Ditto on the OS?Browser combo here. According to page 6 of the Mozilla support ticket for this says the "cool previews" add-on is causing the only sound issue.
That would be hilarious but I doubt they would actually watch anything. They'll probably hash every file on your machine and compare it to a hash database of known files. We do a similar thing in the computer forensics field but with hashes of known CP. This whole thing just seems overarching and a waste of time to me. I would applaud anyone who fills their drive with porn before going to Oz just to waste their time.
So, finally, what I implied was that, while I despised tv fortune tellers (or other businesses based on taking money fro the uninformed), I'd not stop them from continuing with their job. I'd rather use them as pointers to where is the education/information system failing.
That seems completely reasonable to me, the ambiguity of discussion forums clearly caused some misunderstanding here!
I don't judge the product. I despise those who work on finding ways of monetizing the product, even at the expesnse of offering an inferior product.
Fair enough, I don't like Microsoft's products but I will not begrudge them their profit, that's the free market. Consumers will not always make the smartest choices but it is up to them to make that choice be it wise in your eyes or not. Anyway, what's wrong with making money?
What leads to a fool proof society is the idea of solving dangers by forbidding them, instead of using them as indicators of where the education, or public information, systems are failing.
Wow, way to show your despotic cards. Let's examine that statement, you think that "forbidding dangers" is a solution that leads to a "fool proof society"? Who, pray tell, is the arbiter of these "dangers" and who enforces the actual "forbidding". I'm not a smoker but I don't believe I, or anyone else, has the right to tell smokers that they can't smoke. Smoking, as we all know, is extremely hazardous to their health and by applying your logic to my example we arrive at the conclusion that it should be "forbidden". Do we empower the police to do this or some form of other force to curb this "forbidden" behavior? I'm just curious how long it takes you to reach the inevitable conclusion that your type of anti-liberty thinking leads to.
I understand your perspective but, respectfully, consider it a little naive. I think that as sopssa said, if people are enjoying the product what's so harmful about it? I would agree if they were destroying their lives or harming others but this really is no different than people playing MMORPG's. The vast majority of MMORPG players do so responsibly and in moderation. You can't condemn the product because of the few who take it to an extreme. It's that sort of logic that leads to a society of rounded corners and no risk, a world that simply can't exist.
The game itself is free to play but it's designed to encourage players to draw friends into it and to spend real money on it.
So it's actually a very sophisticated and subversive MLM (Multi Level Marketing) program that rewards participants with a video game. Having never played it I didn't realize this but whomever the genius is who came up with that deserves every cent they make!
Chrome runs the plugin in its own process, so the probability of Flash locking up the browser is zero to begin with.
That's like saying the Titanic can't sink because the sealing bulkheads are part of the ship itself. All that happens is that the water overflows the compartments and the whole ship sinks. Such is the case with this, you said yourself that you have a taskbar icon to kill an unresponsive flash plugin process. Surely if the plugin is coded into the browser when that part of the program fails the entire browser will lock up and you'll have to kill chrome rather than just libflashplugin. I can't see this being a good thing.
Absolutely. Even the "nice" christians somehow find it in their heart to hate homosexuals, and their public stance against their civil rights is no less ugly because it's done with a smug smile.
If you're a religious believer, you've already established yourself as partially insane
It's interesting to me how you manage to both decry tolerance and display an utter lack of it so concisely in one post. Bravo biggot.
By a French astronomer (Pierre Janssen) during a total eclipse. I'm guessing that since eclipses aren't exactly apparent when down there he wasn't exactly scraping around on the surface of the sun when he discovered. it. So it was discovered on Earth by observing the sun.
While I don't entirely disagree with your point (that came out more snarky thank I'd hoped, sorry!) I have to say that the Coke/Pepsi analogy is not really a fair comparison as business critical applications (aside from geeks) don't run on sugary drinks. It's all a fairly academic argument as I can't think of a situation that I know of (feel free to enlighten me anyone) where MS has specifically forbidden a company (read ISV) from running their applications on their OS. In fact it seems the opposite is true otherwise projects like MONO would have been crushed by Redmond's army of lawyers long ago. Apple are a very marginal company as far as the international installed desktop base goes so while they are making money they aren't anywhere near the level of MS (the RC cola to your Coke perhaps?).
That is pretty nerdy but what you really want to do is replace that four banger up front with a V8 in the bed and your trunk in the front, that would be awesome. To go back on topic, I also have a Saab (9-5 Aero 2.3) and I think the nerdiest feature on the current/recent generation is the utterly pointless "Night Panel" button which switches all the interior lights off with the exception of the speedometer up to 90MPH, I've used it maybe once where I've thought it was useful (late night trip out to the Salt Flats). Plus any executive sedan with a boost meter is good in my estimation!
