So if there's something I frequently use, I should add it to the quick access bar? Why not just leave the toolbar? You haven't made any argument for why we need a ribbon in explorer. Basically, your post boils down to whining about people whining.
What does the fact that it comes from Microsoft have to do with anything? People on here complain about bad UI period. Barrels of digital ink have been spilled on here about the abortions of Ubuntus unity gnome 3 kde4 Firefox , etc. Microsoft doesn't get a pass. Why are you do sensitive ?
You don't really think facts and rational thought are welcome here do you? This is Slashdot, we'd much rather go for the easy populist +1 by criticising every little thing whether it actually improves our lives. After all, what you propose amount to change. And we can't have that now can we?
What about the people that are going to be running ARM tablets? The browsers on those use the same rendering engines as the desktop counterparts, i.e., Webkit, Gecko, and Trident. And the javascript engines are the same as well. We need those engines to be as efficient as possible to eek out better and better battery life. Obviously, this benefits smartphones as well. The entire world doesn't revolve around the desktop.
I have a several years old Thinkpad R60 with a T7200 core2duo in it running Ubuntu 11.04 and eclipse/pydev is very fast. Maybe you are having a hardware issue.
So you hate Android. Who cares? You shove it in everybody's face everytime you get a good excuse. If we all sign a petition agreeing that you hate Android, will you please just go away?
Is Netflix going to develop another app? No.. they are going to continue to develop the same app, and port it to more platforms.
Netflix is more than welcome to throw money down the windows phone shithole. They can pay developers to write stuff for a flop platform and lose money on it. I won't.
If you want to keep grinding out small profits for low-demand applications thats your business.
Ha Ha. Observe how the intellectually deficient go straight for the strawman. You are laughable.
..and are you really this self-involved?
Er, I was just giving my perspective, stupid. I'm not an arrogant prick like you that thinks he can speak for all developers.
I'll just keep writing code for viable platforms like iOS and Android instead of wasting time fiddling around with a flop like wp7 with its whopping 1 percent market share worldwide. In seriousness, why would I spend 1 minute of dev time porting to windows phone when I can use that precious time to write more apps for the successful platforms?
Real Android tablets have only been out for 6 months and they make money for their manufacturers. Some have said Android tablets make up something like 20 percent of the market. In what way is that a spectacular failure?
How would you define success as it relates to windows phone 7? Apple is successful in making money with iOS and Android is successful in market share and ad revenue for Google. How is wp7 successful?
and apart from iOS the only system with strong design behind it is WP7.
I see you are impressed by cheap ui parlor tricks. Fortunately, some people
aren't.
2) With Google buying a hardware company, Microsoft is well positioned to say "WP7 is the only OS you can use where the OS designer is not competing with you".
And the OEMs will see through the smokescreen. The MicroNokia partnership does not a fair windows phone playing field make.
3) Nokia WP7 phones starting to come online soon.
I have yet to hear one single person in real life say they give a shit about Nokia windows phones. This fiction that Nokia is going to save windows phone is pure fanboy talking point. If people were that wedded to Nokia, their market share wouldn't be in the gutter now.
There's a very real possibility WP7 could start cutting in to Android marketshare before too long...
based on what? This nonsense you've posted? Ha!
Android has never been in a better position than it is in right now. The OEMs know google is serious with 25,000 patents, 600,000 activations daily, steadily climbing market share. You need to wake up, man.
Actually, I don't think Android is the way to go. One thing Apple got right was using c/c++/objective c, instead of managed code and a runtime. That decision alone was going to provide at least double battery life.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 gets within 30 minutes of the battery life of the iPad 2 and it exceeds the iPad 1.
Dalvik doesn't infringe Oracle's patents - it just sucks cpu cycles, same as any other interpreted environment, compared to native code.
Dalvik does not interpret. The Java is compiled to bytecode. Furthermore, Android applications can be written in C/C++ if you really want to. The reason you don't is Android allows you to target multiple architectures rather than just compiling for ARM. The breadth of development talent pool by using the Java language is a bonus.
HP makes a Windows 7 "slate" that will run Office just fine and can be docked perfectly well. They don't even bother to offer it to consumers because they already know it will fail. Acer (or Asus) has a windows 7 tablet, the w500 or something. It is getting raped in the marketplace by the iPad. I think you are overestimating how much people care about running that stuff on their tablets.
Strictly speaking from tomhudson's description, yes it has. She didn't specify a touch centric ui in tablet mode and whether a keyboard is detachable or separate is a technicality.
