Will there be partial credit for flamebait or troll comments?
Flamebait, only if a fish hooks your bait and burns its mouth.
Trolls, similar to flamebait given you have to hook somebody and troll them along the line. Crapflooding or stupid shit like that that gets modded "troll" only because there isn't an "asshat" moderation recieves minus half a point.
I haven't seen a good definition of what constitutes "human" or not, just a lot of mocking and ad-hominem attacks on "closed-minded ignorant religious nuts". Why don't you give me a better definition than, "Contains 100% human DNA, and able to be grown into a fully-functional human being." Then I'll concede, and not before.
That's easy by changing a couple words. "Contains 100% human DNA, and has grown into a fully-functional human being."
All ambiguity gone, and clumps of cells which can't exist outside of a host are not covered in the definition.
Having said that, I usually vote Republican, though I consider myself a moderate... if it weren't for the Democrat's stupid fiscal and monetary policies, I'd vote for them;-)
Do you see the Republican's actual policies as being any better? I know they talk a good story about wanting smaller government and all of that, but when it comes down to it do you see that much of a difference between the Dems and the Repubs?
I think both groups are essentially garbage wrapped in skin. The one thing the Dems have going for them is that they aren't catering to the sick twisted fundamentalist zealots that this country was founded for the explicit purpose of keeping from having any say in government. Looks like that bit got screwed somewhere along the line.
The only professional cert that I've ever heard of that comes close to difficulty the PE is the actuarial exams, because you have to take something like 11 of them, I don't know if they are harder than getting the engineering degree and taking the test but 11 tests over the better part of a decade would really suck.
I was thinking of taking a few of these a while back, so I did some practice tests and studying. The first couple of exams would have been very easy. I had just finished my BS in Math, but I haven't ever taken any statistics classes.
Now, given that and given that I haven't taken the PE exam either, I will proceed to talk out of my ass and say most likely the PE exam is harder.
And that leads to us to those wonderful few days women have every month. Gee, thanks god. I really appreciate that./sarcasm
There is an easy way around that whole business. My wife has had about 3 of those sets of days since we met. You know those green pills in birth control packs (color may vary, and some don't even have them, but regardless) those are placebos. If, rather than taking the placebos for 5 days, they just start a new pack, then voila no more periods.
The funny thing about the grandparent's post is that I cannot get my dvd player working in windows, in either my wife's laptop, or my desktop. In linux they work though. Go figure.
Are you using a version of XP you bought yourself as opposed to one that came pre installed?
If so, MS didn't want to pay the MPAA/CSS tax and decided to pass that cost on to you. You will need to buy a DVD player with support for it to work. Other than that, no idea.
My non-Linux annoyance is people using the word "hella" in order to be cool. It's not a word, doofus.
They're not even doing it to "be cool". I'm sure even they realize that it isn't. It's just a bay area thing (SF Bay area that is). Nobody else uses that lame ass expression. Not even anywhere else in California.
burn DVDs in Linux....both from video capture files and copies of my more expensive ones for traveling. (yes I know it's not technically legal in the USA, but I'm in Canada where there is no DMCA yet, so as far as I know fair use still extends even to digital media)
It is perfectly legal to burn as many copies of your own DVD as you want in the US contrary to what the MPAA would have you believe. You can't then give away or sell these copies due to copyright law. You can't rip the DVD via DeCSS or somesuch due to the DMCA.
You buy virtual "boosters", gain virtual cards, which you, if you collect entire sets, can convert to real paper-cards, with "real" value. And I cant remember seeing any restrictions on selling these for real cash as well.
The crappy thing about their model is that you pay the same amount for virtual cards as you do for real cards. Given the way the rarity works in the booster packs, you will end up with a crap load of worthless (in the real or virtual worlds) common cards before you can make a complete set to actually get the real cards.
Yes. Even though you are not an "insider" of the company you intend to short, your knowledge of the announcement and its effects on the competitor's stock still falls under the category of insider information
What if you are sitting at the web site of your trading site with your order all set up and your mouse hovering over submit and click it just as the announcement is made?