Well in that case it's working like a Diesel-Electric locomotive so it would be running at fairly constant revs when cruising and increased revs when pulling off or accelerating hard. It is hard to say what kind of power requirements would be needed without the spec of the engine and electric motors but I can't see it being any less fuel efficient than a standard car but I could be wrong. To be honest if you've gotten this far through my stream of consciousness ramblings then I applaud you. I'm gonna go get a breath of fresh air I think.
All developers are blue collar. Programming is the IT equivalent of brick laying, it's a trade, not a profession.
Professions have legal status; Doctors, lawyers, accountants have to be certified and approved.
Well not really. How many brick layers do you know that not only lay the bricks but make them, design the building, or part of the building that they are laying the bricks for and know how to do the same job with dry stone, breeze blocks, molded concrete and sheet metal? Your oversimplification illustrates your ignorance of what a developer does or you're just trolling and have been thoroughly fed.
I would actually advocate having a go at a few using VMWare or the likes. I worked my way through many major and a few minor distros that caught my fancy on Distro Watch back when I was working nights doing tech support at a university using an old PIII-500. Ah those were the days *gets a little misty-eyed*. I can, however, honestly say that installing Gentoo was one of the most informative (and yes, frustrating) experiences of my early Linux days. If you want to learn how a system is structured I would advise you do it. But back to your question (a little). The major distros all offer pretty much the same experience just implemented differently. Debian-based distro's (Ubuntu, MEPIS etc) offer a huge amount of installable packages that are easily acquired by using one of several package managers (Synaptic being the main one). Red Hat (or RPM) based distros are similar to Debian based distros in that there is a large amount of software available and it's often easy to find, Mandriva has urpmi which is a neat little package manager but may require additional setup after install (mea culpa: I haven't used Mandriva since Mandrake 9 so this may have changed). Those are the two _main_ categories of distribution but there is so much more. I'm a Slackware guy but that's because I yearn for the more simple days and it is not for everyone. It has a small (comparatively) package repository that is not as easy to use as Debian or the RPM-based distro's repos but there is slackbuilds.org which is pretty easy to use. To be honest, most distros are derivatives of one of these (mostly Debian and Red Hat) but there are oddities like SUSE which uses RPM's (or at least did the last time I checked) but is rather different to other RPM based distros.
I really don't think you can just read about a distro to figure out if you'll like it or not as if you are using it for general computing then any of the majors will do you just fine. It's a matter of personal taste and, to a certain extent, what you get used to. I started off as a Debian guy so I was, until about 3 years ago, comfortable with most Debian derivatives. But I ran out of things to break so I switched to Slackware! Have a go at a few and play around under the hood to see if you like how things are laid out. It's fun, I promise!
I don't like to feed trolls normally but I do wonder that if T. Rolland McFlamebait over here had posted something akin to "The thing is, most Chinese see Internet Explorer as 'The Internet'" people would find it less acceptable. It seems, at least to me and maybe I _am_ biased, that it's often fine to beat-up on Americans or use the convenient stereotype without the racist connotations that would be associated were you talking about another culture or people.
The open source parts are, the closed source parts aren't. Characterizing the entire package as OSS would be wrong but to say it's not open source at all is also wrong.
True, but I have to say that Duke's delivery (too lazy to look up voice actor's name) is far superior than Hot Rod's. "I am here [long pause] to chew bubblegum [long pause] and [long pause] kick [long pause] ass [long pause] and I'm [long pause] all [long pause] out[long pause] uh [long pause] bubblegum". It's so labored!
The idea is great. PulseAudio is an excellent solution for networked audio and thin unix clients. Now the problem is the people and the distros installing it by default on a desktop where it is utterly useless. No matter how close to bug-free it is, it is an unneeded source of bugs in that case.
But not for dual-boot workstations where users' home dirs are samba shares as it leaves symlinks to/tmp in the.pulse directory of each user that, when a user logs on to a different workstation, prevent Gnome from loading unless the pulse processes are killed. We have had to dump pulse in favor of esound (I work at a University) which doesn't have these issues. Sound, thankfully, isn't that critical on our dual boot XP/Ubuntu boxes but pulse has caused us all manner of issues with these pesky symlinks. I don't think the way our institution does home dirs is especially clever but it's not uncommon.
