All this ballyhoo about "secret" limits is complete nonsense. I've been downloading movies using bittorrent 24 hours a day for weeks. And I've never had my internet usage limi
Awww man, I soooooo hate it when people whine in forums. Seriously. You'd think I could find just one forum that wasn't filled with whiners, but noooooo.
Meh. They probably had security cameras watching you.
I had an illegitimate which I put up for adoption, which I adopted myself under a false name, whom I raised to adolescence which is when I hired him to steal a copy of CS:S from his friend Mikey who also bought CS:S from a store using cash.
Completely unrelated to how life started? Evolution has a lot to say about how life started. Life, when it started, looked very different than life looks today. Life did not start in the multiple forms we see it today. All life appears to come from a single source. Tracking backwards, we know that when life first appeared on Earth the environment was extremely different. Because of these differences, we can know some things about the first organism (it must have been anaerobic, for example).
If we know something about how life changes and if we have a good idea of where life is, can we not trace backwards and make reasonable inferences about where life began?
Sorry for ranting at you. I agree completely with your points. I agree that teacher accountability is a good thing. But it needs to implemented along with a major shift in our approach to curriculum (as you point out).
I'll agree to this "holding teachers accountable" business if I get to hold my school district accountable. You can "hold me accountable" if:
I get to charge the district for all my overtime. I'm contracted for 37.5 hours a week. I work an average of 52 hours a week. The longest break I get is 20 minutes, if I lock my door shut during lunch period. I get time-and-a-half for the three to hours I put in every Sunday.
I get to charge the district for all of my personal money I spend on supplies. This includes tissues, pens, pencils, notebooks, markers, batteries for calculators, cleaner, and pies (for pi day!)
My school gets a full time counselor.
I have an administrator who does more than stop by for 13 minutes, then leave a two page report, highlighting mostly, the lack of student work on my walls.
I have time to sit and talk with my colleagues about students, school issues, and curriculum planning. "Time" is defined as contiguous periods longer than 7 minutes in length.
The school district agrees that art is an integral part of the curriculum and begins bringing back art offerings to every school.
Whew. Sorry. Rant. Yes, hold teachers accountable. Honestly, I don't mind. I'm proud of my work. However, teachers are not the problem. A good 85% of us are working to the threshold of exhaustion all year.
We should think about the university system. Why don't we yell about holding professors accountable? Cause if they suck, you go to a different school. I think we need to look into bringing that model to public schools.
Each generation they turn out is a lot dumber than the one preceding it. ...and get off your lawn?
Two things, if each generation is getting dumber, doesn't the older generation hold most of the responsibility, seeing as they are the educators, marketers, producers, etc? So we really must take that responsibility ourselves, no?
Second, at least if you look at math education in this country, harder subjects are getting pushed to lower and lower grades. We have algebra classes for seventh and eighth graders. We have 5th graders writing and graphing linear equations. It is rare to find a high school without a full calculus class. Offering second year calculus is not extremely common, but does happen. These classes are not limited to universities, as they used to be. The Flynn effect describes the upward trend in IQ scores found in industrialized nations.
Do these things mean we're getting smarter? Not necessarily, however, I think your conclusion is not as certain as you like.
Yeah, I don't make much money. I've got a math degree and a master's that I'll be paying off for quite a few years to come. And my math friends who decided not to become teachers make significantly more money than I do with significantly less schooling. Should math & science teachers make more money. Sure. A shortage in applicants means you need to increase the pay. That's pretty simple.
In spite of that, it's not the low pay that bothers me. It's the hours and the working conditions. I get to school at 7:15am. I leave at 5:15pm. If I've had 20 minutes to sit down and have lunch, I'm lucky. Most days I get absolutely no break. And I take homework home every weekend.
I just want fewer students and fewer preps. I want to get to know my students. I want to be able to talk with them. I want to know what they know and what they need to learn. I want to help them when they're struggling, and lift them up when they're having a bad day. I want to get in their face and challenge them. I want them to see that failing is not okay.
I want control over my curriculum. I want my students to decide what's important to them and study math through their ideas. Any curriculum abstracted away from the individual, any curriculum standardized to what some corporate suit things is important will fail to inspire the majority of students. Give me that job. I want to inspire my students. And I have an idea how to do it. But your all-important testing is holding me back.