First of all, it's easy to not install Windows Media Player, or replace it with another App. See "Program Access and Defaults" icon that is on the start menu! So where's my refund for this product I didn't order and won't use?
Pure Communism isn't possible because of human nature.
I hear this mccarthyism trotted out from time to time by americans. Without getting to long winded, i would disagree. Human nature is basically one of co-operation.
It's hardly a McCarthyism. Humans do indeed have cooperation built into us. I never said we didn't. There is greed and selfishness in our nature too. These things exist in varying proportions in different people throughout the population. Now if there were a perfect communistic society with everybody working to the best of their ability for the benefit of the whole, assuming such benefit could even be adequately defined, all it would take would be one sociopath to destroy the whole thing. Just like in a world of pacifists, all it takes is one mutant with a lust for violence to take control and fuck things up for everybody.
the problem is pure capitalism is not possible as pure communism is not possible
Pure Communism isn't possible because of human nature.
Pure Capitalism is absolutely possible. It consists of one company who everybody works for. Most work for room and board. Some work for a bit more; their job to hold guns on the most. Very few enjoy all of the benefits.
This is why anti-trust laws are critical to the free functioning of the market. The free market is the environment in which capitalism can do best for progress *and* liberty.
Maybe yes, maybe no. The "average" NT/2000/XP install at a business is done by people whose job it is to do that. In theory, their job is also to have it configured relatively securely and keep up on updates.
and i highly doubt they were "unsecured", if these people went through the trouble of installing linux on a work machine they probably have moderate clue.
Again, maybe yes, maybe no. If they know enough about it that they want to install it, then they are probably somewhat clued. To be able to install most modern distributions takes barely more intelligence than your average bag of rocks. Will the bag of rocks know to immediately update the system since the CD is most likely already out of date?
this guy sounds like he is getting overly paraniod about something he more than likely doesnt understand.
An alternative interpretation for those who read the article would be that he is proactively recognizing a potential hole in his system and putting together a policy and approved install image. Sounds more like he knows his job, is happy to have people using Linux, but just wants to make sure his network is protected.
You could then have a couple more guys with ropes connected to a wedge that sits behind the stone, constantly moving right behind it so that a stop for any reason would immediately rest on the wedge.
Possible.
I'll still take the front if you don't mind though;-)
So your employers paid for 3 copies of Windows, and yet you think Microsoft does not have monopoly power?
No, I know that they have monopoly power. My point is that I also know that that monopoly is built upon a farce. There isn't a need for windows in a lot of cases. I'm not aware of anything MS makes that isn't available through some other vendor, OSS or otherwise. Most people are terrified of computers and of change which adds to the inertia.
Your assertion was that it isn't possible to go to your employer and say, "I want to install Linux".
I refuted that with one piece of anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
I play a card game called Magic, and made a database of all the cards using the text files Wizards of the Coast have on their website and some perl to clean the lists up since they have no freaking consistency between the lists of card sets. I dumped it and imported it at work once I had my Linux box set up.
Now, this is about as simple a database as you can have. I mean it's one table. I put a web front end on it so you can search for certain characteristics and get results with pictures of the cards using perl via CGI. Real simple stuff if you know anything at all about this stuff. I showed it to our lead architect who plays as well. He thought it was cool, and asked what I was using to run it. (MySQL, Perl, Apache) I asked him if he wanted a copy and told him it was bog standard. The only thing specific was perl. Bare bones SQL and CGI will import fine into the associated MS products, so there wouldn't be any effort involved. He was like, "Well, I've thought about looking at that open stuff but I sold my soul to MS".
I mean that's just nutty given that he is bright and good with computers, programming, architecture and all that.
The point is that that is the kind of environment I'm working in but once I had been there for a little while and showed my value I just had to ask and I did receive.
It's been one week, and already I'll work with one of the other developers at my desk doing the same (more or less) tasks that they've been doing for years and they'll keep going whoa, how did you do that, cripes that takes me forever etc. etc.
