You shouldn't cancel your disgust because they backpedeled on this ONLY after the internet "took them to the woodshed". The fact that they came up with such an insane clause in their severance IN THE FIRST PLACE wouldn't do a thing to remove *my* disgust with them. I don't live in an area where they have branches, so I really couldn't close any accounts I might have with them, but as for my disgust, its completely up and running quite well, thank you very much... God Damn Fucking banks... So glad *my* money has been in credit unions for over 30 years...
Do yourself a favor and skip going to *another* bank... They're ALL pig-fuckers... Credit unions are the way to go.. The wife and I have had our accounts in one credit union or another for the past 30 years. I'd had mine in one prior to us hooking up in 1985, and she'd had her account in one also, so when we got hitched, we moved them to one credit union. I have ONE exception, where I have a self-managed IRA with USAA Bank, but they're one of the VERY few good banks...
Las Vegas is not considered a big data-center hub, but Switch has had several large data-centers here, and the previous record-holder for the largest data-center in the world here for a few years...
The way things are going, I'm quite sure you're absolutely right.. But let me be the first to say this: "They'll pry my adblocker from my cold, dead fingers"....
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and opine that MS has been "asked" to help fill up that big new NSA data center in Utah, and they really really need EVERYBODY to be running Windows 10 (or 7/8/8.1 with the spy-ware addons) to fill up that big beautful treasure trove of OUR data...... Tell me my tinfoil hat's too tight, I don't care.. Thats what it looks like to me... Thank goodness I've given up sucking from the MS tit, and moved all MY systems to Linux...
I moved my systems in 2010, when I retired.. If enough people move to Linux, I can see where the government will find a way to call us Linux users "terrorists"... There was a time when I'd think my tinfoil hat was too tight if I had an idea like that, but no more.....
I have a small side business (me and two other techs) doing Windows cleanup and upgrades of older systems still on XP over to XUbuntu. Since about 2011, we've done over 30 such systems, and in most cases, before the upgrade our phone number was on the customers speeddial, due to constant malware infestations.. We rarely hear from those folks anymore... Since Windows 10 has come out, we've had several customers who bought brandnew systems at a big-box store come to us and ask about what they'd heard about Windows 10 and its blabbing everything to MS... We showed them several traffic analysis done on an "uncastrated" copy of Win10. In both cases, the owners opted for us to install Linux on their systems. I told them that we *could* run some tools that would disable the especially blatant spying aspects, but there was ZERO assurance that MS would not come out with an update that would roll our "castration" back... Our recommendation was to stop using MS products if the customer had ANY concerns about privacy and Microsoft...
Sooooooo nice to see somebody else who sees Win10 for what it is... I moved all my systems over to Linux when I retired in 2010... Could'nt be happier..
These ads are only the tip of the iceberg.... It scares me how many supposedly knowledgable techies still don't see the spyware nightmare that IS Windows 10... I'm so glad I decided to quit using MS products when I retired in 2010.. I supported Windows systems (and Linux) for close to 25 years, and in my last job before retirement, I was split 50-50 timewise on Windows and Linux support, I dreaded the Windows support... Looks like I made the right choice when I retired...
AND with MS, you have NO assurance that once you've removed an "update", or run a registry hack, that MS won't come along and shove another "update" on you that turns whatEVER crap you've turned OFF (on YOUR computer) back ON again.. And you'll never know what these "updates" are for, as they seem to have removed all of the descriptions on each update.. Now its just "you'll take our updates and you'll LIKE it!!!".... As I've said before "FUCK MS!!!"
I think, as more and more people come to the conclusion that MS is BAD+EVIL, there will be an exodus away from MS products, at least by those who aren't locked in by reasons... FUCK MS!
I'm happy to pay a bit of money for an OS that doesn't invade my privacy, thanks.
Come on over to Linux, the waters fine, and you won't have to pay anything for it, unless you go for Redhat's workstation version... Why anybody would, I'll never know...
Yet another reason I'm ever thankful I moved all my systems to Linux after I retired from 25 years supporting Microsoft's crap... What with Windows 10 sending everything you do on *your* system to MS (and NSA???) and now this bullshit, I feel VERY sorry for anybody who still sucks on MS's tit...
