That's funny to hear, 'cuz the way i read ZD's crap their bias is against Microsoft products. Either way, their articles are untruthful, unresearched and as far as i'm concerned, unread.
P.S. If they'd put Halflife instead of Halflife: Opposing Force I might believe their lie about a misprint. I've worked for a news organization before and when you mess up you don't acidentally add words, you leave them out.
There were women working on sats since the voyager days. So the team that built this one is all female. Big deal. Most of us already knew that women were good at math and science.
Have you ever written or used a word macro? I don't think you have or you'd know how stupid your post is. When you use word as your mail editor, it just shoves the raw text into word. You'd have to be stupid enough to open the word document attached to the original e-mail to activate a macro. Sorry for that, just ingorant posts annoy the shit out of me. If you've made it this far, the blame sits on your IT departments shoulders as well as the users. My organization had no ill effects from melissa, because i've trained my users enough not to open strange.exes and i took it upon myself to disable macros. MS makes a handy dandy patch for 97 that lets you password protect the normal.dot file & office 2000 comes with macros disabled by default.
BTW i do agree that an MCSE is way too easy to get. The paper puppys scare me shitless, i had one that was a full msce and couldn't set up TCP/IP for a DHCP server.
You make it illegal to port scan or winnuke and make the penalities anything more than a slap on the wrist and the real hackers are going to make a mockery of the press and pigs. They'll arrest grandma on her AOL account and figure out that they were dupped by a IP spoofer right before grandma slaps the city with a wrongful prosecution suit. ** I don't want the script kiddies in jail. I want the guy that can shut down the pacific northwest's power grid sitting in a cell if anyone needs to be. Or, maybe the terminally stupid could turn off file and print sharing, and stop installing things they don't understand, or resist running that latest app that was attached to their e-mail.
BTW I haven't read anything very on-the-ball from Mr. D since I stopped reading his cooking recipes in the back of Boardwatch.
Are we talking installing the OS, or the OS and a full suite of applications? Either way you're build scripts must be horrible. Experience will tell you what changes need a reboot and what all you can get away with installing before you need to reboot. The only win98 install hang i've seen recently was due to a bad DIMM.
(Just to be fair, what hardware is in those computer's you're setting up?)
The version on win98 that ships with dell computers (NT too) isn't the same as the version sold in stores. Don't believe me? Ask dell or microsoft why Office 2000 didn't ship with dell computers right after it was released. It was because the were differences in the registry (dell's version had incorrect security settings on a few keys) that prevented Outlook 2000 from installing.
I really think you misread my post. Slow down and stop injecting your own ideas in between my lines. I never said that 98 rulez, is stable or even what i'd like to be using. I said his install times didn't jive with my experience.
And to clarify: I've used linksys cards in systems with other cards and they were still both detected. Now, I have not attempted to duplicate his result with the same hardware, so your mileage may vary.
First off, we don't have an impartial judge here. So many grains of salt must be added to this article. Second, Win98 takes about 28 minutes. Did 5 last week on different hardware, and it was about the same. Also the Win98 setup takes about 5 minutes of your time. Then you leave and come back in about half an hour and it's done. Lastly the Linksys card he's mentions in the article. I only use linksys and have never had one not autodetect in the install. At worst it installs as an NE2000 adapter, which will work. The install times are really driven by experience. I do Windows installs and am familiar with them, and other than waiting for ti to copy files from the CD it all goes quickly. I bet if I setup linux boxes (any flavor) all the time those would go quickly too.
OJ. Ever since then the tabloids have had just as credible stories as the "news". Which is why my information about the world comes from places like/. not spoon fed to me thru my idiot box or from the slanted BS in the newspaper.
/. rocks for news. All kinds of news. And proof that the media lies and invents facts is nice to see. I think everyone who reads here often already knew this, but it's nice to see them get caught once in a while.
Why is your reply not a list of URLs to machines that can and DO do what he says linux can't? Why is it, NT can't either? NT can do ultra high availability sites, it's just expensive as hell and you need to monitor it. A lot.
BTW: I second your complaint about people bitching they can't get their systems to stay up when we all know it can be done if your not an idot. Unfortunately i see it when linux guys are whinning that their NT server won't stay up.
