It's hard to believe that could happen in a developed democratic country. This is almost as unlikely as the "HIV does not cause AIDS" theory. You would need some very strong sources to convince me of that. Specifically,
It's well known that the authorities in Spain keep tabs on most of the organisation and could probably round up most of them overnight if they really wanted.
I really doubt the Spanish population would allow the government to behave like this. Get real.
I don't rely on the package manager if I want the latest version anymore.
What do you mean by "don't rely on the package manager"? Do you install software that are not in.deb packages? That would be a terrible way to administer a system and hope it keeps consistent. Using a reasonably current Ubuntu release, plus (possibly) the backports repository, seems enough for me. And if for any reason you do need a package that is not in the normal repositories nor in backports, please make a.deb from it. There are tools for that. Also, software like wine has its own repository that always has the latest, and it is an *Ubuntu repository*. You get all the comfort of package management, automatic updates... In summary, please respect your system integrity and avoid non-.deb packages at all costs.
The elections on Brazil seem to work fine, in fact many of the "left" parties (Brazil has many political parties) felt their numbers get better after the electronic voting was installed (...) as I said the system has been show to give results that are bad for the current government, that is the one witch could more easily tamper with the election, several times..
Huh? The current government is left... Lula's Worker's Party is partly center-left (regarding the economy) and partly far-left (international relations - befriending Hugo Chavez, Evo Moralez, Fidel Castro and claiming that FARC are not terrorists - and relations with armed groups such as the Landless Rural Workers Movement and the Poor Peasant League, which are currently allowed to impose their ideology by force, such as seizing the property of land owners that said movements judge as being too rich, destroying property of companies they don't like, or destroying university laboratories that perform genetic research).
Brazilian politics if far more leftist than in the U.S (for you American readers). United Socialist Workers' Party, Workers's Cause Party, the Communist Party and the Socialism and Freedom Party are far-left; Lula's Worker's Party was far-left, but has become partly center-left and partly far-left; Fernando Henrique Cardoso's Brazilian Social Democracy Party is center-left; the Socialist People's Party is center-left; Brazilian Democratic Movement Party is centrist/populist; the Brazilian Democrats are center-right. Of the many other parties, almost all have allied themselves to the Worker's Party (which is widely believed to have bought this support), including the Progressive Party, the only former right-wing party of Brasil. Brasil has currently zero right-wing parties. The Socialism and Freedom Party oppose Lula, because they think Lula is not *far-leftist enough*. Apart from this, only the Brazilian Social Democracy Party, the Brazilian Democrats and the Socialist People's Party oppose Lula, accusing him of being corrupt, incompetent, demagogic, befriending leftist dictators and marxist guerrillas, and not controlling the armed groups mentioned before.
Well, I now see the other link (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2008-July/095029.html) does say
"So please download a copy of Minefield, test it thoroughly on Wikimedia Commons video (...)
, but perhaps the author forgot the word "beta". I think it is foolish to try an alpha version. It probably wouldn't even be very useful to the developers. They are probably struggling with known bugs and don't want people complaing about stuff they already know doesn't work.
The developers [of ffmpeg2theora] don't have bugzilla and don't respond to email
The one email I sent to the ffmpeg2theora developers was responded quickly. Maybe what happened with you was an exception. Also, from the pace of new releases an new features it seems that the software is evolving nicely.
Let me ask you, if Joe has been "caught" by the police, and he "knows that John and Bob are drug dealers," what kind of a person is Joe? Just a good citizen doing his civic duty?
No. He is a criminal. But we would be a worse criminal if he did not cooperate with the police.
The reason they're called "rats" is because they are turning in their own friends.
Their *criminal* friends. Those who will commit more crimes if not arrested.
A citizen staying at an accident scene to act as a witness, or calling 911 because it sounds like the woman living next door is getting the shit beat out of her, or the citizen who finds lost money and turns it in to the police are doing their civic duty.
