There is a wonderful pub in north london (and I apologise that I cannot rememebr its name right now) that our company used to go to on the morning of major launches for a company breakfast.
Liver, bacon, sausages, black pudding, fried bread, mushrooms, tomatoes, fried eggs, beans, toast and most importantly a pint of Guinness - That keeps you going til lunch time!!!
Would anyone with mod points please mod parent as troll, offtopic or if generous perhaps funny.
As the other replies have pointed out he is spouting nonsense (voyager may leave our solar system 2009, but its a a few tens or thousands of years away from any other and I think its pretty unlikely its vector will take it to Alpha Centauri - I'll be honest I haven't checked)
I'll admit its plausable sounding nonsense, but as barnum said....
The FSF would rather you use glibc than you didn't. They are happy for you to dynamically link against it. They would rather people standardise on free software than there be lots of proprietry libraries, none of them tested as well as glibc for example.
They get very unhappy if you statically link however!!
In general if you link or use LGPL software in such a way that you could remove the LGPL item and replace it with something else not of that license (that may or may not exist, you just have to show in theory it could be created) then the FSF is quite clear that it is not a derivative work.
It gets a bit more complicated with the GPL, I think you can only get away with using that in system calls, not dynamically linking - hence the LGPL for libraries! Remember if you break the terms of the license, then you are not entitled to use the code in the first place, you either have the choice to play nice by their terms, or not use their code. They are not stopping you using your own.
Just an adendum to your points... its not just modified GPL code that you need to release. Its also the code of derivative works.
Its defining derivative (which differs between the LGPL and the GPL and also how you link to libraries) which is the other mine field.
In general if you dynamically link LGPL libraries or system call to binaries of either type you are safe from having to release your own code as GPL/LGPL
One of the other compliance issues that is uner the GPL that is trrival to meet but many companies fail to do so is that when you do use GPL code in such a way that you dont have to release your own code, you still have to aknowlege the use of such GPL code and either provide a copy of the source code in machine readable form or provide instructions to where it can be found (a few links to sourceforge is usually sufficient) since this is trivial to do it understanably annoys FOSS advocates when companies fail to do so.
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My point was is that you could reimplement the torrent transport layer under http and it willeasily go through a proxy.
The transport protocol doesn't really matter to the application - as long as it can send and recieve data.
Until now its been convinient to have all protocols different and on different ports, if ISPs choose to make it inconvinient then someone will just add a patch to torrent apps to let them talk in http and work over https
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then people will just do torrent over https, or ssh tunnelling over https, or ppp over https (and yes it can actually be done, corkscrew is the best example for ssh over https via a https proxy) I've played at ppp over https myself - a few hundred lines of code will get it working - true my version had tonnes of overhead so wasn't very efficient, but it proved the point well enough.
If torrent gets blocked at the protocol layer, it will just start working on top of a different protocol - there are plenty avilable!!
The chips are tested until they meet their quota for speed X, to qualify the chip must score speed X or higher, once they hit quota they stop testing for speed X and move to testing for speed Y, the next speed down, then they lock the chip down to that speed using multipliers (in the caseof CPUs) so you have a random chance of having a chip that either just scraped through test for speed Y or one that might have exceed speed X - its why over clocking works on some chips better than others - good OC chips are simply better chips labled (and probably locked down) as slower ones
Actually there is found to be a hormonal difference. Not in the adult, but in the womb during gestation.
The spacial acuity centers of the brain are formed by the pressence of high levels of testosterone in the womb. A study found this is pressent in about 99% of male gestations and about 10% of female gestations.
A long term study (conducted over 30 years) checked the progress of women that were meassured to have this high level of testosterone. They were found to have spatial acuity similar or better to most males (this isn't sexism, this is science, generally males have better spatial acuity - this is the reason why) and had a far higher chance of working in engineering or science.
This paper was published in the mid 90's. I'm afraid I cannot remember the name of the paper itself, all I do remember is that it was published in a journal under the joke title "Why women can't park cars"
The rival British system is likely to take at least a week but will include more sophisticated design features, with the computer's nozzle weaving in ducts for water pipes, electrical wiring and ventilation within the panels of gypsum or concrete.
I've used the new push together plastic plumbing myself to fit a shower - its extremely easy and down right fool proof. As long as these ducts were smooth and gently curved at corvers pushing this piping down it should not be an issue - ditto for electricals (and cat5)
The sensible designer would also future proof their house by having redundant ducting installed at build time for any future need.
I force myself to use them and my wife who uses the same machine
A few ACL changes make the games perfectly usuable install all games in c:\games and have that directory full control to all users
This means the total impact of a foolish action by a user can wipe out their account and all the games on the system. Much better than an admin account being compromised (ok ignoring priviledge ecalation attacks)
I recently had to remove a trojan from my wifes account - a fairly trival procedure given how limited her access to the system as a whole was. Reading up on the particular trojan I found that had it been able to get admin access it would have been much harder to remove.
