How were they able to access/monitor other users data and verify it?
Were they using entrapment to cut in on these kids?
(ps how fast in INETv.2, because this one day, i d/l'ed knoppix from this german site, and i accidently clicked twice, and i got those 1400megs in 10 seconds flat. It was so scary I clicked again.)
Simple Math proves how this is impossible with humans working, and nearly impossible with computers.
Lets say 1 person uses the internet, and this person spends 2 hours a day on the internet (email, browsing, whatevering)
It would require the police >2 manhours to understand what was going on and itemize those 2 hours of internet usage. In addition if branches were found(other suspects of interest), it would require another >2 manhours of work.
Multiplying this by the number of days in a year, and it can been seen as quite the impossible task.
Even programming a computer to automagikally scoure the entire 10 year database would pop up 10000's of hits on a name, and the policec have to investigate the likely ones. Again even if 1% of all the traffic was deemed "interesting" you are still talking greater complexity than can be handled by traditional methods.
Forced by econmies of scale, in this case, the more cases, the more expensive it becomes to processes.
Won't last, Already when people talk about terabyte drives, they are capapable of storing (YEARS?) of audio, which no person could listen too. Ever. Just like all the books in the NY public library, too many books. Too many books.
BUT IBM is seeing what is wrong with the situation, and is trying to turn it around, The Grinch too once had a shriveled heart, but it grew 3(4?) sizes to large when the people from Whoville gave him their love.
OpenSource is Whoville, IBM is the Grinch, Give it some love, we can still go up to that cave and burn IBM out of its cavern if need be.
emp is disabled by any sort of metallic shielding around the outside of electronics, this is called a faraday cage, and to be 100% effective no part of the electronic can be exposed to the outside EM field,
due to the skin effect, the potential difference between the skin on the outside(the cage in this case) is equal to the potential differnce inside the cage, both are zero.
emp is easy to defeat if you enclose something in metal(tinfoil anyone?) but hardening electronics is something different entirely, and explains why the shuttle still uses computers from 1980's
" The benefits are small. The energy needed to shift a payload from the bottom to the top remains the same with or without the structure. The amount of money and energy spent on building the structure needs to be recovered in improved efficiency, and that seems unlikely.
All of the investment is up front. There is no incremental benefit to this - the elevator does not become useful until it's complete. Any return on investment (including to governments in the form of kudos or re-election benefit) is delayed until long after completion of the project."
WHAT is wrong with slashdot???!?!?!?
where are all these retards coming from???
"The benefits are small...."
what are you smoking?
Launching a rocket.... REQUIRES you to move the FUEL as well as the ROCKET, hence requireing more ENERGY.
Force=mass*acceleration
more mass means more force for the same acceleration to occur.
That's why the rockets are so dammed big, and have such powerful reaction rocket turbines.
This is a Fuge Step, at 400$ a pound it divides the cost of a rocket per pound into 50. (rockets cost about 20,000$ a pound..)
that is because of the weight of the rope, the rope is pulled back to earth, increasing the tension, this cable stretches over the GEP or whatever, so the forces acting on it are balanced, the pull of the earth and the centripital acceleartion equal out, therefore the cable weighs nothing (weight is a measure of force afterall), but still masses a considerable amount. ( (pi)*(r^2)*(h)*density of material = mass
THIS space elevetor would be the frigging station. one would move up materials and then deploy the materials up in space.
From an energy point it is much more efficient, by a factor of 20000:400 or 50 for those of you who dont like numbers. the cost goes down from 20,000$ a POUND to 400$/pd
looks like you dont need to lose any weight to get up into space then....
AND who is going to live in this space station their ENTIRE LIFE because once you go into space and stop exercising, YOU DONT COME BACK DOWN ON PAIN OF DEATH. your body loses its terrestrial adaptations, and cannot gain them back.
something able to take the tensil strength of holding up an orbital station against the rotational forceof the eart should be able to stand a measly 100 mile an hour wind.
also, this cable would not be that thick, i can do some calculations tommorow morning and post them or just cite something off the net/
im sorry but if you would please read up on your history of chemistry?