Hate to break it to you, but if you're using Citrix on Windows, you're "using Windows". Thus, you are support for, not against, the position that Microsoft is still effectively a requirement in most corporations.
You're not "breaking" anything to me.
You'll note I said, "Now, we are using Citrix on Windows.", Indicating that I am aware that this isn't a perfect example. It certainly isn't an example of my corporation having any requirement to use windows, they just do. I could use the web access and drop Citrix, but they have already paid for 3 windows licenses for me. One that came with the machine, one they put on the machine over the original one and one to use Citrix.
This is merely a lack of comprehension on the part of my employers that they're being raped. I have no need to use any MS products to do my job more efficiently than my coworkers who only know windows.
What a load of crap. Try walking into any big company and suggesting that you should be able to run linux on your desk.
That's what I did. I said I want to set up a dual boot. They said will a 120G drive be ok for that? I said that's kind of overkill, can I get something smaller? They said that's the smallest we can get. I said 120G it is.
Not even the most linux-loving among us can practically use it for his desktop O/S.
B.S.
Now, we are using Citrix on Windows. The Linux Citrix client works great so I can check my email and calendar (outlook) while I can actually get my development work done faster and more easily with a Linux desktop.
It has been this way since the Clinton Administration. You just now are noticing? Oh must be they were just violating the rights of people you don't agree with now.
My, you're a stupid git, aren't you?
Little neo-con nitwits like yourself are fond of redirecting criticism of the current scumbags to the previous scumbags ignoring the fact that they're still scumbags.
Meet the new con. Same as the old con. It's still a con game.
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Will there be partial credit for flamebait or troll comments?
Flamebait, only if a fish hooks your bait and burns its mouth.
Trolls, similar to flamebait given you have to hook somebody and troll them along the line. Crapflooding or stupid shit like that that gets modded "troll" only because there isn't an "asshat" moderation recieves minus half a point.
The people that RUN THE FSCKING GRID do not know what went wrong and /. is posting articles asking if X caused it???
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Wild speculation is our business.
Which is hilarious considering your
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I think you've been around a bit.
I suppose we'll find out the facts soon enough, though.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have an optomist among us.
I haven't seen a good definition of what constitutes "human" or not, just a lot of mocking and ad-hominem attacks on "closed-minded ignorant religious nuts". Why don't you give me a better definition than, "Contains 100% human DNA, and able to be grown into a fully-functional human being." Then I'll concede, and not before.
That's easy by changing a couple words.
"Contains 100% human DNA, and has grown into a fully-functional human being."
All ambiguity gone, and clumps of cells which can't exist outside of a host are not covered in the definition.
Happy now?
Having said that, I usually vote Republican, though I consider myself a moderate... if it weren't for the Democrat's stupid fiscal and monetary policies, I'd vote for them ;-)
Do you see the Republican's actual policies as being any better?
I know they talk a good story about wanting smaller government and all of that, but when it comes down to it do you see that much of a difference between the Dems and the Repubs?
I think both groups are essentially garbage wrapped in skin. The one thing the Dems have going for them is that they aren't catering to the sick twisted fundamentalist zealots that this country was founded for the explicit purpose of keeping from having any say in government.
Looks like that bit got screwed somewhere along the line.
The only professional cert that I've ever heard of that comes close to difficulty the PE is the actuarial exams, because you have to take something like 11 of them, I don't know if they are harder than getting the engineering degree and taking the test but 11 tests over the better part of a decade would really suck.
I was thinking of taking a few of these a while back, so I did some practice tests and studying. The first couple of exams would have been very easy. I had just finished my BS in Math, but I haven't ever taken any statistics classes.
Now, given that and given that I haven't taken the PE exam either, I will proceed to talk out of my ass and say most likely the PE exam is harder.
I don't have any details, and I don't particularly want them..
Yikes.
My wife doesn't have those probs. She started doing it long before I met her though, so maybe it's something that only happens at first.
And that leads to us to those wonderful few days women have every month. Gee, thanks god. I really appreciate that. /sarcasm
There is an easy way around that whole business.
My wife has had about 3 of those sets of days since we met.
