i still deal with UNIX people sometimes and they want to write scripts for the simplest things that Windows will let you do in a GUI in seconds
Yea, these uNIX people don't know nothing.. but how long did it take you to read this one hundred page document. And what would a 'UNIX/Novell admin' be even doing migrating to a Windows box. And why can't you type the personal pronoun in upper case. It gets curiouser and curiouser..:)
"If I were, however, a little girl who felt betrayed by my corporate overlords making a deal with one of the most reliable companies on the planet, thus giving me and my fellow employees more job security, so I quit and.."
Novell gave away the family silver for a buch of vouchers. They also took to uttering vague IP protection threats against the Open Source community on their web site. They also stoped promoting their own desktop and recommended Windows instead. At least one of their technical people has the personaly integrity to resign. Person abuse from some a******e is not required.
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"OK. So the government order Microsoft to document the protocols. Microsoft then does what the government asks. Now the government acknowledges that Microsoft has done what was asked. Somehow, the comments here make it seem like Microsoft made yet another mistake. Wasn't this what they asked Microsoft to do?
No, they were asked to open the specs not, after much delay, publish a mishmash of source code and API calls and then charge other compamies to connect their computers to their-own customers computers. What's difficult about producing an RFC. No doubt this undocumentation will be as deliveratly obscure as their previous efforts in that department...
Early on, the debate about Net neutrality centered on the issue of tiered or metered pricing.. The argument now is much more complex and centers on control of content and applications on both the wired and wireless Internet.
If a carrier can pick and choose among different types of content and different types of applications, its competitors (and, ultimately, the users) are severely disadvantaged.
"Imposing net neutrality may very well violate the takings clause of the US Constitution"
Net neutrality isn't about restricting the telecoms, it's about preventing them in restricting my rights under the US constitution. And 'net neutrality' came about in response to the telecoms attempt to close off access to the networks in favour of their own offerings. Blacking access to third party telephone companies, skype for instance.
"Spin on all you want about government subsidies to telcos, but the fact is those telcos went and spent their own money on their infrastructure, and based how much they spent on charging for traffic across their networks in certain ways"
Fair enough, the telcos build the infrastructure and we pay for it. We don't require them to decide how we use it. I pay for my electricity, but I don't let the power company decide what I watch on television.
"Now, if the government imposes net neutrality, the government will be significanly reducing the revenue-producing value of the telco's property"
It hasn't stopped them making money up to now. Indeed if 'net neutrality' was in place, the Internet/Web would never have come about.
"And never forget - the only one who will win if net neutrality is imposed are the lawyers"
And never forget how the teleco lawyers are attempting to spin the term 'net neutrality' into something that means the exact opposite. A bit like the canSPAM act, that didn't:)
"After a full day of back in forth with an editor deleting whatever I had just added"
I sympathise with your experience. Myself gave up after repeated abuse from the so-called unbiased editors (after a simple request for some citations). One even posted a private email from me to the forum in order to deride it with a fellow unbiased editor. Wikipedia, a heap of self-serving corporate propaganda and free advertising pretending to be an Encyclopedia..
"F-Secure researchers are calling attention to the fact that it's impossible to run third-party anti-virus on iPhones, because the SDK doesn't allow for it. It's a problem, as they claim malware will start to target the phone"
Why not use the same method the mawlare writers use. Oh, wait, it isn't possible unless the user explididly jailbreaks the device and uses the default password in SSH..
"fucking with someone just because they are known to pay attention and actually try to take advantage of such schemes (Bing cookie present) is slimy business practice, to say the least"
Who is doing the 'fucking', who is the recipient fuckee ?
'This was not-so-widely reported during the Katrina situation, because people were too busy jumping on the "Katrina is Bush's Fault!" bandwagon. Funding was funneled away from the levees and put into other projects'
If Bush cut funding, how isn't this Bushs fault ?
'That isn't to say that the ACE isn't at fault either; some of the levees seem to have been poorly built, but I am not convinced this is due to malicious intent'
Yes, the construction was flimsey, because of lack of funds.
"While Katarina was ongoing, there were plenty of independent news outlets running video footage of professionals warning what would happen. It made the Bush mantra of "No one could have predicted..." out to be just as much of a joke as the "No one could have predicted..." 9-11 version. (And then the Aug 6th PDB title was released.)"