Future oppression in much of the world is likely to be built on top of tools and products that today are being provided for our "convenience."
Like a computer operating system thats used by multiple millions of people worldwide, where the vendor of said operating system is giving out said operating system for free, not out of the goodness of their heart, but because they want to get it on EVERY computer in the world. "What's wrong with that?" you might ask... Consider that this operating system has been proven to send EVERYTHING you do on *your* computer to said operating system vendor.. The vendor hides all this spying behind a giant document written in a dialect of the English language called "lawyerese".. They tout this "hoovering up" everything you do as being "convienient" for the user, and to "help" the user with his day-to-day work.. And to be sure that those who are still on the older versions of this vendors operating systems don't miss out on this "convinience", they force-feed updates to these older versions, and make it difficult to identify and remove these "updates".. And the most terrifying thing about this whole matter, is NOBOBY SEEMS TO CARE, other than those of us who don't buy into the BS that comes from this operating system vendor and use an alternate operating system that just coincidentially is ALSO free..
Sure, you can disable the telemetry.. I have a laptop drive with the released version of 10, which I "castrated" with one of the tools available to do the job, and after watching what the system "talked" to afterwards, via an instance of rpcapd on my router, I could find no traffic to/from the many "telemetry" addresses that an UN-castrated install would be talking to, so, at least until MS decides to throw an update out which turns all the spyware features BACK ON, this install of 10 is safe to use... Of course I trust MS about as far as I can throw them, so its just a matter of time before they re-set all the systems that have disabled the spyware "features"... Which is why I'm sooo thankful I dumped Windows after I retired in 2010.. The *only* reason I have a copy of 10 and did the testing I did, is because I'm kind of the local "geek" and get asked about Windows quite a bit...
If I was into conspiracy theories, I'd wonder if Apple didn't get a payoff by the carriers to implement this, then silently have it as a default.. Then the carriers get a nice uptick in overage charges... Nah, Apple and the carriers wouldn't do such a thing.... Nah.. I can't even say that without laughing my ass off...
Just another reason why I'm sooooo glad I moved off Windows after I retired.. I spent over 20 years picking up after Windows (and its users) and when I quit that grind, I decided I was done with MS products.. Haven't had a need for Windows since about 2011...
With all of the lemmings flocking towards the cliff in their haste to get their computer sending all they do to BigBrother err.. Microsoft, I suspect those who still suck on the MS tit AND like to mess with IoT stuff will love this.. Those of us who no longer have any use for MS products, will not...
NO KIDDING!! I'm a retired Linux/Windows admin, and I run a tiny local business doing "Windows Janitorial Services" and "upgrading" systems to Linux. The "company" is me and two other guys I knew from my last company prior to retirement. I started the "Linux upgrade" thing with several neighbors who had gotten their older XP systems munged up with a large amount of malware, and had no recovery disks. I gave them a choice: Linux or a new system, as I didnt think they'd appreciate a bll for umpteen hours of cleanup when in their case, it was a "nuke/repave" the system. I gave them an Ubuntu LiveCD and had them run on it a few days.. They approved the install and word spread.. Since this first one around 2010, I've done over 30, all by word of mouth.. Now I'm getting calls about the privacy implications of Windows 10 on a new system the caller just bought.. Once again, the olde "LiveCD" for a couple of days to see if they can do their system use-case on Linux.. So far, I've upgraded several brand new systems that came with 10, and the owners have been quite happy with it.. I suspect as more and more people understand the privacy implications of Windows 10, I could have more business than I know what to do with...
According to microsoft policies [microsoft.com] Windows 7 is already out of mainline support. It will have extended support till 2020. But according to its own policies, win7 should be getting only security updates, no "improvements" nor "enhancements". So in a just and fair world, you should get only critical security updates alone for Windows 7.
But, as Scar told the mouse, "Life isn't fair, is it?".
WHO THE FUCK CARES if it gets no "improvements" nor "enhancements"... 7 was the last tolerable Window s version, and if you can keep that insidious "telemetry" crap off of it, it should be good for the next 5 years or so, if for *some* reason you HAVE to stay on Windows...
You'll get what Microsoft wants and like it, or not - they don't care about your preferences anymore.
