That's right. And all the "hippies" protesting the Vietnam War in the 70's were just at the rallies to get laid and smoke pot. Ignore the tear gas, the intimidation, the bullets, and the fire hoses.
People died protesting the Vietnam War. It's likely that people will die protesting this one. Yes, some of the protest was fashionable - there was a culture war going on at the same time. But to say "oh, they're protesting because it's trendy" is to ignore the real arguments and issues at hand, and the very real determination they have to protest an illegal action.
Use your brain. I was talking about protests to day, not Vietnam. Vietnam was different - there was a draft.
First: it's extremely difficult to "install" a democracy. It has been done, but only in countries in which millions died before being defeated.
But not impossible. Do you think Iraq is failing?
Really? The only way? As opposed to, say, finding a solution to the Palestinian crisis, which has been the touchstone of religious fundamentalism and terrorism in the region for the last 60 years?
Ofcourse, solving Palestine will solve everything!!!! Don't be such an idiot. They're using Palestine as an excuse. The whole region has been like this since it was split up after WW1 and it isn't all about Israel & Palestine.
The solution to Palestine is for the Palestinians to make as many concessions as the Israelis tried to. A good start would be to get rid of Arafat.
It's very different. No-one in the Allied countries believed that Japan and Germany should be left to their own devices after being defeated
It's exactly the same. Noone in the coalition believed that Iraq could be left to its own devices. Or do you believe that WW2 alliances are more relevant today than alliances with Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan? Do us all a favor and do some reading. Chechyna is far less to do with Islamic fundamentalists than a struggle for nationalism and independence. In many ways, that struggle is similar to Iraq. Are there Islamic militants taking advantage of the chaos, looking for thier own chance to grab power? Of course. But the central battle is one of nationalism, not religion.
Again, use your fucking brain. I never said anything about the root causes. All I said is that those protesters didn't stay one day longer to protest the murders by Islamic terrorists. BTW, if you do some research youself you will find that the problems in Chechnya and the Balkans are deeply related to Islam & Christianity.
Yes, it's the infiltration of American society by Islamists! Oooh, and they're allying with the communists/socialists!
Get a grip. The peace groups are not a bloc, nor even a cohesive political movement. It's a web of extremely diverse interests - that's why you see peace activists marching alongside gay rights protests alongside a banner proclaiming "Free Palestine". You're making the mistake of lumping them all together with the religion you so obviously dispise and branding them all traitors. Again, this does not mean that radicals of every stripe won't try to take over groups. The advantage of the protest movement is that if you don't like the group you;re with, you don't have to obey.
Again, use your fucking brain. I never said that they were a cohesive block. Stop putting fucking words in my mouth. The organiser and funder of the rallies (ANSWER) is a cohesive block and they (ANSWER socialists) are allying themselves with islamists. Many of the other protesters may be ignorant people just going along for the ride.
The advantage of the protest movement is that if you don't like the group you;re with, you don't have to obey
Unfortunately, many do obey. When 'peace protesters; get in large groups like that they can get very, very violent. It's partly a mob thing but also partly cause they think their cause is "just" and justifies their violent (hmmm...sounds familiar).
One: Don't you think you should have finished setting one up in Afghanistan first?
The World is still there and they've having elections in a couple of months.
Two: Why do you assume you can successfully export liberal democracy to a people with no history of one?
I thought I already gave Germany & Japan as an example (South Korea is a third). Do you really believe that a country has to have a history of democracy in order to have one now? How can any country every have democracy that way?
You neo-cons cannot get this through your heads. Say it with me slowly: HAVING-A-DIFFERENT-POINT-OF-VIEW-DOES-NOT-MAKE-YOU -ANTI-AMERICAN.
And how does that contradict my statement "these days it is hip and cool to be anti-american"?
I never said that all people against Bush are anti-American. Try following the links I provded and watch Americans burn American flags and wave american flags with swastikas instead of stars and tell me those people aren't anti-American.