Urea was discovered by Hilaire Rouelle in 1773. It was the first organic compound to be artificially synthesized from inorganic starting materials, in 1828 by Friedrich Woehler, who prepared it by the reaction of potassium cyanate with ammonium sulfate. This disproved the theory that the chemicals of living organisms are fundamentally different from inanimate matter and started the discipline of organic chemistry.
Science has no laws, there are only theories, theories which can be disproved.
If a very unlikely occurrance were to happen tommorow, (lets say you were floating) then the theory of gravity might be wrong, I don't really know what would consititute a violation of the theory of gravity
G=g m1 m2 / r^2
And supposing that life could not come from non-life there is still the spore theory, and it could have been happening forever.
Supposing life could come from non life will be a much more realistic fact if on some distant planet (europa, Titan, mars, venus) some organism showing the characteristics of life was found.
In addition, I have a question to ask you, why would "God" decide to put Archea that live 4.5 km below the earths surface into existence. Or the Platypus, that one is just a big old puzzle for me.
what i ment to say is that a very similar joke/factsheet about the US congress exists, and either both are true, or one is face, or both are true, but both being true is unlikely.
It's a good thing to stand up for what you believe in. It works out for the best, especially here in Canada where there are fewer people, so your vote counts just a bit more.
From the article: "NASA officials said the possibility of cutting Voyager and several other long-running missions in the Earth-Sun Exploration Division arose in February, when the Bush administration proposed slashing the division's 2006 budget by nearly one-third -- from $75 million to $53 million."
try again, bush is supportive of the "I love space and support it because the common people like space" NOT the "scientists are finding new things about the universe and i applaud their efforts, and understand they need constant funding for basic research"
we all know that the diamond industry artificially inflates the prices on diamonds, so either using those "surplus" diamonds, or through thin film diamond manufaturation (which btw is better in low/no gravity)...... COAT the suits and lenses! problem solved!
sure you have to wash off the dust, but it wont be rubbing anyone the wrong way after that.
ps. if a baby was born blind, and this was an option for the baby to see (before the developmental limitation on vision), wouldn't you want the bionic baby in your home?
19 year old son talking to his father.
"hey son, quit looking through those girls clothes!"
yes you could make this work, so long as the human brain is getting input it will try and make sense of it all.
or You just get the glasses to record that stuff and send it to the chip, having the chip in many modes, one where it accepts the higher UV frequencies only, and translates their patterns down into the visible wavelength, while removing/not_count/throw_away all the information in the visible spectrum in that mode. devoid of imput your brain would interpret.
same thing for Infared spectrum, but then the wavelength would have to go up up.
if the modes were combined it will likely by somewhat like synthanasia is my guess, i cannot think of any other way for it to work, after all, all the colours are already taken up!
pretty much ya, my university got owned the other day. Some dude patched into the school library wireless and uploaded into all of the computers some worm. For the most part the boxes were using IE with those dumb windows services turned on, and the thing propogated into the computer design labs.(which i was using at the time).
Not fun.
and one year, the engineers broke the wifi signals used in the lecture speakers(they are transmitted to wirelessly around the room) they just ended up playing fart noises and stuff over and over.
the proceedings are not secret, the press were allowed in.
the press are NOT allowed, however to publish on the material being presented at the inquiry for fear of biasing the public and stopping this man from getting a fair trial..
free speech isn't an issue here IMO because the information presented at the inquiriry can be brought to light once the trial is under way...
it's not like all the information is getting covered up, it is just getting delayed for a short time.
Slashdot Mirror
How did they get into the network?
How were they able to access/monitor other users data and verify it?
Were they using entrapment to cut in on these kids?
(ps how fast in INETv.2, because this one day, i d/l'ed knoppix from this german site, and i accidently clicked twice, and i got those 1400megs in 10 seconds flat. It was so scary I clicked again.)
Glad I live in Canada
Simple Math proves how this is impossible with humans working, and nearly impossible with computers.
Lets say 1 person uses the internet, and this person spends 2 hours a day on the internet (email, browsing, whatevering)
It would require the police >2 manhours to understand what was going on and itemize those 2 hours of internet usage. In addition if branches were found(other suspects of interest), it would require another >2 manhours of work.
