Legal shenanigans aside, obviously we are the rightful owners of the wealth generated by tax revenue.
True but that does not mean that just because subsidies may have been given to create the infrastructure that we have any right to determine how it's controlled. The same argument could be used for public highways "because I paid my taxes that means that this company who maintains and administers this road can't charge me a toll" this isn't how the real world works. The government has nothing to do with the day to day running of the various companies that administer the infrastructure of the internet and should stay out of onerous, overbearing regulation of said infrastructure.
As for Berners-Lee and his assertion of web access being a human right he must have gone nuts. The internet, like any other service is a privilege not a human right. Human rights are enumerated (in the United States) by the US Constitution and The Bill of Rights and nowhere in said documents is this "right" stated nor anything comparable to it that could be applied to a technology unforeseeable by the Founders. Human rights that are protected by the laws of the land should be limited to keep the size of government and intrusion of said institution into the private lives of the citizenry. "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness" not the guarantee.
Which, IMHO, is one of the root causes of your problems.
I couldn't disagree more. As an immigrant to the USA from Europe it is these freedoms and the positive and negative responsibilities and consequences associated with these freedoms that attracted me. The fact that in my country of origin (the United Kingdom) I could be prosecuted for saying something the government du jour considers hate speech or libelous even though it is stated as an opinion (not the case with these kids, I know) is a key reason why the US is more advanced in cause of individual liberty than the vast majority of the rest of the world. Yes, freedom can be scary but give it a try, I am certain you'll like it!
Replace Facebook with washroom stall and think about what you just said. Do you really take what you read on the washroom stall as the truth? If the kids had went to the police or filed some kind of official statement that was false, then their expulsion would be understandable.
Did they write it in a washroom stall? No.
Stop trying to minimize what they did. Expelling the three of them would have been the minimum I would expect.
That's an over reaction, they should be punished but destroying their lives (an expulsion on their record could severely hamper their future) is not a fitting punishment for them _almost_ destroying this teachers life. The washroom stall analogy is not applicable because you do not have to log in to a washroom using private information you are compelled to use (a password) to view the offending message and while one can be accused of writing something like "Mr Whoever is a bi-polar pedophile rapist" there is no name likely to be associated so proof is hard to come by. Could someone have logged in to this girl's account and achieved the same goal? absolutely but this still does not forgive the teacher abusing their position as a care giver (in loco parentis goes both ways) by forcing the student to log in to her account. Again, what they did was wrong and they should certainly be punished but the issue of their privacy still is a moral factor even though it may not be a legal one.
You may be (and from the above posts, probably are) legally correct but I have an enormous moral issue with forcing someone to log in to their Facebook account against their will. There could be all sorts of private or personal information exposed and it is extremely abusive for someone in a position of power over children to do this. Yes they are acting in loco parentis but they are not the child's parent and have no right, IMHO, to have access to the ins and outs of the personal lives of students. What these kids did was dumb, bratty and by no means justifiable and I agree that they should be punished for their actions but the means by which the school went about collecting the evidence should not stand up in court. As someone who has worked in digital forensics I can say for certain that if we or the police collected evidence in such a way it would be thrown out immediately and rightfully so.
Unrelated to the topic but I had a similar moment with eBay yesterday. While listing my Schecter Blackhawk for sale I thought I'd include the usual blurb about no Western Union and all that stuff. Turns out the page you submit the auction through parses looking for such keywords and won't allow you to start tour auction until you remove all references to such verboten services and lacks the logic to differentiate between saying "I won't accept this" and "I will scam you with this". So my auction now says I won't take payment from "Eastern Guild" or similar services!
That's a completely fair point if you have the fiscal means to make the switch. It means buying new hardware rather than downloading and installing new software and that's a cost many people either can't or won't bear. I agree that the Apple experience is a delightful one but I like my thinkpad and I don't especially like Windows so my options are, pretty much, a flavor of Linux or BSD.
It's also a good idea to take your hard drives out of the machine once in a while and shake them with the port ends facing down to ensure that any lazy data that has been stuck at the bottom of the drive gets cleaned out.
