anybody else notice that/. was down for a few hours earlier today?
Yes, I noticed. The scary part: My first reaction was to log into irc and ask if others where experiencing the error too. For a moment I thought the sysadmins at the office had found out about my/. addiction and wrote a firewall rule just for me:-|
Man, I need a life. That or a more interesting job...
Wasn't that said thousands of years ago in your country, only it wasn't the soviets, it was "If anybody attacks..."?
So your saying that "thousands of years ago", when the rest of the world was still fighting with swords, spears and bows (or even sticks and stones depending on the amount of thousands), the Swiss already had firearms? Who would have guessed!
He's simply introducing himself to the community at large.
I wish he was... Check out the guy's previous comments, he introduced himself quite enough already. It's getting old. I agree the AC's reply is much more disturbing though.
I agree with the grandparent that some (linux) desktops (cough kde cough) try too hard to make windows users feel comfy. I mean come on! Taskbar, start button, desktop icons, context menus... those are all concepts invented in the '80s and early '90s (or even earlier?).
Everytime a new desktop system is created, it (more or less) just copies those concepts. As a result the choice of desktop is nearly irrelevant. I feel like there's too little innovation in the desktop world because developers fail to think "outside the PARC box".
If everyone thought we should just stick to existing paradigms we'd still use horses for transportation;)
You're joking, right? If you buy consumer electronics (like a tablet pc) that run linux out-of-the-box, you usually won't need to edit ANY configuration. It's a fixed hardware platform that's been designed specificly to run linux. If you do have to edit the configuration, there's always a GUI provided AFAIK.
I own a Linksys wireless AP. It runs linux. Do you seriously think I need to ssh to the AP and use VI or whatever to edit it's configuration? Where have you been the last couple of years?
Linux on devices that are designed for linux is a very different experience than running linux on a "normal" PC.
That's why I hope that in the near future new houses will be fitted with cat5 (or even glassfiber) by default. The constructor could easily run the wires together with the electricity and phone lines.
The advice about avoiding a local app is GREAT advice. Version control is a total pain in the ass.
This would indeed be great advice when working with other platforms. Java however, has a great client-side application distribution system called Webstart. When set up properly, this will make all version control nightmares go away. When a new version of the client-side app arrives, you simply put it on the server and the clients are automagicly updated the next time they start it. It also makes deploying the app to the client as easy as starting a web app.
Client-side apps can be a real advantage if you need a more complex UI. Things like drag/drop functionality, context menus and keyboard shortcuts can help you deliver a richer user experience. In webapps you're basicly limited to leftclicks.
I think the best approach would be to build a backend infrastructure thats independant of the client. This way you can access the system from web apps for simple operations *and* from client-side apps for the more complex ones.
Maybe you should read the other replies before posting. There already is a "I could/couldn't care less..." discussion in this thread, and it started more that *seven* hours before your post.
Kudos for being a grammer nazi AND redundant in the same post.
She'll notice when she hits one of those "IE only" sites. Then you'll have to explain why that site is not working anymore, and how to open it in IE instead.
This "make it look like IE" tactic will confuse the hell out of allmost *any* user. Deception is not the way to get people to use Firefox. Just explain why this change is needed. If they still insist on using IE, Tell them you will no longer remove spyware from their machine.
IIRC ActiveX controls can do anything a.exe can. They are not sandboxed or otherwise isolated from the OS. They can read write and delete files on your HD, alter the registry, etc. XPIs on the other hand, only have access to certain APIs that Firefox exposes to them. IMO this makes XPI more trustworthy than ActiveX.
The idea of a "world leader" being influenced by fiction novels is hilarious. The scary part is that it actually might be true concidering Mr. Bush's intelligence...
What makes one think terrorists need Tom Clancy for ideas? Are terrorists considered too dumb to come up with these thing themself? If that's the case I fail to see how they can organize global networks, or pose any threat to a world power at all...
Today's News: Bush fears that terrorists will read The Lord of the Ring. Osahma could use this information to forge "one ring to rule them all", giving him Real Ultimate Power(tm).
are they then immune from prosecution simply because they're helping expose lax security somehow?
I never said they would be "immune from prosecution". IMO no one should be. I just don't think it's *morally* wrong as long as you don't misuse the oppertunity for personal gain.
Also, your storage rental metaphore "doesn't fly"; One would need to physically take the stuff. Digital data can be copied. The company will not lose the data. No one gets hurt (except perhaps the guy in charge of data security, but that's the point;).
I leave my front door unlocked, you do not have the right to come in, remove all my stuff, and leave a post-it note on the door saying where you've put it.
There is a *huge* difference here. If I come into your house I'm invading your private domain. I agree I have no right to do so.
That being said, I think a company storing creditcard transactions (or other privacy-sensitive data) is something else. It's not their data. If they don't secure it properly, it's their fault if it ends up "on the street". They have the duty to protect the data their clients trust them with.