That's what I want. I'm okay with the money. I'm not okay with the huge number of disengaged students and marginalized teachers.
I appreciate what you have to say. Definitely I think one of the hardest things for people to understand about computers is that the results seem simple but the workings of the program seem so complex. "We do all that and all it says is 'Hello world'?" It's important to get into the mindset of understanding, not just the results, but the logical arrangement of each little step to get there. Syntax is not the point. That's merely a tool to achieve a bigger goal.
At the same time, these are self-motivated students, not a graded class. And I need to make sure that they see progress on computers and have the thrill of a working program. There needs to be progress in both areas at the same time. And that is a hard line to place.
I like your idea of analyzing a game. Perhaps a program that plays tic-tac-toe against you and always ties? Connect four, maybe. Any more ideas? I'm thinking for these, I would make a library of functions for them to use so that they could focus on the logic, while at the same time getting an idea of syntax.
more of a guided discussion and collaboration that a traditional lecture course.
Yes. I don't think my post was quite clear on that. I'm thinking of it more as tutoring three students after school twice a week. So this is definitely how it's going to run. And I'll be upfront with them about the fact that I certainly don't know everything, but I know enough to get them started.
I agree that the thought process and logical structures are more important to focus on than jumping right into the programming, but it's a fine line, because they have to be seeing results to be having fun.
You suggest a simple game to program, but in my mind, (at least in C?) pong would seem fairly sophisticated for beginning students. Would that be the semester goal to work towards? Is there a different language you recommend that would make it easier to focus on logical structure? (books? I would need to learn about it this winter break) My plans for C was to set them up with libraries that simplify functions. For example, they would use my own output(q) function rather than worry about printf("%d",q).
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He didn't want the pope to cancel, he wanted the school to rescind the offer. Now the school does not have to face the protesters' challenges.
"I guess the people who have rigged the vote have never heard about Correlation Cofficient."
And apparently neither has the person who wrote the summary.
Seeing as you just gave us your opinion for free, I must point out that you don't fake it very well.
Well, Netcraft confirms it.
or a Linux environment ripped-off from Linux
Forking Linux developers!
Do it Rockapella?
All this ballyhoo about "secret" limits is complete nonsense. I've been downloading movies using bittorrent 24 hours a day for weeks. And I've never had my internet usage limi
Guess I won't be clicking that myspace link of yours...
Awww man, I soooooo hate it when people whine in forums. Seriously. You'd think I could find just one forum that wasn't filled with whiners, but noooooo.
You feeling alright Satan?
I suppose that would qualify as effective parenting?
Meh. They probably had security cameras watching you. I had an illegitimate which I put up for adoption, which I adopted myself under a false name, whom I raised to adolescence which is when I hired him to steal a copy of CS:S from his friend Mikey who also bought CS:S from a store using cash.
Completely unrelated to how life started? Evolution has a lot to say about how life started. Life, when it started, looked very different than life looks today. Life did not start in the multiple forms we see it today. All life appears to come from a single source. Tracking backwards, we know that when life first appeared on Earth the environment was extremely different. Because of these differences, we can know some things about the first organism (it must have been anaerobic, for example).
If we know something about how life changes and if we have a good idea of where life is, can we not trace backwards and make reasonable inferences about where life began?
Sorry for ranting at you. I agree completely with your points. I agree that teacher accountability is a good thing. But it needs to implemented along with a major shift in our approach to curriculum (as you point out).
- I get to charge the district for all my overtime. I'm contracted for 37.5 hours a week. I work an average of 52 hours a week. The longest break I get is 20 minutes, if I lock my door shut during lunch period. I get time-and-a-half for the three to hours I put in every Sunday.
- I get to charge the district for all of my personal money I spend on supplies. This includes tissues, pens, pencils, notebooks, markers, batteries for calculators, cleaner, and pies (for pi day!)
- My school gets a full time counselor.
- I have an administrator who does more than stop by for 13 minutes, then leave a two page report, highlighting mostly, the lack of student work on my walls.
- I have time to sit and talk with my colleagues about students, school issues, and curriculum planning. "Time" is defined as contiguous periods longer than 7 minutes in length.
- The school district agrees that art is an integral part of the curriculum and begins bringing back art offerings to every school.
