Waving your arms around like in Minority Report simply isn't as efficient as moving a mouse
er, then use the mouse. You can use it to move windows! Which you can't do on a phone/tablet, partly because of screen size, and partly because with finger-dragging, it would suck. Therefore, it's not a tablet UI. I think the source of confusion is people saw some big icons and went "WHAAAA!!, where's the 1990s taskbar gone?!!!!" and couldn't be arsed to try hitting the windows key. oh look, there's my "window list". wasn't hard.
The problem with that naming convention is you get very similar named servers,
Plus, you have to remember where it is to find it, which sucks if you have more than one location. Why is it in SJN? What overall function does all servers in SJN have in common?
Assuming the function is "production1" or just "prd1"
FIDBSW0001.prd1.blah.blah
That's a start - now put prd1.blah.blah into the searchpath in every server in that location, so once you're on the bastion for that location, you only need the first bit.
How about some hypens? Now you can write code to separate the parts and do a bit of automation (eg. if you're using something like puppet/chef/cfengine):
fi-db-sw-0-001
Next. device type AND physical device? I should only have to know one of them. Since multiple devices can do the same job, I'll stick with the number:
fi-db-0-001
Not sure we need a logical identifier here.
fi-db-001.prd1.blah.blah, or just fi-db-001 if I'm logged into the prd1 bastion. There. fixed it for you
I joined a company with over 500 servers and a really incoherent naming scheme - or lack of. I could talk for hours on how you built a name out of a class hiearachy which also matched its class in puppet, but the dual naming them was a win. Basically it works like this:
When servers are racked up, they're just numbered, with a TLA for the location they're in based on nearest airport code.
lax-001 lax-002 lax-003
That name is PERMANENT unless it gets shipped to a new location. It also gets assigned an IP right away. But so far a bit meaningless. then it gets assigned a function
1. When a guy in the datacentre asks you for label names to rack them up, you just say "just number them 45-67", and they get on with it before you've even assigned them.
2. No re-labelling
3. You can look up the "meaningless" name just using DNS
4. You have a numbered inventory
5. With a bit of work, you can pre-assign IP addresses to servers before they've even turned up and get the network guys to tag them straight in to the switch on arrival
I will let you have the last response since ignorant people always feel the need to prove ignorance further...
|t's rather simple really. Safari can access most of the internet. Konqueror can't. What does safari have that's missing? Well the answer was in the early days. They made google maps work. Not in Konqueror, but in safari. This change never made it to KHTML. Then the KHTML guys had a bloody serious complaint. They weren't getting bug reports on their own code - apple considered them copyright! They still don't have them. KDE had to move shop. No longer are they in control of their own opensource web system - they use webkit and hope that apple will release something which will work for the entire web. Of course, since apple likes being a monopoly and hasn't been through an antitrust case, the may continue, but rhere are a lot of people who aren't ignorant, would like to program computers, and think apple is "worse than microsoft". got a problem with that? fuck off. YOU are ignorant. bye!
PR. Basically. the "worse than microsoft" tag isn't going anywhere in my eyes. Apple have behaved like cunts. Now they're the world's most expensive corporation and they just recently got patents on "multitouch". I could plug two mice into my old Amiga. We faught microsoft. Now we fight apple.
There used to be a project like that. It was called "Ubuntu". Originally, Ubuntu was pretty much Debian with a 6-month release cycle.
This is why I'm a massive fan of ubuntu server. It's got just the right sweet spot between stability and functionality, as opposed to redhat where I ended up compiling and packaging PHP 5.3 to deploy to about 200 machines, let alone the fact that when a machine forkbombed, you couldn't ssh to it because the scheduler improvements in 2.6.22 weren't in the 2.6.18 that redhat 5 made is put up with for umpteen years. Redhat 6 was like going from 2002 to 2009 in one go.. in 2011.
Window buttons on the left! "Unity" on the desktop!
As someone who dodged unity, and actually switched from KDE to gnome 3 as one of the few people on earth who like it, I was talking to a guy in the office who really likes unity, and having watched him use it, I'm half tempted to give it another try, apart from the whole "unity/gnome 3" fork thing. And bringing windows up*.
Anyway, i did ask about the buttons on the left thing, so he demonstrated. When you maximise a window, the menu becomes part of the top bar, and the close buttons also. On the right, they would get in the way of the "me menu" and all that stuff. There was nowhere else to put it. I guess it's just different, not "wrong". And as a left handed person who HATES playstation games which don't let you swap the sticks, I can sort of see that there isn't a "right" in that.
*Open 2 terminals. Then open something full screen like firefox. Then try to bring ONE of the windows to the front. The only way to do it is via the "alt-`" shortcut. You can't do it with the mouse - it brings up both. I'm a sysadmin, I have terminals EVERYWHERE. If they all came to the front it would be like an explosion.
