Of course if you've got your dependencies screwed up in the slightest you'll have issues. Not that you shouldn't be fixing those anyway, but as someone who went thru a build-system rewrite on a large project, that can be a lot of man hours itself.
While something travelling that fast has little probability of interacting with anything
On the contrary, even though the particle was traveling that fast, it interacted with the thin upper atmosphere, right? Isn't that where the telescope was looking to see the flashes?
I don't use my iPod that often, but the battery has lasted fine since 2004-10. Even if I needed to replace twice already at ~$17 (seems to be the going rate for a 4th gen) I'd still be better off vs. buying AA batteries. Not to mention the environmental damage from using non-recharable batteries.
That seems to be the problem with most OSS. Look at the descriptions (DESCR) for pkgsrc packages, or the main page for a project on SourceForge. You get very very little information on what the hell the software _does_. Sure, I can find out what lines changed in each source file, but how about a simple, maybe 3 line explanation for what the software does and why I'd use it? </RANT>
The poster seems to indicate that the drive has failed and it's impossible to write to it via the normal scsi interface. At that point, the only way to render the data unrecoverable is the physically destroy the platters.
I like taking the drives apart for the magnets, then using heat on the platters...
Now, you know that's not true. Hell, unless the engineer managed to sneek it into the iPod (Graphing Calculator style), there'd be Product Management meetings, code reviews, QA, etc...
God knows I hate all the overhead of product development and I've snuck some enhancements into releases that PM never saw, but they still got QA'd and rolling a software update to the ~50 customers would have been a lot easier than the millions of iPod users.
I'd be just as happy with FW800 or even better eSATA. That way if there's an issue with the mac, you still have your data. Or at least what you copied to the external drive before it failed...
Unfortunately, that would require that someone go back in time and have Tim Berners Lee implement CSS in 'WorldWideWeb.app' on NeXTStep. In which case, we probably still wouldn't have the WWW...
just continue to make flying more and more of a hassle. Sooner or later, the only people flying will be the pilots and people wanting to blow up the planes...
People also downplay risks associated with activities they feel they are in control of. If I'm driving, I have a lot more control of my safety than I do if I'm a passenger on a bus or in a plane. I may not be any more safe than if someone else were driving, and I may have less control than I believe (someone runs a red light [though I had that happen and reacted well and managed to avoid injury]). Part of why I feel more comfortable driving is that I feel that regardless of the statistics, I'm less likely than the average driver to have an accident, so if I'm in the top 10% of driviers, I might be 10 times less likely to be in an accident than the 'average'.
Or, restore to a drive that is the same size or larger, and dd the _whole_drive_ including the partition table & boot blocks and all... one step restore (ok, 2 steps: boot linux, dd)
But that's the reason I like BSD's tools (coming up on Sequent unix, then NeXT).
I'm considering moving off NetBSD (since I've got a new x86 server to replace my old mips-based cobalt box) to Linux, but I _really_ don't want to deal with re-learing all the userland stuff. And I really like pkgsrc and building (or at least having the option) myself.
So, how hard would it be to use the BSD userland & pkgsrc on a linux kernel? Probably not worth the trouble, as being 'off in the weeds' you end up having to track down issues no one else has run into and fix them yourself...
That's funny, I don't consider a 5-digit ID low:-)
But then I don't think of myself as that 'early'. My friend turned me onto slashdot, and I think he was a 3-digit, or at least he started reading then. Not sure if he registered or not. He's a bit of a paranoid-geek...
Have two now, trashed a third. All have trouble printing at intervals. That is, it's often weeks before I want to print something in color again. Pretty much means a new cartridge or a cleaning expedition every time I want to print a page in color. Besides, the HP software is horrible.
Anyone know of a good, reasonably priced, networked color laser?
They aren't using SATA, they are using PATA. You can see the cables in this picture: http://capricorn-tech.com/images/mobo176.jpg They're barely-visable at the top. Certainly they are a good deal to a company buying a rack full, but for someone like me who's doing it as a hobby, the $3k isn't worth it given I'm only going to have one (ok, maybe 2:-) and will be setting up the system to my liking anyway... Still, I wonder if the Sun box that has the 48 drives (vertically) in 3U or 4U that was on slashdot not long ago might be denser...
Interesting. I just ordered the parts for my new server: $704.89 including tax & shipping. 1.5 GHz C7 w/1000-base-t Mini-ITX 2 IDE & 2 SATA ports (would have liked 4, but whatever, I can get a PCI card) 4-drive 1U 15" deep case [could be dual-racked I suppose] 1GB RAM DVD writer [dual layer]
The drives going in it are coming from my old server and others I've got lying around, which is why I wanted PATA & SATA.
Even buying a SATA PCI adapter & 4 750GB drives I think I'd come out far cheaper. And I think these guys use master and slave on the mini-itx's IDE ports, at least the picture doesn't show the PCI slot filled.
Well, there's probably screens to see and scientists who could talk about how being able to do the calcualtions are very important to their work. Good scientists are perhaps not as expressive as artists but I think if they are passionate about their work they can still impress that upon some young people.
Now that's crazy talk. Everyone knows that the most important knowledge is passed down from generation to generation in a verbal tradition or a book that's (mis)copied by scribes. There's no need for 'fact checking'. Jeeze, kids these days...
Slashdot Mirror
Of course if you've got your dependencies screwed up in the slightest you'll have issues. Not that you shouldn't be fixing those anyway, but as someone who went thru a build-system rewrite on a large project, that can be a lot of man hours itself.
While something travelling that fast has little probability of interacting with anything
On the contrary, even though the particle was traveling that fast, it interacted with the thin upper atmosphere, right? Isn't that where the telescope was looking to see the flashes?
