The "idiot" probably makes more in a week than you and me in our entire lives.
Your point?
He is an idiot. A PC will probably need an OS eventually, but it most definitely does NOT need to be included for the computer to operate. Anyone who's ever built their own machine can tell you that.
There is a very good technical reason not to support win98.
Exactly. Which is why I had the second paragraph. My point was, you shouldn't go out of your way to exclude platforms, but at the same time you shouldn't put in a ton of extra work for obscure platforms unless that's your goal.
So how long are they suppose to be supporting the Win9x OSes? 2 more years? 5? 10? 20? Until there aren't any more Win9x users? But if all of the Win9x users have their OSS software continue to support Win9x, what incentive do they have to upgrade? They obviously don't care about bugs or viruses if they're still using Win9x software after all these years.
Until there's a good technical reason not too? It's not your responsibility to give people incentives to upgrade. In a lot of cases it makes more sense to continue using an already working system than to upgrade for upgrading's sake. And if viruses were a concern, they wouldn't be using any version Windows.
As another poster said, there's a good technical reason for Firefox no longer supporting older Windows. But when there's not, with a little care while programming, software for Win XP will usually run on Windows 9x without modification, so why not support it?
System builders are rare, an endangered species, I've come to think, with the emergence of the desktop-replacement laptop.
Are you serious? Your answer to computer problems is "Just buy another one?"
I haven't found a compelling reason to re-install XP in five years.
LOL. My parent's machine has had XP reinstalled twice in the last 6 months. The really funny thing, though? The XP on their HP's restore partition doesn't pass WGA. Deny it all you want, I've seen it.
I spent an instructive half-hour watching a nine-year old boy introduce his great-grandmother to Windows.
Are you sure they wouldn't have been equally interested in Linux or Mac?
I don't even know what it looks like in IE. I've heard it works okay, but it looks great in Opera, Konqueror, links, lynx and w3m. And it validates as XHTML 1.1 strict. And the mime type is properly set as xhtml.
It's my personal page, so I don't have to code to buggy browsers. If you don't like it, don't waste my bandwidth.
You do favours for your friends and work for your customers. Since you consider your friends to be customers I seriously doubt your relationships are based on any kind of solid foundation. Get some social skills, get a life and if you have no time to do your friends favours you'll be able to tell them that nicely instead of acting like a jackass and refusing to give them even the most basic of pointers.
Did you miss the part where I said "I suggest they use Debian"? I'd help them with that. If they want to stick with Windows, they're on their own.
Oh, and another thing: There's nothing wrong with my social skills. I'm not here to get lectured on my "social skills" from some anonymous coward asshat with a condescending attitude. Try to stay on topic, maybe?
Selfish much? Like I said, "...you lack the social skills..."
When it comes to this: very. Life's too short to spend it doing other people's work for free.
And it's not a lack of social skills. I just don't hang out with people who want me to be their bitch. I don't hang out with them to get free stuff from them, so why should I be expected to provide free services to them? That's not what friendship is about.
I might feel differently if they wanted coding done (my actual job, which I enjoy), or if cleaning shit out of Windows machines was fun or rewarding, but they don't, and it's not.
The on-line versions are going to have to compete in the 24x7 world, and actually improve their standards of reporting if they want to compete with the blogosphere.
Maybe I'm only one, but I simply don't trust blogs as news sources. Even at their best, their "news" is rehashed from a real news source.
You sound like you lack the social skills necessary to tell people that it consumes too much of your time to fix all your friends computers in such as fashion as to retain them as your friends.
Real friends don't expect you to do work for them. If that offends them, good riddance.
You should be able to teach similar sorts of things to your friends, strengthen your friendship and give yourself more time to do fun things.
Yes, but it's not my responsibility, nor is it a way I want to spend my free time. There are much more fun ways to strengthen friendships that don't involve one person doing work for free.
As far as I'm concerned, my help stops after I tell them to run Debian.
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Next year we will see it as a tag on part of a bill called something like "Keep soldier safe bill" and in trying to save our soldiers or keep porn from the kiddies, they'll find a way to control the tubes of the intarwebs...
Yep, just like they used the SAFE Port Act to block online gambling. I'll never understand why that's legal.