Exactly, so how a Judge could belatedly blame the Army Corps of Engineers, defies logic. Of course he couldn't every state the real reasons. That the levees failed because of their flimsy construction and funding was denied to pay for Bushs war in Iraq. Not only that Bush was warned in advance about Katrina, but took no action.
"President Bush is expected to shift $1.3 billion away from raising and armoring levees, installing floodgates and building permanent pumping in Southeast Louisiana in order to plug long-anticipated financial shortfalls in other hurricane-protection projects, a move Sen. David Vitter describes as a retreat from the president's commitment to protect the whole New Orleans area"
"-Fedora is 'too' comfortable with cutting edge changes, even to the point of releasing versions ahead of upstream *or* backporting.. This has been a longstanding tendency with RH (everyone probably remembers the gcc 2.96 debacle)"
I honestly don't, do you mind providing a link. Did people come in one morning and find their gcc 2.96 had automatically upgraded itself?
"something about the Ubuntu desktop feels, subjectively to me, more whole rather than merely a conglomeration of the parts. This may simply be a matter of certain tastes they appear to me, because I can't nail it down"
You gets what you pay for. But to answer why Ubuntu is more whole, maybe because there is Canonical behind it. But then again I have been a user of openSuSE, and while all the parts were there, they weren't as polished as a Ubuntu distro. I guess it's what you're used to and besides no one is forcing you to upgrade...
'One of the great strengths of the Windows platform is that it has always been licence-agnostic', westlake
as long as it isn't the GPL..
'The system never frets or complains when you try to install an app that doesn't meet Microsoft's standards of political correctness', westlake
Except with WGA, Microsoft can remotely disable your desktop if it deems it 'unlicensed' and they don't give a toss about unlicensed third-party software.
'The Linux distro can make you jump through a hoop or two or three before you get to that closed source app or binary driver', westlake
Except, a certain software company keeps threatening codec developers with litigation, therefore such codecs have to be supplied seperately. If such a 'closed source app' exist do you mind telling us what it is. And if a binary only driver is available, then that's down to the supplier of the hardware, in'it?
'Windows does like to see a signature', westlake
Microsoft gets to approve what gets installedon my computer. Besides they are now selling a 'crapware' free computer, that's software from third party developers I assume.
MS even wanted to get a license for the "open source hardware"
'Remember that a key part of our strategy is to create a situation where even if Nick rejects us for philosophical reasons there is a long and visible history of our attempts to work with them and then we have to ask to get a license for the "open source hardware" and we will make our own offering on the commercial side'
If that didn't work, then they proposed creating their own 'open source' license and naming it "Education Open Source" or some such..
'I think we should name our new open source license and romance its creation. "Education Open Source" or something like that'
'When the minister took his business elsewhere there was suddenly room in OLPC for XP and MS Office', westlake
Security isn't a 'product' that you can bolt on. Security is something that has to be built in from the ground up. A primary function being irrevociable auditing of all activity on the system. How you can design a 'security product' that doesn't accuratly log activity beggers belief. These 'products' sound like the typical management process of covering their arses with certificates.
'Incomplete or inaccurate logging of who did what and when accounted for 58 percent of initial failures'
How accurate is it, does it handle 'regional' accents. How does it deal with grammar constructs.
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Making (microsoft) ACPI not work with Linux..
"Foxconn.. have several different tables, a group for Windws XP and Vista, a group for 2000, a group for NT, Me, 95, 98, etc. that just errors out, and one for LINUX.
The one for Linux points to a badly written table that does not correspond to the board's ACPI implementation, causing weird kernel errors, strange system freezing, no suspend or hibernate, and other problems"
'You are incorrect in that the motherboard is not ACPI complaint. If it were not, then it would not have received Microsoft Certification for WHQL', Foxconn
'unless it has application in the porn industry, it's dead in the water'
They were always early adopters of the 'new' technology..:)
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Making (microsoft) ACPI not work with Linux..
"Foxconn.. have several different tables, a group for Windws XP and Vista, a group for 2000, a group for NT, Me, 95, 98, etc. that just errors out, and one for LINUX.
The one for Linux points to a badly written table that does not correspond to the board's ACPI implementation, causing weird kernel errors, strange system freezing, no suspend or hibernate, and other problems"
'You are incorrect in that the motherboard is not ACPI complaint. If it were not, then it would not have received Microsoft Certification for WHQL', Foxconn
I see a use in wearables, devices built into your clothes..
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Making (microsoft) ACPI not work with Linux..
