Being at peace with Microsoft doesn't prevent you from supporting Linux, but supporting Linux does prevent you from being at peace with Microsoft. M$ will see this as a hostile act and terminate their non-aggression pact with Japan. Hopefully the Japanese will see it coming sooner that Stalin did.
Does that count as an invocation of Godwin's Law, or was it too subtle?
We're trying to convince people that Linux is ready for consumer use, and you go and assume that everyone has a compile-farm lying around their house. Thanks for setting back Linux-desktop PR by two years:-)
Yes they are tied, but those ties can be severed (as was demonstrated by a professor during the trial).
You also seem to have missed the reference about M$ lying and sabotaging during the trial. They showed a video of a computer running Windows. Then they removed IE. Then they tried using the IE-less Windows, and things went badly. However, somebody noticed that the IE-less Windows was (get this) a different machine! Yes, M$ lied and showed (in their videotaped presentation) a different machine that they had deliberately sabotaged so that it ran very badly.
There is almost no room for cries of 'honest mistake'. This is like me filming somebody hitting a brand new Lexus with a hammer, and then cutting to a shot of a crushed Dodge Neon that I bought from a junkyard. Damn those Lexus crumple easily!
BUT I also believe I as an individual should be able to accurately filter out crap I do not want to see. The KEY is that I, myself, get to define "crap".
That is sort-of my view, except that I don't want to have to look at all of the crap and make my own whitelist/blacklist (kind of defeats the point). The core of my idea is that *you* get to decide who makes these decisions for you. If you object to graphic violence, then find some group that lets all of the porn through, but filters-out the graphic violence, and subscribe to their blacklist.
The domain-name thing is way too inflexible (as you hinted-at). We need people to make these judgement calls.
I am the person to tell them to keep their 'property' off of my 'property' (mindshare and hardware) if they want to restrict my ability to save it for my personal viewing at a later date. I am also the person who decides what software I run and do not run on my computers. The not-run category will include any DRM libraries that I do not approve of, and all of that 'Trust-us Computing' garbage. If the content-providers don't like it, then they can sit in a cave on their trove of property, or try to sell it to the lemmings.
I use Linux exclusively (at home, where I do my shopping). How easy is it for me to use iTunes (not trolling, is it really possible?) Almost all of my music listening is done over the CD player in my car, can I burn iTunes tracks to CD? The rest of my music listening time is on my Linux computer or my wife's RCA Lyra MP3 player. Can I really buy and use songs from iTunes? Can I use any songs from any DRM'd source that is available today? I use MP3's all the time (and Ogg occasionally, but not in the Lyra), so I know that those work.
How can we be expected to police the world if every half-acre hamlet has their own laws? No, I think we'll just treat everything outside of our borders as a 'protectorate' of the USA and save you from yourselves. Then we can bitch that the U.N. wants to create a One-World-Government.
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What we really need is a standard whitelist/blacklist/ratinglist propogation protocol. Then every church, PTA, political party, etc. can compile their own list, and adherents to that church or group can decide to subscribe to that filtering mechanism. Not only should the state not be doing this on free speech grounds, but different sites would show-up on:
a Mormon blacklist
a Catholic blacklist
a Mennonite whitelist
a Chicago PTA ratinglist
a Southern Poverty Law Center blacklist
The government isn't going to be good at this. In fact, no single group would be good at this.
Oh yeah, and the protocol should support automatic periodic updates and the ability to subscribe-to/merge multiple lists.
When it comes to traditional Roman Catholic teachings, the Pope is quite rigid.
That's true, but "traditional Roman Catholic teachings" are not the same as what is in the Bible. The Roman Catholic Church makes Church law as it sees fit; it does not necessarily agree with the Bible. The official position of the Church is something along the lines of "the authors of the Bible were 'inspired' by God, but the words and even concepts came from the human authors".
Therefor, the Pope is not a fundamentalist. If you don't believe me, ask a Catholic (esp. a Jesuit, they are most interested in such distinctions). Disclaimer: IANAC (I am not a Catholic (anymore)).
The Pope is not a Fundamentalist, because he does not believe that every word in the Bible is literal truth. From www.dict.org:
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48:
fundamentalism \fundamentalism\ n.
1. A system of beliefs based on the interpretation of every word in the Bible, both old and new testaments, as literal truth. It is primarily held by a branch of American Protestants. [WordNet 1.5]
2. The beliefs or practises based on a rigid adherence to some traditional doctrine; extreme conservatism; as, Moslem fundamentalism; the political fundamentalism of the Christian right. [PJC] fundamentalist
From WordNet (r) 2.0:
fundamentalism
n : the interpretation of every word in the sacred texts as literal truth
Taking the Bible to be the exact and inerrant word of God is basically the litmus test for being a Fundamentalist. You obviously didn't come from a Fundamentalist background.
