Well it's not being able to see news articles in one place thats the big deal. If you are someone that has a regular group of web sites you check every day, say Slashdot, Register, MSDN blogs, your ex-girlfriend's blog etc... you don't have to manually visit every site to see if content has been updated and if it interests you. You just glance at some feeds real quick to see if interesting content has been updated.
HP isnt in the shitter because 15,000 employees decided to slack off - management FUCKED UP.
Do you consider perhaps that management fucked up by creating a bloated personnel heavy organization? Big companies grow out of control during good times by hiring tons and tons of people they may not really NEED. When times get tough expendible employees are just as fair game as other belt tightening measures IMO.
I think the only difference is that the ESRB ratings are just "guidelines" while technically I think movie theatres are supposed to enforce age restrictions, thus all the uproar about wanting video game stores to start carding.
You mean like all the negative headlines for Microsoft are misunderstood as flaws in the product? OpenSource software can have the exact same problems Microsoft can have. Yes, they can patch it quicker, but the problem with most large microsoft hacks is that they were not patched quickly (if ever) by users.
If anything users should be MORE aware of that. If aunt emm downloads Firefox and installs linux and thinks "its safe, never have to do another thing again!" she would be dead wrong and we would start seeing zombie linux boxen everywhere.
Wouldn't this just be done at video card or motherboard level or more likely software level? I'm assuming it will still have a standard output to any generic monitor, the average person wouldn't upgrade to a new monitor for a new OS.
Actually from the microsoft white paper: >PVP-UAB provides the last internal link in the Longhorn content protection chain, to ensure that the premium video content reliably makes it from the Longhorn Protected Environment to being rendered on the card without a copy of the content being stolen.
So it's not a monitor thing, and the article writer appears to be a dumbass.
While it is certainly a large amount of stuff to know, you can basically just play the memorization game. I've met so many people that used to be mechanics, car salesmen etc, that have MCSE's and are completely useless working with computers. Most signed up during the.com "Make $90k a year as a certified professional!" and had hardly used computers for more then email before. In my opinion these certifications are pretty useless. Just because I passed Calc 3 and Physics back in college by memorizing some rules doesn't mean I remember a damn thing about them now.
Well maybe that would be true if the food was delivered, but they have to go to the cafeteria to eat, which means they still can kill an hour eating...and based on this: http://www.google.com/jobs/culture.html it doesn't seem like anyone is really encouraging someone to be at their desk 8 hours a day.
Is anyone else as sick of hearing about this as I am? I feel like thats all they ever mention. Granted, its a cool perk, but I'm not going to work for $50k less just to get some free food. As a programmer who sits at a desk all day, free food = free diabetes at age 40.
Also the stock options arn't a great motivator anymore since the stock is basically priced for where Google will be in 3-5 years. To see the same return on your Google stock issued now compared to the stock of last year, Google would have to become the size of Microsoft in market cap.
Ok for their P/E to be 1.0 their stock price would have to NEVER change from where it is now, and they would have to start making Microsoft dollars
The current FORWARD P/E on Google is still 45. Personally I think earnings will be lower this quarter because of so many aquisitions, and multimillion dollar $0 options the senior execs have taken.
Ugh, can't wait for the next election where the "big thing" will obviously be morals, since they think thats what won the last election...THAT should be fun.
The Debate: Senator Clinton: "Well I go to church 5 times a week!" Mayor Guiliani: "Oh yeah well I go 6 times a week!"
Also you do not HAVE to kill anyone in GTA. You can simply drive around, and stop at all the stop lights. And it can work just as well as a boring real life simulator.
Wow so even when a democrat is going overboard with this kind of thing, you still find a way to blame republicans? This issue has been pretty bipartisan...I mainly remember Joe Leiberman (another democrat) leading the way on this the last time it was an issue. Let's keep the partisan "my team is better then yours" crap out of the discussion if it's not relevant.
parroting the same old, hackneyed misconceptions parroted by everyone else on/. who didn't get linux within the first week they tried it.