Are you retarded? Most people are too stupid to notice they surrendered their freedom, they've bought into the propaganda that their trading liberties they don't need for saftey. Thought sterilization has been going on for quite a while, i just hope the 'netters of the world keep it limited to television.
I personally like the software and processing done at my desk. It's bad enough when the network goes down now or the internet get laggy, imagine with these things!! Now only e-mail and file sharing would be down, with these inexpensive (until you do the math) clients EVERYTHING would be down. No way...
Maybe some sneaky person will solve this new socket problem the same way they solved the Celeron socket problem:
I just bought a new play server and want the price performance of a celeron but want to be able to move to a PIII if I need it.
So after a little searching I found that some smart guy has made a slot 1 board with a socket 370 mount on it. So i pop the celeron on that and then use my PIII compatible motherboard.
Hopefully someone will do the same for this new AMD socket 423, because if all the reports I see are correct, the Athlon screams.
I agree completely with point B, bad name. As for point A, if these keys will allow nyone with them to compromise system security, as we can see it does with the demo distributed in the original report, it'd be really bad news if someone else got a copy. Therefore I can see why there wouldn't be backups all over the place, also if the key in your version of windows was damaged the backup would prevent you from having to reinstall (always a good thing for me).
As for the NSA, they are evil, sneaky and powerful, so i can't believe Microsoft on this one. But I fully believe that even if the NSA isn't given a copy of the key, they could easily derive it. (PS. That's easily for them, not that it'd be easy to do)
Quoted from the article: "...like Davis, who are relatively brazen and unskilled, according to federal law enforcement officials and computer security experts.
"It is not that these are super whiz kids; it is the technology that gives them the ability to cover their tracks enough that you can have a hard time making a criminal case against them," said a senior federal investigator. "
So he didn't have any mad skills, but he walked all over government servers?! Is this an advertisment that govermnet servers have poor admins and no security?
Fix the servers!! Stop wasting my money chasing script kiddies around the internet and make the server safe from all but the truely skilled hackers.
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That's funny to hear, 'cuz the way i read ZD's crap their bias is against Microsoft products. Either way, their articles are untruthful, unresearched and as far as i'm concerned, unread.
P.S. If they'd put Halflife instead of Halflife: Opposing Force I might believe their lie about a misprint. I've worked for a news organization before and when you mess up you don't acidentally add words, you leave them out.
There were women working on sats since the voyager days. So the team that built this one is all female. Big deal. Most of us already knew that women were good at math and science.
Have you ever written or used a word macro? I don't think you have or you'd know how stupid your post is. When you use word as your mail editor, it just shoves the raw text into word. You'd have to be stupid enough to open the word document attached to the original e-mail to activate a macro. .exes and i took it upon myself to disable macros.
Sorry for that, just ingorant posts annoy the shit out of me. If you've made it this far, the blame sits on your IT departments shoulders as well as the users. My organization had no ill effects from melissa, because i've trained my users enough not to open strange
MS makes a handy dandy patch for 97 that lets you password protect the normal.dot file & office 2000 comes with macros disabled by default.
BTW i do agree that an MCSE is way too easy to get. The paper puppys scare me shitless, i had one that was a full msce and couldn't set up TCP/IP for a DHCP server.
You make it illegal to port scan or winnuke and make the penalities anything more than a slap on the wrist and the real hackers are going to make a mockery of the press and pigs.
They'll arrest grandma on her AOL account and figure out that they were dupped by a IP spoofer right before grandma slaps the city with a wrongful prosecution suit.
** I don't want the script kiddies in jail. I want the guy that can shut down the pacific northwest's power grid sitting in a cell if anyone needs to be.
Or, maybe the terminally stupid could turn off file and print sharing, and stop installing things they don't understand, or resist running that latest app that was attached to their e-mail.
BTW I haven't read anything very on-the-ball from Mr. D since I stopped reading his cooking recipes in the back of Boardwatch.
Are we talking installing the OS, or the OS and a full suite of applications? Either way you're build scripts must be horrible. Experience will tell you what changes need a reboot and what all you can get away with installing before you need to reboot.
The only win98 install hang i've seen recently was due to a bad DIMM.
(Just to be fair, what hardware is in those computer's you're setting up?)
The version on win98 that ships with dell computers (NT too) isn't the same as the version sold in stores.
Don't believe me? Ask dell or microsoft why Office 2000 didn't ship with dell computers right after it was released.
