Um, Win2k may run with 128MB of memory, but it doesn't run very smoothly.
Depends on what you are doing. I have a Windows 2000 Server running on a P166 overclocked to 200MHz with no level 2 cache and just 104 MB of memory. Yeah, I turned a lot of stuff off but not as much as you think. With no one logged in on the console and one Terminal Services users (i.e. remote admin) it uses about 90MB of memory. For the curious I use it as a file and print server.
And as for the swap file thing, that's ridiculous. I don't think he should have been expected to know that Windows breaks horribly when swap space drops to or below 2MB. I remember doing the same thing with NT 4.0 and wondering why the system broke (couldn't start up most services), despite having tons of RAM as long as it didn't have any swap.
On Linux, I can run swapon and swapoff. I don't think it's particularly obvious or intuitive that NT just breaks when you cut the swap file size.
If you delete all your swap in W2K and reboot I think it will automatically create a 2MB(?) swap file and let you know it is doing it (might need "Send Administrative Alerts" enabled but it should be logged to the system event log regardless). Not sure why it needs a pagefile but maybe it has something to do with capturing a crash dump.
Really, this sounds more like a case of Windows making it too easy for underqualified administrators to do things.
Most Unixes have case-sensitive filenames, for instance, but Windows
Actually, the NTFS filesystem is case-sensitive. I think it has to be for POSIX compliance though I am not sure that is the reason support for it was built-in. But you are correct -- Windows encapsulates that into the perception of case-insensitivity.
My Dad is a retired teacher. Back when I was growing up I remember him grading papers late into the evening while watching baseball and other sports, Westerns, etc. on TV.
I would seriously think about going into teaching at a College or University but the reality is you do research first and foremost and teach as an afterthought. Many people have said I would make a good teacher, but the research has been too much of a turn-off for me to want to go into it.
Maybe I should look into teaching certification training classes instead. Oh, wait. The, uhh, quality [cough,cough] students I'd get in the MCSE classes would drive me insane.
We are talking about changing the back end, not necessarily the client side. The only people that need retraining would be the IT folk, not every Pilot, Mechanic, or Clerk.
But what is the point of running Exchange without using the Outlook client??? You cannot always sperate the backend from the client!
Because that would be Compeltely Retarded(TM) and go against the whole damn idea of having things installed as components.
That's a pretty simplistic notion. SUN has this concept of meta-packages, where a package can be a superset of packages. Anyone who has installed Solaris has run into this (where you are asked what you want to install and given options such as Everything Plus OEM). Couldn't something similar be done with RPM?
For example, divide the compnent RPM's into 3 or 4 major categories and then create an RPM for each one whose sole purpose was to install several RPMs (based said categories). Then one big tarball could be created, giving those who want to be picky their flexibility while still making it easy for those who want to install all or almost all of it.
If you're on a budget then Windows 2000 Terminal Services (which uses the RDP protocol) will look much more attractive to you. Citrix just adds a lot of functionality to Terminal Services, such as the program neighborhood and the much, much thinner ICA protocol (TS uses RDP, based on Netmeeting's RTP but much more streamlined).
Either way if you go with W2K you will soon discover that it is a maintenance nightmare compared to *NIX (basically, multi-user support was kludged onto the NT kernel, as opposed to being designed to be there in the first place).
If you do not have to use Windows then you could consider Sun Rays.
If you have a small number of people who would need Windows access then you could setup a Citrix MetaFrame server and have those users run the Solaris ICA client.
We have two Sun Ray servers here with about 60-70 Sun Rays between the two right now. We're also running a Citrix MetaFrame for UNIX server (for the curious on Slashdot, for after hours dial-up support). The only real problem we have is with graphics intensive applications. Lots and lots of display deltas do not mix with any thin client technology.
I do not think it is meant to be an evaluation version (or just that), but rather a way for more exposure -- get more people using Maya in a non-commercial environment so that they are more likely to recommend Maya to others (friends, the company they work for, etc.) or even buy Maya themselves.