I'm not some random linux hater here, so it's not that I don't "get" linux...I've been using various Unixes since 95 (I used to be the biggest BSD fan...) my second portion kind of goes hand in hand with the other section... Yes there are more friendly distros then others, but my point is that how does mom or grandma find this one? If some of the other comp sci majors I work with have no idea what the difference is between one distro and the next, how will mom? First, any distro that isn't available in the store is out of the question...they are not gonna download iso's and burn them...they have no idea how big the/etc/ partition should be etc... So that's the first step for average people to really start using it is make a super friendly no nosense install that is sold in stores. I know there are a few out there... ok so once mom/grandma has this copy and assuming its been made easy to install (Read: gives them no hard options) does it come with Wine too? If grandma has wine, and she downloads GoogleEarth.exe will it run when she double clicks it? When she downloaded it, did the interface make the unix directory structure simplified so she didn't save it in/usr/bin? Will the Bicycle Card game she owns from 1995 run on it? Until the answers to these questions are yes, all i'm saying is that most Linux distributions are too complicated. When I start to see normal people even understanding that there isn't just one "Linux-brand Linux" that comes shrinkwrapped with a picture of Linus giving me a wink and a nod then I think it will be on the right track. Like others have said Linux is a great option if you want a free open source OS, but it's not quite simple enough to have clueless people switch just for the sake of switching.
I feel the same way...the way a lot of people on here blindly hate windows and love linux or mac...that's really not what it's all about. I could really care less what specific operating system I use as long as I can do what "everyone is talking about" without great hassle. So if everyone is using Google Earth and I can't because I chose Linux to be l33t, then it sucks. If everyone is playing WoW and I can't play it because I have Solaris, it sucks. If my job requires me to write ASP.NET code, its not very easy to bring a Mac in and work on it. People go where the applications are. Until Linux starts having a large amount of cool things that are completely unavailable on every other system, then normal people won't switch. Right now linux is still playing catch up, trying to emulate as many things as Windows does as possible. MacOS is a little more on the right track...they've had some things that made me want to switch back to Mac lately...but I honestly can't think of many reasons to fire up my linux box on a daily basis...its great as a server since MS server software is super expensive, but as a desktop it still can't replace the simple "everything just works" way Windows does.
Linux suffers from too much flexibility...too many options. If you are my aunt or grandma or mom are you going to know if Gentoo is better then Fedora? Are you going to know how to patch up to the latest kernal? What are all these crazy things talking about when I boot up? Son...why is my computer "Panic"ing? Why can't I run iTunes or any of the software I see at bestbuy?...etc... Its a great OS, but it really isn't anywhere near being ready for a layperson.
I can't wait for Google maps to recognize points I can clearly see on the map itself? And give directions at least as good as map programs from 6 years ago?
Me: "Find 'reagan national airport,washington, dc'" Google: "Here's everything else in a 10 mile radius of DC called something like that!!!" Me: "But but...i see it right there on the map, clearly labeled...wtf!!"
Me: "Hmm...i guess finding an airport might be hard, ok find 'solomons island, md'" Google: "Here's a bunch of doctors in oklahoma!!!!"
Me: "Find the shortest route from 'Baltimore, MD to New Orleans, LA'" Google: "Heres a 24 hour trip through crazy back woods areas of red states!!!!" Me: "WTF??? MapQuest found me an 18 hour route?!?!"
Me: "Ok, ok clearly i'm trying too much here, how bout you just find: 'canada'" Google: "We could not understand the location canada'"
Me: back to MSN MapPoints or Mapquest... Me: "ugh back to mappoint.msn.com or mapquest.com"
Looks like some EA employees won't be seeing sunlight for a few more weeks, time to start another "crunch time" and add in a few more fatigue induced bugs.
Google can get pretty slow sometimes... and Google Earth was slow as hell before they stopped allowing new downloads. Crappy is certainly a relative term...I think Google's interface is somewhat crappy (If i want to convert a currency, find a public domain book, or get movie times i have to type a certain keyword of search phrases to convert, instead of just clicking a button?? A lot of their cool search features are more like easter eggs then features....)
>>2. goes through some form of beta test before releasing their software (MS)
LOL! Google just sends their stuff right on out with the word "beta" on it....they almost do no beta testing before "releasing" a product. Microsoft meanwhile does so much beta testing its ridculous...Visual Studio 2005 has been in beta for like two years. And before i get the inevitible flood of "Gmail, froogle, etc are beta dood!!!!". A) MS doesnt have the luxury of being able to roll out fixes every day or hour like Google does, once the software ships, people are stuck with it for the most part, so they require much more testing. b) Gmail, froogle etc are released as far as i'm concerned because Google is selling its product to customers based on these services (ads in gmail, links on froogle)
>>3. never has increased prices to customers since their gain as the #1 search engine (AT&T)
Actually they have...the more people that want to advertise on google with my keyword, the more it will cost me. Google doesnt get cheaper as it gets more popular as with most products...it gets more expensive.