It was because the were differences in the registry (dell's version had incorrect security settings on a few keys) that prevented Outlook 2000 from installing.
I really think you misread my post. Slow down and stop injecting your own ideas in between my lines.
I never said that 98 rulez, is stable or even what i'd like to be using. I said his install times didn't jive with my experience.
And to clarify:
I've used linksys cards in systems with other cards and they were still both detected.
Now, I have not attempted to duplicate his result with the same hardware, so your mileage may vary.
First off, we don't have an impartial judge here. So many grains of salt must be added to this article.
Second, Win98 takes about 28 minutes. Did 5 last week on different hardware, and it was about the same. Also the Win98 setup takes about 5 minutes of your time. Then you leave and come back in about half an hour and it's done.
Lastly the Linksys card he's mentions in the article. I only use linksys and have never had one not autodetect in the install. At worst it installs as an NE2000 adapter, which will work.
The install times are really driven by experience. I do Windows installs and am familiar with them, and other than waiting for ti to copy files from the CD it all goes quickly. I bet if I setup linux boxes (any flavor) all the time those would go quickly too.
OJ. Ever since then the tabloids have had just as credible stories as the "news". Which is why my information about the world comes from places like /. not spoon fed to me thru my idiot box or from the slanted BS in the newspaper.
/. rocks for news. All kinds of news. And proof that the media lies and invents facts is nice to see. I think everyone who reads here often already knew this, but it's nice to see them get caught once in a while.
The media doesn't report bad news. They seek it out, scouring the earth for the freaks and unlucky to give them their 15 mintues of infamy.
Why is your reply not a list of URLs to machines that can and DO do what he says linux can't? Why is it, NT can't either?
NT can do ultra high availability sites, it's just expensive as hell and you need to monitor it. A lot.
BTW: I second your complaint about people bitching they can't get their systems to stay up when we all know it can be done if your not an idot. Unfortunately i see it when linux guys are whinning that their NT server won't stay up.
I'm noth saying that there aren't more evil than Tipper. But i don't care why she ignored the first amendment.
Without the adapter, i have no upgrade path (other than another celeron). So this keeps me upgradable until something i can't buy yet is the standard.
How could anyone vote for someone who's wife can't grasp the concepts behind the first amendment?
Are you retarded? Most people are too stupid to notice they surrendered their freedom, they've bought into the propaganda that their trading liberties they don't need for saftey.
Thought sterilization has been going on for quite a while, i just hope the 'netters of the world keep it limited to television.
I personally like the software and processing done at my desk. It's bad enough when the network goes down now or the internet get laggy, imagine with these things!! Now only e-mail and file sharing would be down, with these inexpensive (until you do the math) clients EVERYTHING would be down.
No way...
I just bought a new play server and want the price performance of a celeron but want to be able to move to a PIII if I need it.
So after a little searching I found that some smart guy has made a slot 1 board with a socket 370 mount on it. So i pop the celeron on that and then use my PIII compatible motherboard.
Hopefully someone will do the same for this new AMD socket 423, because if all the reports I see are correct, the Athlon screams.
BTW, those sneaky people who made the converter, Asus. ASUS S370 "Slocket" CPUConverter
I agree completely with point B, bad name. As for point A, if these keys will allow nyone with them to compromise system security, as we can see it does with the demo distributed in the original report, it'd be really bad news if someone else got a copy. Therefore I can see why there wouldn't be backups all over the place, also if the key in your version of windows was damaged the backup would prevent you from having to reinstall (always a good thing for me).
As for the NSA, they are evil, sneaky and powerful, so i can't believe Microsoft on this one. But I fully believe that even if the NSA isn't given a copy of the key, they could easily derive it. (PS. That's easily for them, not that it'd be easy to do)
Quoted from the article:
"...like Davis, who are relatively brazen and unskilled, according to federal law enforcement officials and computer security experts.
"It is not that these are super whiz kids; it is the technology that gives them the ability to cover their tracks enough that you can have a hard time making a criminal case against them," said a senior federal investigator. "
So he didn't have any mad skills, but he walked all over government servers?! Is this an advertisment that govermnet servers have poor admins and no security?
Fix the servers!! Stop wasting my money chasing script kiddies around the internet and make the server safe from all but the truely skilled hackers.