yep, the open source nv ones work just fine for 2D. personally, since nvidia started the use of their 'installer', i've not had a single problem installing the drivers on slackware, which traditionally always requires a custom module to be built as there's no precompiled ones included. i recently borrowed a lovely acer laptop from work (travelmate 8100) and have had nothing but problems with the ATI X700 in it. i came at the problem with an open mind and tried installing ATI's proprietary drivers in all the possible methods and troubleshooting the process when it failed but after a few days worth of chewing up my spare time with it, i fell back to Xorg's broken (well, it is in slack 11 anyway) radeon driver without 3D. i already had an nvidia bias but thought i'd give ATI a fair chance to persuade me otherwise (i'm a fair bloke). no such luck.
back to my point; yes, i'd love open drivers for nvidia. it'd be fair to say they'd most likely see a surge in sales if they went down this path. but that's not their business model so it's not going to happen anytime soon. on the other hand, they sell a solid PRODUCT. a product isn't just the hardware but the software also and, in my experience, they're worth the money i've forked out for them. i know other people's mileage varies a lot but their prodcuts 'just plain work' for me. that's what keeps me buying.
...all i've seen Sun do over the last few years is open more things up. Solaris used to cost us money for disks; now it's free (and there's an open source version), same for Java, now it's GPL'd. Anyone like open source chips?
don't get me wrong, i don't think the sun (not much pun intended) shines out of their collective behind. there's still some stuff that grates; service plans just to get the 'recommended' patch clusters. they are moving in the right direction, as parent said.
IANAL and i think it's ridiculous but i always remember the 'mens rea' principle of law from my small amount of book-learnin'; if you have a guilty mind (ie you _meant_ to break the law), you're just as guilty as if you actually _did_ break the law. and i guess in america it wouldn't be hard to make that stick.:-)
i bought a DS with a dead pixel. no arguments, a straight return. apparently, the same applies to the cracked hinges. THAT is what i want to see when i spend a decent sum of money on something; after-sales service.
worth mentioning that glxgears is very old and as such doesn't benchmark features that make new games tick. for example; i have a geforce2 ultra and a geforce6500. the geforce2 aces over 2000FPS but the 6500 only scores 1300-ish. any guesses which one's going to struggle running quake4 (if it will even run)?
personally, i use it to test if i've managed to get direct rendering working at all.
no idea what to use to benchmark under linux, though. any suggestions gladly accepted...
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i'm with you on your approach to taking various sources as a basis for an average. this has to be the only way of reading the news, i reckon, as long as you obviously take into account various 'slants' that they take and account for them.
as an aside, i have friends here in the UK that won't take the word of the BBC because they feel it has issues with the government on journalistic freedom, etc.
i'm pissing around with a Sun Ultra20 workstation at work at present (we want to use it as an X-console for our console port-only V240's) and because X on Solaris 10 x86 comes broken out-of-the-box (honest!), i've started messing around with slamd64 10.2 as an experiment. personally, the only problems i had was that the installer could not (or so it would seem) create filesystems. i used a 32 bit 10.2 install CD to mkfs.ext3 and rebooted into the slamd64 installer. since then, i've not had any problems or flakiness. i've not done a massive amount of stress testing as yet but, from first impressions, it seems as solid as its parent. bloody quick, too.
as a bit of advice; if you're having stability problems with any slack, you shouldn't really be using slack -current. you can make a bit of a mess of your system that way. it's updated so often, things can get a little out of step, say for instance if they start using a new version of GCC, they actually rebuild the whole lot so packages can give each other grief. i've made that mistake. this is why Pat refers to '-stable' as opposed to the number of the release.
back to the article in question; i found his review a bit crap really. nowhere near enough in depth and missing some important stuff (i.e. package management and all the user made add-ons).