"Foxconn.. have several different tables, a group for Windws XP and Vista, a group for 2000, a group for NT, Me, 95, 98, etc. that just errors out, and one for LINUX.
The one for Linux points to a badly written table that does not correspond to the board's ACPI implementation, causing weird kernel errors, strange system freezing, no suspend or hibernate, and other problems"
'You are incorrect in that the motherboard is not ACPI complaint. If it were not, then it would not have received Microsoft Certification for WHQL', Foxconn
"Last night, we had the pleasure of talking with three members of the Windows 7 product development and planning team"
There's you problem right their, no mention of the people who actually write the code, and it's a little late to the party to figure out that the end users might have a clue as to what they want. A simple uncluttered desktop that does what you want.
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Key Words:
beta feedback, beta testers , bugs were squashed, change, compatibility,, data-gathering, development principles, discussions,, diverse set of datapoints, drilling , emotional value, enterprise customers, explanations, feedback, focus, footprints, fundamentals for PC experience, improve the experience., initial hypotheses , internal processes, iterating,, leverage, listening,, market research,, outreach,, partners , performance,, pipelines, planning,, primary research, process, product development and planning team, quantitative data, quantitative panels, reacting , richness of the Windows ecosystem, security, snapshots, surveys, telemetry data, tenets, the user experience perspective, trends, triangulation, UI decision, unsatisfying emotion
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i still deal with UNIX people sometimes and they want to write scripts for the simplest things that Windows will let you do in a GUI in seconds
.. but how long did it take you to read this one hundred page document. And what would a 'UNIX/Novell admin' be even doing migrating to a Windows box. And why can't you type the personal pronoun in upper case. It gets curiouser and curiouser .. :)
Yea, these uNIX people don't know nothing
"If I were, however, a little girl who felt betrayed by my corporate overlords making a deal with one of the most reliable companies on the planet, thus giving me and my fellow employees more job security, so I quit and .."
Novell gave away the family silver for a buch of vouchers. They also took to uttering vague IP protection threats against the Open Source community on their web site. They also stoped promoting their own desktop and recommended Windows instead. At least one of their technical people has the personaly integrity to resign. Person abuse from some a******e is not required.
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reliable at what exactly?
"I blame this kind of error messages on programmers .."
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I blame the people who designed a system where an expired certificate throws up such an error msg
"OK. So the government order Microsoft to document the protocols. Microsoft then does what the government asks. Now the government acknowledges that Microsoft has done what was asked. Somehow, the comments here make it seem like Microsoft made yet another mistake. Wasn't this what they asked Microsoft to do?
...
No, they were asked to open the specs not, after much delay, publish a mishmash of source code and API calls and then charge other compamies to connect their computers to their-own customers computers. What's difficult about producing an RFC. No doubt this undocumentation will be as deliveratly obscure as their previous efforts in that department
Early on, the debate about Net neutrality centered on the issue of tiered or metered pricing .. The argument now is much more complex and centers on control of content and applications on both the wired and wireless Internet.
If a carrier can pick and choose among different types of content and different types of applications, its competitors (and, ultimately, the users) are severely disadvantaged.
Is this something like the canSPAM act, the one that didn't .. can spam that is :)
"Imposing net neutrality may very well violate the takings clause of the US Constitution"
:)
Net neutrality isn't about restricting the telecoms, it's about preventing them in restricting my rights under the US constitution. And 'net neutrality' came about in response to the telecoms attempt to close off access to the networks in favour of their own offerings. Blacking access to third party telephone companies, skype for instance.
"Spin on all you want about government subsidies to telcos, but the fact is those telcos went and spent their own money on their infrastructure, and based how much they spent on charging for traffic across their networks in certain ways"
Fair enough, the telcos build the infrastructure and we pay for it. We don't require them to decide how we use it. I pay for my electricity, but I don't let the power company decide what I watch on television.
"Now, if the government imposes net neutrality, the government will be significanly reducing the revenue-producing value of the telco's property"
It hasn't stopped them making money up to now. Indeed if 'net neutrality' was in place, the Internet/Web would never have come about.
"And never forget - the only one who will win if net neutrality is imposed are the lawyers"
And never forget how the teleco lawyers are attempting to spin the term 'net neutrality' into something that means the exact opposite. A bit like the canSPAM act, that didn't
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A more robust citation is needed. Marked for Deletion.
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You have violated Wikipedia posting standards WP:NPOV, WP:NPV, WP:NEU, your account is hereby deleted.
signed ~~~~ some smug-self-absorbed-know-it-all-with-no-social-life
"After a full day of back in forth with an editor deleting whatever I had just added"
..