Multiplying this by the number of days in a year, and it can been seen as quite the impossible task.
Even programming a computer to automagikally scoure the entire 10 year database would pop up 10000's of hits on a name, and the policec have to investigate the likely ones. Again even if 1% of all the traffic was deemed "interesting" you are still talking greater complexity than can be handled by traditional methods.
Forced by econmies of scale, in this case, the more cases, the more expensive it becomes to processes.
Won't last, Already when people talk about terabyte drives, they are capapable of storing (YEARS?) of audio, which no person could listen too. Ever. Just like all the books in the NY public library, too many books. Too many books.
Too much content to read folks
BUT IBM is seeing what is wrong with the situation, and is trying to turn it around, The Grinch too once had a shriveled heart, but it grew 3(4?) sizes to large when the people from Whoville gave him their love.
OpenSource is Whoville, IBM is the Grinch, Give it some love, we can still go up to that cave and burn IBM out of its cavern if need be.
WTF is a tyre?
WHO the fuck is tyre?
this could be done as a narration with fist cameras and such, show them arguing, cut the talking, in with the narration.
a little 30 second cut scene would work.
there are tons of british movies that rock.
imagine if snatch was tried to be americanized, or monty pythons work.
it would suck so bad. just so bad.
emp is disabled by any sort of metallic shielding around the outside of electronics, this is called a faraday cage, and to be 100% effective no part of the electronic can be exposed to the outside EM field,
due to the skin effect, the potential difference between the skin on the outside(the cage in this case) is equal to the potential differnce inside the cage, both are zero.
emp is easy to defeat if you enclose something in metal(tinfoil anyone?) but hardening electronics is something different entirely, and explains why the shuttle still uses computers from 1980's
"
The benefits are small. The energy needed to shift a payload from the bottom to the top remains the same with or without the structure. The amount of money and energy spent on building the structure needs to be recovered in improved efficiency, and that seems unlikely.
All of the investment is up front. There is no incremental benefit to this - the elevator does not become useful until it's complete. Any return on investment (including to governments in the form of kudos or re-election benefit) is delayed until long after completion of the project."
WHAT is wrong with slashdot???!?!?!?
where are all these retards coming from???
"The benefits are small...."
what are you smoking?
Launching a rocket.... REQUIRES you to move the FUEL as well as the ROCKET, hence requireing more ENERGY.
Force=mass*acceleration
more mass means more force for the same acceleration to occur.
That's why the rockets are so dammed big, and have such powerful reaction rocket turbines.
This is a Fuge Step, at 400$ a pound it divides the cost of a rocket per pound into 50. (rockets cost about 20,000$ a pound..)
that is because of the weight of the rope, the rope is pulled back to earth, increasing the tension, this cable stretches over the GEP or whatever, so the forces acting on it are balanced, the pull of the earth and the centripital acceleartion equal out, therefore the cable weighs nothing (weight is a measure of force afterall), but still masses a considerable amount. ( (pi)*(r^2)*(h)*density of material = mass
screw karma
You are a friggggin dolt.
how are you going to get people up into space?
THIS space elevetor would be the frigging station.
one would move up materials and then deploy the materials up in space.
From an energy point it is much more efficient, by a factor of 20000:400 or 50 for those of you who dont like numbers. the cost goes down from 20,000$ a POUND to 400$/pd
looks like you dont need to lose any weight to get up into space then....
AND who is going to live in this space station their ENTIRE LIFE because once you go into space and stop exercising, YOU DONT COME BACK DOWN ON PAIN OF DEATH. your body loses its terrestrial adaptations, and cannot gain them back.
troll.
something able to take the tensil strength of holding up an orbital station against the rotational forceof the eart should be able to stand a measly 100 mile an hour wind.
also, this cable would not be that thick, i can do some calculations tommorow morning and post them or just cite something off the net/
im sorry but if you would please read up on your history of chemistry?