I honestly think that people (myself included), lack the ability to be objective when assessing the bias of news sources./. is, for the most part, a pretty center-left place so it is unsurprising that the comments above are outraged that Apple would partner with a source the perceive as biased toward a side they do not agree with. As someone who is more conservative/libertarian leaning I see left wing bias in MSNBC's coverage all the time but this could easily be a product of my political persuasion. I think that if all of you spitting vitriol above about evil liars and biased coverage on Fox would take the time to assess your opinion taking into account your political leanings you may come to the same conclusion.
To summarize, I am not saying Fox is not biased but you can't conclude that they are the only one with a bias. It's just a bias in a direction diametrically opposed to yours.
I flashed on that thought but then looking at the numbers on Distrowatch the top 2 are Ubuntu and Mint (a, IMHO, crappy Ubuntu derivative) then Fedora. Unless they want to bump Fedora below OpenSUSE what would be the point?
Your comparison is inaccurate. The screws aren't broken, that is not what they have been commissioned to replace, they are replacing an internal part. It isn't a matter of expecting the broken parts to be returned, that's not what the warranty is for. If I get my tires changed as part of an included service when I buy a new car I don't expect them to replace all of my lug nuts with locking nuts to a standard not consistent with the product I own and keep the standard lug nuts for themselves.
I think the major issue here is that Apple and many other companies have forgotten or are choosing to ignore the concept of private property ownership. If I want to open up my property and tinker with the insides whether I'm competent or not I have the right as the owner of that property.
Not every time. I'm not interesting in getting into an edit war with someone trying to push an agenda.
Perhaps it's **you** who have an agenda... Who knows...
Truth is _everyone_ has an agenda in some way or another. The notion of absolute neutrality is a fallacy and anyone who claims to be 100% neutral is fooling themselves. Striving for neutrality is another issue and with such a large user base contributing there is always likely to be some bias on issues people really care about (which is almost everything) and there's very little you can do about it other than get your information from many sources in an attempt to triangulate the truth.
It would be an absolute pain in the ass but as it uses the SATA standard there should be a way of connecting up the pins and getting the data off somehow. I actually just sent an email, however, around the company I work for entitled "Imaging these will be a bitch" (digital forensics company).
Can you imagine how huge it would be though? I'm currently working a digital forensics case in which a computer and a couple of USB flash drives have been seized and I've already got >6GB of images to go through with extraction only partially done, 100 million FB profiles with at least one image (often many more) would be fracking enormous.
Amazing, isn't it, that in the years since Abe's Oddysee came out the phrase "Follow Me" has become a cultural phenomenon thanks to Twitter. Or am I making to much of a tenuous connection over two words?
Some kind of simple write blocking solution is what's needed. Tableau are the kings of write blocking so I'm sure the company constructing these kiosks could do a deal with them for some kind of solution.
So true, I'll always remember when I changed the time on a SCO box at an old job and was told by an old hack there not to issue a simple "date MMDDhhmm" command but to use the crappy curses-based admin console to do it. It said I needed to "relink" the kernel (after changing the time for the love of Pete) then crapped out a kernel panic and disconnected me from the already dodgy modem. I think it took the field engineer about a day to reinstall all because it didn't adjust properly for daylight savings then kernel panicked when the time was changed. Ah, those were the day eh Darl? Darl...You there?
I've always loved this example of that. It's an American car importer's website that must have been designed in Front Page or some other awful package. It works in IE but not in FF. In fact it recommends using IE5!
It's probably true that it will be a collectors item but it'll be grouped among the likes Betamax video player, the Sinclair C5, HD-DVD and other failed innovations in that people will likely remember it but not give a hoot about shelling out any serious cash to have it (the C5 may be an exception in that list). In 100 years time, if there still is a society, it may be worth something.
Well, I'd say that it's different but similar; not better or worse. Gentoo is great when you want to spend hours building and configuring the ultimate speed machine you don't have to update too often. Slackware is great if you want to get a simple, reliable and (not quite as) fast system up and running in about an hour (sometimes less). I switched from Gentoo to Debian then hastily to Slack back in about '00 and have been using Slack since. Other distros just feel bloated now; I recently tested out Ubuntu 10.4 and although it is very polished and great for non technical users I still just can't get past the fact that it seems overweight to me and I don't like the fact that I have to set the root password after install. The whole "protect the user from themselves" philosophy just doesn't wash with me.
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Legal shenanigans aside, obviously we are the rightful owners of the wealth generated by tax revenue.