FYI, but your numbers are a bit off. Comcast, for example, is "soft-capped" (e.g. they send you a nasty letter) at ~100GB/mo (varies by region), which, at their current rate of $42/mo, works out to $0.00000042 (0.000042 cents) per KB (SI units).
This is slightly off-topic, but Comcast just bought out my ISP, so I'm curious. What does the "nasty letter" say? What do they do if I don't stop? Does the 100 GB include uploading?
If you find that far fetched you probably don't even notice you are doing it for a few seconds at a time dozens of times a day
I don't use Windows.
But assuming the pauses are as bad as you say, are those seconds a day worth spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to upgrade everybody's machine and buy copies of Vista? Most people don't work anywhere near the full time they're supposed to anyway, and it has nothing to do with their OS being slow.
Actually there probably will be. My coworkers on XP spend surprising amounts of time staring at the screen waiting for the machine to allow user input again - inproving this WILL improve productivity by a few minutes a day. The ones that do not suffer this have dual processor systems.
That sounds pretty far fetched to me. I don't know what you do, but most people don't spend that much time waiting on the OS. And if Vista has made a reputation for itself so far, it hasn't been for running faster on existing hardware.
Are arguing against a competeing product which you obviously have not tried
Went off-topic in a feeble attempt to change my web browser preference
But no, you're right. You're not a fan boy.
But when it comes to adblock, Firefox wins and it makes a big difference in how I browse the web.
I'd love to hear it why Firefox is better for you. Because I haven't seen any advertisements in months. No text ads, no images, no pop-ups, no flash, no stupid javascript ads. Zero. But you're trying to tell me that Firefox does better than that? Explain away.
Also if you want speed and features you can try Orca.
I could come up with quite a long list of reasons why I won't be trying Orca. But maybe just for you, I'll give it a try when they support my operating system.
LOL. You haven't tried it, have you? I'm going to guess "No", because you seem to be really clueless.
But just to be clear, you're implying that Firefox's AdBlocker blocks all ads automatically? As in: I do nothing, and it blocks all the ads. Right? But that's simply not the way it works. When I tried Firefox, I had to manually click on and select the stuff I wanted blocked. Here's a clue, fucktard: Opera works the same way.
You're obviously a Firefox fanboy, so I'm not too surprised you couldn't figure it out, but you could have at least gave it a fair try before spouting your bullshit.
Right click almost anywhere inside of any webpage, and click "Block Content...". I really don't know how they could make it more obvious. Maybe they should have a big red flashing button that speaks slowly and says "Click here to block advertisements," extra special for the not so bright Firefox fanboys.
That's the problem with Opera-you need to get special Opera certification training in order for it to do anything.
This from the person advocating the browser that needs half a dozen extensions installed and configured just to get the base functionality of the other web browser? Besides, Opera isn't really targetted to the "I can't be bothered to learn" audience.
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Your point?
He is an idiot. A PC will probably need an OS eventually, but it most definitely does NOT need to be included for the computer to operate. Anyone who's ever built their own machine can tell you that.
No.
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lynx -head -mime_header http://slashdot.org/ | sed -n '6s/^X-//p'
Cached page for people who don't want to help the idiot get hits.
Exactly. Which is why I had the second paragraph. My point was, you shouldn't go out of your way to exclude platforms, but at the same time you shouldn't put in a ton of extra work for obscure platforms unless that's your goal.
Until there's a good technical reason not too? It's not your responsibility to give people incentives to upgrade. In a lot of cases it makes more sense to continue using an already working system than to upgrade for upgrading's sake. And if viruses were a concern, they wouldn't be using any version Windows.
As another poster said, there's a good technical reason for Firefox no longer supporting older Windows. But when there's not, with a little care while programming, software for Win XP will usually run on Windows 9x without modification, so why not support it?
The fact that they can't see what the gun is aimed at comes to mind.
Are you serious? Your answer to computer problems is "Just buy another one?"
LOL. My parent's machine has had XP reinstalled twice in the last 6 months. The really funny thing, though? The XP on their HP's restore partition doesn't pass WGA. Deny it all you want, I've seen it.