Have you tried getting entertainment in the sticks?
actually, after watching 28 days later, I doubt that the zombies enjoyed having to start in the grim estates of north east London.* That just made the whole apocalypse scenario even more depressing.
I'm not a huge fan of unity, but I can cope with it. Gnome 3 on the other hand - I switched from KDE to use it. I wouldn't use it on a tablet though. It wouldn't work on a tablet, contrary to the regular sideswipe from people who tried it for about ten minutes expecting it to follow the windows 95 task-bar style approach that everything else uses.
I wish they would do something somewhere between "stable" and "testing". I eventually switched to ubuntu server because it seemed to find the right balance between rock solid and providing reasonably up to date stuff. They need "tested everywhere except some weird guy who can't DHCP" or something.
How many tablet interfaces do you know that allow you to move windows around, have drop down menus from the top bar, or open chat sessions in the notification bar? It wouldn't work on a tablet in its current form and isn't a tablet interface.
1) The taskbar. It's a throwback to windows 95 and didn't work very well then. Once you have too many windows open it gets too cramped, and they move around, so you can't get used to it. The "winkey-type about 3 letters" has the advantage that a) I don't have to reach for the mouse, b) it's way quicker to bring up the window you want, c) doesn't use real estate, d) takes advantage of the whole screen to show you big enough icons for what you're looking for, rather than "xter..*snip*"
2) Desktop icons: You have to move the windows out of the way to use them. I use any screen space I have spare for windows, so what's the point? I always get rid of them anyway. The "desktop" metaphor got taken too literally. Unless you want to do it PROPERLY in a throwback to RISCOS. no thanks.
3) Multiple desktops. In the old days you set up a fixed number (usually 4 by default), then came up with a system for yourself. Mail and browser on desktop 1, bunch of terminals on 2. Alas, I'm replying to an email and need to pop up a terminal to get some information about it. Now I've just dirtied my "mail" desktop with terminals. 3 hours later I've got crap all over the place and need to tidy up. Gnome just keeps adding spare desktops whenever you use the last one up. The result of this is I now use about 10 desktops at once, and happily flick between them with keyboard shortcuts. Much as I don't really go in much for desktop animations, the quick switch animation is quite pleasing
4) Which brings me to over the top 3D stuff. They use your 3D hardware to offload work from the CPU (who doesn't have at least intel GMA these days), and use it minimally where it's actually worth scaling/sliding etc. As opposed to wobbly windows
5) The empathy chat stuff which allows you to respond to a message without firing up a full chat window is simply great. In fact most of the notifications are .
6) The dual monitor support is excellent, although was a bit odd at first. It only switches desktop on the main monitor. After a while I found this VERY useful. Keep something on screen by shifting it to the other screen whilst switching between other desktops. Eg. HOWTO docs on the right, lots of windows on several desktops on the left.
7) Much improved terminal emulator
8) I use the "drag to left to maximise to left side of screen" function all the time now. Hardly a gnome innovation, but it does help you keep things nice and tidy.
Basically, they got rid of a whole lot of clutter that I didn't need from my desktop so I can just get on with coding and reply to the odd email occasionally before switching back to the coding.
X was broken in the first place. There's been talk about coming up with something more streamlined and less... well, have you ever tried programming in raw X11? *shudders*
I switched to zsh years ago, but everyone else said it was a tablet OS.*
*On a more serious note, I still don't know why more bash users haven't discovered zsh. It's designed with interactivity as its focus rather than getting dogged down in scripting correctness (although does have a very compatible ksh mode). We were getting date globbing and programmable tab completion when bash was still struggling with floating point numbers:-)
And now I work for a company where builds are all automated. I stuck zsh into the default package list 6 months ago and have now changed my shell in ldap to zsh, and don't have to worry about not being able to log in because it isn't there. FINALLY I get my whizz-bang tell-me-everything right-hand-prompts alerts-n-stuff shell on the whole network!
There, fixed it for ya. If you don't understand that part in bolded caps, you are not in a position to tell people how to fix things and how to do their work.
No, I just do it and inform the boss via a sticky note at 6pm on a friday:P Well duh.
That is how you can tell a good IT person from a great IT person. The one who is truly brilliant will sit down and learn his way around everything, he might hate it but he will learn every last wire or line of code before making any improvements of his own.
Unless you've already got the experience and can spot a bad legacy system a mile off. If you want someone who just keeps the same junk plodding on, wasting people's time and doing things badly, then you want a junior. Get some balls, say "this is wrong", provide a better alternative and fix it. And if the company won't let me, then I won't put up with their junk. Byebye.
They don't need to come collecting. Just dump bonds onto the open market. The US did that to Britain during the Suez crisis. It crushes the economy without a single shot being fired. China could seriously punish America financially right now if it wanted to.