[opinion] slack has been my distro of choice since 9.0, when i tried it as an escape from red hat. i'd never have learned as much about the inner working of linux if i hadn't. simple as that. [/opinion]
from TFA:
"forum for device manufacturers, network operators, and application developers"
the other ones i see possibly making a difference. i run a linux laptop and although i'm happy with the level of functionality i've got out of it, i'd rather be able to get every bit of functionality out if it.
maybe just the way i read it, i suppose.
let's not forget that it sounds like a bag of shit as well!! pity's sake, it captures the image from the bloody screen! does nobody else think that sounds like holding a tape recorder next to a speaker?
this subject's a little over my head but this guy doesn't seem to be an amateur. you seen his resume & company website? particular emphasis on the resume...
yes, nothing new. my friends at http://www.epic45.com/ were offering free album downloads for years. unfortunately it's not possible at the moment due to bandwidth limits, etc but they were doing this donkey's ago. saying that, though, if somebody's going to offer free (as in beer) stuff at the expense of it having to be pushed at us via some means, good on them. (i did think this was a _news_ site, though!)
are there many sites left that provide places for people to get songs that bands are 'giving' away? i got out of the loop once i started, uh, buying my music:-)
good lord. it took all that to install quake3?? i just copied the dir structure from a windowz box and ran the 1.32 point release installer.
does this mean that linux _has_ actually become more user-friendly over the years??!
but no, point well made. i still run a 'Doze box for TV capture, gaming. my list of apps replaced by linux equivs is growing, though. and i think that's how it will be. a slow uptake. slow but steady.
(no sarcasm intended but) i imagine the same as it runs on pretty much any other new intel-based gear, apart from the EFI stuff, of course.
i found a link to a howto the other day: http://macbook.mared.com/linux/ and it looks like it didn't need too much tweaking.
i inherited a G4 the other day and tried to install slackintosh on it but it wasn't having it. not sure why yet.
...you are being sarcastic.....aren't you??
and to prove your commitment to your views you couldn't be arsed putting your name with that comment then? nice. :-)
yep, the open source nv ones work just fine for 2D. personally, since nvidia started the use of their 'installer', i've not had a single problem installing the drivers on slackware, which traditionally always requires a custom module to be built as there's no precompiled ones included. i recently borrowed a lovely acer laptop from work (travelmate 8100) and have had nothing but problems with the ATI X700 in it. i came at the problem with an open mind and tried installing ATI's proprietary drivers in all the possible methods and troubleshooting the process when it failed but after a few days worth of chewing up my spare time with it, i fell back to Xorg's broken (well, it is in slack 11 anyway) radeon driver without 3D. i already had an nvidia bias but thought i'd give ATI a fair chance to persuade me otherwise (i'm a fair bloke). no such luck.
back to my point; yes, i'd love open drivers for nvidia. it'd be fair to say they'd most likely see a surge in sales if they went down this path. but that's not their business model so it's not going to happen anytime soon. on the other hand, they sell a solid PRODUCT. a product isn't just the hardware but the software also and, in my experience, they're worth the money i've forked out for them. i know other people's mileage varies a lot but their prodcuts 'just plain work' for me. that's what keeps me buying.
"faster"??
sounds like he got the ones made of paper and dry twigs...
...all i've seen Sun do over the last few years is open more things up. Solaris used to cost us money for disks; now it's free (and there's an open source version), same for Java, now it's GPL'd. Anyone like open source chips?
don't get me wrong, i don't think the sun (not much pun intended) shines out of their collective behind. there's still some stuff that grates; service plans just to get the 'recommended' patch clusters. they are moving in the right direction, as parent said.
IANAL and i think it's ridiculous but i always remember the 'mens rea' principle of law from my small amount of book-learnin'; if you have a guilty mind (ie you _meant_ to break the law), you're just as guilty as if you actually _did_ break the law. and i guess in america it wouldn't be hard to make that stick. :-)
i bought a DS with a dead pixel. no arguments, a straight return. apparently, the same applies to the cracked hinges. THAT is what i want to see when i spend a decent sum of money on something; after-sales service.
nice one, Nintendo.
"Didn't RTFA but I assume..."
that aside, it's a valid point.
...you can recycle them? anyone know if there's a percentage that can't be recycled?
"There have been much more important issues that I was unable to get Slashdot to cover."
more important?! than gossip? here?
ahem! to bloody right the buzzword's taken! i've been saying this for years...
s hup
mashup (mash up) V. 1. to get wrecked on drugs of some description. 2. to have violence visited on one's person.
usage: "we were right in the middle of one hell of a mashup and i fell and broke my arm."
