This sounds much more likely then what the others have suggested (dehydration, sleep deprivation). Sounds much more like a case of "pre-existing condition" with a side of "bad media".
This sounds really fishy to me too. How can this really happen. The human body can go a while without food and drink, and people usually pass out before they die. Was he on Speed or massive amounts of caffeine? Lack of sleep is a non-issue. Generally you can't die from lack of sleep. Eventually you WILL fall to sleep, regardless of how hard you try. My guess is that this must be a case of dehydration. But why didn't the person just pass out before dying? There must be something else involved with this, or it's bullshit.
Why is it that we're saying "Hay Free OS, why aren't you as good as this one that costs money?" Shouldn't we be saying, "Hay expensive OS's, why is this Free OS almost as good as you?"
Sorry bro, just trying to get folks from different groups talking, while not compromising the things I believe in. Also, I can't say that I see your point. I don't see how your two statements about the purpose of "death" really changes anything. Often, when the Bible talks about "death" and "birth", it's referring to a spiritual death and birth. I'm not sure if this answers anything, but it seems like your putting an offal lot of weight on this logic equation of yours. Can't say that I totally understand it...sorry.
Fellow Christians, what are we doing? Science, Scientific endeavors, and the scientific mind are good things. According to Genesis, God assigned the task of naming all creatures to Adam. What is that but blatant scientific observation and classification. I think it's obvious that God expects our honest and thorough attention in our attempts to understand the world He created. We should never discourage honest scientific research and discovery, especially when it CONTRADICTS the Bible. Why, because anything else would be a Lie to what we've witnessed. And we should never condone or encourage that. Would we ask an honest scientist to alter his/her findings to attain our favor? Seriously, that's pathetic. Our understanding of the Natural world is far from perfect. And our understanding of God and his ways is even less complete (He actually tells us that). Therefore, we should never be scared of contradictions between the two disciplines, but encouraged that there is still more for us to discover. I personally love the theory of Evolution. I find it elegant, and I've never understood any part of it that seriously contradicted the Bible's history of creation. We need to lighten up and support Scientists in their good work. While it may trouble us that they do not share our love for Christ Jesus. Discouraging them from performing the one task they love (and assigned to them by God, if we believe the Bible that we claim to) is not the answer. And suppressing their findings via the DMCA, laws, or school boards only displays our lack of faith, respect for their work, and disinterest in Gods creation.
What the heck do you think the Australians are doing? And Yes, the US is doing this too, along with every other country/corporation/constituent group that can.
At first I thought this was the Bush Administrations latest "plan" on balancing the budget.
"...We need to unify the Five Forces of economics,....and take the fight to Al-Qaeda."
I'm just hoping that the version of Office XP I bought in college will install on a new laptop. I no longer have the computer it use to run on, I assume it'll be just a matter of transferring the license from that old broken laptop to a newer one.
Your absolutely lying. The RAZR by default is set to have the external displays BACKLIGHT turn off after periods of inactivity. But, the display is still visible in direct light. It is an option to then configure the external display to go completely out after a period of inactivity, for optimal battery life. If you don't call the external display with date and time an indicator, I'm not sure what else your looking for. +
I don't have every cell phone I've ever owned logged down, nor do I have their model numbers memorized. To expect me to recite them back to you is ridiculous. But seeing that you yourself are a liar, I can see how you would have trouble with this....and I can tell you that none of the phones that I owned, of which you can't believe any of them had a power indicator, ever cost me a $4800 dollar phone bill.
Here's a copy of the RAZR v3 users manual if your uncertain of its features:
http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/manuals/v3_manual9491A47O.pdf
Going from your Sony Ericsson to "practically every cell phone out there" is a pretty big leap. I've probably owned 5 or 6 cell phones in my life, not a large sample by anyone's comparison. But every one I've ever owned did have a visible indicator to differentiate between "Off" and "Sleep". As I've said before, I do believe that this is a MINOR UI flaw, one that won't keep me from buying an iPhones for my wife and I this Christmas. However, it is a flaw just the same, and it resulted in a $4500 dollar phone bill. That fact alone dictates that this flaw be taken seriously. I know that in my profession, if we cause a customer to spend $4500 dollars unnecessarily, we expect to hear from them rather quickly. And a bug fix will be assigned with the highest importance, and that is no exaggeration. In our bug reporting system, customer complaints are assigned the Highest Priority. This is standard operation in most companies I've worked for, and Apple and AT&T better damn well acknowledge it.