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er, then use the mouse. You can use it to move windows! Which you can't do on a phone/tablet, partly because of screen size, and partly because with finger-dragging, it would suck. Therefore, it's not a tablet UI. I think the source of confusion is people saw some big icons and went "WHAAAA!!, where's the 1990s taskbar gone?!!!!" and couldn't be arsed to try hitting the windows key. oh look, there's my "window list". wasn't hard.
Unfortunately, ex-lax isn't a product here in the UK, so we called ex-servers "anusol".
Plus, you have to remember where it is to find it, which sucks if you have more than one location. Why is it in SJN? What overall function does all servers in SJN have in common?
Assuming the function is "production1" or just "prd1"
FIDBSW0001.prd1.blah.blah
That's a start - now put prd1.blah.blah into the searchpath in every server in that location, so once you're on the bastion for that location, you only need the first bit.
How about some hypens? Now you can write code to separate the parts and do a bit of automation (eg. if you're using something like puppet/chef/cfengine):
fi-db-sw-0-001
Next. device type AND physical device? I should only have to know one of them. Since multiple devices can do the same job, I'll stick with the number:
fi-db-0-001
Not sure we need a logical identifier here.
fi-db-001.prd1.blah.blah, or just fi-db-001 if I'm logged into the prd1 bastion. There. fixed it for you
I joined a company with over 500 servers and a really incoherent naming scheme - or lack of. I could talk for hours on how you built a name out of a class hiearachy which also matched its class in puppet, but the dual naming them was a win. Basically it works like this:
When servers are racked up, they're just numbered, with a TLA for the location they're in based on nearest airport code.
lax-001
lax-002
lax-003
That name is PERMANENT unless it gets shipped to a new location. It also gets assigned an IP right away. But so far a bit meaningless. then it gets assigned a function
foo-web-01 CNAME lax-002
mail-02 CNAME lax-003
bar-db-06 CNAME lax-004
This has a couple of huge advantages, namely:
1. When a guy in the datacentre asks you for label names to rack them up, you just say "just number them 45-67", and they get on with it before you've even assigned them.
2. No re-labelling
3. You can look up the "meaningless" name just using DNS
4. You have a numbered inventory
5. With a bit of work, you can pre-assign IP addresses to servers before they've even turned up and get the network guys to tag them straight in to the switch on arrival
Bill O'Reilly wants his status back...
|t's rather simple really. Safari can access most of the internet. Konqueror can't. What does safari have that's missing? Well the answer was in the early days. They made google maps work. Not in Konqueror, but in safari. This change never made it to KHTML. Then the KHTML guys had a bloody serious complaint. They weren't getting bug reports on their own code - apple considered them copyright! They still don't have them. KDE had to move shop. No longer are they in control of their own opensource web system - they use webkit and hope that apple will release something which will work for the entire web. Of course, since apple likes being a monopoly and hasn't been through an antitrust case, the may continue, but rhere are a lot of people who aren't ignorant, would like to program computers, and think apple is "worse than microsoft". got a problem with that? fuck off. YOU are ignorant. bye!
PR. Basically. the "worse than microsoft" tag isn't going anywhere in my eyes. Apple have behaved like cunts. Now they're the world's most expensive corporation and they just recently got patents on "multitouch". I could plug two mice into my old Amiga. We faught microsoft. Now we fight apple.
except Darwin and KHTML^H^H^H^H^H^Hsafari
This is why I'm a massive fan of ubuntu server. It's got just the right sweet spot between stability and functionality, as opposed to redhat where I ended up compiling and packaging PHP 5.3 to deploy to about 200 machines, let alone the fact that when a machine forkbombed, you couldn't ssh to it because the scheduler improvements in 2.6.22 weren't in the 2.6.18 that redhat 5 made is put up with for umpteen years. Redhat 6 was like going from 2002 to 2009 in one go.. in 2011.
As someone who dodged unity, and actually switched from KDE to gnome 3 as one of the few people on earth who like it, I was talking to a guy in the office who really likes unity, and having watched him use it, I'm half tempted to give it another try, apart from the whole "unity/gnome 3" fork thing. And bringing windows up*.
Anyway, i did ask about the buttons on the left thing, so he demonstrated. When you maximise a window, the menu becomes part of the top bar, and the close buttons also. On the right, they would get in the way of the "me menu" and all that stuff. There was nowhere else to put it. I guess it's just different, not "wrong". And as a left handed person who HATES playstation games which don't let you swap the sticks, I can sort of see that there isn't a "right" in that.
*Open 2 terminals. Then open something full screen like firefox. Then try to bring ONE of the windows to the front. The only way to do it is via the "alt-`" shortcut. You can't do it with the mouse - it brings up both. I'm a sysadmin, I have terminals EVERYWHERE. If they all came to the front it would be like an explosion.
actually, after watching 28 days later, I doubt that the zombies enjoyed having to start in the grim estates of north east London.* That just made the whole apocalypse scenario even more depressing.