And for those of us who don't really choose, but just take what we can get? Sure, some (maybe most) of your increase will go to people who have the choice, and who could probably pay for the whole damn thing themselves, but if you think that that's too much trouble to go through to help the people who actually need it, I think you need your moral compass checked out a bit.
I'm not so sure. Let's take a hypothetical: There's a city of 400,000 homes with a concentrated population, the country this city is in has several similar sized cities all with local ISP's providing high quality internet service. Several companies have gone national and are offering services across the cities. In between the cities, however, are many small communities with populations ranging from just a few to a few thousand, there are smaller, less well-off ISP's in some of these communities but they do not have the means or demand to offer service comparable to the ISP's in the city, some of the national ISP's even have a presence in the larger of the small communities but, due to the vastness of the country, the lack of demand and therefore the lack of sustainable revenue or investment recovery expedience they decide to offer a product comparable to the local ISP's. Then the government steps in, having looked at the situation on a map and says "OK, so we've got great speed here cities where there is financial, hi-tech and other business that relies on this technology but in these areas where the primary industries are agriculture and the people making the most noise about speed are either very small businesses or individuals we have slower speeds." an accurate assessment. The conclusion they then come to is "Let's make a law that says the companies have to provide the same service in these low population, low profit profit, low demand areas as in the high profit, high population, high demand areas". A staffer puts his hand up sheepishly and says "Sir, I don't think that'll fly. The companies will want something back". The politician scratches his head and says "We'll just do what we always do and couch it in the language of it being a human right, nobody can object to that". So, in our fictional country the ISP's are _forced_ to provide the same service in the country as they do in the city and the small ISP's in the country are wiped-out or bought up and some of the city specific ISP's go out of business because they can't compete with the new, national infrastructure that one of the trans-city ISP's with a presence in the country built at great cost. A year later the ISP is not seeing return on its investment and goes to the government for a bail out costing the taxpayer money and placing addition financial burdens on the populous.
To summarize, when someone says or even implies that "There ought to be a law" there really shouldn't.
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Ditto on the OS?Browser combo here. According to page 6 of the Mozilla support ticket for this says the "cool previews" add-on is causing the only sound issue.
That would be hilarious but I doubt they would actually watch anything. They'll probably hash every file on your machine and compare it to a hash database of known files. We do a similar thing in the computer forensics field but with hashes of known CP. This whole thing just seems overarching and a waste of time to me. I would applaud anyone who fills their drive with porn before going to Oz just to waste their time.
So, finally, what I implied was that, while I despised tv fortune tellers (or other businesses based on taking money fro the uninformed), I'd not stop them from continuing with their job. I'd rather use them as pointers to where is the education/information system failing.
That seems completely reasonable to me, the ambiguity of discussion forums clearly caused some misunderstanding here!
I don't judge the product. I despise those who work on finding ways of monetizing the product, even at the expesnse of offering an inferior product.
Fair enough, I don't like Microsoft's products but I will not begrudge them their profit, that's the free market. Consumers will not always make the smartest choices but it is up to them to make that choice be it wise in your eyes or not. Anyway, what's wrong with making money?
What leads to a fool proof society is the idea of solving dangers by forbidding them, instead of using them as indicators of where the education, or public information, systems are failing.
Wow, way to show your despotic cards. Let's examine that statement, you think that "forbidding dangers" is a solution that leads to a "fool proof society"? Who, pray tell, is the arbiter of these "dangers" and who enforces the actual "forbidding". I'm not a smoker but I don't believe I, or anyone else, has the right to tell smokers that they can't smoke. Smoking, as we all know, is extremely hazardous to their health and by applying your logic to my example we arrive at the conclusion that it should be "forbidden". Do we empower the police to do this or some form of other force to curb this "forbidden" behavior? I'm just curious how long it takes you to reach the inevitable conclusion that your type of anti-liberty thinking leads to.
I understand your perspective but, respectfully, consider it a little naive. I think that as sopssa said, if people are enjoying the product what's so harmful about it? I would agree if they were destroying their lives or harming others but this really is no different than people playing MMORPG's. The vast majority of MMORPG players do so responsibly and in moderation. You can't condemn the product because of the few who take it to an extreme. It's that sort of logic that leads to a society of rounded corners and no risk, a world that simply can't exist.
The game itself is free to play but it's designed to encourage players to draw friends into it and to spend real money on it.
So it's actually a very sophisticated and subversive MLM (Multi Level Marketing) program that rewards participants with a video game. Having never played it I didn't realize this but whomever the genius is who came up with that deserves every cent they make!
Chrome runs the plugin in its own process, so the probability of Flash locking up the browser is zero to begin with.