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...without knowing it. as i've pointed out before you can download sources for Sony devices from here: http://www.sony.net/Products/Linux/Download/search .html
anyone got anything on the list? [hint: try under the 'game' section]
worth mentioning that glxgears is very old and as such doesn't benchmark features that make new games tick. for example; i have a geforce2 ultra and a geforce6500. the geforce2 aces over 2000FPS but the 6500 only scores 1300-ish. any guesses which one's going to struggle running quake4 (if it will even run)? personally, i use it to test if i've managed to get direct rendering working at all. no idea what to use to benchmark under linux, though. any suggestions gladly accepted...
i'm with you on your approach to taking various sources as a basis for an average. this has to be the only way of reading the news, i reckon, as long as you obviously take into account various 'slants' that they take and account for them.
:-)
as an aside, i have friends here in the UK that won't take the word of the BBC because they feel it has issues with the government on journalistic freedom, etc.
personally i'm with http://www.guardian.co.uk/ but hey, that's just my opinion.
i'm pissing around with a Sun Ultra20 workstation at work at present (we want to use it as an X-console for our console port-only V240's) and because X on Solaris 10 x86 comes broken out-of-the-box (honest!), i've started messing around with slamd64 10.2 as an experiment. personally, the only problems i had was that the installer could not (or so it would seem) create filesystems. i used a 32 bit 10.2 install CD to mkfs.ext3 and rebooted into the slamd64 installer. since then, i've not had any problems or flakiness. i've not done a massive amount of stress testing as yet but, from first impressions, it seems as solid as its parent. bloody quick, too.
as a bit of advice; if you're having stability problems with any slack, you shouldn't really be using slack -current. you can make a bit of a mess of your system that way. it's updated so often, things can get a little out of step, say for instance if they start using a new version of GCC, they actually rebuild the whole lot so packages can give each other grief. i've made that mistake. this is why Pat refers to '-stable' as opposed to the number of the release.
back to the article in question; i found his review a bit crap really. nowhere near enough in depth and missing some important stuff (i.e. package management and all the user made add-ons).
[opinion] slack has been my distro of choice since 9.0, when i tried it as an escape from red hat. i'd never have learned as much about the inner working of linux if i hadn't. simple as that. [/opinion]
hey! you missed out 'moon-on-a-stick'! arf!
from TFA: "forum for device manufacturers, network operators, and application developers" the other ones i see possibly making a difference. i run a linux laptop and although i'm happy with the level of functionality i've got out of it, i'd rather be able to get every bit of functionality out if it. maybe just the way i read it, i suppose.
let's not forget that it sounds like a bag of shit as well!! pity's sake, it captures the image from the bloody screen! does nobody else think that sounds like holding a tape recorder next to a speaker?
this subject's a little over my head but this guy doesn't seem to be an amateur. you seen his resume & company website? particular emphasis on the resume...
...now they can make even fucking more money off of me everytime i want to sell something! argh!
oh, okay then; it's actually because i'm _too lazy_ to sort it out. good point, though. think i'll make some torrents up when i get home.
:-)
good point, well made!
yes, nothing new. my friends at http://www.epic45.com/ were offering free album downloads for years. unfortunately it's not possible at the moment due to bandwidth limits, etc but they were doing this donkey's ago. saying that, though, if somebody's going to offer free (as in beer) stuff at the expense of it having to be pushed at us via some means, good on them. (i did think this was a _news_ site, though!)
:-)
are there many sites left that provide places for people to get songs that bands are 'giving' away? i got out of the loop once i started, uh, buying my music
no, seriously. why has no-one listed it?
good lord. it took all that to install quake3?? i just copied the dir structure from a windowz box and ran the 1.32 point release installer.
does this mean that linux _has_ actually become more user-friendly over the years??!
but no, point well made. i still run a 'Doze box for TV capture, gaming. my list of apps replaced by linux equivs is growing, though. and i think that's how it will be. a slow uptake. slow but steady.
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