It also hurts the competition -- are you as likely to buy Carrara, Cinema 4D, or Bryce now that you can get Maya Personal Edition for free? What about using/trying/buying Autodesk or Lightwave?
It's like Solaris x86 -- a great way to get Solaris experience on a tight budget.
For RTS fun on a LAN this one is hard to beat. You can get a good mix of longer running normal games to much shorter defend the wonder and king of the hill games. And if you have an odd number of people you can help offset that by having two people controlling the same civ -- ypically one focuses on resources and the other player focus on military and exploration (or they trip all over each other and die a quick death;-).
You'd want all three products
: Network Shell, Configure, and Audit.
Have not used them but this is one of the products we are considering purchasing here at work. I like that it is easy to use native package formats (at least on UNIX). Many other distribution platforms require the software to be repacked rather than use e.g. RPM for Linux and pkgadd for Solaris. But Bladelogic seems to be based much more around using the native package formats, which is great if you download a lot of packages off the 'net (e.g. from sunfreeware like we do here).
A powerbase that gained power suspiciously if not downright illiginately. If Bush really had won the election, then why did the New York Times decide to *not* publish its poll findings? Becasue Gore actually won.
What are you talking about? The NYTimes has been consistently hostile to George W. Bush (at least up to 9-11)! Every time I had Hardball with Chris Matthews on he would be talking about this obvious bias. The reason they did not publish the results is because they hoped it would show that Gore won but did not. You got it backwards.
You have the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. You do NOT have the right to be employed by any particular employer. Indeed, if you did, that would necessarily be a heavy restriction of that employer's right to have anybody working for him he wants, or to not have them. Your rights aren't any more important than his.
Yet we are more likely to need to work for someone else today then we were in the past. There is no longer a frontier to move to and rarely can you own a plot of land today and actually live off of it -- the property tax alone is likely to force you to hold a job with someone else. Even if you could live off of your land you are likely to become more and more diconnected with the rest of our society, much more so than in the past (e.g. Davey Crockett was elected to the House or Senate -- is that going to happen today?
We need to recognize that the rules have changed, which in turn means we need to be much more vigilant about worker's rights.
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In theory any e-mail client that supports SPA could be used. Right now that would be MSN Explorer, Outlook Express, and Outlook.
Meanwhile, I send all my IM's in high-contrast colors and sans-serif fonts.
Not to nitpick but did you know that serif fonts are usually easier to read than sans-serif ones (i.e. cause less eye strain)? Okay, okay -- I am nitpicking!:-)
Microsoft Train Simulator might be a good choice. It is more challenging than it may seem. For passenger trains you have deadlines to meet (get to this station at time X) and they up the ante by putting track under maintenance (have to go slower) or rerouting because of problems forcing you to try and make up lost time.
For freight some of the harder scenarios have you maunally building the consist yourself -- imagine having to foigure out which tracks you need to be on to get each car added to the train in the correct order so that they can be dropped off in the correct order. It's like a puzzle game.
In all scenarios the user is rated for minor screwups, where you were speeding, and whether you jarred the cargo/passengers too much.
As I recall Solaris has a nice GUI tool to add remote printers to a machine. However, root access is required to use it. Is that bad?
Admintool. All it does is make the server a print server. If I have a user in building X and another in building Y it does not help them out beyond providing a list of possible printers to use. Which does not help if the application does not provide a list to choose from. Windows has a stadard architecture for selecting which printer to use. UNIX does not.
Where was Microsoft when few years ago we were trying to integerate Windows machines into a SUN network. They did not support NIS, NIS+ or NFS. AFAIK they still don't.
SUN has had PC-NFS for some time and WIndows has shipped with a driver since I think the Win95 days (but I tihnk you still needed the full blown package from SUN but I am not sure). Microsoft has had a product out known as Services for UNIX (a.k.a. UNIX Services for Windows). I think version 1 came out a couple years ago. Version 2 has been out at least a year going by memory. Not sure if SFU1 has NIS in it, but SFU2 has NIS or NIS+ (not sure if it does both or not). I think both has NFS -- I know SFU2 does.