If you want to send them a message, stop buying their software. This is a less painful option than it used to be, believe it or not. --
Not only stop buying, but STOP USING their software.. The reason Windows 10 is free is because YOU ARE THE PRODUCT that MS is *selling* to anybody with the right # of $, plus I have to imagine they're in tight with the NSA, since the NSA needs to fill that giant datacenter in Utah, and what better data than EVERYTHING you type, say and see on the computer that *used* to be YOURS and now belongs to MS.. Its a proven fact that 10 keylogs and captures large quantities of video/audio from any microphones/cameras on said system.. I used/admin'ed Windows for over 25 years (1991-2010) and when I retired I swore I'd quit using MS products and stay on Linux. It pains me to see how Americans have become nothing but lemmings running full-tilt off the cliff when it comes to computers... I have no fear either, that *if* enough of us non-lemmings skip sucking on MS's tit, and instead use of the many Linux/BSD distros, it won't be long before we're branded terrorists by this "government".... Hope I'm dead and buried by then (65 now..)
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You shouldn't cancel your disgust because they backpedeled on this ONLY after the internet "took them to the woodshed". The fact that they came up with such an insane clause in their severance IN THE FIRST PLACE wouldn't do a thing to remove *my* disgust with them. I don't live in an area where they have branches, so I really couldn't close any accounts I might have with them, but as for my disgust, its completely up and running quite well, thank you very much... God Damn Fucking banks... So glad *my* money has been in credit unions for over 30 years...
Do yourself a favor and skip going to *another* bank... They're ALL pig-fuckers... Credit unions are the way to go.. The wife and I have had our accounts in one credit union or another for the past 30 years. I'd had mine in one prior to us hooking up in 1985, and she'd had her account in one also, so when we got hitched, we moved them to one credit union. I have ONE exception, where I have a self-managed IRA with USAA Bank, but they're one of the VERY few good banks...
Las Vegas is not considered a big data-center hub, but Switch has had several large data-centers here, and the previous record-holder for the largest data-center in the world here for a few years...
I'm fully expecting getting sued next.
The way things are going, I'm quite sure you're absolutely right.. But let me be the first to say this: "They'll pry my adblocker from my cold, dead fingers"....
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and opine that MS has been "asked" to help fill up that big new NSA data center in Utah, and they really really need EVERYBODY to be running Windows 10 (or 7/8/8.1 with the spy-ware addons) to fill up that big beautful treasure trove of OUR data...... Tell me my tinfoil hat's too tight, I don't care.. Thats what it looks like to me... Thank goodness I've given up sucking from the MS tit, and moved all MY systems to Linux...
I moved my systems in 2010, when I retired.. If enough people move to Linux, I can see where the government will find a way to call us Linux users "terrorists"... There was a time when I'd think my tinfoil hat was too tight if I had an idea like that, but no more.....
I have a small side business (me and two other techs) doing Windows cleanup and upgrades of older systems still on XP over to XUbuntu. Since about 2011, we've done over 30 such systems, and in most cases, before the upgrade our phone number was on the customers speeddial, due to constant malware infestations.. We rarely hear from those folks anymore... Since Windows 10 has come out, we've had several customers who bought brandnew systems at a big-box store come to us and ask about what they'd heard about Windows 10 and its blabbing everything to MS... We showed them several traffic analysis done on an "uncastrated" copy of Win10. In both cases, the owners opted for us to install Linux on their systems. I told them that we *could* run some tools that would disable the especially blatant spying aspects, but there was ZERO assurance that MS would not come out with an update that would roll our "castration" back... Our recommendation was to stop using MS products if the customer had ANY concerns about privacy and Microsoft...
Sooooooo nice to see somebody else who sees Win10 for what it is... I moved all my systems over to Linux when I retired in 2010... Could'nt be happier..
Windows10 is not free software, it is adware.
Windows 10 is not free software, its SPYWARE...
FTFY
These ads are only the tip of the iceberg.... It scares me how many supposedly knowledgable techies still don't see the spyware nightmare that IS Windows 10... I'm so glad I decided to quit using MS products when I retired in 2010.. I supported Windows systems (and Linux) for close to 25 years, and in my last job before retirement, I was split 50-50 timewise on Windows and Linux support, I dreaded the Windows support... Looks like I made the right choice when I retired...