True but that does not mean that just because subsidies may have been given to create the infrastructure that we have any right to determine how it's controlled. The same argument could be used for public highways "because I paid my taxes that means that this company who maintains and administers this road can't charge me a toll" this isn't how the real world works. The government has nothing to do with the day to day running of the various companies that administer the infrastructure of the internet and should stay out of onerous, overbearing regulation of said infrastructure.
As for Berners-Lee and his assertion of web access being a human right he must have gone nuts. The internet, like any other service is a privilege not a human right. Human rights are enumerated (in the United States) by the US Constitution and The Bill of Rights and nowhere in said documents is this "right" stated nor anything comparable to it that could be applied to a technology unforeseeable by the Founders. Human rights that are protected by the laws of the land should be limited to keep the size of government and intrusion of said institution into the private lives of the citizenry. "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness" not the guarantee.
Which, IMHO, is one of the root causes of your problems.
I couldn't disagree more. As an immigrant to the USA from Europe it is these freedoms and the positive and negative responsibilities and consequences associated with these freedoms that attracted me. The fact that in my country of origin (the United Kingdom) I could be prosecuted for saying something the government du jour considers hate speech or libelous even though it is stated as an opinion (not the case with these kids, I know) is a key reason why the US is more advanced in cause of individual liberty than the vast majority of the rest of the world. Yes, freedom can be scary but give it a try, I am certain you'll like it!
Replace Facebook with washroom stall and think about what you just said. Do you really take what you read on the washroom stall as the truth? If the kids had went to the police or filed some kind of official statement that was false, then their expulsion would be understandable.
Did they write it in a washroom stall? No.
Stop trying to minimize what they did. Expelling the three of them would have been the minimum I would expect.
That's an over reaction, they should be punished but destroying their lives (an expulsion on their record could severely hamper their future) is not a fitting punishment for them _almost_ destroying this teachers life. The washroom stall analogy is not applicable because you do not have to log in to a washroom using private information you are compelled to use (a password) to view the offending message and while one can be accused of writing something like "Mr Whoever is a bi-polar pedophile rapist" there is no name likely to be associated so proof is hard to come by. Could someone have logged in to this girl's account and achieved the same goal? absolutely but this still does not forgive the teacher abusing their position as a care giver (in loco parentis goes both ways) by forcing the student to log in to her account. Again, what they did was wrong and they should certainly be punished but the issue of their privacy still is a moral factor even though it may not be a legal one.
You may be (and from the above posts, probably are) legally correct but I have an enormous moral issue with forcing someone to log in to their Facebook account against their will. There could be all sorts of private or personal information exposed and it is extremely abusive for someone in a position of power over children to do this. Yes they are acting in loco parentis but they are not the child's parent and have no right, IMHO, to have access to the ins and outs of the personal lives of students. What these kids did was dumb, bratty and by no means justifiable and I agree that they should be punished for their actions but the means by which the school went about collecting the evidence should not stand up in court. As someone who has worked in digital forensics I can say for certain that if we or the police collected evidence in such a way it would be thrown out immediately and rightfully so.
Unrelated to the topic but I had a similar moment with eBay yesterday. While listing my Schecter Blackhawk for sale I thought I'd include the usual blurb about no Western Union and all that stuff. Turns out the page you submit the auction through parses looking for such keywords and won't allow you to start tour auction until you remove all references to such verboten services and lacks the logic to differentiate between saying "I won't accept this" and "I will scam you with this". So my auction now says I won't take payment from "Eastern Guild" or similar services!
That's a completely fair point if you have the fiscal means to make the switch. It means buying new hardware rather than downloading and installing new software and that's a cost many people either can't or won't bear. I agree that the Apple experience is a delightful one but I like my thinkpad and I don't especially like Windows so my options are, pretty much, a flavor of Linux or BSD.
It's also a good idea to take your hard drives out of the machine once in a while and shake them with the port ends facing down to ensure that any lazy data that has been stuck at the bottom of the drive gets cleaned out.
I honestly think that people (myself included), lack the ability to be objective when assessing the bias of news sources. /. is, for the most part, a pretty center-left place so it is unsurprising that the comments above are outraged that Apple would partner with a source the perceive as biased toward a side they do not agree with. As someone who is more conservative/libertarian leaning I see left wing bias in MSNBC's coverage all the time but this could easily be a product of my political persuasion. I think that if all of you spitting vitriol above about evil liars and biased coverage on Fox would take the time to assess your opinion taking into account your political leanings you may come to the same conclusion.