That doesn't surprise me, I haven't owned every phone ever made. I was just commenting on my personal experiences. And based upon my personal experience, I can understand how this design flaw (I will call it a flaw) could have caught the two people unaware. Off may be really "Off", but if there's no way to tell if an iPhone is "Off" or "Sleeping" at first glance, then it's a UI design flaw. Especially if that flaw results in a $4800 dollar bill. Now, whether or not Apple/AT&T should have to pay, or if these two people are liars/stupid, that's a separate discussion that I am not concerned with.
That's not true. Every phone I've ever owned has had an obvious indicator when it is in sleep mode vs. Off. Either they have a blinking LED, or the screen's backlight goes out. However, the screen doesn't turn totally off. It's darkened, but not Off. If there's not indicator that an iPhone is in sleep mode, then that is a problem. I've never owned a phone that turns totally blank when it is in sleep mode.
FYI - I'm buying two iPhones for my wife and I for Christmas. I think that the above issue is a legitimate problem, but not big enough for me to reconsider buying it.
This is where all those "I personally welcome our *insert comment* overloards..." comments have been pointing towards these past few years. Ya know, I'm very interested to see how this turns out. But unless this "Smarter then Human" machine doesn't briefly consider Humanity for a few moments, and then ignores us forever, I can't see this being beneficial. There are no "free lunches", no easy fixes. For all technologies "gifts" (and I do enjoy them, really), I still end up working 40 hours a week, and stressed with daily life. I predict that no one will be happy with the "answers" this machine provides. Why? Because if we like the answers, then it would have been within reach of our reasoning abilities all along. Before we find a better source for answers, we need to decide if we are willing to follow them and no longer be in control of our lives.
Ya wanna know what my rights are? Not to spend $20 dollars on an album that I can recreate with a.50 cent CD-R and 5 minutes of my time. It's my right to avoid your DRM and Root Kits for the past 10 years (roughly how long its been since I bought a major record album). And judging by what I hear from the major record labels, I'm not the only one exercising these rights. I don't steal music, but I don't buy it either. The fact is, it's Perceived Value (look it up, it's a business term) is no longer there. Sorry, that's the story of progress. If you are confused, refer to auto-factory workers, real estate agents, tax accounts, travel agents,... others who have had to change their careers due to the internet and new technology. Don't worry, your not the only one going through this. Right now, I'm an IT guy who's watching all my job opportunities ship over seas. What you have to do to survive is "go back to school and learn something new."
Well, I could say that maybe legislation like the Patriot Act, while not getting rid of Judges, could largely make them impotent. Lifetime appointment means nothing if all your responsibilities have been assigned to others. But no, I won't say that. Actually, I admit that I had forgotten that judges had a lifetime appointment. So Yes, you completely pawned me. I admit it. So, I guess I'm going to go back and study my Social Studies books. So if you'll pardon me, I hear 4th grade calling.
Call me a cynic, but I think it's the Judge's own desire to preserve his JOB that may be the motivation here. Like lawmakers approving legislation for their own pay raises through in record time, there's no motivator like self-interest.
"(I'm British hindu, I've never seen a debate about my religion here)" - VJ42
VJ, I tried to mod you up for good karma;) (not sure I succeeded though)
Thanks for the insight.
Seriously, I'm a Christian (and fan of everything scientific and technological), and I'm asking myself that same question. Why is this on Slashdot? I'm not asking this because I want the story removed or anything, I'm actually indifferent. But I find it funny that this site has more debates on religion then I see anywhere else on the web. What's the deal, why all the interest in all things religious?
On a side note, why would a religion restrict the distribution of their "gospel"? Christianity does not stop people from reproducing pieces of the Bible. Just as long as you are accurate, and properly reference the citation with book, verse, and version (ex. John 3:16 NIV).
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This sounds much more likely then what the others have suggested (dehydration, sleep deprivation). Sounds much more like a case of "pre-existing condition" with a side of "bad media".