Urea was discovered by Hilaire Rouelle in 1773. It was the first organic compound to be artificially synthesized from inorganic starting materials, in 1828 by Friedrich Woehler, who prepared it by the reaction of potassium cyanate with ammonium sulfate. This disproved the theory that the chemicals of living organisms are fundamentally different from inanimate matter and started the discipline of organic chemistry.
Science has no laws, there are only theories, theories which can be disproved.
If a very unlikely occurrance were to happen tommorow, (lets say you were floating) then the theory of gravity might be wrong, I don't really know what would consititute a violation of the theory of gravity
G=g m1 m2 / r^2
And supposing that life could not come from non-life there is still the spore theory, and it could have been happening forever.
Supposing life could come from non life will be a much more realistic fact if on some distant planet (europa, Titan, mars, venus) some organism showing the characteristics of life was found.
In addition, I have a question to ask you, why would "God" decide to put Archea that live 4.5 km below the earths surface into existence. Or the Platypus, that one is just a big old puzzle for me.
mod him up now! scotty
what i ment to say is that a very similar joke/factsheet about the US congress exists, and either both are true, or one is face, or both are true, but both being true is unlikely.
sorry i saw those same numbers as congress, i call bullshit, so show your cards.
It's a good thing to stand up for what you believe in. It works out for the best, especially here in Canada where there are fewer people, so your vote counts just a bit more.
just wait and watch CSI.
then if you can see it, or they describe the system, you know the PR machine is working.
in the american constitution, every right not specifically taken away or limmited is a right you have in the fullest.
The constitution mentions nothing about privacy, therefore you are entitled to it as a right.
subsequent clarifications may have changed something
too bad it isn't open source.
it is also 200 bucks for the student version
and it only runs on windows
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/0 5/1759243&tid=160&tid=98&tid=103&tid=14&tid=219
surprising how ones memory goes
From the article: "NASA officials said the possibility of cutting Voyager and several other long-running missions in the Earth-Sun Exploration Division arose in February, when the Bush administration proposed slashing the division's 2006 budget by nearly one-third -- from $75 million to $53 million."
try again, bush is supportive of the "I love space and support it because the common people like space" NOT the "scientists are finding new things about the universe and i applaud their efforts, and understand they need constant funding for basic research"
no, you are wrong.
try again, if you look hard enough it will only take 4 colours
we all know that the diamond industry artificially inflates the prices on diamonds, so either using those "surplus" diamonds, or through thin film diamond manufaturation (which btw is better in low/no gravity)... ... COAT the suits and lenses! problem solved!
sure you have to wash off the dust, but it wont be rubbing anyone the wrong way after that.
ps. if a baby was born blind, and this was an option for the baby to see (before the developmental limitation on vision), wouldn't you want the bionic baby in your home?
19 year old son talking to his father.
"hey son, quit looking through those girls clothes!"
"yes dad...."
"So, son?..."
"ya?"
"They lookin' good under there or what?"
yes you could make this work, so long as the human brain is getting input it will try and make sense of it all.
or You just get the glasses to record that stuff and send it to the chip, having the chip in many modes, one where it accepts the higher UV frequencies only, and translates their patterns down into the visible wavelength, while removing/not_count/throw_away all the information in the visible spectrum in that mode. devoid of imput your brain would interpret.
same thing for Infared spectrum, but then the wavelength would have to go up up.
if the modes were combined it will likely by somewhat like synthanasia is my guess, i cannot think of any other way for it to work, after all, all the colours are already taken up!
pretty much ya, my university got owned the other day. Some dude patched into the school library wireless and uploaded into all of the computers some worm. For the most part the boxes were using IE with those dumb windows services turned on, and the thing propogated into the computer design labs.(which i was using at the time).
Not fun.
and one year, the engineers broke the wifi signals used in the lecture speakers(they are transmitted to wirelessly around the room) they just ended up playing fart noises and stuff over and over.
the proceedings are not secret, the press were allowed in.
the press are NOT allowed, however to publish on the material being presented at the inquiry for fear of biasing the public and stopping this man from getting a fair trial..
free speech isn't an issue here IMO because the information presented at the inquiriry can be brought to light once the trial is under way...
it's not like all the information is getting covered up, it is just getting delayed for a short time.