Of course.
But you raise the spectre of morality, and apparently give anyone who cooperates with the athorities for 30 peices of silver a pass.
The 30 pieces of silver concept refers to Judas Iscariot, who *betrayed* Jesus. Not "ratted".
Traitor: One who violates trust. Word has positive connotations on those who are betrayed: it is assumed that they were doing nothing wrong, and should not be persecuted for their actions. It is immoral to betray. Rat: One who cooperates with the authorities, reporting that his (criminal) friends were committing a crime - when they were indeed committing a crime! Word has criminal connotations on who uses it: it assumes that those who were "ratted" were committing crimes, but they should not be arrested by the police, because their crime is nobody's business, and "the pigs" should "stay out of our way".
So: A policeman who gives classified information to drug dealers, is a traitor. His action is immoral. A drug dealer who cooperate with the police gets called a rat by other drug dealers. His action is moral (the cooperation - not his previous crimes), but as it is not in the interest of the drug dealers, it is "criminally immoral" - that is, it is immoral in the distorted morality of the criminals.
To me, a "narc," "rat" or "snitch" is someone who gets caught at something, so he rats out others who were doing the same thing as he was so he can get off lightly, thus profiting from whatever he was doing wrong, then further serving his own interests at the expense of others by ratting them out.
These words are used by criminals to label people who cooperate with policemen. And are you seriously suggesting it is wrong to cooperate with the police? A specific case: if Joe is caught by the police and he knows that John and Bob are drug dealers, are you seriously saying that Joe should not talk to the police about them? Again, wow...
This case is different. The above-mentioned douche bag set up his former employer and profited from it
You probably are not that stupid and I am feeding a troll, but I'll answer.
McDonnalds gives you a discount for buying craploads of soft drink (so 500 ml is not 67% more expensive than 300 ml)? Legal. McDonnalds gives you a discount for *not* buying at Burger King? Illegal.
"narc"? "rat"? "snitch"? Are you the kind of person who calls policemen "pigs" and think that people who help policeman against criminals are "snitches"? That it is good to cover the crimes of friends? And you talk about moral? Wow...
Who modded the parent "Troll"? I disagree with the parent, but I see absolutely no reason to call him "troll". I think people tend to assume bad faith, even when good faith is possible and often the most likely possibility.
After I finish my exam week I may read all your links... Anyway, I am speaking about the long term storage. It is stored on water temporarily. And shielded as hell. Anyway,
Both of them mention that spent fuel is stored for several years underwater for cooling, but only the anti-nuclear one mentions what would happen if the coolant was removed. And I doubt it mentions the security mechanisms that keep the coolant in place.
Irrational fear for nuclear power keeps us using coal. Nobody wins. Except, of course, Greenpeace, which gets more attention and funding.
By the way, what do you suggest in place of nuclear power?
If an accident drains one of those swimming pools holding the waste it could catch fire and a lot of it would be aerosolized. Hum? I dont think so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste_disposal#Management_of_waste Decent democratic developed countries treat their radioactive waste very seriously. When handled in this manner, radioactive waste is very safe, and undoubtedly far more environmentally friendly than coal waste.
You forgot to mention that coal burning releases its poison into the air, while nuclear waste is solid. Nuclear, is vastly more environmentally friendly than coal burning.
I don't think you have to download the Windows version. You just have to download from the Mozilla site (like I just did). They have Linux versions there (obviously).
Your post contains inaccuracies and should not be at +5. I see that you got your story from the Wikipedia article. I have deleted the Masri case from that Wikipedia article, and left only the link to the main Masri article. I have not carefully compared the main Masri article to the section about Masri in the article you read, but I did see inaccuracies in that section while I saw no inaccuracies in the main article. And when I edit Wikipedia, my opinion is If it is badly written, and looks false, delete it. I do not need proof of lack of quality to delete it. On the contrary, those who want it here need to prove it is good.
