All it takes is a few police reports, and then I imagine the National Hi-Tech Crime Unit http://www.nhtcu.org/ may become involved, however from their website it appears all they do is link to other sites.:(
That's the other troubling side to this. The source code release is worth a fair amount to people. If people were reverse engineering windows (ignoring the legality of that) then would the EU be looking to say 'Bob spent X time unravelling this module/exe/protocol. He earns ___ per hour. That means MS owe him _____"
Or is it the case like I pointed out, that the EU government will benefit (and sink the money into a variety of useful [city of culture awards, EU Commission grants for regeneration] and not so useful projects [curvature of bananas, enforcing the metric system against the will of customers and shopkeepers] money pits) and the EU citizen will see the proverbial bugger all?
my assets don't span multiple countries. What sort of jurisdiction would the EU have in the US or otherwards? Fair enough, MS will have enough assets in the EU for a fair few days of seizures, but my point is: once they've been dealt with to the greatest extent of the EU's powers WITHIN THE EU - can the EU start talking to the US FTC or similar to start that way.
(I know, this is going offtopic, but at the same time I'm really quite interested. It's not often you get to see a juggernaught of a company and a multinational government duke it out)
no - you misunderstood. my objection is to the EU administration, not the positive way that they're approaching taking money off a company that has broken the law.
...I bet the actual citizens of the EU won't see a 0.01 of any actual money the EU fines. It would be lost in administration and red tape and a lot of the BS that the EU is famed for. Rather than giving back to the people that Microsoft wronged.
Also interestingly: What happens if MS refuse to pay? I can't imagine there being much chance of them refusing, but would the EU have powers to strongarm MS's bank to pay up on behalf of Microsoft?
I think the best way to compare it to is sperm donors: some men will happily meet up with the children they fathered, despite the fact all they did was donate some swimmers. Other men will not have anything to do with it, as if they aren't responsible for the life they created.
Despite that being an apples and oranges comparison - some people (like myself) are skittish at the idea of the government holding information about them as a person that they have no real right to hold while the individual remains upstanding and law abiding. It could just be paranoia, but I have civil servant friends, and I know damn well what they get up to when passing the time, and I don't feel comfortable with my details being at the mercy at some bored individual.
because they're pushing it for the wrong reasons. saying it'll prevent terrorism and immigration.
At best it'll cut crime because they'll have everyone's fingerprint on file, however, that's dubious, and leads to the question whether you're happy that certain features that uniquely identify you are stored in a computer and accessible to government and certain private interests? I don't like the idea of being fingerprinted just because I'm a citizen of the country (and I actually did participate in the biometric ID card trial 2/3 years ago when I was in my final year at university, and have the card to prove it)
worryingly, it'll also be available to what the ITN news just said was 10000 private interests. I assume these would be things like credit card companies, banks etc.
Because of course, no-one's ever been silly enough not to trust a credit card company when it asks for ID, like those 70 odd emails I get a day from banks I'm not involved with, asking for me to log into a webpage to update my details... *sigh*
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seconded. I'm hoping to double my donation to them if I get any form of raise or christmas bonus. The cause means a lot to me, even though people might say that it's no cure for ____. I just think helping kids is something that adults don't prioritise much any more, especially in my city.:|
...after seeing all the fan communities' efforts, really disappointed with the actual real thing?
I'm a huge nintendo fanboy, but the design of that thing just turns me off. Here's hoping 3rd party publishers don't share my view and that of my employer, either.
for all the people who are complaining about a $30 dvd, please remember:
in Japan you're lucky to get 2 episodes on a DVD for less than $30. True, there's a lot of free stuff (pita ten's brilliant models, unpublished illustrations etc) but that's an hour's content. The only company that's ever really tried that is ADV with the Gantz release. They aren't going to do that again as it makes no improvement or detriment to sales.
Voice acting costs. By the time a show is dubbed, you've spent major money, never mind marketing, manufacturing, authoring etc. Fan subbers are fast and free because they use video editing software (and I'd suspect 75%+ of that software is pirate) and their own time. Fan dubs rarely happen as there is no point really. The glory is in the first release of an episode, not saying: hey look, me and my buddies gave $character a voice.
While you may wait 6 months for a DVD, us brits usually wait another 6 months on top (for classification, format changing and region code change) and end up paying £16-20 ($25-$32) for the priveledge of no free promo stuff, no nice boxes, just a long wait.
as I said though: what can you actually do with it _apart from share files between neighbours/towns?_
P2P's great and all, but if it's all HK traffic people can get bored of it. Plus if the connection to the outside world from HK can't sustain a multitude of gigabyte per second connections, anything incoming will seem plenty slower unless they also put caching infrastructure in to support it.
what can you actually do with it apart from share files between neighbours/towns? I can't imagine most normal websites being able to keep up with a 1Gbps connection, and surely the PC rendering webpages/other content becomes the bottleneck?
I do suppose the question really is: what's the speed of the backbone between Hong Kong and the rest of the world, and what's the contention going to be like once people start taking this up?
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being based very close to Newcastle, that's possibly the funniest geordie joke i've heard in a long time.
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;)
If only I had mod points...
Maybe they could get Ant and Dec to promote it in the UK... Hopefully not though
but hurrah! Everyone can then sue under the data protection act and further sink this country into a cesspit!
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All it takes is a few police reports, and then I imagine the National Hi-Tech Crime Unit http://www.nhtcu.org/ may become involved, however from their website it appears all they do is link to other sites. :(
That's the other troubling side to this.