Sorry, most of my dances-with-trucks time is on divided highways (Interstate), so the ones going to opposite direction aren't a factor. On the city surface streets, no one gets to get fast (not even the motorcycles).
While that idea might be more fair, I would personally hate to see it happen (for my own selfish reasons). If they start charging separately, then they are going to cancel any channel that doesn't get enough people to sign up for it. Or they are going to charge a higher price for channels with fewer subscribers. Result: ESPN.* will be 50 cents a month and SciFi, History Channel, TLC, Discovery.*, and NatGeo will be $15 each. If your tastes aren't in line with American norms (and you are on/., after all), then right now your channels are subsidized by viewers who pay for package deals.
I support the monoculture...the Linux monoculture. Having the same OS on your: PDA, desktop, servers, mainframes, and supercomputers means massive savings in support, development, training, etc.
There will be some diversity between distros in Linux (exactly as much diversity as the most dissatisfied developer desires), but the push for a Linux Standard Base is a move toward monoculture inside the Linux community (for the benefits that I stated above).
The harm isn't from the monoculture, it's from the monopoly. And let's face it, how many OSes do you think Starfleet wants to maintain?
In at least one of the Scandanavian countries, the fines are a percentage of one's wealth or income (I don't know the details of the mechanism). The CEO of one of their more profitable technology companies was caught speeding and had to pay a $100k+ fine! That kind of hurts-all-offenders-equally has a nice feel to it.
WTF!? You get passed by 18-wheelers on your motorcycle. What kind of bizarro universe is that? I ride a 450cc Honda, and 18-wheelers are basically indistinguishable from stationary obstacles.
These memes establish our sense of community identity. Think back to 1950's middle America: Jello-molds, white gloves, slick shit in your hair. Surely those memes (ok, products) were worse than/.'s, but they defined a subset of society. We are "Us to whom all your bases belong". You insensitive clod.
You've highlighted one of the major obstacles to automation (including but not limited to robotics). When the 16yo behind the counter screws-up your order, you will get irritated, and might complain to the manager (unless you went through the drive-through, TFYATDT). We demand an inhuman (literally) level of performance/consistency from automated systems.
About 20,000 Americans are killed every year in automobile accidents. If we introduced automated cars that could get you where you want to go with no human control, and they killed 5,000 people per year, we would be demanding that these things be banned (and the lawsuits would flow like spice). Better isn't good enough; we demand perfect, even in non-mission-critical systems.
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Does that count as an invocation of Godwin's Law, or was it too subtle?
Shhhhh... My company didn't hear the Earth shattering KABOOM. They still employ hundreds of us C++ programmers.
I didn't say that it was "frighteningly gay", I said that it "sounds gay".
We're trying to convince people that Linux is ready for consumer use, and you go and assume that everyone has a compile-farm lying around their house. Thanks for setting back Linux-desktop PR by two years :-)
I dunno, for some reason that explanation sounds gay.
You also seem to have missed the reference about M$ lying and sabotaging during the trial. They showed a video of a computer running Windows. Then they removed IE. Then they tried using the IE-less Windows, and things went badly. However, somebody noticed that the IE-less Windows was (get this) a different machine! Yes, M$ lied and showed (in their videotaped presentation) a different machine that they had deliberately sabotaged so that it ran very badly.
There is almost no room for cries of 'honest mistake'. This is like me filming somebody hitting a brand new Lexus with a hammer, and then cutting to a shot of a crushed Dodge Neon that I bought from a junkyard. Damn those Lexus crumple easily!
That is sort-of my view, except that I don't want to have to look at all of the crap and make my own whitelist/blacklist (kind of defeats the point). The core of my idea is that *you* get to decide who makes these decisions for you. If you object to graphic violence, then find some group that lets all of the porn through, but filters-out the graphic violence, and subscribe to their blacklist.
The domain-name thing is way too inflexible (as you hinted-at). We need people to make these judgement calls.
I am the person to tell them to keep their 'property' off of my 'property' (mindshare and hardware) if they want to restrict my ability to save it for my personal viewing at a later date. I am also the person who decides what software I run and do not run on my computers. The not-run category will include any DRM libraries that I do not approve of, and all of that 'Trust-us Computing' garbage. If the content-providers don't like it, then they can sit in a cave on their trove of property, or try to sell it to the lemmings.
