... plus the fact that VW couldn't make an electrical system to save their lives. My wife's New Beetle is a nightmare from design, reliability, and usability perspectives.
I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would dick around with partitioning a boot drive for Boot Camp and booting back and forth between OSX and MS-OS, when VMware Fusion or even Parallels are cheap and excellent.
The serial console boxes are already long in place by the network types for their Juniper and Cisco gear.
No laptop needed, for me at least. The serial console servers are network accessible and rigorously maintained.
DHCP requires a server -- so should I require another RU of space and a couple thousand bucks just for that? Plus, it's just begging the question -- how would I set up the DHCP server without a console?
You're missing the point. Apple's Bonjour may be "configurationless", but the greater internet isn't. Have all the dedicated switches you like, but the ethernet interface still needs an IP address, a netmask, and a gateway to be configured. Does HP have a telepathic interface for that that they didn't tell me about?
The basic iLO is so featureless as to be not useful.
If the Raritan products are actually *behind* iLO, which is worthless, then they're beyond worthless.
Right. Does iDRAC present a useful interface over a serial console right out of the box? By useful, I mean does it allow one to enter IP configuration for a network service processor interface while still allowing one to interrogate hardware, power the box on/off, and connect to the system/OS console? My understanding is that like HP's (extra charge) iLO this is not the case. Sole reliance on a functional ethernet connection for the service processor doesn't cut it, and neither does relying on the availability of a DHCP server. The Raritan devices look slick, but again, they appear to require a functioning network connection (catch 22!) and are kind of expensive to deploy at sites with one or two systems. They're added rack space, more complexity to try to relate to remote hands who may or may not speak English, and in some locations require an extra switch or media converter (more complexity, cost, and things to break) to cope with fiber-only sites. Plus, tunneling VGA, keyboard, and mouse over the network is a massive kludge, and transoceanic latency makes this approach rather frustrating to use.
From what I can tell, neither Dell nor HP boxes have usable serial consoles. Your hardware is all at a staffed location where you can have someone 24x7 plug in a keyboard and monitor?
The commercial bronze turkeys I cared for back in the day could fly despite being huge. They didn't get more than 20' off the ground, but they could glide well.
Chopping the feet off of live and conscious raccoon-dogs and ripping off their skin, though -- that's A-OK with both the government AND the populace.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3998863333872536083#
"Won't you tell me Mr. Jesus / won't you tell me if you can / when you see the world we live in / do you still believe in Man?"
Progress does not consist of a small group of people enriching themselves at everyone else's expense
Clearly you don't live in King County, WA. 68,000 Microcult/Amazon/etc. millionaires often get special treatment, and MSFT's compensation policies especially are responsible for the skyrocketing of housing prices a few years back. Code monkeys right out of college make $80k+, and I'm stuck in a friggin townhouse.
They've *been* in either a dedicated server or colo arrangement, but as I understand it have decided that they want their own facility. Perhaps someone there believes rightly or otherwise that it will save them $.
Some time ago, back in the Usenet days, I read an account of an interview with a sysadmin. The reporter/journalist asked what sort of computers were on the admin's network, and he replied "Sun 3/60's". The story read that he had a network of IBM 360's.
Are you using a phone or an iPad for that cross-country Wi-Fi? Given today's slim row spacing in coach, the use of laptops seems to be somewhere between inadvisable and impossible. Last time I tried, the carnie in front of me reclined without asking or even warning, catching my open display in the recess for my tray. Damn near broke the thing, and I won't try again. The limited availability of seat power is also a problem.
(FWIW, I took a 2 hour flight today with my 2 year old. Kept him occupied with my wife's iPad playing toddler vids - didn't need wifi or much space.)
Rural areas in many states do indeed tend to have trees -- my last place sure did. I would have had to put up a 40' tower to begin to clear trees, which would continue to get taller while the tower didn't. Many areas already have fiber to them, for the voice network. In my case, Verizon simply couldn't be bothered to drop a DSLAM into the local site.
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... plus the fact that VW couldn't make an electrical system to save their lives. My wife's New Beetle is a nightmare from design, reliability, and usability perspectives.
I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would dick around with partitioning a boot drive for Boot Camp and booting back and forth between OSX and MS-OS, when VMware Fusion or even Parallels are cheap and excellent.