Ok I'll concded on XP home without ACL controls its bloody hard to accomplish this. But if you have XP pro you really have no excuse.
(and to explain no I'm not a windows fan - I loathe the system especially as I frequently have to admin them in my work. I much prefer linux and am quite familiar with winex which I have work with extensively and created start up scripts for several games that would not work trvially out of the box. however I also know just how much of a pain it is to do this so stick to dual booting. not liking the OS is no excuse not to secure it properly)
I prefer to use spam assassin and use a couple of RBLs with various weightings on each.
I keep the weightings quite low since I find most of the RBLs too agressive - added to the bayes and other checks however it is quite good at pushing spam into the right destination (and for the very spammy thats/dev/null)
True this means I actually have to receive and process the mail rather than just arbitarily ignoring connections, but my mail server doesn't really get that much traffic as its only personal use.
The problem is your analogy is not exactly correct (which is the usual problem with analogies.
The difference between full disclosure and just informing the companies would be a lot closer to just telling the goverment and the WHO about bird flu cases but not telling any of the general public.
Still that oversimplification falls wide of the mark.
Its a generalisation but probably true that if you need to make an analogy of something in order to understand it (or explain it to a 3rd party) then you (or that 3rd party) should not be commenting on that topic (the old maxim "if you don't have anything useful to say then keep your mouth shut"). Guess that explains the proble with politians...
I think poor is a gross over statement of their service level.
That their phone number is a closely gaurded secret gives you an inkling to their thoughts on the whole thing.
And just try to get into their offices to speak to someone!!! I tried once in order to deliver papers I had picked up from the local court - they wouldn't even let me in the building or send someone to the door to take receipt of the papers!! (Richmond upon thames offices, fairly well hidden but I used to walk past them daily on the way to work)
Paper print out for voter's records, paper print out on a roll visible behind safety glass screen that the voter can verify which is archived for verification - its not difficult - shop tills (checkouts) have been doing the same thing for years.
Working in a fairly large software company (the technology will probably give it away but I still dont plan to name names) our department had our own private kitchen and espresso machine (because the site canteen was heavily over priced)
We had an honour system for payment - an old desktop PC with a card reader. You swiped your ID badge through a card reader. All this did was extract the card ID string and send it through a shell script to a mysql database which then deducted from your balance the cost of a coffee - hand cash to the secretaries to top up the balance (I'll admit on average most people were in negative balance though every now and then the worst offenders had their balance details mailed to the whole department to shame them into paying up)
The actual purpose of the card reader PC? It was the DHCP server for the (still in use at the time - 2002) token ring network.
yes I know - I could easily cork screw out through the https proxy - but it would still be logged and the only way out is via the proxy with per user login - its a bank so fairly well locked down.
They are pretty flexible and dont have much blocked - the only site I've tried to get to but couldn't is you tube so it doesn't really bother me.
Not enough to go to the effort of installing a proxy on my home machine (I use it for webmail on https anyway which is allowed, deliberatly by passing the proxy is a sackable offense though - not worth the hassel for a couple of youtube vids)
Actually moral principals guide most people - however they are frequently not the moral principals the the law attempts to represent.
If you accept someones basics premises and moral code you will find that they generally follow that course and act rationally within its bounds.
This may not be what you consider moral however
(I know of people that think that preventing you from downloading something is a sin, that all media content should be free and that people that don't seed until atleast a ratio of 2 should be taken out and shot - and within those rules they behave morally themselves)
They are looking at improving download time for that user and the overall swarm by the use of their algorithm.
The idea being that you share all the upload space you have - but you do it in such a way as to maximise what you can download in the same amount of time.
This in turn means that when you have finished downloading the file the number of copies within the swarm will have increased - also those that shared with you more will have been able to download quicker themselves.
A client like this will penalise selfish or greedy uploaders far more than the normal client as it rewards those that give back.
Give a leach a block and he will have downloaded that block, teach a leach to seed and he shall have blocks for the rest of his life.
There is a wonderful pub in north london (and I apologise that I cannot rememebr its name right now) that our company used to go to on the morning of major launches for a company breakfast.
Liver, bacon, sausages, black pudding, fried bread, mushrooms, tomatoes, fried eggs, beans, toast and most importantly a pint of Guinness - That keeps you going til lunch time!!!
Would anyone with mod points please mod parent as troll, offtopic or if generous perhaps funny.