I use Linux exclusively (at home, where I do my shopping). How easy is it for me to use iTunes (not trolling, is it really possible?) Almost all of my music listening is done over the CD player in my car, can I burn iTunes tracks to CD? The rest of my music listening time is on my Linux computer or my wife's RCA Lyra MP3 player. Can I really buy and use songs from iTunes? Can I use any songs from any DRM'd source that is available today? I use MP3's all the time (and Ogg occasionally, but not in the Lyra), so I know that those work.
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3)Profit!
All your base are belong to us
In Soviet Russia everything is the same as in rest of USA hegemony
a Mormon blacklist
a Catholic blacklist
a Mennonite whitelist
a Chicago PTA ratinglist
a Southern Poverty Law Center blacklist
The government isn't going to be good at this. In fact, no single group would be good at this.
Oh yeah, and the protocol should support automatic periodic updates and the ability to subscribe-to/merge multiple lists.
Actually, ActiveX is one word (just don't go looking for it in the OED).
Just so you know, the word is kludge (with a 'k'), and for those under the age of 40, it is pronounced with a long 'u'.
"Trolling trolling trolling trolling trolling trolling TROLLING TROLLING TROLLING...Long-horn!"
That's true, but "traditional Roman Catholic teachings" are not the same as what is in the Bible. The Roman Catholic Church makes Church law as it sees fit; it does not necessarily agree with the Bible. The official position of the Church is something along the lines of "the authors of the Bible were 'inspired' by God, but the words and even concepts came from the human authors".
Therefor, the Pope is not a fundamentalist. If you don't believe me, ask a Catholic (esp. a Jesuit, they are most interested in such distinctions). Disclaimer: IANAC (I am not a Catholic (anymore)).
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :
fundamentalism \fundamentalism\ n.
1. A system of beliefs based on the interpretation of every word in the Bible, both old and new testaments, as literal truth. It is primarily held by a branch of American Protestants. [WordNet 1.5]
2. The beliefs or practises based on a rigid adherence to some traditional doctrine; extreme conservatism; as, Moslem fundamentalism; the political fundamentalism of the Christian right. [PJC] fundamentalist
From WordNet (r) 2.0 :
fundamentalism
n : the interpretation of every word in the sacred texts as literal truth
Taking the Bible to be the exact and inerrant word of God is basically the litmus test for being a Fundamentalist. You obviously didn't come from a Fundamentalist background.
Sorry, most of my dances-with-trucks time is on divided highways (Interstate), so the ones going to opposite direction aren't a factor. On the city surface streets, no one gets to get fast (not even the motorcycles).
While that idea might be more fair, I would personally hate to see it happen (for my own selfish reasons). If they start charging separately, then they are going to cancel any channel that doesn't get enough people to sign up for it. Or they are going to charge a higher price for channels with fewer subscribers. Result: ESPN.* will be 50 cents a month and SciFi, History Channel, TLC, Discovery.*, and NatGeo will be $15 each. If your tastes aren't in line with American norms (and you are on /., after all), then right now your channels are subsidized by viewers who pay for package deals.
There will be some diversity between distros in Linux (exactly as much diversity as the most dissatisfied developer desires), but the push for a Linux Standard Base is a move toward monoculture inside the Linux community (for the benefits that I stated above).
The harm isn't from the monoculture, it's from the monopoly. And let's face it, how many OSes do you think Starfleet wants to maintain?
In at least one of the Scandanavian countries, the fines are a percentage of one's wealth or income (I don't know the details of the mechanism). The CEO of one of their more profitable technology companies was caught speeding and had to pay a $100k+ fine! That kind of hurts-all-offenders-equally has a nice feel to it.
WTF!? You get passed by 18-wheelers on your motorcycle. What kind of bizarro universe is that? I ride a 450cc Honda, and 18-wheelers are basically indistinguishable from stationary obstacles.
Actually, you always had the attention span of a gerbil, the remote control just allows you to fulfill your destiny :-)
These memes establish our sense of community identity. Think back to 1950's middle America: Jello-molds, white gloves, slick shit in your hair. Surely those memes (ok, products) were worse than /.'s, but they defined a subset of society. We are "Us to whom all your bases belong". You insensitive clod.
About 20,000 Americans are killed every year in automobile accidents. If we introduced automated cars that could get you where you want to go with no human control, and they killed 5,000 people per year, we would be demanding that these things be banned (and the lawsuits would flow like spice). Better isn't good enough; we demand perfect, even in non-mission-critical systems.