Any noone is stopping them from protesting, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't question and expose their motives. Just watch the movies and view the pictures. Why would normal people join in and associate themselves with those kind of people?
Uh, I think you mean IL. IDL = "Interface Defninition Language" whereas IL = "Intermediary Language". Getting the teminology wrong when you're trying to sound smart and informed isn't a good idea.
FYI, the.NET redistributable is 23MB, the compact framework is 12MB (and that includes VMs for all supported processors). Portable.NET (DotGNU's runtime) can fit on a single floppy.
Those 15 billion were almost exclusively intended to buy drugs from U.S. companies who manufacture them at less than 1% of that price
How much do you suppose it cost those companies to do the R&D for those drugs? Name any other system (socialism, dictatorship etc) or country (sudan etc) that has managed to do the same and provide it for less and I'll give your comment some credit.
Geeks here like to think that by mirroring the american hatred of the rest of the world, they can be part of the intellectually superior and socially sophisticated crowd (and hopefully get laid at the same time).
These days it is 'hip' and 'cool' to be anti-American. They fail to see the long term goals in Iraq. Installing a successful liberal democracy in the heart of the middle east is the only way to bring lasting peace to the region and the world. I call these people liberal conservatives. They are afraid of change, they want things to stay the way they were pre 9/11. They think that by pulling back from the world the terrorists will leave the west alone. They think the only reason the terrorists attack is because of grievances, not because they want to take over the world (only the evil zionist amerinazi bushitler conpirators want to take over the world remember?). Those who doubt the Iraq mission are no different from those who doubted America's efforts to rebuilt post WW2 Europe and Japan. Back then they said it couldn't be done, was a waste of money and that the people would not be able to handle US-style democracy.
For those who doubt that we are suceeding in Iraq I suggest you go and read IraqTheModel (an Iraqi blog run by Iraqi brothers) and other Iraqi blogs linked from that blog.
Your example of the AIDS help that America gives to Africa is just one small example of the terrible hypocrisy that plagues the American hating world. No other country has sacrificed so much and given so much for complete strangers and yet you only see protestors in NYC protesting Bush's 15 billion dollar AIDs policy but you never see them protesting Europe's 0 dollar AIDs policy. You will also see them come from all over the country to protest democracy in action (the republican national convention - see this and this for an example of their "peaceful" ways) but you never see them stay just one day longer to protest the kidnapping and cold blooded murder of over 400 school children, parents and teachers in Russia by Islamic militants.
The world is in deep shit. Europe is being complacent about an impending danger (yet again) and the American hating socialists in America are allying themselves with radical islamics under the guise of "peace groups" such as international ANSWER (see this for an idea of what they're really up to). It really gives new meaning to the term "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". America has been here before, and America has suceeded before but it will take strength and visionary and determined leadership -- and despite the fact that I don't like many of his policies (or his religious tendencies), I believe the only candidate which can offer the security the world needs at this vital point in history is Bush.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing - EDMOND BURKE
Oh, and BTW, I'm not American. I'm a Vietnamese New Zealander.
It would be very wise for all nations to develop nuclear, biological and chemical weapons
As opposed before Bushitler got into power when it wasn't very wise for all nations to develop nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.
Why, now that Bush has made it clear that countries that have developed WMD and threaten to use them against their neighbours and America, all countries in the world are scrambling to develop their own WMD. Just look at Lybia!!!
DHTML is HTML with Javascript. Its just a buzz word, why do these PC magazines keep touting it as the latest and greatest thing???
NOT. Years ago, HTML + Javascript could only modify things like form elements, status bars and the title. DHTML bought forward an era where all HTML elements could be directly modified from code (javascript) or declaratively using CSS behaviours.
Did you really think a country would give up their own freedom without a fight?
LOL. *wipes tear*. nice one.
Anyone who disagrees with you must be a FOX watching, redneck doofus eh?
Why don't YOU try reading some iraqi blogs full of praise for the removal of Saddam?