This sounds really fishy to me too. How can this really happen. The human body can go a while without food and drink, and people usually pass out before they die. Was he on Speed or massive amounts of caffeine? Lack of sleep is a non-issue. Generally you can't die from lack of sleep. Eventually you WILL fall to sleep, regardless of how hard you try. My guess is that this must be a case of dehydration. But why didn't the person just pass out before dying? There must be something else involved with this, or it's bullshit.
Why is it that we're saying "Hay Free OS, why aren't you as good as this one that costs money?" Shouldn't we be saying, "Hay expensive OS's, why is this Free OS almost as good as you?"
Sorry bro, just trying to get folks from different groups talking, while not compromising the things I believe in. Also, I can't say that I see your point. I don't see how your two statements about the purpose of "death" really changes anything. Often, when the Bible talks about "death" and "birth", it's referring to a spiritual death and birth. I'm not sure if this answers anything, but it seems like your putting an offal lot of weight on this logic equation of yours. Can't say that I totally understand it...sorry.
Fellow Christians, what are we doing? Science, Scientific endeavors, and the scientific mind are good things. According to Genesis, God assigned the task of naming all creatures to Adam. What is that but blatant scientific observation and classification. I think it's obvious that God expects our honest and thorough attention in our attempts to understand the world He created. We should never discourage honest scientific research and discovery, especially when it CONTRADICTS the Bible. Why, because anything else would be a Lie to what we've witnessed. And we should never condone or encourage that. Would we ask an honest scientist to alter his/her findings to attain our favor? Seriously, that's pathetic. Our understanding of the Natural world is far from perfect. And our understanding of God and his ways is even less complete (He actually tells us that). Therefore, we should never be scared of contradictions between the two disciplines, but encouraged that there is still more for us to discover. I personally love the theory of Evolution. I find it elegant, and I've never understood any part of it that seriously contradicted the Bible's history of creation. We need to lighten up and support Scientists in their good work. While it may trouble us that they do not share our love for Christ Jesus. Discouraging them from performing the one task they love (and assigned to them by God, if we believe the Bible that we claim to) is not the answer. And suppressing their findings via the DMCA, laws, or school boards only displays our lack of faith, respect for their work, and disinterest in Gods creation.
What the heck do you think the Australians are doing? And Yes, the US is doing this too, along with every other country/corporation/constituent group that can.
At first I thought this was the Bush Administrations latest "plan" on balancing the budget. "...We need to unify the Five Forces of economics, ....and take the fight to Al-Qaeda."
...Oh, I forgot about the soda "End-Cap". Sounds like money well spent.
Catcher in the Rye, Grapes of Wrath, Holden Caulfield
I haven't seen a single commercial on TV ...hope they kept their receipt.
I'd like to comment, but my Subject line says it all.
Is this so "black boxes" will still function upon a failed reentry?
I'm just hoping that the version of Office XP I bought in college will install on a new laptop. I no longer have the computer it use to run on, I assume it'll be just a matter of transferring the license from that old broken laptop to a newer one.
But with Vista, an OS I'm actively trying to avoid (pirated or legitimate), I'm not too concerned.
Your absolutely lying. The RAZR by default is set to have the external displays BACKLIGHT turn off after periods of inactivity. But, the display is still visible in direct light. It is an option to then configure the external display to go completely out after a period of inactivity, for optimal battery life. If you don't call the external display with date and time an indicator, I'm not sure what else your looking for. + I don't have every cell phone I've ever owned logged down, nor do I have their model numbers memorized. To expect me to recite them back to you is ridiculous. But seeing that you yourself are a liar, I can see how you would have trouble with this. ...and I can tell you that none of the phones that I owned, of which you can't believe any of them had a power indicator, ever cost me a $4800 dollar phone bill.
Here's a copy of the RAZR v3 users manual if your uncertain of its features:
http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/manuals/v3_manual9491A47O.pdf
Going from your Sony Ericsson to "practically every cell phone out there" is a pretty big leap. I've probably owned 5 or 6 cell phones in my life, not a large sample by anyone's comparison. But every one I've ever owned did have a visible indicator to differentiate between "Off" and "Sleep". As I've said before, I do believe that this is a MINOR UI flaw, one that won't keep me from buying an iPhones for my wife and I this Christmas. However, it is a flaw just the same, and it resulted in a $4500 dollar phone bill. That fact alone dictates that this flaw be taken seriously. I know that in my profession, if we cause a customer to spend $4500 dollars unnecessarily, we expect to hear from them rather quickly. And a bug fix will be assigned with the highest importance, and that is no exaggeration. In our bug reporting system, customer complaints are assigned the Highest Priority. This is standard operation in most companies I've worked for, and Apple and AT&T better damn well acknowledge it.