Whew. Sorry. Rant. Yes, hold teachers accountable. Honestly, I don't mind. I'm proud of my work. However, teachers are not the problem. A good 85% of us are working to the threshold of exhaustion all year.We should think about the university system. Why don't we yell about holding professors accountable? Cause if they suck, you go to a different school. I think we need to look into bringing that model to public schools.
Two things, if each generation is getting dumber, doesn't the older generation hold most of the responsibility, seeing as they are the educators, marketers, producers, etc? So we really must take that responsibility ourselves, no?
Second, at least if you look at math education in this country, harder subjects are getting pushed to lower and lower grades. We have algebra classes for seventh and eighth graders. We have 5th graders writing and graphing linear equations. It is rare to find a high school without a full calculus class. Offering second year calculus is not extremely common, but does happen. These classes are not limited to universities, as they used to be. The Flynn effect describes the upward trend in IQ scores found in industrialized nations.
Do these things mean we're getting smarter? Not necessarily, however, I think your conclusion is not as certain as you like.
I am interested in adapting your lesson plan to fit my curriculum. I am working on a few test questions on which to grade students. Please comment:
1) Why did the fish die?
a) Because the teacher poisoned them.
2) Write at least two sentences explaining thoughts about your answer to the first question.
Yeah, I don't make much money. I've got a math degree and a master's that I'll be paying off for quite a few years to come. And my math friends who decided not to become teachers make significantly more money than I do with significantly less schooling. Should math & science teachers make more money. Sure. A shortage in applicants means you need to increase the pay. That's pretty simple.
In spite of that, it's not the low pay that bothers me. It's the hours and the working conditions. I get to school at 7:15am. I leave at 5:15pm. If I've had 20 minutes to sit down and have lunch, I'm lucky. Most days I get absolutely no break. And I take homework home every weekend.
I just want fewer students and fewer preps. I want to get to know my students. I want to be able to talk with them. I want to know what they know and what they need to learn. I want to help them when they're struggling, and lift them up when they're having a bad day. I want to get in their face and challenge them. I want them to see that failing is not okay.
I want control over my curriculum. I want my students to decide what's important to them and study math through their ideas. Any curriculum abstracted away from the individual, any curriculum standardized to what some corporate suit things is important will fail to inspire the majority of students. Give me that job. I want to inspire my students. And I have an idea how to do it. But your all-important testing is holding me back.
That's what I want. I'm okay with the money. I'm not okay with the huge number of disengaged students and marginalized teachers.
And it said the same thing twice.
Society of Hysteria? SOCIETY OF HYSTERIA? aaaaaaaaah! SAVE YOURSELF!
No. It won't be okay. The internets will die.
It's been fun intar-web! We've had some good times! Never let go!
I appreciate what you have to say. Definitely I think one of the hardest things for people to understand about computers is that the results seem simple but the workings of the program seem so complex. "We do all that and all it says is 'Hello world'?" It's important to get into the mindset of understanding, not just the results, but the logical arrangement of each little step to get there. Syntax is not the point. That's merely a tool to achieve a bigger goal.
At the same time, these are self-motivated students, not a graded class. And I need to make sure that they see progress on computers and have the thrill of a working program. There needs to be progress in both areas at the same time. And that is a hard line to place.
I like your idea of analyzing a game. Perhaps a program that plays tic-tac-toe against you and always ties? Connect four, maybe. Any more ideas? I'm thinking for these, I would make a library of functions for them to use so that they could focus on the logic, while at the same time getting an idea of syntax.
Very good point. Will do.
more of a guided discussion and collaboration that a traditional lecture course.
Yes. I don't think my post was quite clear on that. I'm thinking of it more as tutoring three students after school twice a week. So this is definitely how it's going to run. And I'll be upfront with them about the fact that I certainly don't know everything, but I know enough to get them started.
I agree that the thought process and logical structures are more important to focus on than jumping right into the programming, but it's a fine line, because they have to be seeing results to be having fun.
You suggest a simple game to program, but in my mind, (at least in C?) pong would seem fairly sophisticated for beginning students. Would that be the semester goal to work towards? Is there a different language you recommend that would make it easier to focus on logical structure? (books? I would need to learn about it this winter break) My plans for C was to set them up with libraries that simplify functions. For example, they would use my own output(q) function rather than worry about printf("%d",q).
What books do you recommend?
Actually, this isn't the second Zero Day Exploit. The first one was a Nullity Day Exploit. But we don't have to worry about that one.