All it changed in Iraq is now US companies can work there safer and earn money. Just open your eyes, read other world newspapers not US media, watch something other than CNN or FOX you will see what I mean.
You just proved that you are an idiot right there.
Uh. Ironic that you should use a sarcasm tag when you can't even recognise it yourself.
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Of course, these examples are from before the age of preemptive warfare based on secret evidence.
Secret evidence? I can't event count the number of UN resolutions relating to Iraq's illegal weapons programs on my hands.
And preemptive or not, it doesn't disolve the fact that encouraging US style policies and government on Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to increased prosperity and more cultural understanding on both sides. Is it right to impose US style of governmment on other countries? Ask yourself if it was right for the Taliban Or Saddam to impose their method of government. At least the US style builds infrastructure and prosperity.
In my town, we have a Japanese restuarant called "Kamakazi". Can you imagine a shop being called that 50 years ago? My hope is that America succeeds and brings freedom, liberty and prosperity to the middle east so that in 50 years my grand children can go to a Middle Eastern restuarant named Intifada.
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I bow to your intellect and sophistication. Just one question: Where you wanking off while making that post?
OOhhh Americans are stupid *wank* *wank* Bush is hiter *wank* *wank* I'm going to get modded up for this *wank* *wank*
That's right. And all the "hippies" protesting the Vietnam War in the 70's were just at the rallies to get laid and smoke pot. Ignore the tear gas, the intimidation, the bullets, and the fire hoses.
People died protesting the Vietnam War. It's likely that people will die protesting this one. Yes, some of the protest was fashionable - there was a culture war going on at the same time. But to say "oh, they're protesting because it's trendy" is to ignore the real arguments and issues at hand, and the very real determination they have to protest an illegal action.
Use your brain. I was talking about protests to day, not Vietnam. Vietnam was different - there was a draft.
First: it's extremely difficult to "install" a democracy. It has been done, but only in countries in which millions died before being defeated.
But not impossible. Do you think Iraq is failing?
Really? The only way? As opposed to, say, finding a solution to the Palestinian crisis, which has been the touchstone of religious fundamentalism and terrorism in the region for the last 60 years?
Ofcourse, solving Palestine will solve everything!!!! Don't be such an idiot. They're using Palestine as an excuse. The whole region has been like this since it was split up after WW1 and it isn't all about Israel & Palestine.
The solution to Palestine is for the Palestinians to make as many concessions as the Israelis tried to. A good start would be to get rid of Arafat.
It's very different. No-one in the Allied countries believed that Japan and Germany should be left to their own devices after being defeated
It's exactly the same. Noone in the coalition believed that Iraq could be left to its own devices. Or do you believe that WW2 alliances are more relevant today than alliances with Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan?
Do us all a favor and do some reading. Chechyna is far less to do with Islamic fundamentalists than a struggle for nationalism and independence. In many ways, that struggle is similar to Iraq. Are there Islamic militants taking advantage of the chaos, looking for thier own chance to grab power? Of course. But the central battle is one of nationalism, not religion.
Again, use your fucking brain. I never said anything about the root causes. All I said is that those protesters didn't stay one day longer to protest the murders by Islamic terrorists. BTW, if you do some research youself you will find that the problems in Chechnya and the Balkans are deeply related to Islam & Christianity.
Yes, it's the infiltration of American society by Islamists! Oooh, and they're allying with the communists/socialists!
Get a grip. The peace groups are not a bloc, nor even a cohesive political movement. It's a web of extremely diverse interests - that's why you see peace activists marching alongside gay rights protests alongside a banner proclaiming "Free Palestine". You're making the mistake of lumping them all together with the religion you so obviously dispise and branding them all traitors. Again, this does not mean that radicals of every stripe won't try to take over groups. The advantage of the protest movement is that if you don't like the group you;re with, you don't have to obey.
Again, use your fucking brain. I never said that they were a cohesive block. Stop putting fucking words in my mouth. The organiser and funder of the rallies (ANSWER) is a cohesive block and they (ANSWER socialists) are allying themselves with islamists. Many of the other protesters may be ignorant people just going along for the ride.