That doesn't surprise me, I haven't owned every phone ever made. I was just commenting on my personal experiences. And based upon my personal experience, I can understand how this design flaw (I will call it a flaw) could have caught the two people unaware. Off may be really "Off", but if there's no way to tell if an iPhone is "Off" or "Sleeping" at first glance, then it's a UI design flaw. Especially if that flaw results in a $4800 dollar bill. Now, whether or not Apple/AT&T should have to pay, or if these two people are liars/stupid, that's a separate discussion that I am not concerned with.
That's not true. Every phone I've ever owned has had an obvious indicator when it is in sleep mode vs. Off. Either they have a blinking LED, or the screen's backlight goes out. However, the screen doesn't turn totally off. It's darkened, but not Off. If there's not indicator that an iPhone is in sleep mode, then that is a problem. I've never owned a phone that turns totally blank when it is in sleep mode. FYI - I'm buying two iPhones for my wife and I for Christmas. I think that the above issue is a legitimate problem, but not big enough for me to reconsider buying it.
This is where all those "I personally welcome our *insert comment* overloards..." comments have been pointing towards these past few years. Ya know, I'm very interested to see how this turns out. But unless this "Smarter then Human" machine doesn't briefly consider Humanity for a few moments, and then ignores us forever, I can't see this being beneficial. There are no "free lunches", no easy fixes. For all technologies "gifts" (and I do enjoy them, really), I still end up working 40 hours a week, and stressed with daily life. I predict that no one will be happy with the "answers" this machine provides. Why? Because if we like the answers, then it would have been within reach of our reasoning abilities all along. Before we find a better source for answers, we need to decide if we are willing to follow them and no longer be in control of our lives.
Ya wanna know what my rights are? Not to spend $20 dollars on an album that I can recreate with a .50 cent CD-R and 5 minutes of my time. It's my right to avoid your DRM and Root Kits for the past 10 years (roughly how long its been since I bought a major record album). And judging by what I hear from the major record labels, I'm not the only one exercising these rights. I don't steal music, but I don't buy it either. The fact is, it's Perceived Value (look it up, it's a business term) is no longer there. Sorry, that's the story of progress. If you are confused, refer to auto-factory workers, real estate agents, tax accounts, travel agents,... others who have had to change their careers due to the internet and new technology. Don't worry, your not the only one going through this. Right now, I'm an IT guy who's watching all my job opportunities ship over seas. What you have to do to survive is "go back to school and learn something new."
Just hold still Sir while we solder these leads to your Posterior Lobes. You may feel some "pressure"...
Well, I could say that maybe legislation like the Patriot Act, while not getting rid of Judges, could largely make them impotent. Lifetime appointment means nothing if all your responsibilities have been assigned to others. But no, I won't say that. Actually, I admit that I had forgotten that judges had a lifetime appointment. So Yes, you completely pawned me. I admit it. So, I guess I'm going to go back and study my Social Studies books. So if you'll pardon me, I hear 4th grade calling.
Call me a cynic, but I think it's the Judge's own desire to preserve his JOB that may be the motivation here. Like lawmakers approving legislation for their own pay raises through in record time, there's no motivator like self-interest.
"(I'm British hindu, I've never seen a debate about my religion here)" - VJ42 VJ, I tried to mod you up for good karma ;) (not sure I succeeded though)
Thanks for the insight.
Seriously, I'm a Christian (and fan of everything scientific and technological), and I'm asking myself that same question. Why is this on Slashdot? I'm not asking this because I want the story removed or anything, I'm actually indifferent. But I find it funny that this site has more debates on religion then I see anywhere else on the web. What's the deal, why all the interest in all things religious? On a side note, why would a religion restrict the distribution of their "gospel"? Christianity does not stop people from reproducing pieces of the Bible. Just as long as you are accurate, and properly reference the citation with book, verse, and version (ex. John 3:16 NIV).