I don't use my iPod that often, but the battery has lasted fine since 2004-10. Even if I needed to replace twice already at ~$17 (seems to be the going rate for a 4th gen) I'd still be better off vs. buying AA batteries. Not to mention the environmental damage from using non-recharable batteries.
That seems to be the problem with most OSS. Look at the descriptions (DESCR) for pkgsrc packages, or the main page for a project on SourceForge. You get very very little information on what the hell the software _does_. Sure, I can find out what lines changed in each source file, but how about a simple, maybe 3 line explanation for what the software does and why I'd use it?
</RANT>
The poster seems to indicate that the drive has failed and it's impossible to write to it via the normal scsi interface. At that point, the only way to render the data unrecoverable is the physically destroy the platters.
I like taking the drives apart for the magnets, then using heat on the platters...
Now, you know that's not true. Hell, unless the engineer managed to sneek it into the iPod (Graphing Calculator style), there'd be Product Management meetings, code reviews, QA, etc...
God knows I hate all the overhead of product development and I've snuck some enhancements into releases that PM never saw, but they still got QA'd and rolling a software update to the ~50 customers would have been a lot easier than the millions of iPod users.
I'd be just as happy with FW800 or even better eSATA. That way if there's an issue with the mac, you still have your data. Or at least what you copied to the external drive before it failed...
Unfortunately, that would require that someone go back in time and have Tim Berners Lee implement CSS in 'WorldWideWeb.app' on NeXTStep. In which case, we probably still wouldn't have the WWW...
just continue to make flying more and more of a hassle. Sooner or later, the only people flying will be the pilots and people wanting to blow up the planes...
People also downplay risks associated with activities they feel they are in control of. If I'm driving, I have a lot more control of my safety than I do if I'm a passenger on a bus or in a plane. I may not be any more safe than if someone else were driving, and I may have less control than I believe (someone runs a red light [though I had that happen and reacted well and managed to avoid injury]).
Part of why I feel more comfortable driving is that I feel that regardless of the statistics, I'm less likely than the average driver to have an accident, so if I'm in the top 10% of driviers, I might be 10 times less likely to be in an accident than the 'average'.
Cool maybe, but also bad. I can gain control over content [at least to prevent access] I never originally published if I now control the domain.
That's uncool.
Or, restore to a drive that is the same size or larger, and dd the _whole_drive_ including the partition table & boot blocks and all...
one step restore (ok, 2 steps: boot linux, dd)
^developers^humans
WAJM
We're All Just Monkeys
Answer: for people who are used to them.
But that's the reason I like BSD's tools (coming up on Sequent unix, then NeXT).
I'm considering moving off NetBSD (since I've got a new x86 server to replace my old mips-based cobalt box) to Linux, but I _really_ don't want to deal with re-learing all the userland stuff. And I really like pkgsrc and building (or at least having the option) myself.
So, how hard would it be to use the BSD userland & pkgsrc on a linux kernel? Probably not worth the trouble, as being 'off in the weeds' you end up having to track down issues no one else has run into and fix them yourself...
That's funny, I don't consider a 5-digit ID low :-)
But then I don't think of myself as that 'early'. My friend turned me onto slashdot, and I think he was a 3-digit, or at least he started reading then. Not sure if he registered or not. He's a bit of a paranoid-geek...
Have two now, trashed a third. All have trouble printing at intervals. That is, it's often weeks before I want to print something in color again. Pretty much means a new cartridge or a cleaning expedition every time I want to print a page in color.
Besides, the HP software is horrible.
Anyone know of a good, reasonably priced, networked color laser?
They aren't using SATA, they are using PATA. You can see the cables in this picture: :-) and will be setting up the system to my liking anyway...
http://capricorn-tech.com/images/mobo176.jpg
They're barely-visable at the top.
Certainly they are a good deal to a company buying a rack full, but for someone like me who's doing it as a hobby, the $3k isn't worth it given I'm only going to have one (ok, maybe 2
Still, I wonder if the Sun box that has the 48 drives (vertically) in 3U or 4U that was on slashdot not long ago might be denser...
Robert
There's a 4-SATA mini-itx board, but it's from commell (I think), not VIA, and it's a P4 board.
Interesting. I just ordered the parts for my new server:
$704.89 including tax & shipping.
1.5 GHz C7 w/1000-base-t Mini-ITX 2 IDE & 2 SATA ports (would have liked 4, but whatever, I can get a PCI card)
4-drive 1U 15" deep case [could be dual-racked I suppose]
1GB RAM
DVD writer [dual layer]
The drives going in it are coming from my old server and others I've got lying around, which is why I wanted PATA & SATA.
Even buying a SATA PCI adapter & 4 750GB drives I think I'd come out far cheaper.
And I think these guys use master and slave on the mini-itx's IDE ports, at least the picture doesn't show the PCI slot filled.
Well, there's probably screens to see and scientists who could talk about how being able to do the calcualtions are very important to their work. Good scientists are perhaps not as expressive as artists but I think if they are passionate about their work they can still impress that upon some young people.
Yeah yeah, like evolution, thermodynamics is _just_ a theory.
Gravity though, that's a _law_....
Years ago, I harnessed the energy from the monkeys flying out of my ass, and I haven't paid an electric bill since...
Now that's crazy talk. Everyone knows that the most important knowledge is passed down from generation to generation in a verbal tradition or a book that's (mis)copied by scribes. There's no need for 'fact checking'. Jeeze, kids these days...
Jeez the Mods are getting bad. Ever heard of sarcasm? Irony? Stephen Colbert?
Wow.
Just f**king wow.
Wow, if I hadn't already replied, I'd mod you 'flamebait'.
And 'funny'
And 'insightful'
sigh...