Are you sure they wouldn't have been equally interested in Linux or Mac?
Oh, and making websites isn't "coding".
I don't even know what it looks like in IE. I've heard it works okay, but it looks great in Opera, Konqueror, links, lynx and w3m. And it validates as XHTML 1.1 strict. And the mime type is properly set as xhtml.
It's my personal page, so I don't have to code to buggy browsers. If you don't like it, don't waste my bandwidth.
Firefox error.
Did you miss the part where I said "I suggest they use Debian"? I'd help them with that. If they want to stick with Windows, they're on their own.
Oh, and another thing: There's nothing wrong with my social skills. I'm not here to get lectured on my "social skills" from some anonymous coward asshat with a condescending attitude. Try to stay on topic, maybe?
When it comes to this: very. Life's too short to spend it doing other people's work for free.
And it's not a lack of social skills. I just don't hang out with people who want me to be their bitch. I don't hang out with them to get free stuff from them, so why should I be expected to provide free services to them? That's not what friendship is about.
I might feel differently if they wanted coding done (my actual job, which I enjoy), or if cleaning shit out of Windows machines was fun or rewarding, but they don't, and it's not.
Maybe I'm only one, but I simply don't trust blogs as news sources. Even at their best, their "news" is rehashed from a real news source.
Real friends don't expect you to do work for them. If that offends them, good riddance.
Yes, but it's not my responsibility, nor is it a way I want to spend my free time. There are much more fun ways to strengthen friendships that don't involve one person doing work for free.
As far as I'm concerned, my help stops after I tell them to run Debian.
Yep, just like they used the SAFE Port Act to block online gambling. I'll never understand why that's legal.
This is slightly off-topic, but Comcast just bought out my ISP, so I'm curious. What does the "nasty letter" say? What do they do if I don't stop? Does the 100 GB include uploading?
I don't use Windows.
But assuming the pauses are as bad as you say, are those seconds a day worth spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to upgrade everybody's machine and buy copies of Vista? Most people don't work anywhere near the full time they're supposed to anyway, and it has nothing to do with their OS being slow.
That sounds pretty far fetched to me. I don't know what you do, but most people don't spend that much time waiting on the OS. And if Vista has made a reputation for itself so far, it hasn't been for running faster on existing hardware.
Microsoft has made it abundantly clear that they are not planning on Acid2 compliance, so IE isn't relevant.
On an unrelated note, this doesn't really do much for your "Not a fanboy" statement over here. Get a clue.
You:
- Have "firefox" in your name
- Have a link going to a page about Firefox
- Are arguing against a competeing product which you obviously have not tried
- Went off-topic in a feeble attempt to change my web browser preference
But no, you're right. You're not a fan boy.I'd love to hear it why Firefox is better for you. Because I haven't seen any advertisements in months. No text ads, no images, no pop-ups, no flash, no stupid javascript ads. Zero. But you're trying to tell me that Firefox does better than that? Explain away.
I could come up with quite a long list of reasons why I won't be trying Orca. But maybe just for you, I'll give it a try when they support my operating system.
LOL. You haven't tried it, have you? I'm going to guess "No", because you seem to be really clueless.
But just to be clear, you're implying that Firefox's AdBlocker blocks all ads automatically? As in: I do nothing, and it blocks all the ads. Right? But that's simply not the way it works. When I tried Firefox, I had to manually click on and select the stuff I wanted blocked. Here's a clue, fucktard: Opera works the same way.
You're obviously a Firefox fanboy, so I'm not too surprised you couldn't figure it out, but you could have at least gave it a fair try before spouting your bullshit.
I'm intrigued that you think there isn't one.
Right click almost anywhere inside of any webpage, and click "Block Content...". I really don't know how they could make it more obvious. Maybe they should have a big red flashing button that speaks slowly and says "Click here to block advertisements," extra special for the not so bright Firefox fanboys.
This from the person advocating the browser that needs half a dozen extensions installed and configured just to get the base functionality of the other web browser? Besides, Opera isn't really targetted to the "I can't be bothered to learn" audience.
So let me get this straight... For the time being the only safe Word files are new files that other people don't need to open?
But hey, you saved a ton of money on retraining costs.