I realize that...I guess thats part of my point... Suppose we withdrew from all world politics, then Mexico offends Nigeria with more racist stamps or something...next think you know some Nigerian radical bombs El Paso, TX which has a mostly mexican population... even though tourists were the targets Indonesia itself still paid a large price for that.
I think if they at least acknowledged that it was a dupe for this purpose, but people see all these dupes and think "man, the guys running this really just dont give a fuck, let alone read their own site". I very casually read slashdot...check the RSS feed maybe twice a day, and I see tons of dupes...the editors work for slashdot FULLTIME...they only need to post one story every hour or so...they cant just do one quick search of their own site? And I know i've read about tech news that has not been mentioned here, so i know they arn't all over EVERY story.
Leaving them alone would not end attacks like this. Take the Bali bombings for example...Indonesia, Phillipines and Egypt have been attacked...what did they ever do to provoke the terrorists? Even if the Islamic world suddenly loved us Terrorism wouldn't end...either from domestic terrorists (IRA, Tim McVey, etc..). Or Greenpeace, or someone else. Its impossible to be involved in World Affairs without pissing someone off royally.
You forget that the same corrupt party controls two branches of government, and is gunning for the third
Well a) Most people with your attitude would argue that conservatives already control all three branches, so i'm not sure what you think will be changing here, O'Conner wasn't liberal.
b) Second GET OVER your "my team is better" thinking...democrats are just as "corrupt" as republicans... When democrats controlled all three branches say in the late 70s or late 60s were those really better times? Vietnam war and Iran hostage crisis / Energy crisis / Inflation anyone? Both parties make stupid laws and play partisan politics. If you look at the records most politicians have agreed with something at one time only to change their mind when it was politically more advantagous. Its not limited to one party, open your eyes.
Seriously? I remember both of these being really popular at the time, they may have had more hype before they came out then the current next gen systems. I mean this was really high tech at the time, interactive CD roms? Crazy! But maybe I lived in some alternate universe, because I happen to own a Panasonic 3DO (which was awesome), and used to own a Philips CDi (which was only awesome until dvds came out).
Slashdot Mirror
Well it's not being able to see news articles in one place thats the big deal. If you are someone that has a regular group of web sites you check every day, say Slashdot, Register, MSDN blogs, your ex-girlfriend's blog etc... you don't have to manually visit every site to see if content has been updated and if it interests you. You just glance at some feeds real quick to see if interesting content has been updated.
HP isnt in the shitter because 15,000 employees decided to slack off - management FUCKED UP.
Do you consider perhaps that management fucked up by creating a bloated personnel heavy organization? Big companies grow out of control during good times by hiring tons and tons of people they may not really NEED. When times get tough expendible employees are just as fair game as other belt tightening measures IMO.
I think the only difference is that the ESRB ratings are just "guidelines" while technically I think movie theatres are supposed to enforce age restrictions, thus all the uproar about wanting video game stores to start carding.
You mean like all the negative headlines for Microsoft are misunderstood as flaws in the product? OpenSource software can have the exact same problems Microsoft can have. Yes, they can patch it quicker, but the problem with most large microsoft hacks is that they were not patched quickly (if ever) by users.
If anything users should be MORE aware of that. If aunt emm downloads Firefox and installs linux and thinks "its safe, never have to do another thing again!" she would be dead wrong and we would start seeing zombie linux boxen everywhere.
Wouldn't this just be done at video card or motherboard level or more likely software level? I'm assuming it will still have a standard output to any generic monitor, the average person wouldn't upgrade to a new monitor for a new OS.
Actually from the microsoft white paper:
>PVP-UAB provides the last internal link in the Longhorn content protection chain, to ensure that the premium video content reliably makes it from the Longhorn Protected Environment to being rendered on the card without a copy of the content being stolen.
So it's not a monitor thing, and the article writer appears to be a dumbass.
While it is certainly a large amount of stuff to know, you can basically just play the memorization game. I've met so many people that used to be mechanics, car salesmen etc, that have MCSE's and are completely useless working with computers. Most signed up during the .com "Make $90k a year as a certified professional!" and had hardly used computers for more then email before. In my opinion these certifications are pretty useless. Just because I passed Calc 3 and Physics back in college by memorizing some rules doesn't mean I remember a damn thing about them now.
Well maybe that would be true if the food was delivered, but they have to go to the cafeteria to eat, which means they still can kill an hour eating...and based on this: http://www.google.com/jobs/culture.html it doesn't seem like anyone is really encouraging someone to be at their desk 8 hours a day.
