While I have used my fair share of IBM software produts that made me want to scream, it needs to be pointed out that the operating system for the as400 is one of the best business server OS's produced (object based, organization, stability, security, scalability, abstraction from hardware, etc. etc.)
You can't effectively compare 2 systems with possibly millions of individual attributes, with 1 word. One system may be able to add numbers faster, the other might tell funny jokes, etc. etc. Does "better" mean better in all ways measured? Does "better" mean better based on a weighted scoring of those attributes? Whatever the method, there will be alternate methods that potentially produce the opposite score.
Not only is your post accurate, at the risk of stealing some of your thunder, it's not even news. My question, why are people still wondering why few CIO's become CEO's?
Just to add to the parent post: COBOL and RPG are both simple languages that happen to fit the domain of transaction oriented and batch processing for business applications. These apps typically don't require advanced data structures and OO techniques to reduce complexity or increase manageability of the system. Typically a business transaction follows a relatively sequential process of conditionals and setting status/adding/subtracting value/storing new info, lather, rinse and repeat. These languages include operations designed for this basic movement of data, in and out of the DB, between work areas, and decimal math operations. The additional functionality in other languages typically doesn't add much value in this arena.
"I just went through the IBM site and it seems their shipping architecture is Power5+ at about 2.0 to 2.5? Ghz"
That is correct, they said the servers would ship mid 2007. When I said "production" I was referring to "producing" the chips as opposed to still being in design phase.
I tend to be skeptical of tech press releases also, but given IBM's track record in the last five years regarding server/server processor announcements, I would be surprised if they don't hit this.
As for Intel's 80 core cpu, they did say "in 5 years", but I'm with you, that's a long time in the tech world, who knows what will be happening. But I think everyone would agree that there are applications for large numbers of cores.
Last stats I saw IBM was winning in the Unix/Linux server market. I have not seen stats since the release of Niagra, which appears to be a nice CPU for multi-process/multi-threaded environments. Do you have sales/market share stats to support your statement?
The chips are already in production, this is the very end of the cycle on these. Keep in mind that while many seem to relate this to PPC, this is really the POWER line targeting servers and IBM has been traditionally pretty accurate with their statements regarding POWER4, POWER5, POWER5+ in the past.
"We have all the rights to expect them to get it right."
Not really. It's their movie and their goal is to get as many people as possible to come see the movie so they can make a profit. One way they do that is by simplifying all kinds of things so the story can get told in about 1.5 to 2 hours.
If the repeater decrypts and then re-encrypts the message for further transmission then you can extend the range. Clearly that opens up the problem of tapping into the repeater, but with good physical security it's better than nothing.
"one could technically define a set of numbers which includes +=infinity"
Technically you could not do this. Remember, infinity is not a number, it is a concept meaning an unbounded limit. There are rules for including it in algebraic equations, but it is still not a "number."
When I saw that some guy named "Cuban" was going to try to duplicate and compete with Trump's show I had the following thoughts:
1) Why does this person think he can compete with Trump in this entertainment venture when he has zero "mindshare" associated with his name compared to Trump?
2) Why would we want 2 shows like the apprentice?
My conclusion was that he must have an ego that was clouding his judgement on that particular deal.
A non-ego driven approach would have been to fund a show that is hosted by an already popular and interesting personality.
IMO, all non-x86 are too small market share to make a long term difference (probably). Whether Sun's procs are good or bad, I just don't see a server proc becoming a mass market standard like x86. Consumer's and volume is where it's at. IBM probably has the best chance at staying relevant due to cell and the fact it is targetted at high volume consumer electronics.
Non-verbal communication is important as you state, however, the ability to send a message is not what makes AI intelligent.
The ability to understand context and construct the appropriate message, whether sent by text, voice or non-verbal methods, is what's important.
For an AI to have everyday inttelligence, it must interact with the environment the same way we do. It must get sensory feedback the same way we do and relate that feedback to it's attempts at problem solving etc. Only then will it be able to make intelligent conclusions as we do.
Summary:
1) Intelligence requires mechanisms completely unrelated to the method of communications.
2) Once intelligence is achieved, then to fool a human, non-verbal is important.
While Jones's transformer gets installed, don't forget that my blog is directly connected to the grid so we pretty much never have a power loss.
Today I mostly covered the resolution of the piece of cheesy-poof that was stuck between the letters Z and X on my keyboard (those that have been reading my blog know the entire tale). Well, to summarize, I spilled a little diet coke in that same area just this morning, the food soaked it up, and voila, out it popped.
Anyway, check it out, it's at www.foopy-seech.net
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While I have used my fair share of IBM software produts that made me want to scream, it needs to be pointed out that the operating system for the as400 is one of the best business server OS's produced (object based, organization, stability, security, scalability, abstraction from hardware, etc. etc.)
Would you consider SAP an application? Or any other ERP system? I would.