He could have called it Software Libre, AFAIK, "software libre" is not English.
or FSF Software, or Stallman software All right, here you are not even being serious.
Or why not "open source"? Because it does not capture the meaning. For example, Java has had its source exposed for a long time, but only recently has it become free software.
his definition of Free only includes GPL What?!
You don't need to pay Microsoft to get exFAT. You need to pay them for Vista, or rather the person you bought your machine did. You don't need to pay them for SP1. Hence it's free. You give Microsoft money, they give you a copy of Windows and the opportunity of downloading future updates. The updates are a (essential) part of the package and the package is not free. The funny thing is that it was you that was complaining about word-twisting in the first place...
Do you seriously believe that the English language is broken and lacks the tools to explain the FSF's ideas? Or any ideas for that matter. Isn't it more likely that the person who said that just sucks at explaining the ideas and is arrogant enough to blame the language. Please, man. The grand parent just said that "language which lacks the proper tools to make that easy.". The point is that, should Richard Stallman be Brazilian, he would have coined the expression "Software livre". But as an American, the expression that came to him was "Free Software", which is ambiguous. What expression could have we coined with a single adjective next to the word "software"? I don't know of a simple adjective in English that is an unambiguous translation of the Portuguese word "livre". So English does not make the job easy in this regard. The point is: we are not saying it is impossible to express this idea in Enlish. We are saying that it is *not easy* to express it *with a simple, short expression* like "Software livre".
Besides, exFAT still costs money to the user, as Vista SP1's license explicitly requires that the user has bought a valid license for Vista, which almost never costs zero, except if the user got it through some channels as MSDNAA. Well so what. I don't have exFAT on my machine that came with Vista. I download SP1. I have exFAT. According to the non FSF definition of "free" exFAT is free. I didn't have to pay for it. Oh, please. I cannot have it without paying Microsoft. Simple enough.
The story in the parent post has flaws. 1) It does not mention the fact the the authorities believed his passport to be false. So they didn't detain him just because of his name. 2) The hair analysis only showed that the subject suffered malnutrition, which is no surprise given that he commited a hunger strike.
I am not saying that something wrong wasn't committed by the CIA. It is just that posts with important flaws should not be at +5.
Firefox already has a lot o pressure. It has competition in the free software world and competition in the proprietary world. Not to mention that IE comes preinstalled in 90+% of computers, and, given the apathy of most people regarding software, Firefox has to be *vastly better* than IE (and it is) to motivate the work of installing it.
For all of the network effects I mentioned, I help Firefox by simply using it. Each additional user is an incentive for more developers to join the development team, which increases the chances of performance improvements.
Some usbkeys cheat, they use a small buffer of fast flash. Small writes go fast, but sustained speed isn't so hot. Don't abuse the word cheat, or any other poor word for that matter. A cache seems to be an actually useful feature for a pen drive, as opposed to a "cheat". A cheat would be something that gave false high numbers.
Haha, very funny. The point is that people normally assume that pen drives are largely equivalent (other than capacity), while they vary very much in speed and vary wildly in durability (although the article claims the most users wont notice any difference in durability).
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It's hard to believe that could happen in a developed democratic country. This is almost as unlikely as the "HIV does not cause AIDS" theory.
You would need some very strong sources to convince me of that.
Specifically,
It's well known that the authorities in Spain keep tabs on most of the organisation and could probably round up most of them overnight if they really wanted.
I really doubt the Spanish population would allow the government to behave like this.
Get real.
What do you mean by "don't rely on the package manager"? Do you install software that are not in .deb packages? That would be a terrible way to administer a system and hope it keeps consistent. .deb from it. There are tools for that.
Using a reasonably current Ubuntu release, plus (possibly) the backports repository, seems enough for me.
And if for any reason you do need a package that is not in the normal repositories nor in backports, please make a
Also, software like wine has its own repository that always has the latest, and it is an *Ubuntu repository*. You get all the comfort of package management, automatic updates...
