Those are good points that you make about validation and exposure. That sort of marketing and impact is very pricey, and an open source project is probably incapable of generating that otherwise.
Unfortunately, too many of the TDM's that are around today are old and scared of change (and even more scared of being kicked out of their cushy six figure jobs)
Seems this guy has read one too many sarcastic slashdot articles where we all leave out that magical step before we get to PROFIT!!
Step 1. Read slashdot
Step 2. Take sarcasm at face value
Step 3. Give this suggestion to people as to how to make a startup
Step 4. ??
Step 5. Profit!!
Maybe he should include research into market share, how to get capital, how VC funding works, where to get these great people, etc. etc. The most important lesson in business came from Thomas Edison when he said "Get the money first!"
What part exactly is taken from the teachings of Baghdad Bob? If you're questioning my "pre-emptive" statement, all I can suggest is that things may have been severely worse for Microsoft had they not acted as early as they did. Missing the bus with the Internet in 1995 served an invualable lesson to them, that the senior members of MS's teams aren't likely to forget.
Haha I apologize for the misspellings of optimistic and subterranean. I myself, hate reading misspelled words in posts, but in an effort to get a point across early and get some feedback, I am occasionally hasty in my editing.
That's an interesting perspective, albeit an incorrect one. Microsoft recognized at an early stage that Linux would be a contender in the OS market and some praise should be given to their foresight. So many companies infact choose to simply not address the issue of this new platform that it would have become embarassing if a survey was conducted that showed this relatively unknown and obscure OS had eaten up 20% of the market. Microsoft pre-empted this attack early on by generating defensive evidence support Windows.
While he may make optomistic comments about the lawsuit filed by SCO, from speaking with hundreds of technical decision makers, including CIO's, the lawsuits have actually been a stumbling block in using a fullblown linux back end for alot of companies. As a CIO, you're concerned about the longterm value of your solution. And if you're the one that's penned your signature to a $5million system that is using software that may not be supported (or worse) then you can pretty much kiss your ass goodbye. Long gone are the days where "nobody got fired for buying IBM"
You can argue that there is no "safe bet" right now on platform decisions, but with all the positive marketing Microsoft has put forward in recent years, and all the negative publicity that Linux is receiveing as a direct result of this lawsuit, its just one more incentive to check out other avenues, and may ultimately be the deciding factor when a company decides NOT to implement a Linux solution as has been the case with many now Microsoft clients.
So you guys will probably mod this down to a sub terrarian level.
Not to reply to my own submission, but why the hell are you guys arguing in my post when all I did was point out from the article that this tax is voluntary?
What's he venting over?? At the end of the day, if this is passed, he still doesn't have to pay. Is he concerned that his political representation is focusing on the wrong things? That's a valid arguement, but not one that he put forward. So go eat a dick while I eat my lunch in my comfortable office.
I'm not a lotus notes user myself, and like any other large scale project, I'm sure it has its downfalls. You can't argue that the product wasn't innovative though. Its also hard to dispute the 100million users STILL using the product.
Wow buddy, you need to calm down. Its not like you're actually going to have to pay this tax. I can the idea that they would ask you to voluntarily pay this tax would be infuriating, but at the end of the day its just a proposal and one that doesn't actually have to affect you.
Aside from the fact that any tangible item purchased on the internet is subject to sales tax of some sort, this new proposed law doesn't make alot of sense.
From the article: "That's right: it's voluntary. In a country that can trace its origins in part to a dispute about taxes, does this man really think that people are going to voluntarily pay a tax? And what makes it even funnier is that he thinks people in Wisconsin are going to voluntarily pay."
This new tax on downloaded items would be completely voluntary. How many slashdotters are going to lineup to pay more taxes for items that they already receive for free. Next!
You're absolutely right. When it comes down to legalities and taxation, its one of the few times you would definitely want a company to put their ass on the line to make sure that the product worked as stated. Who would you sue in an open source project when the IRS or Revenue Canada comes knocking on your door?!
While most of you probably don't care much about the products Groove Networks have in their suite, the real story here in Microsoft acquiring a new CTO. This man has an impressive track record in the technology field. He is responsible for the creation of Lotus Notes, a technology that Microsoft Exchange is just starting to catch up to both in features and install base. 100 Million people use his technology worldwide. He is also rated among the top five developers of the century.
This article has more to do with Microsoft continuing to build an impressive array of innovators and visionaries to carry the company for another 20 years. If they happen to integrate a few of his company's technologies into the current Office suite, that's just a bonus.