Because vancouver is just across the river from portland, it's easier just to call it portland. You did mean that vancouver didn't you?
You can't effectively compare 2 systems with possibly millions of individual attributes, with 1 word. One system may be able to add numbers faster, the other might tell funny jokes, etc. etc. Does "better" mean better in all ways measured? Does "better" mean better based on a weighted scoring of those attributes? Whatever the method, there will be alternate methods that potentially produce the opposite score.
Always selling!
"if you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Not only is your post accurate, at the risk of stealing some of your thunder, it's not even news. My question, why are people still wondering why few CIO's become CEO's?
Let's not be too hasty, DRM may be the only thing protecting us from K-Fed.
Just to add to the parent post: COBOL and RPG are both simple languages that happen to fit the domain of transaction oriented and batch processing for business applications. These apps typically don't require advanced data structures and OO techniques to reduce complexity or increase manageability of the system. Typically a business transaction follows a relatively sequential process of conditionals and setting status/adding/subtracting value/storing new info, lather, rinse and repeat. These languages include operations designed for this basic movement of data, in and out of the DB, between work areas, and decimal math operations. The additional functionality in other languages typically doesn't add much value in this arena.
"I just went through the IBM site and it seems their shipping architecture is Power5+ at about 2.0 to 2.5? Ghz"
That is correct, they said the servers would ship mid 2007. When I said "production" I was referring to "producing" the chips as opposed to still being in design phase.
I tend to be skeptical of tech press releases also, but given IBM's track record in the last five years regarding server/server processor announcements, I would be surprised if they don't hit this.
As for Intel's 80 core cpu, they did say "in 5 years", but I'm with you, that's a long time in the tech world, who knows what will be happening. But I think everyone would agree that there are applications for large numbers of cores.
4 core POWER5+ pServer running Linux is $5,500
Last stats I saw IBM was winning in the Unix/Linux server market. I have not seen stats since the release of Niagra, which appears to be a nice CPU for multi-process/multi-threaded environments. Do you have sales/market share stats to support your statement?
The chips are already in production, this is the very end of the cycle on these. Keep in mind that while many seem to relate this to PPC, this is really the POWER line targeting servers and IBM has been traditionally pretty accurate with their statements regarding POWER4, POWER5, POWER5+ in the past.
"We have all the rights to expect them to get it right."
Not really. It's their movie and their goal is to get as many people as possible to come see the movie so they can make a profit. One way they do that is by simplifying all kinds of things so the story can get told in about 1.5 to 2 hours.
If the repeater decrypts and then re-encrypts the message for further transmission then you can extend the range. Clearly that opens up the problem of tapping into the repeater, but with good physical security it's better than nothing.
"one could technically define a set of numbers which includes +=infinity"
Technically you could not do this. Remember, infinity is not a number, it is a concept meaning an unbounded limit. There are rules for including it in algebraic equations, but it is still not a "number."
When I saw that some guy named "Cuban" was going to try to duplicate and compete with Trump's show I had the following thoughts:
1) Why does this person think he can compete with Trump in this entertainment venture when he has zero "mindshare" associated with his name compared to Trump?
2) Why would we want 2 shows like the apprentice?
My conclusion was that he must have an ego that was clouding his judgement on that particular deal.
A non-ego driven approach would have been to fund a show that is hosted by an already popular and interesting personality.
Just my opinion.
Lots of funny stuff on slashdot, but that one really made me laugh, good job.
Wasn't that some product from a few years ago? I can't even remember what it did.
Precisely.
IMO, all non-x86 are too small market share to make a long term difference (probably). Whether Sun's procs are good or bad, I just don't see a server proc becoming a mass market standard like x86. Consumer's and volume is where it's at. IBM probably has the best chance at staying relevant due to cell and the fact it is targetted at high volume consumer electronics.
Non-verbal communication is important as you state, however, the ability to send a message is not what makes AI intelligent.
The ability to understand context and construct the appropriate message, whether sent by text, voice or non-verbal methods, is what's important.
For an AI to have everyday inttelligence, it must interact with the environment the same way we do. It must get sensory feedback the same way we do and relate that feedback to it's attempts at problem solving etc. Only then will it be able to make intelligent conclusions as we do.
Summary:
1) Intelligence requires mechanisms completely unrelated to the method of communications.
2) Once intelligence is achieved, then to fool a human, non-verbal is important.
And the cell design began 2 years before the niagara began.
While Jones's transformer gets installed, don't forget that my blog is directly connected to the grid so we pretty much never have a power loss. Today I mostly covered the resolution of the piece of cheesy-poof that was stuck between the letters Z and X on my keyboard (those that have been reading my blog know the entire tale). Well, to summarize, I spilled a little diet coke in that same area just this morning, the food soaked it up, and voila, out it popped. Anyway, check it out, it's at www.foopy-seech.net
With over 1 billion people, if every chinese did their part, there's no way the rest of the world could keep up with their entries into Wikipedia.