Since when did the whitehouse have anything to do with the legislative process other than the power to veto? The legislative powers involved in creating and passing laws was dealt to the Senate and Congress, not the Fuhr last time I checked.
With the whitehouse (executive branch) announcing this has been done is pure obfuscation. Its taking credit for actions done by another branch of government. Thats like claiming the executive branch is solely responsible for all economics. Oh wait! It already does even though the executive branch's only economic power is to request funds from Congress. Oh well...
Sonny boy, FreeBSD included support for these new fangled zero copy sockets a while back. They're also in their NFS implementation. Linux has had them since late August/early September thanks to TUX in some Linux-2.4.0-pre-test-ac145-mdk3 kernel. Don't confuse them with turbo packet support now. But of course, the reality is that some other OSes have had zero-copy for quite a long time (Solaris, IRIX, Windows2000!). Although the 9000 byte MTU jumbo gigabit frames are used rather than the nice 1500 MTU ones...
Its also funny to see you use techno-babble you don't understand in regards to hardware checksumming. But I digress...
The fact is that Linux and BSD each help make the other better, with friendly competition among the actual developers and a free flow of information between them. With rare exceptions, the attitude between workers in the two camps is one of mutual respect and even occasionally admiration. The BSD vs. Linux lamers simply don't understand
The problem is they never pre-order enough cd's to go around. Its been this way since the 2.4 release. It will arrive immediately if you pre-order it though. It shows you just how the demand for the cd's has grown exponentially.
Okay, I'll grant you, I live in Northern Virginia, and this is a pretty backwards conservative (by which I mean anti-free-speech) state, and in general, this decision does not bode well for us freedom loving hippies (by which I mean "anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size").
Oh boy. I don't know where to begin. First off, you confuse conservative values with the silence of free speech. My God you gobble up the FUD on CNN/NBC. For a good idea of true Conservative values, check out The Constitution Party. Now if you weren't a thoughtless drone, you'd be able to see that many ideologies co-incident with liberal non-criminal thoughts (Nader) as compared to the criminals (CommieCrats/Republicans). Our country was founded on Conservative, Christian values all of those are hardly "anti-free-speech".
Case in point: when I was in middle school, my drama teacher brought in "Terminator 2" because he felt that despite its R-rating, it was useful for teaching us 8th-graders what we needed to be taught. That's "against the rules"... nevertheless, he won a national teaching award a few years ago.
Child, movies like T2 have no place in a middle school even if it is for a "party" day. Think of it from a more mature, responsible view as a parent; as a tax paying adult, its a waste of time where even a small amount of learning could be occuring rather than watching some pickling piece of production piss.
The way I see it, China'd be better off to just let its citizens see everything. They'll enjoy their little "pr0n" sites at home, read the news once in a while, and be content with their lives as always.
You severely misunderstand their motives. It isn't meant to stop people from looking at pr0n but rather to control freedom of information (ideologies). The government is eliminating the ability to view news media which criticizes it's actions/policies.
The summary: People hate being held back, so let them see what they want and a week later they won't care anymore.
They don't like being held back if they don't understand anything else. Go read Brave New World by Aldous Huxley for a good understanding.
this is great. I've been using 2.4-test8 for a while now and have been loving it.
Come again? The late 2.3 and early 2.4-tests have been a pain in the ass. You must've been oblivious to the entire ext2fs corruption and GINORMOUS memory leaks. Even with SMP, they were unsuitable for production useage.
I just want someone to do a wc for expletives to see how many more references of "fuck me gently with a chainsaw" are present.
Just because it's running GNOME doesn't necessarily mean its underlying OS must be Linux. It could just as easily be Solaris, NetBSD, OpenBSD, BSD/OS, FreeBSD, HP-UX, or any other platform which GNOME runs on. Claiming it is Linux just by GNOME is highly erroneous.
Heh, I know how you feel about the homework and the test bit. I didn't do any homework for almost two years but getting an A on an AP test was easy.
It reminds me of Brave New World where all the intellectuals were sent off to Iceland because the drones of society couldn't understand anything that wasn't subjective. People like us are merely forsaken. Hate to break it to you.