Well most people on Slashdot seem to love Apple, and therefore they love the iPod. I'm all for sony taking a run at the market and at least giving them some competition to potentially drive the prices down or better yet expand the features of the current series of iPod's to perhaps include WMA support and a service other than iTunes.
One big note to consider, is that in a recent survey of baby-boomers, they were more likely to buy the Sony brandname than *any* other brand name in audio/visual home equipment. So with some good marketing, we might see out 50 something year old fathers jamming to a Sony sPod.
Is anyone else even the slightest bit concerned about all the background radiation these technologies create. We have wireless in our homes, FM/AM radio broadcasts floating around, bluetooth devices, WAP's in restaurants, coffee houses, my car dealership, etc. etc. etc. Does anyone have any links to research showing that all of this "noise" is safe to our fragile human bodies? Or is the ability to download porn anywhere, anytime more important to everyone?
Actually I was suprised myself that it cost $400, bit it included the antenna which was apparently $180. The rest was for wiring, and having it run to the rear windshield. Yeah I probably got fucked on that deal.
Sure XM is great, but its still kinda pricey to have it installed. My alpine deck with XM was $600 + $400 to purchase and nstall the xm antenna. Playing MP3's and WMV's in the car deck is great, but gets a little stale unless you're constantly burning more cd's.
So now, I've equipped the car with an 802.11 enabled pocket pc so that I can send porn to it and keep upto date on all my favorite Barely Legal DVD's. Makes getting stuck in traffic alot more fun. Plus the girls actually seem to like it when we're driving to a club.
Having worked in the crypto field, I thought I would take some time to clear up a few misconceptions. First off, the results of this paper in no way compromise the security of email or other data encrypted with algorithms that use this hash. As an extension of Moore's law prevails, these characteristics of any hash function are bound to be discovered. However, with that said, it is important to realize that this new discovery in mathematics allows us to move forward with hash technology to develop better algorithms.
Hash algorithms are one of the least understood principles in cryptography. The established mathematics around them is contemporarily vague, but under constant research. Therefore, anytime a new publication illustrates a flaw, technique, weakness, etc. we should be pleased that our understanding has grown and that a new, more advanced algorithm can be created with the knowledge gained.
This discovery is a not something to panic about, but rather an achievement that will bring about newer, stronger encryption technology.
Yeah, six years of post secondary education. Guess maybe I should have checked for proper punctuation. How about you just go eat a dick. (insert comma anywhere, including your ass)
Okay, I'll give you some points for a well thought out arguement, in particular, your argument for a cheap single purpose laptop. Linux may in this case be the optimal TCO solution given that the end user can function with Linux and you are knowledable enough to install it in a timely fashion.
TCO still involves the total cost of OWNERSHIP and not merely installation. You don't give yourself enough credit in how much your time is worth. I deal almost exclusively with Windows technologies and bill out at $200/hour. Now if you factor how much time it takes to setup each of these solutions with the labour, you'll have an even stronger argument if you can show that the XP installation takes longer than the Linux install. Not to mention, if your support calls are less frequent with Linux, you're saving more money.
The real point of my initial objection was highlight in an enterprise scenario, where there's a multitude of users with different abilities, a multitude of hardware, and numerous tasks for software, a TCO report would need to contain alot more analysis of how much support people cost for varrying platforms (ie. windows admin $60/hour vs. linux admin $80/hour or time to setup Windows servers and clients = 20 days, where time to setup Linux servers and clients = 60 days). Of course these are just example figures, by no means accurate, but just the number of factors one must consider when asked for the bottom line on TCO.
Hey dipshit, do you even know what TCO means... here, I'll spell it out for you Total Cost of Ownership. That includes alot more than just buying a retail boxed copy of the software. Other factors include hardware platform, installation and setup, administration, etc. etc. etc. So the next time you use the TCO tagline, spend a couple years, compile some data showing how you arrived at those numbers or you'll end up being just credible as the people you are so quick to criticize.
He's quoted at the end of the article: "But I don't want to regret not doing this. If I end up not making it, and my will is broken, and I go home, at least I'll have tried."
But yet earlier in the article:
"Probably the most elemental meaning he derives from the movies' various editions is Yoda's, "Do or do not. There is no try."
It fits in with his approach to life: "If you're going to do something, do it right. Don't half-ass it.""
Nothing there... just like the body of your message. Except maybe the hope of being modded funny for your last comment. But oh wait, nobody will read it anyways since you've proven yourself a moron with your negative karma.
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Those are good points that you make about validation and exposure. That sort of marketing and impact is very pricey, and an open source project is probably incapable of generating that otherwise.