Sun Tzu wrote that to win a war you had to know yourself and know your enemy. Looks like you need to work on that know your enemy part (Microsoft).
But of course if they are written properly (I'm not inplying that they aren't), you'd only have to give permission to write directly the disk and not need total Administration privaliges. IIRC there is a way to do just that in Windows 2000, but I don't know how you'd go about doing it.
It would have to be done for the user, not the application, but it should be possible. Figuring out which obscure right you need to grant is another story....
Under W2K it is also possible to run applications as a different user, either via a checkbox for a shortcut (double-clicking the shortcut brings up a requestor asking who to run it as) or the runas command line tool. Some stuff works fine that, others do not (only issue I have seen is with some installers/uninstallers).
Running Windows 2000 on my desktop is farcical - half my software won't work properly if I don't give my user account admin priviledges. It amazes me how many allegedly Windows 2000 compatible programs decide that they're going to attempt to store temporary information in the system registry instead of the roving user registries.
And just what software would that be? The only "application" I have run into that needs admin rights is the Adobe Gamma tool (comes with Photoshop) and it might need those rights. FYI, I'm in the Power Users group.
I think one point that has been missed is how Microsoft tries to improve things for administrators. In the UNIX/Linux world text based config files edited by vi still rules. Integrating LDAP is left as an exercise to the adminsitrators and developers. Windows 2000 comes with LDAP built-in and we are starting to see applications that use it.
Heck, take something as simple as printing. We have a Sun Ray server at work with our users spread across two buildings. Out of the box Windows can deal with networked print queues easily enough that users can even stumble through it. Why is it so difficult for UNIX? For example, we have a SUn Ray server here supporting around 50 users spread out across multiple buildings. There is no easy method for users to set a default printer (keeping in mind that some of our users do not know anything about UNIX). I do not think it speaks very well for the UNIX community that such a simple problem is still not resolved.
I also remember looking into using LDAP for user acounts, authentication, etc. for Solaris. Except *maybe* for Solaris 8 the whole process is undocumented and unsuported. Meanwhile, it is now part of the Windows 2000 architecture.
We are seeing steps being taken, such as SUN going with Gnome in the future (though I would have preferred KDE). But it seems like the UNIX community is in reactionary mode.
The innovation Microsoft has done is to take existing things and integrate them. Installers, LDAP, etc. For whatever reason, the UNIX community has not seen or accepted the benefits of taking seperate products/projects and integrating them together to achieve something that is greater than the sum of its parts.
Micosoft and Windows are by no means perfect. And adding new functionality like an LDAP database does increase complexity. Yet it seems that Microsoft is at at least moving forward while UNIX/Linux seems stuck in the same old hack a solution together mentality.
I thin it's also a good time for you - the reader/user to post what do you want to be changed in KDE? what do u hate about KDE? what do you like? What do you think should be improved? What do you think should be removed? most of the KDE developers read slashdot - so maybe your request will be fullfilled - you never know...
I'd like to see better documentation on how to get KDE to compile on SPARC Solaris when using gcc. I spent a week on and off trying to get 2.0 to compile but was never successful, even after making the necessary changes for the libice issues. Same thing for 2.1.
Afte that I got the PatriotSoft build (they finally came out with a 2.1 package). Based on that I think work needs to be done for multi-user environments. It seems like there are way too many processes associated with KDE right now.
Additionally, we had problems if someone logged in more than once. Running control panel in that scenario would cause KDE to die horribly, making the box unusable until I ran the reboot comand (the first time it happened I tried init 6 and ps|grep but kept running out of memory and other issues). Ouch!
This happned twice. The first time I was logged onto the console and a Sun Ray via XDM (the Sun Ray server was another box, not this one). One other user was also connected via a Sun Ray. The second time I was logged on the console and a Sun Ray user was logged in twice via XDM (i.e. the person had two different Sun Ray sessions running, both XDM'ing to my box).
Sun Rays are thin clients. Client sessions all run on a Sun Ray server (in this case an Ultra 450 running Solaris 2.6). The dispay and sound are pushed out to the clients and of course keboard/mouse input it sent back. Sun Ray users get a dtlogin/dtgreet (XDM) login just like you would on the console.