I'm doing the general public a favor by downloading the data. If I just point the security hole out to them, they will probably just shrug and ignore it. They were relying on "security by obscurity" and will continue to do so. However, if I can prove (to a newspaper or -site) that the data can easily be stolen, it won't be ignored. There will be presure from their clients to solve the problem.
And if I left my front door unlocked and happened to come back and find you inside, I'd be beating the crap out of you immediately without waiting to find whether you intended to take anything.
Relax, no need to get personal here. I'm not going to rob your house (or any house for that matter). However, I highly doubt that if I was, you'd be able to "beat the crap out of me". I'm a Wing Chung master you know...:-P
Justify that one, laddie.
As I said before, and I quote: "the guy featuring in this article probably had less good intentions". I do not feel the need to justify his actions as I think it can't be justified. Maybe you should re-read my previous comment. I'm not defending this guy, merely pointing out there are also non-malicious reasons to "steal" data.
Indeed. If I found a company that has such weak "security", I'd go in and take a look. If I found they had sensitive data (like cc transactions) on there, I'd copy it, just to prove a point.
Does this mean I'm a criminal SOB that deserves to be ass-raped in federal prison? I don't think so. I for one would *never* sell/use the obtained data. I have high moral standards and something like stealing from random people would definitly not be OK in my book. Using it to bring the security hole to attention (either by contacting the company itself or through the media/internet) is a whole other thing though.
Granted, the guy featuring in this article probably had less good intentions. But since he didn't use the cc data yet, I (technicly) would have commited the same "crime".
Now imagine the company you report your findings to is less than pleased with your services and calls the police. Next you're being judged by a court that, most likely, don't even understand what the case is about. Time to kiss your mother goodbye. Game over.
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I guess that would be a save bet since scenario #2 is already happening, even without the new anti-piracy measures. I've seen (licenced) windows systems where the "new updates ready to be installed" icon in the systray had been ignored for over half a year...
And msn! Don't forget msn!
So you're saying you are an eco-nut? This is confusing.
I think most (non-domesticated) animals won't agree. I hope you ment to say something like this:
" to us, nothing can ultimately compare to the question of Human survival."
Yeah, just like earth was truly nothing during those 4 billion years that passed before we came along.
You may think I'm some vegetarian, pot-smoking hippy. But then again, I am.
Ah, absinthe! The source inspiration of many artists and geniuses.
:P
It contains a chemical compound very similar to THC (the active component of marihuana), and it's been banned in Holland for a long long time, which is quite odd 'cause buying pot is legal here. Many believed it would make you crazy like hell. However, science could never back this statement, and now (thanks to new EU laws) it's available again since last year.
I like your choice in drinks. I'm not sure about the music though
On the subject of drunk coding, it has always worked out good for me. In my experience it's especially usefull when prototyping. It helps me think "out of the box".
IANAD, but unless you have a tanin intolerance, drinking (quality) red wine is the "healthiest" form of alcohol consumption.
Healthwise, beer isn't too bad either, but personally I find it harder to stop drinking after 2-3 beers than after 2-3 glasses of wine.
What worries me is that today's teens don't seem to like beer or wine. Instead they drink premixes like Bacardi Breezer and Smirnoff Ice. The high sugar levels in such drinks gets the alcohol into the bloodstream much faster. The sugar also makes it taste like lemonade, and gives you an energy boost so you can keep drinking those little bottles of poison all night long.
99.9% of irc usage would be illegal if there was a law banning totally pointless conversations.
Sure, here you go. http://www.ipaqlinux.com/
Yes, I noticed. The scary part: My first reaction was to log into irc and ask if others where experiencing the error too. For a moment I thought the sysadmins at the office had found out about my /. addiction and wrote a firewall rule just for me :-|
Man, I need a life. That or a more interesting job...
So your saying that "thousands of years ago", when the rest of the world was still fighting with swords, spears and bows (or even sticks and stones depending on the amount of thousands), the Swiss already had firearms? Who would have guessed!
I wish he was... Check out the guy's previous comments, he introduced himself quite enough already. It's getting old. I agree the AC's reply is much more disturbing though.
Apparently he advertises on /.
I agree with the grandparent that some (linux) desktops (cough kde cough) try too hard to make windows users feel comfy. I mean come on! Taskbar, start button, desktop icons, context menus... those are all concepts invented in the '80s and early '90s (or even earlier?).
Everytime a new desktop system is created, it (more or less) just copies those concepts. As a result the choice of desktop is nearly irrelevant. I feel like there's too little innovation in the desktop world because developers fail to think "outside the PARC box".
If everyone thought we should just stick to existing paradigms we'd still use horses for transportation ;)
You're joking, right? If you buy consumer electronics (like a tablet pc) that run linux out-of-the-box, you usually won't need to edit ANY configuration. It's a fixed hardware platform that's been designed specificly to run linux. If you do have to edit the configuration, there's always a GUI provided AFAIK.