I sympathise with your experience. Myself gave up after repeated abuse from the so-called unbiased editors (after a simple request for some citations). One even posted a private email from me to the forum in order to deride it with a fellow unbiased editor. Wikipedia, a heap of self-serving corporate propaganda and free advertising pretending to be an Encyclopedia
"F-Secure researchers are calling attention to the fact that it's impossible to run third-party anti-virus on iPhones, because the SDK doesn't allow for it. It's a problem, as they claim malware will start to target the phone"
Why not use the same method the mawlare writers use. Oh, wait, it isn't possible unless the user explididly jailbreaks the device and uses the default password in SSH ..
"The retailer is the one raising their prices if you have certain cookies ..."
Where does it say anywhere that the retailer set different prices? Does ButterflyPhoto deny or confirm this is the case ?
"fucking with someone just because they are known to pay attention and actually try to take advantage of such schemes (Bing cookie present) is slimy business practice, to say the least"
Who is doing the 'fucking', who is the recipient fuckee ?
Did they include links to some real world examples of this shell code and can it be executed by clicking on an URL or openong an email attachment.
'This was not-so-widely reported during the Katrina situation, because people were too busy jumping on the "Katrina is Bush's Fault!" bandwagon. Funding was funneled away from the levees and put into other projects'
If Bush cut funding, how isn't this Bushs fault ?
'That isn't to say that the ACE isn't at fault either; some of the levees seem to have been poorly built, but I am not convinced this is due to malicious intent'
Yes, the construction was flimsey, because of lack of funds.
"While Katarina was ongoing, there were plenty of independent news outlets running video footage of professionals warning what would happen. It made the Bush mantra of "No one could have predicted..." out to be just as much of a joke as the "No one could have predicted..." 9-11 version. (And then the Aug 6th PDB title was released.)"
Exactly, so how a Judge could belatedly blame the Army Corps of Engineers, defies logic. Of course he couldn't every state the real reasons. That the levees failed because of their flimsy construction and funding was denied to pay for Bushs war in Iraq. Not only that Bush was warned in advance about Katrina, but took no action.
"President Bush is expected to shift $1.3 billion away from raising and armoring levees, installing floodgates and building permanent pumping in Southeast Louisiana in order to plug long-anticipated financial shortfalls in other hurricane-protection projects, a move Sen. David Vitter describes as a retreat from the president's commitment to protect the whole New Orleans area"
Why not contribute to SourceForge.net instead of unnecessarly duplicating it?
"-Fedora is 'too' comfortable with cutting edge changes, even to the point of releasing versions ahead of upstream *or* backporting .. This has been a longstanding tendency with RH (everyone probably remembers the gcc 2.96 debacle)"
...
I honestly don't, do you mind providing a link. Did people come in one morning and find their gcc 2.96 had automatically upgraded itself?
"something about the Ubuntu desktop feels, subjectively to me, more whole rather than merely a conglomeration of the parts. This may simply be a matter of certain tastes they appear to me, because I can't nail it down"
You gets what you pay for. But to answer why Ubuntu is more whole, maybe because there is Canonical behind it. But then again I have been a user of openSuSE, and while all the parts were there, they weren't as polished as a Ubuntu distro. I guess it's what you're used to and besides no one is forcing you to upgrade
"you can look forward to waking up one bright future morning from cryopreservation the proud owner of a bank account brimming with money!'"
Like how, once all electrical activity ceases in your brain, so do you ...
Does this Cuban have shares in MICROS~1
'One of the great strengths of the Windows platform is that it has always been licence-agnostic', westlake
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.. :)
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as long as it isn't the GPL
'The system never frets or complains when you try to install an app that doesn't meet Microsoft's standards of political correctness', westlake
Except with WGA, Microsoft can remotely disable your desktop if it deems it 'unlicensed' and they don't give a toss about unlicensed third-party software.
'The Linux distro can make you jump through a hoop or two or three before you get to that closed source app or binary driver', westlake
Except, a certain software company keeps threatening codec developers with litigation, therefore such codecs have to be supplied seperately. If such a 'closed source app' exist do you mind telling us what it is. And if a binary only driver is available, then that's down to the supplier of the hardware, in'it?
'Windows does like to see a signature', westlake
Microsoft gets to approve what gets installedon my computer. Besides they are now selling a 'crapware' free computer, that's software from third party developers I assume.