As the other replies have pointed out he is spouting nonsense (voyager may leave our solar system 2009, but its a a few tens or thousands of years away from any other and I think its pretty unlikely its vector will take it to Alpha Centauri - I'll be honest I haven't checked)
I'll admit its plausable sounding nonsense, but as barnum said....
.. that pluto isn't a planet any more???
I certainly hope so, otherwise it could get really embarrassed when it tries to ask for directions!!
No, it isn't.
The FSF would rather you use glibc than you didn't. They are happy for you to dynamically link against it. They would rather people standardise on free software than there be lots of proprietry libraries, none of them tested as well as glibc for example.
They get very unhappy if you statically link however!!
In general if you link or use LGPL software in such a way that you could remove the LGPL item and replace it with something else not of that license (that may or may not exist, you just have to show in theory it could be created) then the FSF is quite clear that it is not a derivative work.
It gets a bit more complicated with the GPL, I think you can only get away with using that in system calls, not dynamically linking - hence the LGPL for libraries! Remember if you break the terms of the license, then you are not entitled to use the code in the first place, you either have the choice to play nice by their terms, or not use their code. They are not stopping you using your own.
You know its a discussion on american military when most of the more sensible and well thought out posts are modded as troll or flamebait....
Just an adendum to your points... its not just modified GPL code that you need to release. Its also the code of derivative works.
Its defining derivative (which differs between the LGPL and the GPL and also how you link to libraries) which is the other mine field.
In general if you dynamically link LGPL libraries or system call to binaries of either type you are safe from having to release your own code as GPL/LGPL
One of the other compliance issues that is uner the GPL that is trrival to meet but many companies fail to do so is that when you do use GPL code in such a way that you dont have to release your own code, you still have to aknowlege the use of such GPL code and either provide a copy of the source code in machine readable form or provide instructions to where it can be found (a few links to sourceforge is usually sufficient) since this is trivial to do it understanably annoys FOSS advocates when companies fail to do so.
My point was is that you could reimplement the torrent transport layer under http and it willeasily go through a proxy.
The transport protocol doesn't really matter to the application - as long as it can send and recieve data.
Until now its been convinient to have all protocols different and on different ports, if ISPs choose to make it inconvinient then someone will just add a patch to torrent apps to let them talk in http and work over https
"Have you ever kissed a girl?"
then people will just do torrent over https, or ssh tunnelling over https, or ppp over https (and yes it can actually be done, corkscrew is the best example for ssh over https via a https proxy) I've played at ppp over https myself - a few hundred lines of code will get it working - true my version had tonnes of overhead so wasn't very efficient, but it proved the point well enough.
If torrent gets blocked at the protocol layer, it will just start working on top of a different protocol - there are plenty avilable!!
CPUs are the same, ditto for memory
The chips are tested until they meet their quota for speed X, to qualify the chip must score speed X or higher, once they hit quota they stop testing for speed X and move to testing for speed Y, the next speed down, then they lock the chip down to that speed using multipliers (in the caseof CPUs) so you have a random chance of having a chip that either just scraped through test for speed Y or one that might have exceed speed X - its why over clocking works on some chips better than others - good OC chips are simply better chips labled (and probably locked down) as slower ones
Almost forgot to add the classic explanation to why women can't park cars:
Its because men keep telling them that this *holds finger and thumb 2 inches appart* is 6 inches!
Actually there is found to be a hormonal difference. Not in the adult, but in the womb during gestation.
The spacial acuity centers of the brain are formed by the pressence of high levels of testosterone in the womb. A study found this is pressent in about 99% of male gestations and about 10% of female gestations.
A long term study (conducted over 30 years) checked the progress of women that were meassured to have this high level of testosterone. They were found to have spatial acuity similar or better to most males (this isn't sexism, this is science, generally males have better spatial acuity - this is the reason why) and had a far higher chance of working in engineering or science.
This paper was published in the mid 90's. I'm afraid I cannot remember the name of the paper itself, all I do remember is that it was published in a journal under the joke title "Why women can't park cars"
I've used the new push together plastic plumbing myself to fit a shower - its extremely easy and down right fool proof. As long as these ducts were smooth and gently curved at corvers pushing this piping down it should not be an issue - ditto for electricals (and cat5)
The sensible designer would also future proof their house by having redundant ducting installed at build time for any future need.
Limited user accounts are very usable!!
I force myself to use them and my wife who uses the same machine
A few ACL changes make the games perfectly usuable install all games in c:\games and have that directory full control to all users
This means the total impact of a foolish action by a user can wipe out their account and all the games on the system. Much better than an admin account being compromised (ok ignoring priviledge ecalation attacks)
I recently had to remove a trojan from my wifes account - a fairly trival procedure given how limited her access to the system as a whole was. Reading up on the particular trojan I found that had it been able to get admin access it would have been much harder to remove.