Is anyone else as sick of hearing about this as I am? I feel like thats all they ever mention. Granted, its a cool perk, but I'm not going to work for $50k less just to get some free food. As a programmer who sits at a desk all day, free food = free diabetes at age 40.
Also the stock options arn't a great motivator anymore since the stock is basically priced for where Google will be in 3-5 years. To see the same return on your Google stock issued now compared to the stock of last year, Google would have to become the size of Microsoft in market cap.
Ok for their P/E to be 1.0 their stock price would have to NEVER change from where it is now, and they would have to start making Microsoft dollars
The current FORWARD P/E on Google is still 45. Personally I think earnings will be lower this quarter because of so many aquisitions, and multimillion dollar $0 options the senior execs have taken.
Ugh, can't wait for the next election where the "big thing" will obviously be morals, since they think thats what won the last election...THAT should be fun.
The Debate:
Senator Clinton: "Well I go to church 5 times a week!"
Mayor Guiliani: "Oh yeah well I go 6 times a week!"
Also you do not HAVE to kill anyone in GTA. You can simply drive around, and stop at all the stop lights. And it can work just as well as a boring real life simulator.
Wow so even when a democrat is going overboard with this kind of thing, you still find a way to blame republicans? This issue has been pretty bipartisan...I mainly remember Joe Leiberman (another democrat) leading the way on this the last time it was an issue. Let's keep the partisan "my team is better then yours" crap out of the discussion if it's not relevant.
parroting the same old, hackneyed misconceptions parroted by everyone else on /. who didn't get linux within the first week they tried it.
/etc/ partition should be etc... So that's the first step for average people to really start using it is make a super friendly no nosense install that is sold in stores. I know there are a few out there... ok so once mom/grandma has this copy and assuming its been made easy to install (Read: gives them no hard options) does it come with Wine too? If grandma has wine, and she downloads GoogleEarth.exe will it run when she double clicks it? When she downloaded it, did the interface make the unix directory structure simplified so she didn't save it in /usr/bin? Will the Bicycle Card game she owns from 1995 run on it? Until the answers to these questions are yes, all i'm saying is that most Linux distributions are too complicated. When I start to see normal people even understanding that there isn't just one "Linux-brand Linux" that comes shrinkwrapped with a picture of Linus giving me a wink and a nod then I think it will be on the right track. Like others have said Linux is a great option if you want a free open source OS, but it's not quite simple enough to have clueless people switch just for the sake of switching.
I'm not some random linux hater here, so it's not that I don't "get" linux...I've been using various Unixes since 95 (I used to be the biggest BSD fan...) my second portion kind of goes hand in hand with the other section... Yes there are more friendly distros then others, but my point is that how does mom or grandma find this one? If some of the other comp sci majors I work with have no idea what the difference is between one distro and the next, how will mom? First, any distro that isn't available in the store is out of the question...they are not gonna download iso's and burn them...they have no idea how big the
I feel the same way...the way a lot of people on here blindly hate windows and love linux or mac...that's really not what it's all about. I could really care less what specific operating system I use as long as I can do what "everyone is talking about" without great hassle. So if everyone is using Google Earth and I can't because I chose Linux to be l33t, then it sucks. If everyone is playing WoW and I can't play it because I have Solaris, it sucks. If my job requires me to write ASP.NET code, its not very easy to bring a Mac in and work on it. People go where the applications are. Until Linux starts having a large amount of cool things that are completely unavailable on every other system, then normal people won't switch. Right now linux is still playing catch up, trying to emulate as many things as Windows does as possible. MacOS is a little more on the right track...they've had some things that made me want to switch back to Mac lately...but I honestly can't think of many reasons to fire up my linux box on a daily basis...its great as a server since MS server software is super expensive, but as a desktop it still can't replace the simple "everything just works" way Windows does.
Linux suffers from too much flexibility...too many options. If you are my aunt or grandma or mom are you going to know if Gentoo is better then Fedora? Are you going to know how to patch up to the latest kernal? What are all these crazy things talking about when I boot up? Son...why is my computer "Panic"ing? Why can't I run iTunes or any of the software I see at bestbuy?...etc... Its a great OS, but it really isn't anywhere near being ready for a layperson.
I can't wait for Google maps to recognize points I can clearly see on the map itself? And give directions at least as good as map programs from 6 years ago?
Me: "Find 'reagan national airport,washington, dc'"
Google: "Here's everything else in a 10 mile radius of DC called something like that!!!"
