The example you mention is a contract in which you sign away your rights to the legal system. There is a trend in the USA for corporations to try and side step the legal process, generally fair, and steer people into arbitration, generally unfair, which almost always sides with the corporation. Coincidentally the corporations are the ones who pay the arbitration companies, but I digress.
To quote the summary, "which decided that AT&T's service agreement was not capable of waiving a customer's right to file a lawsuit against the company." That's not what we were talking about.
Clickwrap/shrinkwrap/EULA licenses are legal. Please see ProCD v Zidenberg or Blizzard v bnetd. Renting and subscription based software is legal. You don't own anything you rent from Steam.
Assume any contract you sign will be enforced. If they didn't plan on enforcing it they wouldn't put it in a contract and they wouldn't have you sign it. Any other view is ignorant and will get you into trouble.
There's no reason the Steam TOS are not legal:
First once you click accept or agree you have entered into a legally binding contract. This has been decided in US Circuit Court. The case is ProCD v Zidenburg.
Additionally the contract meets none of the legal criteria for unfair contracts. The main reason for this is that it's completely voluntary.
I fail to see why you think enforcement would be difficult. Enforcement is trivial. They turn you off. Done.
Sure it's the only fucking town there is but it's defended by humans. Humans who have the ability to innovate. This means variety and variation. Much better than doing the exact same scripted thing over and over in hopes of maybe getting a reward this time. It makes the doing the reward.
I have a $20 45bD plain jane antenna. Turn no signal into crystal clear signal. Just make sure it has a loop on it. The rabbit ears don't seem to do anything.
This is probably just pedantic but they cannot prevent you from taking pictures. They can ask you to leave but they cannot outlaw or prohibit picture taking.
Look if you don't want to be looked at then don't leave the house. Or wear a shawl, or cap and glasses, or burka. We have no responsibility to not look at you. You entered a public place.
Intentions? Who cares? Intentions can't hurt me. Only actions can. That's why actions are punishable but intentions are not.
By your argument I can kill you next time I see you. You were walking toward me and your intention might have been to kill me so I exercised my legal right to use deadly force in defending myself.
"MS isn't the only guilty party in this, but those bastards certainly made the situation much worse."
Actually MS is the easiest licensing we have at our shop. This should be the case for any shop past a certain size, we're medium sized at best. No activation. No phone home. No dongles. With true licensing, or what ever the fuck they call it we can install any and all MS products. We have codes for all products. Once a year we count up and write the check.
From my point of view it's functionally equivalent to not having licensing.
"They're synthetic canvas, so I imagine they're much worse for the environment, and they look like crap after about 6 months. Walking around with a filthy, scruffy canvas bag is not really... my style."
And that is the problem in a nut shell. People care more about image than about actually doing anything.
"My own opinion is that anything that encourages environmental responsibility and awareness of the true costs involved by all parties is A Good Thing."
That doesn't match with your example of 6-pack rings. The data from trash clean ups at beaches show that 6-pack rings are a null issue. Orders of magnitude more birds die from vehicle and building strikes.
There were some sensational pictures circulated and cutting rings makes people feel like they are doing something without actually having to do something.
These little environmental theater things don't help. But it's all really pointless because the first world is way to fat and happy to really do anything. Especially the States. Cheap gas -> sprawl -> poor mass transit -> car is required.
You may be making things too complex. I still have various keys to campus buildings a decade since I've needed them. They never asked for them back when I quit working there.
My bet is though is that someone took the laptop home to play with and once things hit the media they brought it back.
They KNOW this and UNDERSTAND it because I've never talked to them like anything less than humans. (And yes, they both know why I would LoJack them if I could and BOTH agree that I should if I'm allowed to and haven't a problem with it.)
does not jive with this
They are aged seven and nine,
Any child who requires parenting by definition cannot understand parenting. "Maturity" is simply self parenting. Your children do not agree with you nor do they understand what you are doing. They say these things because it's the only life they've known and it's what you've conditioned them to say. Children don't critically evaluate what their adults/parents say, especially at the ages of your children. This is the basis for the age of majority concept.
I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong. You're free to raise them how you want. Just please don't think they are on board or understand what you're doing. They're children.
I have a whole bike. Hasn't been taken out for 4 seasons. Stored inside. No rust in tank. Needs carbs cleaned, new tires, plugs, chain, and one fork seal. Been meaning to fix it up but haven't had the time.
Ok you're going to need to document the hydro claim. 24-36 million, that's 3-4+ NYCs, on one grid all supplied by hydro? I call BS. Please prove me wrong.
So your positions is fuck it let my kids deal with it? The cars solve nothing. They simply delay. It's the same result as with ICE cars.
I agree cars and power plants are totally different. This is by design and not due to any limitation. Power plants achieve the higher efficiency through heat reclamation. Cars are explicitly designed to throw away the heat. There is no reason you can't design a car engine to reclaim and use heat.