"We think we're really unlocking the potential of Windows 7 "
OLPC ran into trouble because of its "all or nothing" attidude, westlake
bs, there was much machinations behind the scene. In fact MS was initially going to join the project to 'help' it get better
'The meeting begin with a question by Marcelo on wether Microsoft felt the OLPC project would be successful without its involvement '
MS even wanted to get a license for the "open source hardware"
'Remember that a key part of our strategy is to create a situation where even if Nick rejects us for philosophical reasons there is a long and visible history of our attempts to work with them and then we have to ask to get a license for the "open source hardware" and we will make our own offering on the commercial side'
If that didn't work, then they proposed creating their own 'open source' license and naming it "Education Open Source" or some such
'I think we should name our new open source license and romance its creation. "Education Open Source" or something like that'
'When the minister took his business elsewhere there was suddenly room in OLPC for XP and MS Office', westlake
You're comments are becoming ludicrous here
Security isn't a 'product' that you can bolt on. Security is something that has to be built in from the ground up. A primary function being irrevociable auditing of all activity on the system. How you can design a 'security product' that doesn't accuratly log activity beggers belief. These 'products' sound like the typical management process of covering their arses with certificates.
'Incomplete or inaccurate logging of who did what and when accounted for 58 percent of initial failures'
How accurate is it, does it handle 'regional' accents. How does it deal with grammar constructs.
..
.. have several different tables, a group for Windws XP and Vista, a group for 2000, a group for NT, Me, 95, 98, etc. that just errors out, and one for LINUX.
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Making (microsoft) ACPI not work with Linux
"Foxconn
The one for Linux points to a badly written table that does not correspond to the board's ACPI implementation, causing weird kernel errors, strange system freezing, no suspend or hibernate, and other problems"
'You are incorrect in that the motherboard is not ACPI complaint. If it were not, then it would not have received Microsoft Certification for WHQL', Foxconn
'One thing I find myself wondering about is whether we shouldn't try and make the "ACPI" extensions somehow Windows specific ', billg Jan 1999
'unless it has application in the porn industry, it's dead in the water'
.. :)
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.. have several different tables, a group for Windws XP and Vista, a group for 2000, a group for NT, Me, 95, 98, etc. that just errors out, and one for LINUX.
They were always early adopters of the 'new' technology
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Making (microsoft) ACPI not work with Linux
"Foxconn
The one for Linux points to a badly written table that does not correspond to the board's ACPI implementation, causing weird kernel errors, strange system freezing, no suspend or hibernate, and other problems"
'You are incorrect in that the motherboard is not ACPI complaint. If it were not, then it would not have received Microsoft Certification for WHQL', Foxconn
'One thing I find myself wondering about is whether we shouldn't try and make the "ACPI" extensions somehow Windows specific ', billg Jan 1999
I see a use in wearables, devices built into your clothes ..
..
.. have several different tables, a group for Windws XP and Vista, a group for 2000, a group for NT, Me, 95, 98, etc. that just errors out, and one for LINUX.
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Making (microsoft) ACPI not work with Linux
"Foxconn
The one for Linux points to a badly written table that does not correspond to the board's ACPI implementation, causing weird kernel errors, strange system freezing, no suspend or hibernate, and other problems"
'You are incorrect in that the motherboard is not ACPI complaint. If it were not, then it would not have received Microsoft Certification for WHQL', Foxconn
'One thing I find myself wondering about is whether we shouldn't try and make the "ACPI" extensions somehow Windows specific ', billg Jan 1999
"Last night, we had the pleasure of talking with three members of the Windows 7 product development and planning team"
There's you problem right their, no mention of the people who actually write the code, and it's a little late to the party to figure out that the end users might have a clue as to what they want. A simple uncluttered desktop that does what you want.
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Key Words:
beta feedback, beta testers , bugs were squashed, change, compatibility,, data-gathering, development principles, discussions,, diverse set of datapoints, drilling , emotional value, enterprise customers, explanations, feedback, focus, footprints, fundamentals for PC experience, improve the experience., initial hypotheses , internal processes, iterating,, leverage, listening,, market research,, outreach,, partners , performance,, pipelines, planning,, primary research, process, product development and planning team, quantitative data, quantitative panels, reacting , richness of the Windows ecosystem, security, snapshots, surveys, telemetry data, tenets, the user experience perspective, trends, triangulation, UI decision, unsatisfying emotion