Unfortunately, too many of the TDM's that are around today are old and scared of change (and even more scared of being kicked out of their cushy six figure jobs)
Seems this guy has read one too many sarcastic slashdot articles where we all leave out that magical step before we get to PROFIT!!
Step 1. Read slashdot
Step 2. Take sarcasm at face value
Step 3. Give this suggestion to people as to how to make a startup
Step 4. ??
Step 5. Profit!!
Maybe he should include research into market share, how to get capital, how VC funding works, where to get these great people, etc. etc. The most important lesson in business came from Thomas Edison when he said "Get the money first!"
What part exactly is taken from the teachings of Baghdad Bob? If you're questioning my "pre-emptive" statement, all I can suggest is that things may have been severely worse for Microsoft had they not acted as early as they did. Missing the bus with the Internet in 1995 served an invualable lesson to them, that the senior members of MS's teams aren't likely to forget.
No I don't work on the PR side :P
I use phrases such as "eat a dick" and "dipshit" far too frequently, despite six years of post secondary education, to be in that role fulltime.
Haha I apologize for the misspellings of optimistic and subterranean. I myself, hate reading misspelled words in posts, but in an effort to get a point across early and get some feedback, I am occasionally hasty in my editing.
That's an interesting perspective, albeit an incorrect one. Microsoft recognized at an early stage that Linux would be a contender in the OS market and some praise should be given to their foresight. So many companies infact choose to simply not address the issue of this new platform that it would have become embarassing if a survey was conducted that showed this relatively unknown and obscure OS had eaten up 20% of the market. Microsoft pre-empted this attack early on by generating defensive evidence support Windows.
While he may make optomistic comments about the lawsuit filed by SCO, from speaking with hundreds of technical decision makers, including CIO's, the lawsuits have actually been a stumbling block in using a fullblown linux back end for alot of companies. As a CIO, you're concerned about the longterm value of your solution. And if you're the one that's penned your signature to a $5million system that is using software that may not be supported (or worse) then you can pretty much kiss your ass goodbye. Long gone are the days where "nobody got fired for buying IBM"
You can argue that there is no "safe bet" right now on platform decisions, but with all the positive marketing Microsoft has put forward in recent years, and all the negative publicity that Linux is receiveing as a direct result of this lawsuit, its just one more incentive to check out other avenues, and may ultimately be the deciding factor when a company decides NOT to implement a Linux solution as has been the case with many now Microsoft clients.
So you guys will probably mod this down to a sub terrarian level.
Not to reply to my own submission, but why the hell are you guys arguing in my post when all I did was point out from the article that this tax is voluntary?
What's he venting over?? At the end of the day, if this is passed, he still doesn't have to pay.
Is he concerned that his political representation is focusing on the wrong things? That's a valid arguement, but not one that he put forward. So go eat a dick while I eat my lunch in my comfortable office.
I'm not a lotus notes user myself, and like any other large scale project, I'm sure it has its downfalls. You can't argue that the product wasn't innovative though. Its also hard to dispute the 100million users STILL using the product.
Wow buddy, you need to calm down. Its not like you're actually going to have to pay this tax. I can the idea that they would ask you to voluntarily pay this tax would be infuriating, but at the end of the day its just a proposal and one that doesn't actually have to affect you.
Aside from the fact that any tangible item purchased on the internet is subject to sales tax of some sort, this new proposed law doesn't make alot of sense.
From the article: "That's right: it's voluntary. In a country that can trace its origins in part to a dispute about taxes, does this man really think that people are going to voluntarily pay a tax? And what makes it even funnier is that he thinks people in Wisconsin are going to voluntarily pay."
This new tax on downloaded items would be completely voluntary. How many slashdotters are going to lineup to pay more taxes for items that they already receive for free. Next!
You're absolutely right. When it comes down to legalities and taxation, its one of the few times you would definitely want a company to put their ass on the line to make sure that the product worked as stated. Who would you sue in an open source project when the IRS or Revenue Canada comes knocking on your door?!
While most of you probably don't care much about the products Groove Networks have in their suite, the real story here in Microsoft acquiring a new CTO. This man has an impressive track record in the technology field. He is responsible for the creation of Lotus Notes, a technology that Microsoft Exchange is just starting to catch up to both in features and install base. 100 Million people use his technology worldwide. He is also rated among the top five developers of the century.
This article has more to do with Microsoft continuing to build an impressive array of innovators and visionaries to carry the company for another 20 years. If they happen to integrate a few of his company's technologies into the current Office suite, that's just a bonus.