The source code release is worth a fair amount to people. If people were reverse engineering windows (ignoring the legality of that) then would the EU be looking to say 'Bob spent X time unravelling this module/exe/protocol. He earns ___ per hour. That means MS owe him _____"
Or is it the case like I pointed out, that the EU government will benefit (and sink the money into a variety of useful [city of culture awards, EU Commission grants for regeneration] and not so useful projects [curvature of bananas, enforcing the metric system against the will of customers and shopkeepers] money pits) and the EU citizen will see the proverbial bugger all?
my assets don't span multiple countries. What sort of jurisdiction would the EU have in the US or otherwards?
Fair enough, MS will have enough assets in the EU for a fair few days of seizures, but my point is: once they've been dealt with to the greatest extent of the EU's powers WITHIN THE EU - can the EU start talking to the US FTC or similar to start that way.
(I know, this is going offtopic, but at the same time I'm really quite interested. It's not often you get to see a juggernaught of a company and a multinational government duke it out)
no - you misunderstood. my objection is to the EU administration, not the positive way that they're approaching taking money off a company that has broken the law.
...I bet the actual citizens of the EU won't see a 0.01 of any actual money the EU fines. It would be lost in administration and red tape and a lot of the BS that the EU is famed for. Rather than giving back to the people that Microsoft wronged.
Also interestingly: What happens if MS refuse to pay? I can't imagine there being much chance of them refusing, but would the EU have powers to strongarm MS's bank to pay up on behalf of Microsoft?
not mine, culled from (iirc) MacRumours but too good not to repost. If it's yours, it's an honour to repost this
Roses are red
Aqua is blue
Don't pirate OSX
Cause Apple like to sue
It's because people value privacy.
I think the best way to compare it to is sperm donors: some men will happily meet up with the children they fathered, despite the fact all they did was donate some swimmers. Other men will not have anything to do with it, as if they aren't responsible for the life they created.
Despite that being an apples and oranges comparison - some people (like myself) are skittish at the idea of the government holding information about them as a person that they have no real right to hold while the individual remains upstanding and law abiding. It could just be paranoia, but I have civil servant friends, and I know damn well what they get up to when passing the time, and I don't feel comfortable with my details being at the mercy at some bored individual.
because they're pushing it for the wrong reasons. saying it'll prevent terrorism and immigration.
At best it'll cut crime because they'll have everyone's fingerprint on file, however, that's dubious, and leads to the question whether you're happy that certain features that uniquely identify you are stored in a computer and accessible to government and certain private interests? I don't like the idea of being fingerprinted just because I'm a citizen of the country (and I actually did participate in the biometric ID card trial 2/3 years ago when I was in my final year at university, and have the card to prove it)
You get an ID card when you renew your passport, as i understand it.
So then you get taken and fingerprinted, iris scanned and your facial metrics taken. Wonderful huh?
worryingly, it'll also be available to what the ITN news just said was 10000 private interests. I assume these would be things like credit card companies, banks etc.
Because of course, no-one's ever been silly enough not to trust a credit card company when it asks for ID, like those 70 odd emails I get a day from banks I'm not involved with, asking for me to log into a webpage to update my details...
*sigh*
seconded. :|
I'm hoping to double my donation to them if I get any form of raise or christmas bonus. The cause means a lot to me, even though people might say that it's no cure for ____. I just think helping kids is something that adults don't prioritise much any more, especially in my city.
I for one spit at and plot the downfall of our data collecting overlords.
Thankyou! As soon as I saw the article I thought 'Stranger in a Strange Land' had this covered...
;)
Glad I'm not the only one
...after seeing all the fan communities' efforts, really disappointed with the actual real thing?
I'm a huge nintendo fanboy, but the design of that thing just turns me off. Here's hoping 3rd party publishers don't share my view and that of my employer, either.
for all the people who are complaining about a $30 dvd, please remember:
in Japan you're lucky to get 2 episodes on a DVD for less than $30. True, there's a lot of free stuff (pita ten's brilliant models, unpublished illustrations etc) but that's an hour's content. The only company that's ever really tried that is ADV with the Gantz release. They aren't going to do that again as it makes no improvement or detriment to sales.
Voice acting costs. By the time a show is dubbed, you've spent major money, never mind marketing, manufacturing, authoring etc. Fan subbers are fast and free because they use video editing software (and I'd suspect 75%+ of that software is pirate) and their own time. Fan dubs rarely happen as there is no point really. The glory is in the first release of an episode, not saying: hey look, me and my buddies gave $character a voice.
While you may wait 6 months for a DVD, us brits usually wait another 6 months on top (for classification, format changing and region code change) and end up paying £16-20 ($25-$32) for the priveledge of no free promo stuff, no nice boxes, just a long wait.
So think yourself lucky, it could be much worse
Sounds like the potential for an MIT hack - we'll know when there's a campus cruiser made to look like a Delorean, and a plywood Blue Police Box...
Which was a creation of Victor Lewis Smith iirc
as I said though: what can you actually do with it _apart from share files between neighbours/towns?_ P2P's great and all, but if it's all HK traffic people can get bored of it. Plus if the connection to the outside world from HK can't sustain a multitude of gigabyte per second connections, anything incoming will seem plenty slower unless they also put caching infrastructure in to support it.
what can you actually do with it apart from share files between neighbours/towns? I can't imagine most normal websites being able to keep up with a 1Gbps connection, and surely the PC rendering webpages/other content becomes the bottleneck?
I do suppose the question really is: what's the speed of the backbone between Hong Kong and the rest of the world, and what's the contention going to be like once people start taking this up?
They're not Volkswagen adverts, they're BMW Mini adverts, thus the "It's a MINI adventure" ;-)
true
plus the t-shirt rocks ^^
unfortunately I suspect there are only about 3 slashdotters that would a) recognise that reference and b) mod you for it ^^;