The advantage of the protest movement is that if you don't like the group you;re with, you don't have to obey
Unfortunately, many do obey. When 'peace protesters; get in large groups like that they can get very, very violent. It's partly a mob thing but also partly cause they think their cause is "just" and justifies their violent (hmmm...sounds familiar).
Then you should know better.
I do and one day you will too.
One: Don't you think you should have finished setting one up in Afghanistan first?
The World is still there and they've having elections in a couple of months.
Two: Why do you assume you can successfully export liberal democracy to a people with no history of one?
I thought I already gave Germany & Japan as an example (South Korea is a third). Do you really believe that a country has to have a history of democracy in order to have one now? How can any country every have democracy that way?
You neo-cons cannot get this through your heads. Say it with me slowly: HAVING-A-DIFFERENT-POINT-OF-VIEW-DOES-NOT-MAKE-YO
And how does that contradict my statement "these days it is hip and cool to be anti-american"?
I never said that all people against Bush are anti-American. Try following the links I provded and watch Americans burn American flags and wave american flags with swastikas instead of stars and tell me those people aren't anti-American.
Any noone is stopping them from protesting, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't question and expose their motives. Just watch the movies and view the pictures. Why would normal people join in and associate themselves with those kind of people?
Do not forget that the US gave the Taliban $150 million just a little while before 9/11
As foriegn aid. I suggest you do some research and forget getting your 'facts' from Michael Moore.
Uh, I think you mean IL. IDL = "Interface Defninition Language" whereas IL = "Intermediary Language". Getting the teminology wrong when you're trying to sound smart and informed isn't a good idea.
.NET redistributable is 23MB, the compact framework is 12MB (and that includes VMs for all supported processors). Portable.NET (DotGNU's runtime) can fit on a single floppy.
FYI, the
Hmm..got any links?
You do realise that there is still an on going war in Iraq right? I never said the long term mission was complete did I?
I guess you think it's less of a 'liberal democracy' than it was 2 years ago right?
Those 15 billion were almost exclusively intended to buy drugs from U.S. companies who manufacture them at less than 1% of that price
How much do you suppose it cost those companies to do the R&D for those drugs? Name any other system (socialism, dictatorship etc) or country (sudan etc) that has managed to do the same and provide it for less and I'll give your comment some credit.
I think we're a minority here in /.
Geeks here like to think that by mirroring the american hatred of the rest of the world, they can be part of the intellectually superior and socially sophisticated crowd (and hopefully get laid at the same time).
These days it is 'hip' and 'cool' to be anti-American. They fail to see the long term goals in Iraq. Installing a successful liberal democracy in the heart of the middle east is the only way to bring lasting peace to the region and the world. I call these people liberal conservatives. They are afraid of change, they want things to stay the way they were pre 9/11. They think that by pulling back from the world the terrorists will leave the west alone. They think the only reason the terrorists attack is because of grievances, not because they want to take over the world (only the evil zionist amerinazi bushitler conpirators want to take over the world remember?). Those who doubt the Iraq mission are no different from those who doubted America's efforts to rebuilt post WW2 Europe and Japan. Back then they said it couldn't be done, was a waste of money and that the people would not be able to handle US-style democracy.
For those who doubt that we are suceeding in Iraq I suggest you go and read IraqTheModel (an Iraqi blog run by Iraqi brothers) and other Iraqi blogs linked from that blog.
Your example of the AIDS help that America gives to Africa is just one small example of the terrible hypocrisy that plagues the American hating world. No other country has sacrificed so much and given so much for complete strangers and yet you only see protestors in NYC protesting Bush's 15 billion dollar AIDs policy but you never see them protesting Europe's 0 dollar AIDs policy. You will also see them come from all over the country to protest democracy in action (the republican national convention - see this and this for an example of their "peaceful" ways) but you never see them stay just one day longer to protest the kidnapping and cold blooded murder of over 400 school children, parents and teachers in Russia by Islamic militants.