In summary, please respect your system integrity and avoid non-.deb packages at all costs.
The elections on Brazil seem to work fine, in fact many of the "left" parties (Brazil has many political parties) felt their numbers get better after the electronic voting was installed
(...)
as I said the system has been show to give results that are bad for the current government, that is the one witch could more easily tamper with the election, several times..
Huh? The current government is left...
Lula's Worker's Party is partly center-left (regarding the economy) and partly far-left (international relations - befriending Hugo Chavez, Evo Moralez, Fidel Castro and claiming that FARC are not terrorists - and relations with armed groups such as the Landless Rural Workers Movement and the Poor Peasant League, which are currently allowed to impose their ideology by force, such as seizing the property of land owners that said movements judge as being too rich, destroying property of companies they don't like, or destroying university laboratories that perform genetic research).
Brazilian politics if far more leftist than in the U.S (for you American readers).
United Socialist Workers' Party, Workers's Cause Party, the Communist Party and the Socialism and Freedom Party are far-left; Lula's Worker's Party was far-left, but has become partly center-left and partly far-left; Fernando Henrique Cardoso's Brazilian Social Democracy Party is center-left; the Socialist People's Party is center-left; Brazilian Democratic Movement Party is centrist/populist; the Brazilian Democrats are center-right. Of the many other parties, almost all have allied themselves to the Worker's Party (which is widely believed to have bought this support), including the Progressive Party, the only former right-wing party of Brasil. Brasil has currently zero right-wing parties.
The Socialism and Freedom Party oppose Lula, because they think Lula is not *far-leftist enough*.
Apart from this, only the Brazilian Social Democracy Party, the Brazilian Democrats and the Socialist People's Party oppose Lula, accusing him of being corrupt, incompetent, demagogic, befriending leftist dictators and marxist guerrillas, and not controlling the armed groups mentioned before.
Well, I now see the other link (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2008-July/095029.html) does say
, but perhaps the author forgot the word "beta". I think it is foolish to try an alpha version. It probably wouldn't even be very useful to the developers. They are probably struggling with known bugs and don't want people complaing about stuff they already know doesn't work.
No, they aren't pushing for people to download a nightly right now. They say
(emphasis mine)
It would be naive to ask people to test code added one day before.
*encoder*, you mean.
The one email I sent to the ffmpeg2theora developers was responded quickly. Maybe what happened with you was an exception.
Also, from the pace of new releases an new features it seems that the software is evolving nicely.
No. He is a criminal. But we would be a worse criminal if he did not cooperate with the police.
Their *criminal* friends. Those who will commit more crimes if not arrested.
Of course.
The 30 pieces of silver concept refers to Judas Iscariot, who *betrayed* Jesus. Not "ratted".
Traitor: One who violates trust. Word has positive connotations on those who are betrayed: it is assumed that they were doing nothing wrong, and should not be persecuted for their actions. It is immoral to betray.
Rat: One who cooperates with the authorities, reporting that his (criminal) friends were committing a crime - when they were indeed committing a crime! Word has criminal connotations on who uses it: it assumes that those who were "ratted" were committing crimes, but they should not be arrested by the police, because their crime is nobody's business, and "the pigs" should "stay out of our way".
So:
A policeman who gives classified information to drug dealers, is a traitor. His action is immoral.
A drug dealer who cooperate with the police gets called a rat by other drug dealers. His action is moral (the cooperation - not his previous crimes), but as it is not in the interest of the drug dealers, it is "criminally immoral" - that is, it is immoral in the distorted morality of the criminals.
These words are used by criminals to label people who cooperate with policemen. And are you seriously suggesting it is wrong to cooperate with the police? A specific case: if Joe is caught by the police and he knows that John and Bob are drug dealers, are you seriously saying that Joe should not talk to the police about them?
Again, wow...