You know those green pills in birth control packs (color may vary, and some don't even have them, but regardless) those are placebos. If, rather than taking the placebos for 5 days, they just start a new pack, then voila no more periods.
It kicks ass, let me tell you.
The funny thing about the grandparent's post is that I cannot get my dvd player working in windows, in either my wife's laptop, or my desktop. In linux they work though. Go figure.
Are you using a version of XP you bought yourself as opposed to one that came pre installed?
If so, MS didn't want to pay the MPAA/CSS tax and decided to pass that cost on to you.
You will need to buy a DVD player with support for it to work.
Other than that, no idea.
My non-Linux annoyance is people using the word "hella" in order to be cool. It's not a word, doofus.
They're not even doing it to "be cool". I'm sure even they realize that it isn't.
It's just a bay area thing (SF Bay area that is).
Nobody else uses that lame ass expression. Not even anywhere else in California.
burn DVDs in Linux. ...both from video capture files and copies of my more expensive ones for traveling. (yes I know it's not technically legal in the USA, but I'm in Canada where there is no DMCA yet, so as far as I know fair use still extends even to digital media)
It is perfectly legal to burn as many copies of your own DVD as you want in the US contrary to what the MPAA would have you believe.
You can't then give away or sell these copies due to copyright law.
You can't rip the DVD via DeCSS or somesuch due to the DMCA.
You can't be serious! Why would anyone want to work with MySQL when they can use Oracle's database?
Because they want a very fast, simple to maintain database server for an application which requires no transactional integrity?
You buy virtual "boosters", gain virtual cards, which you, if you collect entire sets, can convert to real paper-cards, with "real" value. And I cant remember seeing any restrictions on selling these for real cash as well.
The crappy thing about their model is that you pay the same amount for virtual cards as you do for real cards. Given the way the rarity works in the booster packs, you will end up with a crap load of worthless (in the real or virtual worlds) common cards before you can make a complete set to actually get the real cards.
Yes. Even though you are not an "insider" of the company you intend to short, your knowledge of the announcement and its effects on the competitor's stock still falls under the category of insider information
What if you are sitting at the web site of your trading site with your order all set up and your mouse hovering over submit and click it just as the announcement is made?
First of all, it's easy to not install Windows Media Player, or replace it with another App. See "Program Access and Defaults" icon that is on the start menu!
So where's my refund for this product I didn't order and won't use?
Pure Communism isn't possible because of human nature.
I hear this mccarthyism trotted out from time to time by americans. Without getting to long winded, i would disagree. Human nature is basically one of co-operation.
It's hardly a McCarthyism. Humans do indeed have cooperation built into us. I never said we didn't. There is greed and selfishness in our nature too. These things exist in varying proportions in different people throughout the population. Now if there were a perfect communistic society with everybody working to the best of their ability for the benefit of the whole, assuming such benefit could even be adequately defined, all it would take would be one sociopath to destroy the whole thing.
Just like in a world of pacifists, all it takes is one mutant with a lust for violence to take control and fuck things up for everybody.
the problem is pure capitalism is not possible
as pure communism is not possible
Pure Communism isn't possible because of human nature.
Pure Capitalism is absolutely possible.
It consists of one company who everybody works for.
Most work for room and board. Some work for a bit more; their job to hold guns on the most.
Very few enjoy all of the benefits.
This is why anti-trust laws are critical to the free functioning of the market.
The free market is the environment in which capitalism can do best for progress *and* liberty.
or worse... Forced to use the WinME upgrade edition from a base win95a installation
You are a sick and evil person.
Now, that said, if I'm ever really pissed off at somebody I'll be consulting you for tips.
no worse than the average NT/2000/XP install.
Maybe yes, maybe no. The "average" NT/2000/XP install at a business is done by people whose job it is to do that. In theory, their job is also to have it configured relatively securely and keep up on updates.
and i highly doubt they were "unsecured", if these people went through the trouble of installing linux on a work machine they probably have moderate clue.
Again, maybe yes, maybe no. If they know enough about it that they want to install it, then they are probably somewhat clued. To be able to install most modern distributions takes barely more intelligence than your average bag of rocks.