As a dropout who was in the gifted program, I feel cheated yet again by the schools. There are so many programs out there to help a seventeen year old with the mind of a nine year old but none that promote the opposite. We're expected to succeed simply because our IQ's were scored over 130 (and some of us 150+). I found myself bored to tears after funding for the gifted program was dropped and the best the schools offered was "Honors" classes where we still used colored pencils in our sophomore year.
No I'm not bashing this idea. It may be a God-send for some of the slower kids but there has to be a program for the extreme opposite.
As a recent HS graduate, I too had similar experiences with a clueless faculty. The low quality of computer classes in all high schools is evident so is the quality of "computer" teachers. A simple keyboarding class would be renamed "Business Systems and Technology". The amount of superfluous superlatives amazes me. Hey! Let's give a small class a big name so we feel like our meaningless lives are making a difference! Anyways, onto my point....
All the computers were Win9x with a bit of Fortres to keep out the clueless. My desk was directly in front of the "teacher". I would just shell a telnet.exe session from Word Basic. From there I could easily just telnet to the county's gateway. Eventually one of the assistant principals called me up to her office, she tried to suspend for just connecting to the county's gateway. I didn't even login once. They're running telnetd on HP-UX 10.20, no firewall and expect no one to even telnet onto them? What a bunch of drones.
The Fortres matter was even more pathetic. I just popped in a PicoBSD disk, skipped kernel configuration "ee/etc/fstab ; mount/dev/wd0s1 ; cd/dos ; ee config.sys ; ee autoexec.bat". Then removed the hash in front of the/dev/wd0s1 for the fstab entry. Next, REM the fortres lines in autoexec.bat and config.sys, save and finally reboot. One time the bitch saw this so I gave her the disk, she asked what was on it so I told her but. Obviously she didn't understand. So she put the disk in then tried to open it. Still she couldn't figure out what was on it so she gave it back.
Senior year was even worse. The highest level class offered was Web Design. The teacher had a bowl haircut. I thought the only adults that had haircuts like that were either Jim Carey or Down Syndrome patients. Her webpage she encouraged the class to visit for ideas was a blatant ripoff from Developer Networks Y2K Info. And even then her page layout shifts entirely from one page to the next.
When she couldn't help a student with a problem I would go over to offer my help. The problems usually stemmed from incorrect font terminations, etc. Over time, the other kids would call me over first, she hated this. So one day she went to the administrators telling them I was "sabotaging" the computers. After I refuted her claim she then tacked on that I was showing others how to do it as well. The mindless administrators refused to hear any witnesses from the class. That was at the end of the first semester thankfully. I was amused to hear that half the class dropped after I told them what she said.
I know we're not gonna have classes on compression algorthms or anything intresting but having coherent, mature teachers should be a minimum. It bothers me that I gotta pay taxes for this kinda stuff.
Linux *does* have securelevels and immutable etc flags in ext2fs. It *can* use BSD-style init (I think slackware still does that actually).
You seem to be forgetting that Linux is just a kernel. The distributions are mostly independent of this. Kernel/Userland aren't exactly tightly unified in Linux. Thus, it's not Linux that can use BSD style init, rather the distro. Yes Slackware does it and iirc so does Stampede but they're transitioning over to SVR4ish.
It *can* be configured to provide a serial console.
Your point being? Just about anything can be? If your ass had a chip I bet I could make a console out of a colestomy bag.
Reading/proc may be a bit more work for the programmer but is IMHO much safer than reading/dev/kmem.
Linux/proc is kinda silly to begin with. cpuinfo is one example./proc safety? There's an advisory every other week on BUGTRAQ for/proc. Being able to make a couple syscalls is A LOT faster than having to drag all that nappy VFS code into things.
The author is basically biased and/or he doesn't know what he's talking about.
The author did make some valid points, he wasn't trying to speak over the head of 90% of the readers out there. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean its false.
Much more valid points would be (for example) the SCSI subsystem, NFS, the ports system, or USB support.
Hell, Linux just got NFSv3 and it's v2 implementation is kinda shitty. Just go look back at the inominate benchmarking from a few months ago. Linux only now has experimental USB, other's have had it working for years! Linux RAID? Linux should worry about good SCSI first.