The only reason ICE are inefficient is because we want them that way. We don't want to pay the costs. Everyone except the smallest minority, that "crazy" guy who bikes everywhere and composts his shit, still values convenience over saving the planet. Sure we give it lip service because that's the PC thing to do but we don't do anything about it.
Electric cars are fossil fuel powered cars, with extra pollution from battery manufacturing and disposal. That's not a solution. We still end up at the exact same spot as ICE. The cars are bling, especially with the multiple years average income price tag, and nothing more.
As did you. My point is the cars are dirty. The cars burn fossil fuels. They are not "green". They are not "renewable".
If you can burn oil to produce electricity to load a battery to turn an axle with a given efficiency then you can burn oil to turn an axle more efficiently. That's a simple fact.
Your B comment points out a fatal flaw. B is simple. People lobby. Laws change. For example doing away with fleet average mpgs and using a measure with a bit more teeth. For your statement to be true it means that people don't want clean power or at least don't want it enough to be inconvenienced in any significant way. If the people don't want it then it doesn't matter what you, I, nor Tesla does. We're simply fucked. It's the boom/bust cycle all animals go through. It's nature. We think we're unnatural but we're not.
Wind and solar are insignificant. Oil is used 43 times more than both combined. Fossil fuels in total are used about 100 times more than wind and solar combined. Nuclear in the states is still feared and sees limited use in the States, where these are sold.
Massive roll outs of electric cars will drastically increase grid usage which will require more power generation. This will be done with the cheapest possible means. That's fossil fuels. These things will increase carbon emissions long before they will reduce them.
The cars do nothing for the environment. They falsely make their owner feel as if they are doing something.
To make a difference the grid needs to be cleaned up. That way every single electric item becomes clean with no additional change needed. Then we can move to electric cars. Until then the focus should be on carpooling, efficiency, and a transition back to rail freight. We need more practical solutions and less "Ooo shiney!" ones.
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Not really the same kind of thing.
The example you mention is a contract in which you sign away your rights to the legal system. There is a trend in the USA for corporations to try and side step the legal process, generally fair, and steer people into arbitration, generally unfair, which almost always sides with the corporation. Coincidentally the corporations are the ones who pay the arbitration companies, but I digress.
To quote the summary, "which decided that AT&T's service agreement was not capable of waiving a customer's right to file a lawsuit against the company." That's not what we were talking about.
Clickwrap/shrinkwrap/EULA licenses are legal. Please see ProCD v Zidenberg or Blizzard v bnetd. Renting and subscription based software is legal. You don't own anything you rent from Steam.
Seeing as how Valve and Steam are a USA corporation doing business in the USA. I fail to see how German or EU law is relevant.
Assume any contract you sign will be enforced. If they didn't plan on enforcing it they wouldn't put it in a contract and they wouldn't have you sign it. Any other view is ignorant and will get you into trouble.
There's no reason the Steam TOS are not legal:
First once you click accept or agree you have entered into a legally binding contract. This has been decided in US Circuit Court. The case is ProCD v Zidenburg.
Additionally the contract meets none of the legal criteria for unfair contracts. The main reason for this is that it's completely voluntary.
I fail to see why you think enforcement would be difficult. Enforcement is trivial. They turn you off. Done.
Exactly.
I've been buying games on launch day for as far as I can remember and not once have a paid a $6 premium to do so.
You need to reread your Terms of Service. It's impossible to purchase a game via Steam.
You may subscribe to a game. A subscription which they can revoke at any time. That they can revoke for any or no reason.
The problem with imaginary property is that you only get imaginary ownership.
By human I meant !script.
Sure it's the only fucking town there is but it's defended by humans. Humans who have the ability to innovate. This means variety and variation. Much better than doing the exact same scripted thing over and over in hopes of maybe getting a reward this time. It makes the doing the reward.
I have a $20 45bD plain jane antenna. Turn no signal into crystal clear signal. Just make sure it has a loop on it. The rabbit ears don't seem to do anything.
This is probably just pedantic but they cannot prevent you from taking pictures. They can ask you to leave but they cannot outlaw or prohibit picture taking.
No.
Look if you don't want to be looked at then don't leave the house. Or wear a shawl, or cap and glasses, or burka. We have no responsibility to not look at you. You entered a public place.
Intentions? Who cares? Intentions can't hurt me. Only actions can. That's why actions are punishable but intentions are not.
By your argument I can kill you next time I see you. You were walking toward me and your intention might have been to kill me so I exercised my legal right to use deadly force in defending myself.
"The complaint applies to the version of Windows most people have."
That's nice but not what we are talking about.
Regardless of the accuracy the rest of your post is offtopic fanboi ranting and thus I won't respond to it.
Yes he is. But the complaints he lists at the top don't apply to to MS, which he just throws in at the end.
"MS isn't the only guilty party in this, but those bastards certainly made the situation much worse."