That's like saying the Titanic can't sink because the sealing bulkheads are part of the ship itself. All that happens is that the water overflows the compartments and the whole ship sinks. Such is the case with this, you said yourself that you have a taskbar icon to kill an unresponsive flash plugin process. Surely if the plugin is coded into the browser when that part of the program fails the entire browser will lock up and you'll have to kill chrome rather than just libflashplugin. I can't see this being a good thing.
Absolutely. Even the "nice" christians somehow find it in their heart to hate homosexuals, and their public stance against their civil rights is no less ugly because it's done with a smug smile.
If you're a religious believer, you've already established yourself as partially insane
It's interesting to me how you manage to both decry tolerance and display an utter lack of it so concisely in one post. Bravo biggot.
Hey jackass, how many people do we have trying to identify new elements anywhere else besides Earth?
Actually, Helium was discovered not on Earth, but the Sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium
By a French astronomer (Pierre Janssen) during a total eclipse. I'm guessing that since eclipses aren't exactly apparent when down there he wasn't exactly scraping around on the surface of the sun when he discovered. it. So it was discovered on Earth by observing the sun.
While I don't entirely disagree with your point (that came out more snarky thank I'd hoped, sorry!) I have to say that the Coke/Pepsi analogy is not really a fair comparison as business critical applications (aside from geeks) don't run on sugary drinks. It's all a fairly academic argument as I can't think of a situation that I know of (feel free to enlighten me anyone) where MS has specifically forbidden a company (read ISV) from running their applications on their OS. In fact it seems the opposite is true otherwise projects like MONO would have been crushed by Redmond's army of lawyers long ago. Apple are a very marginal company as far as the international installed desktop base goes so while they are making money they aren't anywhere near the level of MS (the RC cola to your Coke perhaps?).
That is pretty nerdy but what you really want to do is replace that four banger up front with a V8 in the bed and your trunk in the front, that would be awesome. To go back on topic, I also have a Saab (9-5 Aero 2.3) and I think the nerdiest feature on the current/recent generation is the utterly pointless "Night Panel" button which switches all the interior lights off with the exception of the speedometer up to 90MPH, I've used it maybe once where I've thought it was useful (late night trip out to the Salt Flats). Plus any executive sedan with a boost meter is good in my estimation!
A keen riposte sir, I applaud you. *tips hat*
A *moron* would have fouled it all up somehow
Have you ever _used_ Vista?
Well in that case it's working like a Diesel-Electric locomotive so it would be running at fairly constant revs when cruising and increased revs when pulling off or accelerating hard. It is hard to say what kind of power requirements would be needed without the spec of the engine and electric motors but I can't see it being any less fuel efficient than a standard car but I could be wrong. To be honest if you've gotten this far through my stream of consciousness ramblings then I applaud you. I'm gonna go get a breath of fresh air I think.
All developers are blue collar. Programming is the IT equivalent of brick laying, it's a trade, not a profession.
Professions have legal status; Doctors, lawyers, accountants have to be certified and approved.
Well not really. How many brick layers do you know that not only lay the bricks but make them, design the building, or part of the building that they are laying the bricks for and know how to do the same job with dry stone, breeze blocks, molded concrete and sheet metal? Your oversimplification illustrates your ignorance of what a developer does or you're just trolling and have been thoroughly fed.
No, Shatner (Captain Kirk) was the one who replaced Jeffrey Hunter (Captain Pike).
The main thing that I remember about the original pilot was that Spock yelled a lot. I guess this was filmed before they had electronic microphones.
Or figured out the nuances of the Vulcan psyche.
I would actually advocate having a go at a few using VMWare or the likes. I worked my way through many major and a few minor distros that caught my fancy on Distro Watch back when I was working nights doing tech support at a university using an old PIII-500. Ah those were the days *gets a little misty-eyed*. I can, however, honestly say that installing Gentoo was one of the most informative (and yes, frustrating) experiences of my early Linux days. If you want to learn how a system is structured I would advise you do it. But back to your question (a little). The major distros all offer pretty much the same experience just implemented differently. Debian-based distro's (Ubuntu, MEPIS etc) offer a huge amount of installable packages that are easily acquired by using one of several package managers (Synaptic being the main one). Red Hat (or RPM) based distros are similar to Debian based distros in that there is a large amount of software available and it's often easy to find, Mandriva has urpmi which is a neat little package manager but may require additional setup after install (mea culpa: I haven't used Mandriva since Mandrake 9 so this may have changed). Those are the two _main_ categories of distribution but there is so much more. I'm a Slackware guy but that's because I yearn for the more simple days and it is not for everyone. It has a small (comparatively) package repository that is not as easy to use as Debian or the RPM-based distro's repos but there is slackbuilds.org which is pretty easy to use. To be honest, most distros are derivatives of one of these (mostly Debian and Red Hat) but there are oddities like SUSE which uses RPM's (or at least did the last time I checked) but is rather different to other RPM based distros.