In other news, the populace of the world collectively threw up their hands as Corporations began the patenting and licensing of water to the human race.
Okay, privitization is not the same as licensing, but check this link from ProjectCensored out. Countries owning or controlling water supplies for other countries, huge revenues expected from selling water, etc. Not a pretty picture.
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I just wish installing KDE on Solaris was as simple.
PatriotSoft makes Solaris 8 KDE packages. Only catch is they replace Sun's dtgreet logo with their own but that is easily fixed. We have been using their KDE 1.x package in production where I work for 1.5 years now. The KDE 2.x stuff seems to have problems when you logon on graphically more than once but that might be fixed now (run the control panel while logged in twice but only on a box no one cares about).
...it looks like Perl.com is/.'ed already. What a shame. I usually expect better or O'Reilly.
Come now! If the site handles the load then it is taken for granted. If the site is overwhelmed by a story on Slashdot then they get bragging rights. I wouldn't be surprised if admins were running nice -20 kfract or similar just to make sure they get the prestigeous slashdot effect!:-)
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Depends on what you are doing. I have a Windows 2000 Server running on a P166 overclocked to 200MHz with no level 2 cache and just 104 MB of memory. Yeah, I turned a lot of stuff off but not as much as you think. With no one logged in on the console and one Terminal Services users (i.e. remote admin) it uses about 90MB of memory. For the curious I use it as a file and print server.
And as for the swap file thing, that's ridiculous. I don't think he should have been expected to know that Windows breaks horribly when swap space drops to or below 2MB. I remember doing the same thing with NT 4.0 and wondering why the system broke (couldn't start up most services), despite having tons of RAM as long as it didn't have any swap.
On Linux, I can run swapon and swapoff. I don't think it's particularly obvious or intuitive that NT just breaks when you cut the swap file size.
If you delete all your swap in W2K and reboot I think it will automatically create a 2MB(?) swap file and let you know it is doing it (might need "Send Administrative Alerts" enabled but it should be logged to the system event log regardless). Not sure why it needs a pagefile but maybe it has something to do with capturing a crash dump.
Really, this sounds more like a case of Windows making it too easy for underqualified administrators to do things.
Actually, the NTFS filesystem is case-sensitive. I think it has to be for POSIX compliance though I am not sure that is the reason support for it was built-in. But you are correct -- Windows encapsulates that into the perception of case-insensitivity.
I would seriously think about going into teaching at a College or University but the reality is you do research first and foremost and teach as an afterthought. Many people have said I would make a good teacher, but the research has been too much of a turn-off for me to want to go into it.
Maybe I should look into teaching certification training classes instead. Oh, wait. The, uhh, quality [cough,cough] students I'd get in the MCSE classes would drive me insane.
But what is the point of running Exchange without using the Outlook client??? You cannot always sperate the backend from the client!
Because that would be Compeltely Retarded(TM) and go against the whole damn idea of having things installed as components.
That's a pretty simplistic notion. SUN has this concept of meta-packages, where a package can be a superset of packages. Anyone who has installed Solaris has run into this (where you are asked what you want to install and given options such as Everything Plus OEM). Couldn't something similar be done with RPM?
For example, divide the compnent RPM's into 3 or 4 major categories and then create an RPM for each one whose sole purpose was to install several RPMs (based said categories). Then one big tarball could be created, giving those who want to be picky their flexibility while still making it easy for those who want to install all or almost all of it.
Either way if you go with W2K you will soon discover that it is a maintenance nightmare compared to *NIX (basically, multi-user support was kludged onto the NT kernel, as opposed to being designed to be there in the first place).
If you do not have to use Windows then you could consider Sun Rays.
If you have a small number of people who would need Windows access then you could setup a Citrix MetaFrame server and have those users run the Solaris ICA client.
We have two Sun Ray servers here with about 60-70 Sun Rays between the two right now. We're also running a Citrix MetaFrame for UNIX server (for the curious on Slashdot, for after hours dial-up support). The only real problem we have is with graphics intensive applications. Lots and lots of display deltas do not mix with any thin client technology.