Well most people on Slashdot seem to love Apple, and therefore they love the iPod. I'm all for sony taking a run at the market and at least giving them some competition to potentially drive the prices down or better yet expand the features of the current series of iPod's to perhaps include WMA support and a service other than iTunes.
One big note to consider, is that in a recent survey of baby-boomers, they were more likely to buy the Sony brandname than *any* other brand name in audio/visual home equipment. So with some good marketing, we might see out 50 something year old fathers jamming to a Sony sPod.
Is anyone else even the slightest bit concerned about all the background radiation these technologies create. We have wireless in our homes, FM/AM radio broadcasts floating around, bluetooth devices, WAP's in restaurants, coffee houses, my car dealership, etc. etc. etc. Does anyone have any links to research showing that all of this "noise" is safe to our fragile human bodies? Or is the ability to download porn anywhere, anytime more important to everyone?
Actually I was suprised myself that it cost $400, bit it included the antenna which was apparently $180. The rest was for wiring, and having it run to the rear windshield. Yeah I probably got fucked on that deal.
Sure XM is great, but its still kinda pricey to have it installed. My alpine deck with XM was $600 + $400 to purchase and nstall the xm antenna. Playing MP3's and WMV's in the car deck is great, but gets a little stale unless you're constantly burning more cd's. So now, I've equipped the car with an 802.11 enabled pocket pc so that I can send porn to it and keep upto date on all my favorite Barely Legal DVD's. Makes getting stuck in traffic alot more fun. Plus the girls actually seem to like it when we're driving to a club.
Having worked in the crypto field, I thought I would take some time to clear up a few misconceptions. First off, the results of this paper in no way compromise the security of email or other data encrypted with algorithms that use this hash. As an extension of Moore's law prevails, these characteristics of any hash function are bound to be discovered. However, with that said, it is important to realize that this new discovery in mathematics allows us to move forward with hash technology to develop better algorithms.
Hash algorithms are one of the least understood principles in cryptography. The established mathematics around them is contemporarily vague, but under constant research. Therefore, anytime a new publication illustrates a flaw, technique, weakness, etc. we should be pleased that our understanding has grown and that a new, more advanced algorithm can be created with the knowledge gained.
This discovery is a not something to panic about, but rather an achievement that will bring about newer, stronger encryption technology.
Yeah, six years of post secondary education. Guess maybe I should have checked for proper punctuation. How about you just go eat a dick. (insert comma anywhere, including your ass)
Okay, I'll give you some points for a well thought out arguement, in particular, your argument for a cheap single purpose laptop. Linux may in this case be the optimal TCO solution given that the end user can function with Linux and you are knowledable enough to install it in a timely fashion.
TCO still involves the total cost of OWNERSHIP and not merely installation. You don't give yourself enough credit in how much your time is worth. I deal almost exclusively with Windows technologies and bill out at $200/hour. Now if you factor how much time it takes to setup each of these solutions with the labour, you'll have an even stronger argument if you can show that the XP installation takes longer than the Linux install. Not to mention, if your support calls are less frequent with Linux, you're saving more money.
The real point of my initial objection was highlight in an enterprise scenario, where there's a multitude of users with different abilities, a multitude of hardware, and numerous tasks for software, a TCO report would need to contain alot more analysis of how much support people cost for varrying platforms (ie. windows admin $60/hour vs. linux admin $80/hour or time to setup Windows servers and clients = 20 days, where time to setup Linux servers and clients = 60 days). Of course these are just example figures, by no means accurate, but just the number of factors one must consider when asked for the bottom line on TCO.
Hey dipshit, do you even know what TCO means... here, I'll spell it out for you Total Cost of Ownership. That includes alot more than just buying a retail boxed copy of the software. Other factors include hardware platform, installation and setup, administration, etc. etc. etc. So the next time you use the TCO tagline, spend a couple years, compile some data showing how you arrived at those numbers or you'll end up being just credible as the people you are so quick to criticize.
Has the site been /.'ed already? Anybody have a cache link?
He's quoted at the end of the article:
"But I don't want to regret not doing this. If I end up not making it, and my will is broken, and I go home, at least I'll have tried."
But yet earlier in the article:
"Probably the most elemental meaning he derives from the movies' various editions is Yoda's, "Do or do not. There is no try."
It fits in with his approach to life: "If you're going to do something, do it right. Don't half-ass it.""
Nothing there... just like the body of your message. Except maybe the hope of being modded funny for your last comment. But oh wait, nobody will read it anyways since you've proven yourself a moron with your negative karma.
Eat a dick.