Will the bag of rocks know to immediately update the system since the CD is most likely already out of date?
this guy sounds like he is getting overly paraniod about something he more than likely doesnt understand.
An alternative interpretation for those who read the article would be that he is proactively recognizing a potential hole in his system and putting together a policy and approved install image.
Sounds more like he knows his job, is happy to have people using Linux, but just wants to make sure his network is protected.
you may as well be relying of cosmic rays to flip bits for you.
You mean there's another way?
You could then have a couple more guys with ropes connected to a wedge that sits behind the stone, constantly moving right behind it so that a stop for any reason would immediately rest on the wedge.
;-)
Possible.
I'll still take the front if you don't mind though
So your employers paid for 3 copies of Windows, and yet you think Microsoft does not have monopoly power?
No, I know that they have monopoly power.
My point is that I also know that that monopoly is built upon a farce.
There isn't a need for windows in a lot of cases.
I'm not aware of anything MS makes that isn't available through some other vendor, OSS or otherwise.
Most people are terrified of computers and of change which adds to the inertia.
Your assertion was that it isn't possible to go to your employer and say, "I want to install Linux".
I refuted that with one piece of anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
I play a card game called Magic, and made a database of all the cards using the text files Wizards of the Coast have on their website and some perl to clean the lists up since they have no freaking consistency between the lists of card sets. I dumped it and imported it at work once I had my Linux box set up.
Now, this is about as simple a database as you can have. I mean it's one table.
I put a web front end on it so you can search for certain characteristics and get results with pictures of the cards using perl via CGI.
Real simple stuff if you know anything at all about this stuff.
I showed it to our lead architect who plays as well.
He thought it was cool, and asked what I was using to run it. (MySQL, Perl, Apache)
I asked him if he wanted a copy and told him it was bog standard. The only thing specific was perl. Bare bones SQL and CGI will import fine into the associated MS products, so there wouldn't be any effort involved.
He was like, "Well, I've thought about looking at that open stuff but I sold my soul to MS".
I mean that's just nutty given that he is bright and good with computers, programming, architecture and all that.
The point is that that is the kind of environment I'm working in but once I had been there for a little while and showed my value I just had to ask and I did receive.
It's been one week, and already I'll work with one of the other developers at my desk doing the same (more or less) tasks that they've been doing for years and they'll keep going whoa, how did you do that, cripes that takes me forever etc. etc.
Hate to break it to you, but if you're using Citrix on Windows, you're "using Windows". Thus, you are support for, not against, the position that Microsoft is still effectively a requirement in most corporations.
You're not "breaking" anything to me.
You'll note I said, "Now, we are using Citrix on Windows.", Indicating that I am aware that this isn't a perfect example.
It certainly isn't an example of my corporation having any requirement to use windows, they just do.
I could use the web access and drop Citrix, but they have already paid for 3 windows licenses for me. One that came with the machine, one they put on the machine over the original one and one to use Citrix.
This is merely a lack of comprehension on the part of my employers that they're being raped.
I have no need to use any MS products to do my job more efficiently than my coworkers who only know windows.
What a load of crap. Try walking into any big company and suggesting that you should be able to run linux on your desk.
That's what I did. I said I want to set up a dual boot. They said will a 120G drive be ok for that?
I said that's kind of overkill, can I get something smaller? They said that's the smallest we can get.
I said 120G it is.
Not even the most linux-loving among us can practically use it for his desktop O/S.
B.S.
Now, we are using Citrix on Windows. The Linux Citrix client works great so I can check my email and calendar (outlook) while I can actually get my development work done faster and more easily with a Linux desktop.
It has been this way since the Clinton Administration. You just now are noticing?
Oh must be they were just violating the rights of people you don't agree with now.
My, you're a stupid git, aren't you?
Little neo-con nitwits like yourself are fond of redirecting criticism of the current scumbags to the previous scumbags ignoring the fact that they're still scumbags.
Meet the new con. Same as the old con.
It's still a con game.