I hate to admit it but Linux does edge out FreeBSD in supported hardware. It'll support the $5 tape drive you got at a college auction. Why should someone spend time developing a driver for a tape drive deemed worthy to hold $5 worth of information?
But I will agree with you on superior BSD support for SCSI, USB, etc. Linux RAID? Linux should worry about good SCSI first.
The postings are horribly innacurate. The threads go on too long. Postings filled with "Everyone else knows it so it must be true" fallacies. It touches off a flame worse than BSD/Linux debate.
Hemos/CmdrTaco:
Please cease and desist. You're wasting bandwidth which could feed starving children overseas in....uhm...Indiana.
Dumbass. The north had slaves too. They took all the southern slaves during the War of Northern Aggression and used them as...well...slaves. They justified this as they were "contraband." He doesn't have to be a Republican to realize that the yankees were wrong during that war.
Btw, it's not "african american" you whiny thoughtless drone.
You sir, are a fuck-twit. Al Gump is just being allowed to further to the politicize the matter. Yeah, like having him on the Today Show is a really good idea. No bias there at all. The absentee ballots are fine. All it is is the hired larynxes to find a way to steal the election. Poor republican handling of ballots? Why don't we look at reports of democrats giving free ballots in Wisconsin, handing out cigarettes to the bums in Michigan, and then the felons allowed to vote in FL not to mention the mob swing of Chicago. Yet you'll say "I don't believe that."
Its funny how they stopped counting in Miami-Dade right when they got into the Cuban districts which naturally favor Bush.
Cripes, even after the fact, though... if someone had the authority and both sides could agree to it
You seem to believe in despotism. No one person should have that kind of power. We'd be way better off as a nation if Al Gump wouldn't tie it up in the courts with the 44 cases (at one point this was the max). Bush has won Constitutionally.
Note: The point below is to note that MacOSX is not a new flavour of unix, it's a new major version increment of NeXTSTEP. Note the internal version number consistancy. On MacOSX Server,
`uname -s` == "Rhapsody", `uname -r` == "5.7".
MacOSX = Rhapsody 5.7+
Rhapsody = OPENSTEP for Mach (product code name change as of Apple buyout)
OPENSTEP for Mach = NeXTSTEP (product name change as of Sun-NeXT co-released OpenStep spec.)
therefore (transitive property)
MacOSX = NeXTSTEP
The series, each of which is comprised of some version of Mach, BSD, Display Postscript, and Objective-C Frameworks:
MacOSX Server 1.x (Rhapsody 5.7) same as the above, but stabler.
MacOSX 1.x (Rhapsody 5.x [where x    -BSD4.4-lite
   -Mach 3 + fidly bits
   -DisplayPDF (Quartz)
   -Obj-C + enhanced OpenStep frameworks (Now called Cocoa) + EOF
BSD bits were taken from NetBSD and FreeBSD, with (I thought) some userland from OpenBSD.
EOF = Enterprise Object Framework - an Object-to-Relational Database adapter layer (very very good.)
HA! Judges are just the biggest schiksters of them all! You sir, are a fuck-twit. Oh and I'm not a republican, I'm an independant you 15 year old pimple faced troll. You didn't vote so suck on that.
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With the whitehouse (executive branch) announcing this has been done is pure obfuscation. Its taking credit for actions done by another branch of government. Thats like claiming the executive branch is solely responsible for all economics. Oh wait! It already does even though the executive branch's only economic power is to request funds from Congress. Oh well...
Its also funny to see you use techno-babble you don't understand in regards to hardware checksumming. But I digress...
The fact is that Linux and BSD each help make the other better, with friendly competition among the actual developers and a free flow of information between them. With rare exceptions, the attitude between workers in the two camps is one of mutual respect and even occasionally admiration. The BSD vs. Linux lamers simply don't understand
The problem is they never pre-order enough cd's to go around. Its been this way since the 2.4 release. It will arrive immediately if you pre-order it though. It shows you just how the demand for the cd's has grown exponentially.