Did he say he set them up?
You probably are not that stupid and I am feeding a troll, but I'll answer.
McDonnalds gives you a discount for buying craploads of soft drink (so 500 ml is not 67% more expensive than 300 ml)? Legal.
McDonnalds gives you a discount for *not* buying at Burger King? Illegal.
Is that hard to understand?
"narc"? "rat"? "snitch"?
Are you the kind of person who calls policemen "pigs" and think that people who help policeman against criminals are "snitches"? That it is good to cover the crimes of friends?
And you talk about moral?
Wow...
Who modded the parent "Troll"? I disagree with the parent, but I see absolutely no reason to call him "troll". I think people tend to assume bad faith, even when good faith is possible and often the most likely possibility.
Anyway, I am speaking about the long term storage. It is stored on water temporarily. And shielded as hell.
Anyway, Both of them mention that spent fuel is stored for several years underwater for cooling, but only the anti-nuclear one mentions what would happen if the coolant was removed. And I doubt it mentions the security mechanisms that keep the coolant in place.
Irrational fear for nuclear power keeps us using coal. Nobody wins. Except, of course, Greenpeace, which gets more attention and funding.
By the way, what do you suggest in place of nuclear power?
I dont think so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste_disposal#Management_of_waste
Decent democratic developed countries treat their radioactive waste very seriously. When handled in this manner, radioactive waste is very safe, and undoubtedly far more environmentally friendly than coal waste.
You forgot to mention that coal burning releases its poison into the air, while nuclear waste is solid. Nuclear, is vastly more environmentally friendly than coal burning.
It looks like all the common sense in the world is concentrated in the parent.
I would mod you up if I had mod points (and you were not already at +5)
I don't think you have to download the Windows version. You just have to download from the Mozilla site (like I just did). They have Linux versions there (obviously).
Your post contains inaccuracies and should not be at +5.
I see that you got your story from the Wikipedia article. I have deleted the Masri case from that Wikipedia article, and left only the link to the main Masri article. I have not carefully compared the main Masri article to the section about Masri in the article you read, but I did see inaccuracies in that section while I saw no inaccuracies in the main article. And when I edit Wikipedia, my opinion is
If it is badly written, and looks false, delete it. I do not need proof of lack of quality to delete it. On the contrary, those who want it here need to prove it is good.
The point is: we are not saying it is impossible to express this idea in Enlish. We are saying that it is *not easy* to express it *with a simple, short expression* like "Software livre". Besides, exFAT still costs money to the user, as Vista SP1's license explicitly requires that the user has bought a valid license for Vista, which almost never costs zero, except if the user got it through some channels as MSDNAA. Well so what. I don't have exFAT on my machine that came with Vista. I download SP1. I have exFAT. According to the non FSF definition of "free" exFAT is free. I didn't have to pay for it. Oh, please. I cannot have it without paying Microsoft. Simple enough.
The story in the parent post has flaws.
1) It does not mention the fact the the authorities believed his passport to be false. So they didn't detain him just because of his name.
2) The hair analysis only showed that the subject suffered malnutrition, which is no surprise given that he commited a hunger strike.
I am not saying that something wrong wasn't committed by the CIA. It is just that posts with important flaws should not be at +5.
Firefox already has a lot o pressure. It has competition in the free software world and competition in the proprietary world. Not to mention that IE comes preinstalled in 90+% of computers, and, given the apathy of most people regarding software, Firefox has to be *vastly better* than IE (and it is) to motivate the work of installing it.
For all of the network effects I mentioned, I help Firefox by simply using it. Each additional user is an incentive for more developers to join the development team, which increases the chances of performance improvements.
Haha, very funny.
The point is that people normally assume that pen drives are largely equivalent (other than capacity), while they vary very much in speed and vary wildly in durability (although the article claims the most users wont notice any difference in durability).
Thank you for the suggestion, then. I'll get to watch it.