It also hurts the competition -- are you as likely to buy Carrara, Cinema 4D, or Bryce now that you can get Maya Personal Edition for free? What about using/trying/buying Autodesk or Lightwave?
It's like Solaris x86 -- a great way to get Solaris experience on a tight budget.
... has a good bok that may help: Prescription Medicide : The Goodness of Planned Death ;-)
I thought CDDA was a standard and a trademark, not a patent?
For RTS fun on a LAN this one is hard to beat. You can get a good mix of longer running normal games to much shorter defend the wonder and king of the hill games. And if you have an odd number of people you can help offset that by having two people controlling the same civ -- ypically one focuses on resources and the other player focus on military and exploration (or they trip all over each other and die a quick death ;-).
You'd want all three products : Network Shell, Configure, and Audit.
Have not used them but this is one of the products we are considering purchasing here at work. I like that it is easy to use native package formats (at least on UNIX). Many other distribution platforms require the software to be repacked rather than use e.g. RPM for Linux and pkgadd for Solaris. But Bladelogic seems to be based much more around using the native package formats, which is great if you download a lot of packages off the 'net (e.g. from sunfreeware like we do here).
Anyone know any good alternatives to Bladelogic?
What are you talking about? The NYTimes has been consistently hostile to George W. Bush (at least up to 9-11)! Every time I had Hardball with Chris Matthews on he would be talking about this obvious bias. The reason they did not publish the results is because they hoped it would show that Gore won but did not. You got it backwards.
But I do agree with a lot of what you said.
Yet we are more likely to need to work for someone else today then we were in the past. There is no longer a frontier to move to and rarely can you own a plot of land today and actually live off of it -- the property tax alone is likely to force you to hold a job with someone else. Even if you could live off of your land you are likely to become more and more diconnected with the rest of our society, much more so than in the past (e.g. Davey Crockett was elected to the House or Senate -- is that going to happen today?
We need to recognize that the rules have changed, which in turn means we need to be much more vigilant about worker's rights.
In theory any e-mail client that supports SPA could be used. Right now that would be MSN Explorer, Outlook Express, and Outlook.
This will make or break the concept... Lets hope the CD bombs.
Not to nitpick but did you know that serif fonts are usually easier to read than sans-serif ones (i.e. cause less eye strain)? Okay, okay -- I am nitpicking! :-)
Microsoft Train Simulator might be a good choice. It is more challenging than it may seem. For passenger trains you have deadlines to meet (get to this station at time X) and they up the ante by putting track under maintenance (have to go slower) or rerouting because of problems forcing you to try and make up lost time.
For freight some of the harder scenarios have you maunally building the consist yourself -- imagine having to foigure out which tracks you need to be on to get each car added to the train in the correct order so that they can be dropped off in the correct order. It's like a puzzle game.
In all scenarios the user is rated for minor screwups, where you were speeding, and whether you jarred the cargo/passengers too much.
And I have not even tried the steam engines yet!
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Admintool. All it does is make the server a print server. If I have a user in building X and another in building Y it does not help them out beyond providing a list of possible printers to use. Which does not help if the application does not provide a list to choose from. Windows has a stadard architecture for selecting which printer to use. UNIX does not. Where was Microsoft when few years ago we were trying to integerate Windows machines into a SUN network. They did not support NIS, NIS+ or NFS. AFAIK they still don't.
SUN has had PC-NFS for some time and WIndows has shipped with a driver since I think the Win95 days (but I tihnk you still needed the full blown package from SUN but I am not sure). Microsoft has had a product out known as Services for UNIX (a.k.a. UNIX Services for Windows). I think version 1 came out a couple years ago. Version 2 has been out at least a year going by memory. Not sure if SFU1 has NIS in it, but SFU2 has NIS or NIS+ (not sure if it does both or not). I think both has NFS -- I know SFU2 does.
Sun Tzu wrote that to win a war you had to know yourself and know your enemy. Looks like you need to work on that know your enemy part (Microsoft).