Actually MS is the easiest licensing we have at our shop. This should be the case for any shop past a certain size, we're medium sized at best. No activation. No phone home. No dongles. With true licensing, or what ever the fuck they call it we can install any and all MS products. We have codes for all products. Once a year we count up and write the check.
From my point of view it's functionally equivalent to not having licensing.
"They're synthetic canvas, so I imagine they're much worse for the environment, and they look like crap after about 6 months. Walking around with a filthy, scruffy canvas bag is not really... my style."
And that is the problem in a nut shell. People care more about image than about actually doing anything.
"My own opinion is that anything that encourages environmental responsibility and awareness of the true costs involved by all parties is A Good Thing."
That doesn't match with your example of 6-pack rings. The data from trash clean ups at beaches show that 6-pack rings are a null issue. Orders of magnitude more birds die from vehicle and building strikes.
There were some sensational pictures circulated and cutting rings makes people feel like they are doing something without actually having to do something.
These little environmental theater things don't help. But it's all really pointless because the first world is way to fat and happy to really do anything. Especially the States. Cheap gas -> sprawl -> poor mass transit -> car is required.
You may be making things too complex. I still have various keys to campus buildings a decade since I've needed them. They never asked for them back when I quit working there.
My bet is though is that someone took the laptop home to play with and once things hit the media they brought it back.
What? The infidelity is to blame not the person exposing the infidelity.
No it's not. Way before 9/11 it wasn't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search
This
They KNOW this and UNDERSTAND it because I've never talked to them like anything less than humans. (And yes, they both know why I would LoJack them if I could and BOTH agree that I should if I'm allowed to and haven't a problem with it.)
does not jive with this
They are aged seven and nine,
Any child who requires parenting by definition cannot understand parenting. "Maturity" is simply self parenting. Your children do not agree with you nor do they understand what you are doing. They say these things because it's the only life they've known and it's what you've conditioned them to say. Children don't critically evaluate what their adults/parents say, especially at the ages of your children. This is the basis for the age of majority concept.
I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong. You're free to raise them how you want. Just please don't think they are on board or understand what you're doing. They're children.
Kind of. It's cracked though.
I have a whole bike. Hasn't been taken out for 4 seasons. Stored inside. No rust in tank. Needs carbs cleaned, new tires, plugs, chain, and one fork seal. Been meaning to fix it up but haven't had the time.
I haven't checked out SOHC4 yet.
I have one in wineberry.
Ok you're going to need to document the hydro claim. 24-36 million, that's 3-4+ NYCs, on one grid all supplied by hydro? I call BS. Please prove me wrong.
So your positions is fuck it let my kids deal with it? The cars solve nothing. They simply delay. It's the same result as with ICE cars.
It has to be true. Otherwise physics breaks.
I agree cars and power plants are totally different. This is by design and not due to any limitation. Power plants achieve the higher efficiency through heat reclamation. Cars are explicitly designed to throw away the heat. There is no reason you can't design a car engine to reclaim and use heat.
The only reason ICE are inefficient is because we want them that way. We don't want to pay the costs. Everyone except the smallest minority, that "crazy" guy who bikes everywhere and composts his shit, still values convenience over saving the planet. Sure we give it lip service because that's the PC thing to do but we don't do anything about it.
Electric cars are fossil fuel powered cars, with extra pollution from battery manufacturing and disposal. That's not a solution. We still end up at the exact same spot as ICE. The cars are bling, especially with the multiple years average income price tag, and nothing more.
As did you. My point is the cars are dirty. The cars burn fossil fuels. They are not "green". They are not "renewable".
If you can burn oil to produce electricity to load a battery to turn an axle with a given efficiency then you can burn oil to turn an axle more efficiently. That's a simple fact.
Your B comment points out a fatal flaw. B is simple. People lobby. Laws change. For example doing away with fleet average mpgs and using a measure with a bit more teeth. For your statement to be true it means that people don't want clean power or at least don't want it enough to be inconvenienced in any significant way. If the people don't want it then it doesn't matter what you, I, nor Tesla does. We're simply fucked. It's the boom/bust cycle all animals go through. It's nature. We think we're unnatural but we're not.
Wind and solar are insignificant. Oil is used 43 times more than both combined. Fossil fuels in total are used about 100 times more than wind and solar combined. Nuclear in the states is still feared and sees limited use in the States, where these are sold.
Massive roll outs of electric cars will drastically increase grid usage which will require more power generation. This will be done with the cheapest possible means. That's fossil fuels. These things will increase carbon emissions long before they will reduce them.
The cars do nothing for the environment. They falsely make their owner feel as if they are doing something.
To make a difference the grid needs to be cleaned up. That way every single electric item becomes clean with no additional change needed. Then we can move to electric cars. Until then the focus should be on carpooling, efficiency, and a transition back to rail freight. We need more practical solutions and less "Ooo shiney!" ones.