Ok I'll concded on XP home without ACL controls its bloody hard to accomplish this. But if you have XP pro you really have no excuse.
(and to explain no I'm not a windows fan - I loathe the system especially as I frequently have to admin them in my work. I much prefer linux and am quite familiar with winex which I have work with extensively and created start up scripts for several games that would not work trvially out of the box. however I also know just how much of a pain it is to do this so stick to dual booting. not liking the OS is no excuse not to secure it properly)
... why the much vaunted US anti missile defense system didn't respond to this?
Or since the radiological alarm not go off it was deemed not worth shooting at?
I prefer to use spam assassin and use a couple of RBLs with various weightings on each.
/dev/null)
I keep the weightings quite low since I find most of the RBLs too agressive - added to the bayes and other checks however it is quite good at pushing spam into the right destination (and for the very spammy thats
True this means I actually have to receive and process the mail rather than just arbitarily ignoring connections, but my mail server doesn't really get that much traffic as its only personal use.
The problem is your analogy is not exactly correct (which is the usual problem with analogies.
The difference between full disclosure and just informing the companies would be a lot closer to just telling the goverment and the WHO about bird flu cases but not telling any of the general public.
Still that oversimplification falls wide of the mark.
Its a generalisation but probably true that if you need to make an analogy of something in order to understand it (or explain it to a 3rd party) then you (or that 3rd party) should not be commenting on that topic (the old maxim "if you don't have anything useful to say then keep your mouth shut"). Guess that explains the proble with politians...
I think poor is a gross over statement of their service level.
That their phone number is a closely gaurded secret gives you an inkling to their thoughts on the whole thing.
And just try to get into their offices to speak to someone!!! I tried once in order to deliver papers I had picked up from the local court - they wouldn't even let me in the building or send someone to the door to take receipt of the papers!! (Richmond upon thames offices, fairly well hidden but I used to walk past them daily on the way to work)
Paper print out for voter's records, paper print out on a roll visible behind safety glass screen that the voter can verify which is archived for verification - its not difficult - shop tills (checkouts) have been doing the same thing for years.
Working in a fairly large software company (the technology will probably give it away but I still dont plan to name names) our department had our own private kitchen and espresso machine (because the site canteen was heavily over priced)
We had an honour system for payment - an old desktop PC with a card reader. You swiped your ID badge through a card reader. All this did was extract the card ID string and send it through a shell script to a mysql database which then deducted from your balance the cost of a coffee - hand cash to the secretaries to top up the balance (I'll admit on average most people were in negative balance though every now and then the worst offenders had their balance details mailed to the whole department to shame them into paying up)
The actual purpose of the card reader PC? It was the DHCP server for the (still in use at the time - 2002) token ring network.
yes I know - I could easily cork screw out through the https proxy - but it would still be logged and the only way out is via the proxy with per user login - its a bank so fairly well locked down.
They are pretty flexible and dont have much blocked - the only site I've tried to get to but couldn't is you tube so it doesn't really bother me.
Not enough to go to the effort of installing a proxy on my home machine (I use it for webmail on https anyway which is allowed, deliberatly by passing the proxy is a sackable offense though - not worth the hassel for a couple of youtube vids)
Actually moral principals guide most people - however they are frequently not the moral principals the the law attempts to represent.
If you accept someones basics premises and moral code you will find that they generally follow that course and act rationally within its bounds.
This may not be what you consider moral however
(I know of people that think that preventing you from downloading something is a sin, that all media content should be free and that people that don't seed until atleast a ratio of 2 should be taken out and shot - and within those rules they behave morally themselves)
Queue dancing WoW characters
(search youtube for WoW and "the internet is for porn" if you missed the reference - sorry I can't post the link but the corp firewall blocks youtube)
Actually this client would likely be favoured by the private tracker sites.
The private tracker already gives you plenty of incentive to make sure your ratio is >1 - even asside from basic morals.
The design of this client means those with higher speed uploads available will complete sooner, and thus you will end up with more high speed seeders.
Seeders who since they are members of private trackers are probably going to stick around until ratio >1
True I admit on piblic trackers something like this may not be as helpful or beneficial, but you can't have everything.
Did you actually read the paper?
They are looking at improving download time for that user and the overall swarm by the use of their algorithm.
The idea being that you share all the upload space you have - but you do it in such a way as to maximise what you can download in the same amount of time.
This in turn means that when you have finished downloading the file the number of copies within the swarm will have increased - also those that shared with you more will have been able to download quicker themselves.
A client like this will penalise selfish or greedy uploaders far more than the normal client as it rewards those that give back.
Give a leach a block and he will have downloaded that block, teach a leach to seed and he shall have blocks for the rest of his life.