It would have to be done for the user, not the application, but it should be possible. Figuring out which obscure right you need to grant is another story....
Under W2K it is also possible to run applications as a different user, either via a checkbox for a shortcut (double-clicking the shortcut brings up a requestor asking who to run it as) or the runas command line tool. Some stuff works fine that, others do not (only issue I have seen is with some installers/uninstallers).
And just what software would that be? The only "application" I have run into that needs admin rights is the Adobe Gamma tool (comes with Photoshop) and it might need those rights. FYI, I'm in the Power Users group.
Heck, take something as simple as printing. We have a Sun Ray server at work with our users spread across two buildings. Out of the box Windows can deal with networked print queues easily enough that users can even stumble through it. Why is it so difficult for UNIX? For example, we have a SUn Ray server here supporting around 50 users spread out across multiple buildings. There is no easy method for users to set a default printer (keeping in mind that some of our users do not know anything about UNIX). I do not think it speaks very well for the UNIX community that such a simple problem is still not resolved.
I also remember looking into using LDAP for user acounts, authentication, etc. for Solaris. Except *maybe* for Solaris 8 the whole process is undocumented and unsuported. Meanwhile, it is now part of the Windows 2000 architecture.
We are seeing steps being taken, such as SUN going with Gnome in the future (though I would have preferred KDE). But it seems like the UNIX community is in reactionary mode.
The innovation Microsoft has done is to take existing things and integrate them. Installers, LDAP, etc. For whatever reason, the UNIX community has not seen or accepted the benefits of taking seperate products/projects and integrating them together to achieve something that is greater than the sum of its parts.
Micosoft and Windows are by no means perfect. And adding new functionality like an LDAP database does increase complexity. Yet it seems that Microsoft is at at least moving forward while UNIX/Linux seems stuck in the same old hack a solution together mentality.
I'd like to see better documentation on how to get KDE to compile on SPARC Solaris when using gcc. I spent a week on and off trying to get 2.0 to compile but was never successful, even after making the necessary changes for the libice issues. Same thing for 2.1.
Afte that I got the PatriotSoft build (they finally came out with a 2.1 package). Based on that I think work needs to be done for multi-user environments. It seems like there are way too many processes associated with KDE right now.
Additionally, we had problems if someone logged in more than once. Running control panel in that scenario would cause KDE to die horribly, making the box unusable until I ran the reboot comand (the first time it happened I tried init 6 and ps|grep but kept running out of memory and other issues). Ouch!
This happned twice. The first time I was logged onto the console and a Sun Ray via XDM (the Sun Ray server was another box, not this one). One other user was also connected via a Sun Ray. The second time I was logged on the console and a Sun Ray user was logged in twice via XDM (i.e. the person had two different Sun Ray sessions running, both XDM'ing to my box).
Sun Rays are thin clients. Client sessions all run on a Sun Ray server (in this case an Ultra 450 running Solaris 2.6). The dispay and sound are pushed out to the clients and of course keboard/mouse input it sent back. Sun Ray users get a dtlogin/dtgreet (XDM) login just like you would on the console.
Okay, privitization is not the same as licensing, but check this link from ProjectCensored out. Countries owning or controlling water supplies for other countries, huge revenues expected from selling water, etc. Not a pretty picture.
I just wish installing KDE on Solaris was as simple.
PatriotSoft makes Solaris 8 KDE packages. Only catch is they replace Sun's dtgreet logo with their own but that is easily fixed. We have been using their KDE 1.x package in production where I work for 1.5 years now. The KDE 2.x stuff seems to have problems when you logon on graphically more than once but that might be fixed now (run the control panel while logged in twice but only on a box no one cares about).
You can get the packages at: ftp://ftp.patriots.net/pub/solaris_packages/8-Spar c/KDE/
-- Argel
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll get hit by a nuclear submarine.
Come now! If the site handles the load then it is taken for granted. If the site is overwhelmed by a story on Slashdot then they get bragging rights. I wouldn't be surprised if admins were running nice -20 kfract or similar just to make sure they get the prestigeous slashdot effect! :-)