But, in my opinion, here is the real dilemma for Microsoft. Lets take the x86 tablets first. People are going to get these Windows 8 tablets and marvel at the desktop/tablet hybrid then they are going to install their legacy applications. They'll install iTunes, Photoshop, Chrome, quicken, bonzi buddy, etc. And they'll work great in desktop mode but that won't be good enough. They'll try to use them in tablet mode because no matter how many tablet media players, photo editors, etc. It will be a good while before they are as polished and mature as the old standbys. So people will inevitably try to use their old apps in tablet mode and get frustrated. Windows 8 gets a bad reputation as a tablet OS and joins it's predecessors in the long line of Windows tablet failure. As far as windows 8 on ARM goes, it will bomb because people will just buy the x86 version to run those legacy applications. It will be a vicious cycle that will leave people running to iPads for the by then even more mature touch centric ecosystem and windows for their laptop and desktops. Of course that's just my opinion and this was typed on an iPad.
Capacitive multi-touch hi-res wide viewing angle screen is much easier for catalog navigtion. Longer battery life. Lighter weight. Integrated GPS and Google Maps navigation is a godsend for sales staff. Tablets are more visually impressive than staid old netbook. Can stand and use tablet. Always on device for catalog auto-updating, email, alerts, etc. Employees already have laptops. They can use them if they want. For some reason they don't.
Then how come so many people buy them and then they just fall out of sight?
Considering the popularity of these devices, that is an extraordinary claim. What evidence do you have to back it up?
What I described needed significant advances in hardware to actually be useable.
No hardware advance can make up for the lack of touch based software in the windows ecosystem.
One of my friends, who is far from being a geek (he won't even buy a cell phone) just bought a real tablet computer, complete with touchscreen, detachable keyboard and stylus, and he loves it. He would never buy an iPad or even an android-based tablet computer. He wants to be able to run "real software."
Cool story, "sis".:)
" Just like the majority of the population (or they wouldn't own a laptop or desktop in the first place, right?)
Almost every single person with a tablet also own a laptop. The use cases overlap in some ways but diverge in other significant ways thus the brisk sales of iPads.
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So if there's something I frequently use, I should add it to the quick access bar? Why not just leave the toolbar? You haven't made any argument for why we need a ribbon in explorer. Basically, your post boils down to whining about people whining.
What does the fact that it comes from Microsoft have to do with anything? People on here complain about bad UI period. Barrels of digital ink have been spilled on here about the abortions of Ubuntus unity gnome 3 kde4 Firefox , etc. Microsoft doesn't get a pass. Why are you do sensitive ?
You don't really think facts and rational thought are welcome here do you? This is Slashdot, we'd much rather go for the easy populist +1 by criticising every little thing whether it actually improves our lives. After all, what you propose amount to change. And we can't have that now can we?
What about the people that are going to be running ARM tablets? The browsers on those use the same rendering engines as the desktop counterparts, i.e., Webkit, Gecko, and Trident. And the javascript engines are the same as well. We need those engines to be as efficient as possible to eek out better and better battery life. Obviously, this benefits smartphones as well. The entire world doesn't revolve around the desktop.
I have a several years old Thinkpad R60 with a T7200 core2duo in it running Ubuntu 11.04 and eclipse/pydev is very fast. Maybe you are having a hardware issue.
Could they maybe put this in my chair? I don't think putting it in my shoes would do very much good.
It's called a file manager.
So you hate Android. Who cares? You shove it in everybody's face everytime you get a good excuse. If we all sign a petition agreeing that you hate Android, will you please just go away?
Is Netflix going to develop another app? No.. they are going to continue to develop the same app, and port it to more platforms.
Netflix is more than welcome to throw money down the windows phone shithole. They can pay developers to write stuff for a flop platform and lose money on it. I won't.
If you want to keep grinding out small profits for low-demand applications thats your business.
Ha Ha. Observe how the intellectually deficient go straight for the strawman. You are laughable.
..and are you really this self-involved?
Er, I was just giving my perspective, stupid. I'm not an arrogant prick like you that thinks he can speak for all developers.
You are the Google shill
Take off the tin-foil hat. You look ridiculous.
Yeah, except for the fact that OS X has a much higher install base than windows phone could ever hope to have.
I'll just keep writing code for viable platforms like iOS and Android instead of wasting time fiddling around with a flop like wp7 with its whopping 1 percent market share worldwide. In seriousness, why would I spend 1 minute of dev time porting to windows phone when I can use that precious time to write more apps for the successful platforms?
Real Android tablets have only been out for 6 months and they make money for their manufacturers. Some have said Android tablets make up something like 20 percent of the market. In what way is that a spectacular failure?
yeah sure, buddy, whatever you say.
How would you define success as it relates to windows phone 7? Apple is successful in making money with iOS and Android is successful in market share and ad revenue for Google. How is wp7 successful?