Me: "But but...i see it right there on the map, clearly labeled...wtf!!"
Me: "Hmm...i guess finding an airport might be hard, ok find 'solomons island, md'"
Google: "Here's a bunch of doctors in oklahoma!!!!"
Me: "Find the shortest route from 'Baltimore, MD to New Orleans, LA'"
Google: "Heres a 24 hour trip through crazy back woods areas of red states!!!!"
Me: "WTF??? MapQuest found me an 18 hour route?!?!"
Me: "Ok, ok clearly i'm trying too much here, how bout you just find: 'canada'"
Google: "We could not understand the location canada'"
Me: back to MSN MapPoints or Mapquest...
Me: "ugh back to mappoint.msn.com or mapquest.com"
Looks like some EA employees won't be seeing sunlight for a few more weeks, time to start another "crunch time" and add in a few more fatigue induced bugs.
>>1. does not have slow crappy service (AOL)
Google can get pretty slow sometimes... and Google Earth was slow as hell before they stopped allowing new downloads. Crappy is certainly a relative term...I think Google's interface is somewhat crappy (If i want to convert a currency, find a public domain book, or get movie times i have to type a certain keyword of search phrases to convert, instead of just clicking a button?? A lot of their cool search features are more like easter eggs then features....)
>>2. goes through some form of beta test before releasing their software (MS)
LOL! Google just sends their stuff right on out with the word "beta" on it....they almost do no beta testing before "releasing" a product. Microsoft meanwhile does so much beta testing its ridculous...Visual Studio 2005 has been in beta for like two years. And before i get the inevitible flood of "Gmail, froogle, etc are beta dood!!!!". A) MS doesnt have the luxury of being able to roll out fixes every day or hour like Google does, once the software ships, people are stuck with it for the most part, so they require much more testing. b) Gmail, froogle etc are released as far as i'm concerned because Google is selling its product to customers based on these services (ads in gmail, links on froogle)
>>3. never has increased prices to customers since their gain as the #1 search engine (AT&T)
Actually they have...the more people that want to advertise on google with my keyword, the more it will cost me. Google doesnt get cheaper as it gets more popular as with most products...it gets more expensive.
I thought Google made a pledge to make Search their primary function? WTF does broadband over powerlines have to do with search?
I realize that...I guess thats part of my point... Suppose we withdrew from all world politics, then Mexico offends Nigeria with more racist stamps or something...next think you know some Nigerian radical bombs El Paso, TX which has a mostly mexican population... even though tourists were the targets Indonesia itself still paid a large price for that.
I think if they at least acknowledged that it was a dupe for this purpose, but people see all these dupes and think "man, the guys running this really just dont give a fuck, let alone read their own site". I very casually read slashdot...check the RSS feed maybe twice a day, and I see tons of dupes...the editors work for slashdot FULLTIME...they only need to post one story every hour or so...they cant just do one quick search of their own site? And I know i've read about tech news that has not been mentioned here, so i know they arn't all over EVERY story.
Leaving them alone would not end attacks like this. Take the Bali bombings for example...Indonesia, Phillipines and Egypt have been attacked...what did they ever do to provoke the terrorists? Even if the Islamic world suddenly loved us Terrorism wouldn't end...either from domestic terrorists (IRA, Tim McVey, etc..). Or Greenpeace, or someone else. Its impossible to be involved in World Affairs without pissing someone off royally.
Well that Googlebar probably doesn't track your web surfing habits like the Google brand one.
You forget that the same corrupt party controls two branches of government, and is gunning for the third
Well a) Most people with your attitude would argue that conservatives already control all three branches, so i'm not sure what you think will be changing here, O'Conner wasn't liberal.
b) Second GET OVER your "my team is better" thinking...democrats are just as "corrupt" as republicans... When democrats controlled all three branches say in the late 70s or late 60s were those really better times? Vietnam war and Iran hostage crisis / Energy crisis / Inflation anyone? Both parties make stupid laws and play partisan politics. If you look at the records most politicians have agreed with something at one time only to change their mind when it was politically more advantagous. Its not limited to one party, open your eyes.
Seriously? I remember both of these being really popular at the time, they may have had more hype before they came out then the current next gen systems. I mean this was really high tech at the time, interactive CD roms? Crazy! But maybe I lived in some alternate universe, because I happen to own a Panasonic 3DO (which was awesome), and used to own a Philips CDi (which was only awesome until dvds came out).
I mean when CDI and 3DO did this, it completely elminated the standalone console....oh wait.