To summarize, I am not saying Fox is not biased but you can't conclude that they are the only one with a bias. It's just a bias in a direction diametrically opposed to yours.
I flashed on that thought but then looking at the numbers on Distrowatch the top 2 are Ubuntu and Mint (a, IMHO, crappy Ubuntu derivative) then Fedora. Unless they want to bump Fedora below OpenSUSE what would be the point?
Your comparison is inaccurate. The screws aren't broken, that is not what they have been commissioned to replace, they are replacing an internal part. It isn't a matter of expecting the broken parts to be returned, that's not what the warranty is for. If I get my tires changed as part of an included service when I buy a new car I don't expect them to replace all of my lug nuts with locking nuts to a standard not consistent with the product I own and keep the standard lug nuts for themselves. I think the major issue here is that Apple and many other companies have forgotten or are choosing to ignore the concept of private property ownership. If I want to open up my property and tinker with the insides whether I'm competent or not I have the right as the owner of that property.
Not every time. I'm not interesting in getting into an edit war with someone trying to push an agenda.
Perhaps it's **you** who have an agenda... Who knows...
Truth is _everyone_ has an agenda in some way or another. The notion of absolute neutrality is a fallacy and anyone who claims to be 100% neutral is fooling themselves. Striving for neutrality is another issue and with such a large user base contributing there is always likely to be some bias on issues people really care about (which is almost everything) and there's very little you can do about it other than get your information from many sources in an attempt to triangulate the truth.
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It would be an absolute pain in the ass but as it uses the SATA standard there should be a way of connecting up the pins and getting the data off somehow. I actually just sent an email, however, around the company I work for entitled "Imaging these will be a bitch" (digital forensics company).
And I thought it was expensive in the UK. ...
$0 for the basic tv package
WRONG, unless you have no TV or are dodging your TV License. There is no choice in this either remember. If you have a TV you have to pay this tax.
Can you imagine how huge it would be though? I'm currently working a digital forensics case in which a computer and a couple of USB flash drives have been seized and I've already got >6GB of images to go through with extraction only partially done, 100 million FB profiles with at least one image (often many more) would be fracking enormous.
Nice reference sir!
Amazing, isn't it, that in the years since Abe's Oddysee came out the phrase "Follow Me" has become a cultural phenomenon thanks to Twitter. Or am I making to much of a tenuous connection over two words?
Some kind of simple write blocking solution is what's needed. Tableau are the kings of write blocking so I'm sure the company constructing these kiosks could do a deal with them for some kind of solution.
I fully agree, mod parent up.
One copy of SCO UnixWare is bad enough
So true, I'll always remember when I changed the time on a SCO box at an old job and was told by an old hack there not to issue a simple "date MMDDhhmm" command but to use the crappy curses-based admin console to do it. It said I needed to "relink" the kernel (after changing the time for the love of Pete) then crapped out a kernel panic and disconnected me from the already dodgy modem. I think it took the field engineer about a day to reinstall all because it didn't adjust properly for daylight savings then kernel panicked when the time was changed. Ah, those were the day eh Darl? Darl...You there?
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I've always loved this example of that. It's an American car importer's website that must have been designed in Front Page or some other awful package. It works in IE but not in FF. In fact it recommends using IE5!
It's probably true that it will be a collectors item but it'll be grouped among the likes Betamax video player, the Sinclair C5, HD-DVD and other failed innovations in that people will likely remember it but not give a hoot about shelling out any serious cash to have it (the C5 may be an exception in that list). In 100 years time, if there still is a society, it may be worth something.
I agree and, of course, the really good news is that Uwe f*cking Boll isn't involved.
Better than Gentoo?
Well, I'd say that it's different but similar; not better or worse. Gentoo is great when you want to spend hours building and configuring the ultimate speed machine you don't have to update too often. Slackware is great if you want to get a simple, reliable and (not quite as) fast system up and running in about an hour (sometimes less). I switched from Gentoo to Debian then hastily to Slack back in about '00 and have been using Slack since. Other distros just feel bloated now; I recently tested out Ubuntu 10.4 and although it is very polished and great for non technical users I still just can't get past the fact that it seems overweight to me and I don't like the fact that I have to set the root password after install. The whole "protect the user from themselves" philosophy just doesn't wash with me.