I'm only here to tell you what will happen; you are of course free to carry on blissfully ignorant of larger currents beneath you.
See this.
My understanding was that it was laggy on the touchpad and suffered from lackluster hardware both in design and performance on the phones.
and apart from iOS the only system with strong design behind it is WP7.
I see you are impressed by cheap ui parlor tricks. Fortunately, some people aren't.
2) With Google buying a hardware company, Microsoft is well positioned to say "WP7 is the only OS you can use where the OS designer is not competing with you".
And the OEMs will see through the smokescreen. The MicroNokia partnership does not a fair windows phone playing field make.
3) Nokia WP7 phones starting to come online soon.
I have yet to hear one single person in real life say they give a shit about Nokia windows phones. This fiction that Nokia is going to save windows phone is pure fanboy talking point. If people were that wedded to Nokia, their market share wouldn't be in the gutter now.
There's a very real possibility WP7 could start cutting in to Android marketshare before too long...
based on what? This nonsense you've posted? Ha!
Android has never been in a better position than it is in right now. The OEMs know google is serious with 25,000 patents, 600,000 activations daily, steadily climbing market share. You need to wake up, man.
If they lower the price on boxed copies of Windows, what stick will they be able to use on the OEM's to keep them in line?
Do you have proof of this or did you pull it from your iOrifice?
Actually, I don't think Android is the way to go. One thing Apple got right was using c/c++/objective c, instead of managed code and a runtime. That decision alone was going to provide at least double battery life.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 gets within 30 minutes of the battery life of the iPad 2 and it exceeds the iPad 1.
Dalvik doesn't infringe Oracle's patents - it just sucks cpu cycles, same as any other interpreted environment, compared to native code.
Dalvik does not interpret. The Java is compiled to bytecode. Furthermore, Android applications can be written in C/C++ if you really want to. The reason you don't is Android allows you to target multiple architectures rather than just compiling for ARM. The breadth of development talent pool by using the Java language is a bonus.
HP makes a Windows 7 "slate" that will run Office just fine and can be docked perfectly well. They don't even bother to offer it to consumers because they already know it will fail. Acer (or Asus) has a windows 7 tablet, the w500 or something. It is getting raped in the marketplace by the iPad. I think you are overestimating how much people care about running that stuff on their tablets.
Not really, no
Strictly speaking from tomhudson's description, yes it has. She didn't specify a touch centric ui in tablet mode and whether a keyboard is detachable or separate is a technicality.
But, in my opinion, here is the real dilemma for Microsoft. Lets take the x86 tablets first. People are going to get these Windows 8 tablets and marvel at the desktop/tablet hybrid then they are going to install their legacy applications. They'll install iTunes, Photoshop, Chrome, quicken, bonzi buddy, etc. And they'll work great in desktop mode but that won't be good enough. They'll try to use them in tablet mode because no matter how many tablet media players, photo editors, etc. It will be a good while before they are as polished and mature as the old standbys. So people will inevitably try to use their old apps in tablet mode and get frustrated. Windows 8 gets a bad reputation as a tablet OS and joins it's predecessors in the long line of Windows tablet failure. As far as windows 8 on ARM goes, it will bomb because people will just buy the x86 version to run those legacy applications. It will be a vicious cycle that will leave people running to iPads for the by then even more mature touch centric ecosystem and windows for their laptop and desktops. Of course that's just my opinion and this was typed on an iPad.
Capacitive multi-touch hi-res wide viewing angle screen is much easier for catalog navigtion. Longer battery life. Lighter weight. Integrated GPS and Google Maps navigation is a godsend for sales staff. Tablets are more visually impressive than staid old netbook. Can stand and use tablet. Always on device for catalog auto-updating, email, alerts, etc. Employees already have laptops. They can use them if they want. For some reason they don't.
Then how come so many people buy them and then they just fall out of sight?
Considering the popularity of these devices, that is an extraordinary claim. What evidence do you have to back it up?
What I described needed significant advances in hardware to actually be useable.
No hardware advance can make up for the lack of touch based software in the windows ecosystem.
One of my friends, who is far from being a geek (he won't even buy a cell phone) just bought a real tablet computer, complete with touchscreen, detachable keyboard and stylus, and he loves it. He would never buy an iPad or even an android-based tablet computer. He wants to be able to run "real software."
Cool story, "sis". :)
" Just like the majority of the population (or they wouldn't own a laptop or desktop in the first place, right?)
Almost every single person with a tablet also own a laptop. The use cases overlap in some ways but diverge in other significant ways thus the brisk sales of iPads.
Whatever. Party on, dude