* Is it me, or are all the urban levels in half life 2 set in a Birmingham industrial estate?
It's uncanny..
I'm not a huge fan of unity, but I can cope with it. Gnome 3 on the other hand - I switched from KDE to use it. I wouldn't use it on a tablet though. It wouldn't work on a tablet, contrary to the regular sideswipe from people who tried it for about ten minutes expecting it to follow the windows 95 task-bar style approach that everything else uses.
because the aliens always attack new york first!
well, she is 93..
I wish they would do something somewhere between "stable" and "testing". I eventually switched to ubuntu server because it seemed to find the right balance between rock solid and providing reasonably up to date stuff. They need "tested everywhere except some weird guy who can't DHCP" or something.
Well they got the windows 95-style taskbar out of the way. Good riddance.
Why is the 1000th iteration of this same complaint still being marked as "insightful"? Surely, by definition, it's "redundant" by now.
Well, they were going to call it "prodigious penis", but grandma objected
How many tablet interfaces do you know that allow you to move windows around, have drop down menus from the top bar, or open chat sessions in the notification bar? It wouldn't work on a tablet in its current form and isn't a tablet interface.
I can list a couple actually.
1) The taskbar. It's a throwback to windows 95 and didn't work very well then. Once you have too many windows open it gets too cramped, and they move around, so you can't get used to it. The "winkey-type about 3 letters" has the advantage that a) I don't have to reach for the mouse, b) it's way quicker to bring up the window you want, c) doesn't use real estate, d) takes advantage of the whole screen to show you big enough icons for what you're looking for, rather than "xter..*snip*"
2) Desktop icons: You have to move the windows out of the way to use them. I use any screen space I have spare for windows, so what's the point? I always get rid of them anyway. The "desktop" metaphor got taken too literally. Unless you want to do it PROPERLY in a throwback to RISCOS. no thanks.
3) Multiple desktops. In the old days you set up a fixed number (usually 4 by default), then came up with a system for yourself. Mail and browser on desktop 1, bunch of terminals on 2. Alas, I'm replying to an email and need to pop up a terminal to get some information about it. Now I've just dirtied my "mail" desktop with terminals. 3 hours later I've got crap all over the place and need to tidy up. Gnome just keeps adding spare desktops whenever you use the last one up. The result of this is I now use about 10 desktops at once, and happily flick between them with keyboard shortcuts. Much as I don't really go in much for desktop animations, the quick switch animation is quite pleasing
4) Which brings me to over the top 3D stuff. They use your 3D hardware to offload work from the CPU (who doesn't have at least intel GMA these days), and use it minimally where it's actually worth scaling/sliding etc. As opposed to wobbly windows
5) The empathy chat stuff which allows you to respond to a message without firing up a full chat window is simply great. In fact most of the notifications are
.
6) The dual monitor support is excellent, although was a bit odd at first. It only switches desktop on the main monitor. After a while I found this VERY useful. Keep something on screen by shifting it to the other screen whilst switching between other desktops. Eg. HOWTO docs on the right, lots of windows on several desktops on the left.
7) Much improved terminal emulator
8) I use the "drag to left to maximise to left side of screen" function all the time now. Hardly a gnome innovation, but it does help you keep things nice and tidy.
Basically, they got rid of a whole lot of clutter that I didn't need from my desktop so I can just get on with coding and reply to the odd email occasionally before switching back to the coding.
X was broken in the first place. There's been talk about coming up with something more streamlined and less... well, have you ever tried programming in raw X11? *shudders*
I switched to zsh years ago, but everyone else said it was a tablet OS.*
*On a more serious note, I still don't know why more bash users haven't discovered zsh. It's designed with interactivity as its focus rather than getting dogged down in scripting correctness (although does have a very compatible ksh mode). We were getting date globbing and programmable tab completion when bash was still struggling with floating point numbers :-)
And now I work for a company where builds are all automated. I stuck zsh into the default package list 6 months ago and have now changed my shell in ldap to zsh, and don't have to worry about not being able to log in because it isn't there. FINALLY I get my whizz-bang tell-me-everything right-hand-prompts alerts-n-stuff shell on the whole network!
No, I just do it and inform the boss via a sticky note at 6pm on a friday :P Well duh.
I was referring to ability, not age or time in service. Please don't ever become a manager.
Unless you've already got the experience and can spot a bad legacy system a mile off. If you want someone who just keeps the same junk plodding on, wasting people's time and doing things badly, then you want a junior. Get some balls, say "this is wrong", provide a better alternative and fix it. And if the company won't let me, then I won't put up with their junk. Byebye.
They don't need to come collecting. Just dump bonds onto the open market. The US did that to Britain during the Suez crisis. It crushes the economy without a single shot being fired. China could seriously punish America financially right now if it wanted to.