I really don't think you can just read about a distro to figure out if you'll like it or not as if you are using it for general computing then any of the majors will do you just fine. It's a matter of personal taste and, to a certain extent, what you get used to. I started off as a Debian guy so I was, until about 3 years ago, comfortable with most Debian derivatives. But I ran out of things to break so I switched to Slackware! Have a go at a few and play around under the hood to see if you like how things are laid out. It's fun, I promise!
I don't like to feed trolls normally but I do wonder that if T. Rolland McFlamebait over here had posted something akin to "The thing is, most Chinese see Internet Explorer as 'The Internet'" people would find it less acceptable. It seems, at least to me and maybe I _am_ biased, that it's often fine to beat-up on Americans or use the convenient stereotype without the racist connotations that would be associated were you talking about another culture or people.
The open source parts are, the closed source parts aren't. Characterizing the entire package as OSS would be wrong but to say it's not open source at all is also wrong.
True, but I have to say that Duke's delivery (too lazy to look up voice actor's name) is far superior than Hot Rod's. "I am here [long pause] to chew bubblegum [long pause] and [long pause] kick [long pause] ass [long pause] and I'm [long pause] all [long pause] out[long pause] uh [long pause] bubblegum". It's so labored!
The idea is great. PulseAudio is an excellent solution for networked audio and thin unix clients. Now the problem is the people and the distros installing it by default on a desktop where it is utterly useless. No matter how close to bug-free it is, it is an unneeded source of bugs in that case.
But not for dual-boot workstations where users' home dirs are samba shares as it leaves symlinks to /tmp in the .pulse directory of each user that, when a user logs on to a different workstation, prevent Gnome from loading unless the pulse processes are killed. We have had to dump pulse in favor of esound (I work at a University) which doesn't have these issues. Sound, thankfully, isn't that critical on our dual boot XP/Ubuntu boxes but pulse has caused us all manner of issues with these pesky symlinks. I don't think the way our institution does home dirs is especially clever but it's not uncommon.
And for those of us who don't really choose, but just take what we can get? Sure, some (maybe most) of your increase will go to people who have the choice, and who could probably pay for the whole damn thing themselves, but if you think that that's too much trouble to go through to help the people who actually need it, I think you need your moral compass checked out a bit.
I'm not so sure. Let's take a hypothetical: There's a city of 400,000 homes with a concentrated population, the country this city is in has several similar sized cities all with local ISP's providing high quality internet service. Several companies have gone national and are offering services across the cities. In between the cities, however, are many small communities with populations ranging from just a few to a few thousand, there are smaller, less well-off ISP's in some of these communities but they do not have the means or demand to offer service comparable to the ISP's in the city, some of the national ISP's even have a presence in the larger of the small communities but, due to the vastness of the country, the lack of demand and therefore the lack of sustainable revenue or investment recovery expedience they decide to offer a product comparable to the local ISP's. Then the government steps in, having looked at the situation on a map and says "OK, so we've got great speed here cities where there is financial, hi-tech and other business that relies on this technology but in these areas where the primary industries are agriculture and the people making the most noise about speed are either very small businesses or individuals we have slower speeds." an accurate assessment. The conclusion they then come to is "Let's make a law that says the companies have to provide the same service in these low population, low profit profit, low demand areas as in the high profit, high population, high demand areas". A staffer puts his hand up sheepishly and says "Sir, I don't think that'll fly. The companies will want something back". The politician scratches his head and says "We'll just do what we always do and couch it in the language of it being a human right, nobody can object to that". So, in our fictional country the ISP's are _forced_ to provide the same service in the country as they do in the city and the small ISP's in the country are wiped-out or bought up and some of the city specific ISP's go out of business because they can't compete with the new, national infrastructure that one of the trans-city ISP's with a presence in the country built at great cost. A year later the ISP is not seeing return on its investment and goes to the government for a bail out costing the taxpayer money and placing addition financial burdens on the populous. To summarize, when someone says or even implies that "There ought to be a law" there really shouldn't.
I actually really like the Stinkman games over at H*R, they are awesome parodies of the Megaman games.
How can me calling myself a retard be flamebait? Seriously people, come on.
Holy fetch, sublught? I give up, need sleep.