I own a Linksys wireless AP. It runs linux. Do you seriously think I need to ssh to the AP and use VI or whatever to edit it's configuration? Where have you been the last couple of years?
Linux on devices that are designed for linux is a very different experience than running linux on a "normal" PC.
That's why I hope that in the near future new houses will be fitted with cat5 (or even glassfiber) by default. The constructor could easily run the wires together with the electricity and phone lines.
Strange choice of words. You don't see people using the metric and the imperial system in one line very often...
This would indeed be great advice when working with other platforms. Java however, has a great client-side application distribution system called Webstart. When set up properly, this will make all version control nightmares go away. When a new version of the client-side app arrives, you simply put it on the server and the clients are automagicly updated the next time they start it. It also makes deploying the app to the client as easy as starting a web app.
Client-side apps can be a real advantage if you need a more complex UI. Things like drag/drop functionality, context menus and keyboard shortcuts can help you deliver a richer user experience. In webapps you're basicly limited to leftclicks.
I think the best approach would be to build a backend infrastructure thats independant of the client. This way you can access the system from web apps for simple operations *and* from client-side apps for the more complex ones.
Maybe you should read the other replies before posting. There already is a "I could/couldn't care less..." discussion in this thread, and it started more that *seven* hours before your post.
Kudos for being a grammer nazi AND redundant in the same post.
I think you misspelled 'Meth' ;)
She'll notice when she hits one of those "IE only" sites. Then you'll have to explain why that site is not working anymore, and how to open it in IE instead.
This "make it look like IE" tactic will confuse the hell out of allmost *any* user. Deception is not the way to get people to use Firefox. Just explain why this change is needed. If they still insist on using IE, Tell them you will no longer remove spyware from their machine.
IIRC ActiveX controls can do anything a .exe can. They are not sandboxed or otherwise isolated from the OS. They can read write and delete files on your HD, alter the registry, etc. XPIs on the other hand, only have access to certain APIs that Firefox exposes to them. IMO this makes XPI more trustworthy than ActiveX.
The idea of a "world leader" being influenced by fiction novels is hilarious. The scary part is that it actually might be true concidering Mr. Bush's intelligence...
What makes one think terrorists need Tom Clancy for ideas? Are terrorists considered too dumb to come up with these thing themself? If that's the case I fail to see how they can organize global networks, or pose any threat to a world power at all...
Today's News: Bush fears that terrorists will read The Lord of the Ring. Osahma could use this information to forge "one ring to rule them all", giving him Real Ultimate Power(tm).
I never said they would be "immune from prosecution". IMO no one should be. I just don't think it's *morally* wrong as long as you don't misuse the oppertunity for personal gain.
Also, your storage rental metaphore "doesn't fly"; One would need to physically take the stuff. Digital data can be copied. The company will not lose the data. No one gets hurt (except perhaps the guy in charge of data security, but that's the point ;).
There is a *huge* difference here. If I come into your house I'm invading your private domain. I agree I have no right to do so.
That being said, I think a company storing creditcard transactions (or other privacy-sensitive data) is something else. It's not their data. If they don't secure it properly, it's their fault if it ends up "on the street". They have the duty to protect the data their clients trust them with.
I'm doing the general public a favor by downloading the data. If I just point the security hole out to them, they will probably just shrug and ignore it. They were relying on "security by obscurity" and will continue to do so. However, if I can prove (to a newspaper or -site) that the data can easily be stolen, it won't be ignored. There will be presure from their clients to solve the problem.
Relax, no need to get personal here. I'm not going to rob your house (or any house for that matter). However, I highly doubt that if I was, you'd be able to "beat the crap out of me". I'm a Wing Chung master you know... :-P
As I said before, and I quote: "the guy featuring in this article probably had less good intentions". I do not feel the need to justify his actions as I think it can't be justified. Maybe you should re-read my previous comment. I'm not defending this guy, merely pointing out there are also non-malicious reasons to "steal" data.
Indeed. If I found a company that has such weak "security", I'd go in and take a look. If I found they had sensitive data (like cc transactions) on there, I'd copy it, just to prove a point.
Does this mean I'm a criminal SOB that deserves to be ass-raped in federal prison? I don't think so. I for one would *never* sell/use the obtained data. I have high moral standards and something like stealing from random people would definitly not be OK in my book. Using it to bring the security hole to attention (either by contacting the company itself or through the media/internet) is a whole other thing though.
Granted, the guy featuring in this article probably had less good intentions. But since he didn't use the cc data yet, I (technicly) would have commited the same "crime".
Now imagine the company you report your findings to is less than pleased with your services and calls the police. Next you're being judged by a court that, most likely, don't even understand what the case is about. Time to kiss your mother goodbye. Game over.