Oh boy. I don't know where to begin. First off, you confuse conservative values with the silence of free speech. My God you gobble up the FUD on CNN/NBC. For a good idea of true Conservative values, check out The Constitution Party. Now if you weren't a thoughtless drone, you'd be able to see that many ideologies co-incident with liberal non-criminal thoughts (Nader) as compared to the criminals (CommieCrats/Republicans). Our country was founded on Conservative, Christian values all of those are hardly "anti-free-speech".
Case in point: when I was in middle school, my drama teacher brought in "Terminator 2" because he felt that despite its R-rating, it was useful for teaching us 8th-graders what we needed to be taught. That's "against the rules"... nevertheless, he won a national teaching award a few years ago.
Child, movies like T2 have no place in a middle school even if it is for a "party" day. Think of it from a more mature, responsible view as a parent; as a tax paying adult, its a waste of time where even a small amount of learning could be occuring rather than watching some pickling piece of production piss.
You severely misunderstand their motives. It isn't meant to stop people from looking at pr0n but rather to control freedom of information (ideologies). The government is eliminating the ability to view news media which criticizes it's actions/policies.
The summary: People hate being held back, so let them see what they want and a week later they won't care anymore.
They don't like being held back if they don't understand anything else. Go read Brave New World by Aldous Huxley for a good understanding.
You're right that Linux does have a clear lead over FreeBSD in SMP for now (until 5.0 is released) but how is it better for multi-NIC machines?
If crypto is your fetish then check out International Kernel or go install *BSD with the crypto libraries.
Come again? The late 2.3 and early 2.4-tests have been a pain in the ass. You must've been oblivious to the entire ext2fs corruption and GINORMOUS memory leaks. Even with SMP, they were unsuitable for production useage.
I just want someone to do a wc for expletives to see how many more references of "fuck me gently with a chainsaw" are present.
Just because it's running GNOME doesn't necessarily mean its underlying OS must be Linux. It could just as easily be Solaris, NetBSD, OpenBSD, BSD/OS, FreeBSD, HP-UX, or any other platform which GNOME runs on. Claiming it is Linux just by GNOME is highly erroneous.
It reminds me of Brave New World where all the intellectuals were sent off to Iceland because the drones of society couldn't understand anything that wasn't subjective. People like us are merely forsaken. Hate to break it to you.
No I'm not bashing this idea. It may be a God-send for some of the slower kids but there has to be a program for the extreme opposite.
All the computers were Win9x with a bit of Fortres to keep out the clueless. My desk was directly in front of the "teacher". I would just shell a telnet.exe session from Word Basic. From there I could easily just telnet to the county's gateway. Eventually one of the assistant principals called me up to her office, she tried to suspend for just connecting to the county's gateway. I didn't even login once. They're running telnetd on HP-UX 10.20, no firewall and expect no one to even telnet onto them? What a bunch of drones.
The Fortres matter was even more pathetic. I just popped in a PicoBSD disk, skipped kernel configuration "ee /etc/fstab ; mount /dev/wd0s1 ; cd /dos ; ee config.sys ; ee autoexec.bat". Then removed the hash in front of the /dev/wd0s1 for the fstab entry. Next, REM the fortres lines in autoexec.bat and config.sys, save and finally reboot. One time the bitch saw this so I gave her the disk, she asked what was on it so I told her but. Obviously she didn't understand. So she put the disk in then tried to open it. Still she couldn't figure out what was on it so she gave it back.
Senior year was even worse. The highest level class offered was Web Design. The teacher had a bowl haircut. I thought the only adults that had haircuts like that were either Jim Carey or Down Syndrome patients. Her webpage she encouraged the class to visit for ideas was a blatant ripoff from Developer Networks Y2K Info. And even then her page layout shifts entirely from one page to the next.
When she couldn't help a student with a problem I would go over to offer my help. The problems usually stemmed from incorrect font terminations, etc. Over time, the other kids would call me over first, she hated this. So one day she went to the administrators telling them I was "sabotaging" the computers. After I refuted her claim she then tacked on that I was showing others how to do it as well. The mindless administrators refused to hear any witnesses from the class. That was at the end of the first semester thankfully. I was amused to hear that half the class dropped after I told them what she said.
I know we're not gonna have classes on compression algorthms or anything intresting but having coherent, mature teachers should be a minimum. It bothers me that I gotta pay taxes for this kinda stuff.