The world is in deep shit. Europe is being complacent about an impending danger (yet again) and the American hating socialists in America are allying themselves with radical islamics under the guise of "peace groups" such as international ANSWER (see this for an idea of what they're really up to). It really gives new meaning to the term "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". America has been here before, and America has suceeded before but it will take strength and visionary and determined leadership -- and despite the fact that I don't like many of his policies (or his religious tendencies), I believe the only candidate which can offer the security the world needs at this vital point in history is Bush.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing - EDMOND BURKE
Oh, and BTW, I'm not American. I'm a Vietnamese New Zealander.
It would be very wise for all nations to develop nuclear, biological and chemical weapons
As opposed before Bushitler got into power when it wasn't very wise for all nations to develop nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.
Why, now that Bush has made it clear that countries that have developed WMD and threaten to use them against their neighbours and America, all countries in the world are scrambling to develop their own WMD. Just look at Lybia!!!
idiot
So your point is that Bush should be re-elected so that he can continue his war on the new nazism/fascism (radical-islam)?
Sounds like we agree
You need to get professional help.
But I wouldn't put it past the Skull & Bones junta to try for a repeat of 1933
Doh, Kerry was part of s&b too,
But, since he's the only one running who has a chance of keeping King George out of office, I'm going to vote for him.
What a stupid statement. If Bush was anything like a king he wouldn't be able to be voted out right?
Oh, I thought it said Artificial Pr0n :(.
They'll either supply refurbished drives or ones with a larger capacity. Quantum used to have a 5 year warranty a wee while back.
DHTML is HTML with Javascript. Its just a buzz word, why do these PC magazines keep touting it as the latest and greatest thing???
NOT. Years ago, HTML + Javascript could only modify things like form elements, status bars and the title. DHTML bought forward an era where all HTML elements could be directly modified from code (javascript) or declaratively using CSS behaviours.
There's a lot of myths about Japan near the end of WWII, and one of the most profound is that the government was all looking to fight to the death.
What on earth would lead people to think that?
Kerry: I'm not Bush!
Don't you mean:
Kerry: I'm not Bush!
Kerry: No, wait. I am Bush!
Kerry: N, wait. I'm not Bush!
Did you really think a country would give up their own freedom without a fight?
LOL. *wipes tear*. nice one.
Anyone who disagrees with you must be a FOX watching, redneck doofus eh?
Why don't YOU try reading some iraqi blogs full of praise for the removal of Saddam?
All it changed in Iraq is now US companies can work there safer and earn money. Just open your eyes, read other world newspapers not US media, watch something other than CNN or FOX you will see what I mean.
You just proved that you are an idiot right there.
First, it obviously wasn't compiled with mono..
Uh. Why on earth would this be a problem? It shouldn't need to be compiled with mcs.
For example the ability to debug two apps at once (for client / server etc.)
what's wrong with running two instances of dev studio?
Even if the satellites remain perfectly stable, the beam would "dance" around its intended target due to atmospheric turbulances.
How much could microwave radiation "dance" around purely due to atmospheric turbulances?
Uh. Ironic that you should use a sarcasm tag when you can't even recognise it yourself.
Of course, these examples are from before the age of preemptive warfare based on secret evidence.
Secret evidence? I can't event count the number of UN resolutions relating to Iraq's illegal weapons programs on my hands.
And preemptive or not, it doesn't disolve the fact that encouraging US style policies and government on Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to increased prosperity and more cultural understanding on both sides. Is it right to impose US style of governmment on other countries? Ask yourself if it was right for the Taliban Or Saddam to impose their method of government. At least the US style builds infrastructure and prosperity.
In my town, we have a Japanese restuarant called "Kamakazi". Can you imagine a shop being called that 50 years ago? My hope is that America succeeds and brings freedom, liberty and prosperity to the middle east so that in 50 years my grand children can go to a Middle Eastern restuarant named Intifada.