Real unix admins use "op" instead of the inferior "sudo".
The serial console boxes are already long in place by the network types for their Juniper and Cisco gear. No laptop needed, for me at least. The serial console servers are network accessible and rigorously maintained.
DHCP requires a server -- so should I require another RU of space and a couple thousand bucks just for that? Plus, it's just begging the question -- how would I set up the DHCP server without a console?
You're missing the point. Apple's Bonjour may be "configurationless", but the greater internet isn't. Have all the dedicated switches you like, but the ethernet interface still needs an IP address, a netmask, and a gateway to be configured. Does HP have a telepathic interface for that that they didn't tell me about? The basic iLO is so featureless as to be not useful. If the Raritan products are actually *behind* iLO, which is worthless, then they're beyond worthless.
There's another catch-22. I can't install the OS without a working console.
Right. Does iDRAC present a useful interface over a serial console right out of the box? By useful, I mean does it allow one to enter IP configuration for a network service processor interface while still allowing one to interrogate hardware, power the box on/off, and connect to the system/OS console? My understanding is that like HP's (extra charge) iLO this is not the case. Sole reliance on a functional ethernet connection for the service processor doesn't cut it, and neither does relying on the availability of a DHCP server. The Raritan devices look slick, but again, they appear to require a functioning network connection (catch 22!) and are kind of expensive to deploy at sites with one or two systems. They're added rack space, more complexity to try to relate to remote hands who may or may not speak English, and in some locations require an extra switch or media converter (more complexity, cost, and things to break) to cope with fiber-only sites. Plus, tunneling VGA, keyboard, and mouse over the network is a massive kludge, and transoceanic latency makes this approach rather frustrating to use.
From what I can tell, neither Dell nor HP boxes have usable serial consoles. Your hardware is all at a staffed location where you can have someone 24x7 plug in a keyboard and monitor?
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The commercial bronze turkeys I cared for back in the day could fly despite being huge. They didn't get more than 20' off the ground, but they could glide well.
So what you're saying is that EBCDIC is right out.
Hell, even changing the headlights on my wife's New Beetle is an adventure.
Chopping the feet off of live and conscious raccoon-dogs and ripping off their skin, though -- that's A-OK with both the government AND the populace. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3998863333872536083# "Won't you tell me Mr. Jesus / won't you tell me if you can / when you see the world we live in / do you still believe in Man?"
Progress does not consist of a small group of people enriching themselves at everyone else's expense Clearly you don't live in King County, WA. 68,000 Microcult/Amazon/etc. millionaires often get special treatment, and MSFT's compensation policies especially are responsible for the skyrocketing of housing prices a few years back. Code monkeys right out of college make $80k+, and I'm stuck in a friggin townhouse.
Case "modding" is usually a misnomer, as people are generally building a custom enclosure *NOT* MODifying an existing one.
They've *been* in either a dedicated server or colo arrangement, but as I understand it have decided that they want their own facility. Perhaps someone there believes rightly or otherwise that it will save them $.
Clearly you subscribe to a different definition of "text" than I do.
What's the free alternative to ZFS?
Sun hardware offers a usable serial console, even on x86 boxes. HP sure doesn't and I suspect that few or no others do.
I've had a PDP-11/40 drop on my foot -- does that count?
Some time ago, back in the Usenet days, I read an account of an interview with a sysadmin. The reporter/journalist asked what sort of computers were on the admin's network, and he replied "Sun 3/60's". The story read that he had a network of IBM 360's.
MeteorITES are worth money; meteors are rather evanescent.
Are you using a phone or an iPad for that cross-country Wi-Fi? Given today's slim row spacing in coach, the use of laptops seems to be somewhere between inadvisable and impossible. Last time I tried, the carnie in front of me reclined without asking or even warning, catching my open display in the recess for my tray. Damn near broke the thing, and I won't try again. The limited availability of seat power is also a problem. (FWIW, I took a 2 hour flight today with my 2 year old. Kept him occupied with my wife's iPad playing toddler vids - didn't need wifi or much space.)
Rural areas in many states do indeed tend to have trees -- my last place sure did. I would have had to put up a 40' tower to begin to clear trees, which would continue to get taller while the tower didn't. Many areas already have fiber to them, for the voice network. In my case, Verizon simply couldn't be bothered to drop a DSLAM into the local site.