You seem to be forgetting that Linux is just a kernel. The distributions are mostly independent of this. Kernel/Userland aren't exactly tightly unified in Linux. Thus, it's not Linux that can use BSD style init, rather the distro. Yes Slackware does it and iirc so does Stampede but they're transitioning over to SVR4ish.
It *can* be configured to provide a serial console.
Your point being? Just about anything can be? If your ass had a chip I bet I could make a console out of a colestomy bag.
Reading /proc may be a bit more work for the programmer but is IMHO much safer than reading /dev/kmem.
Linux /proc is kinda silly to begin with. cpuinfo is one example. /proc safety? There's an advisory every other week on BUGTRAQ for /proc. Being able to make a couple syscalls is A LOT faster than having to drag all that nappy VFS code into things.
The author is basically biased and/or he doesn't know what he's talking about.
The author did make some valid points, he wasn't trying to speak over the head of 90% of the readers out there. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean its false.
Much more valid points would be (for example) the SCSI subsystem, NFS, the ports system, or USB support.
Hell, Linux just got NFSv3 and it's v2 implementation is kinda shitty. Just go look back at the inominate benchmarking from a few months ago. Linux only now has experimental USB, other's have had it working for years! Linux RAID? Linux should worry about good SCSI first.
But I will agree with you on superior BSD support for SCSI, USB, etc. Linux RAID? Linux should worry about good SCSI first.
ebay
When 75% of the world's population doesn't know where its next meal is coming from, Linux/Internet is the least of their concerns.
christ, its like talking to pod people.
Hemos/CmdrTaco:
Please cease and desist. You're wasting bandwidth which could feed starving children overseas in....uhm...Indiana.
Btw, it's not "african american" you whiny thoughtless drone.
Its funny how they stopped counting in Miami-Dade right when they got into the Cuban districts which naturally favor Bush.
You seem to believe in despotism. No one person should have that kind of power. We'd be way better off as a nation if Al Gump wouldn't tie it up in the courts with the 44 cases (at one point this was the max). Bush has won Constitutionally.
If you were offered an OC connection for FREE would you take it? I'd assume yes.
Strippers. Lots and lots of strippers.
MacOSX = Rhapsody 5.7+ Rhapsody = OPENSTEP for Mach (product code name change as of Apple buyout) OPENSTEP for Mach = NeXTSTEP (product name change as of Sun-NeXT co-released OpenStep spec.)
therefore (transitive property)
MacOSX = NeXTSTEP
The series, each of which is comprised of some version of Mach, BSD, Display Postscript, and Objective-C Frameworks:
NeXTSTEP 1.x
-BSD4.4-lite
-Mach 2.5
-DPS
-Objective-C + Appkit Framework
NeXTSTEP 2.x
-BSD4.4-lite
-Mach 2.5 + extensions
-DPS
-Objective-C + Appkit Framework
NeXTSTEP 3.0..3.3
-BSD4.4-lite
-Mach 2.5 + more extensions
-DPS
-Obj-C + Appkit + Foundation Kit (early kit)
OPENSTEP 4.0..4.2
-BSD4.4-lite
-Mach 2.5 + more extensions
-DPS
-Obj-C + New OpenStep frameworks + EOF
Rhapsody 5.x (Early Apple prototype)
-BSD4.4-lite
-Mach 2.5 + blah blah
-DPS
-Obj-C + OpenStep core frameworks (Codenamed Yellowbox) + extensions + EOF
MacOSX Server 1.x (Rhapsody 5.7) same as the above, but stabler.
MacOSX 1.x (Rhapsody 5.x [where x    -BSD4.4-lite
   -Mach 3 + fidly bits
   -DisplayPDF (Quartz)
   -Obj-C + enhanced OpenStep frameworks (Now called Cocoa) + EOF
BSD bits were taken from NetBSD and FreeBSD, with (I thought) some userland from OpenBSD.
EOF = Enterprise Object Framework - an Object-to-Relational Database adapter layer (very very good.)
HA! Judges are just the biggest schiksters of them all! You sir, are a fuck-twit. Oh and I'm not a republican, I'm an independant you 15 year old pimple faced troll. You didn't vote so suck on that.