AND with MS, you have NO assurance that once you've removed an "update", or run a registry hack, that MS won't come along and shove another "update" on you that turns whatEVER crap you've turned OFF (on YOUR computer) back ON again.. And you'll never know what these "updates" are for, as they seem to have removed all of the descriptions on each update.. Now its just "you'll take our updates and you'll LIKE it!!!".... As I've said before "FUCK MS!!!"
I think, as more and more people come to the conclusion that MS is BAD+EVIL, there will be an exodus away from MS products, at least by those who aren't locked in by reasons... FUCK MS!
I'm happy to pay a bit of money for an OS that doesn't invade my privacy, thanks.
Come on over to Linux, the waters fine, and you won't have to pay anything for it, unless you go for Redhat's workstation version... Why anybody would, I'll never know...
Yet another reason I'm ever thankful I moved all my systems to Linux after I retired from 25 years supporting Microsoft's crap... What with Windows 10 sending everything you do on *your* system to MS (and NSA???) and now this bullshit, I feel VERY sorry for anybody who still sucks on MS's tit...
Future oppression in much of the world is likely to be built on top of tools and products that today are being provided for our "convenience."
Like a computer operating system thats used by multiple millions of people worldwide, where the vendor of said operating system is giving out said operating system for free, not out of the goodness of their heart, but because they want to get it on EVERY computer in the world. "What's wrong with that?" you might ask... Consider that this operating system has been proven to send EVERYTHING you do on *your* computer to said operating system vendor.. The vendor hides all this spying behind a giant document written in a dialect of the English language called "lawyerese".. They tout this "hoovering up" everything you do as being "convienient" for the user, and to "help" the user with his day-to-day work.. And to be sure that those who are still on the older versions of this vendors operating systems don't miss out on this "convinience", they force-feed updates to these older versions, and make it difficult to identify and remove these "updates".. And the most terrifying thing about this whole matter, is NOBOBY SEEMS TO CARE, other than those of us who don't buy into the BS that comes from this operating system vendor and use an alternate operating system that just coincidentially is ALSO free..
economic competition aka capitalism will always have a place. The targets for the competition will simply become more grandiose.
In Startreks case, witness the species known as the Ferengi, and their "rules of acquisition"...
Sure, you can disable the telemetry.. I have a laptop drive with the released version of 10, which I "castrated" with one of the tools available to do the job, and after watching what the system "talked" to afterwards, via an instance of rpcapd on my router, I could find no traffic to/from the many "telemetry" addresses that an UN-castrated install would be talking to, so, at least until MS decides to throw an update out which turns all the spyware features BACK ON, this install of 10 is safe to use... Of course I trust MS about as far as I can throw them, so its just a matter of time before they re-set all the systems that have disabled the spyware "features"... Which is why I'm sooo thankful I dumped Windows after I retired in 2010.. The *only* reason I have a copy of 10 and did the testing I did, is because I'm kind of the local "geek" and get asked about Windows quite a bit...
If I was into conspiracy theories, I'd wonder if Apple didn't get a payoff by the carriers to implement this, then silently have it as a default.. Then the carriers get a nice uptick in overage charges... Nah, Apple and the carriers wouldn't do such a thing.... Nah.. I can't even say that without laughing my ass off...
Just another reason why I'm sooooo glad I moved off Windows after I retired.. I spent over 20 years picking up after Windows (and its users) and when I quit that grind, I decided I was done with MS products.. Haven't had a need for Windows since about 2011...
With all of the lemmings flocking towards the cliff in their haste to get their computer sending all they do to BigBrother err.. Microsoft, I suspect those who still suck on the MS tit AND like to mess with IoT stuff will love this.. Those of us who no longer have any use for MS products, will not...
Being a retired admin, THAT is my advice to all who ask... Get the F**K OFF WINDOWS!! Linux is NOT hard....
NO KIDDING!! I'm a retired Linux/Windows admin, and I run a tiny local business doing "Windows Janitorial Services" and "upgrading" systems to Linux. The "company" is me and two other guys I knew from my last company prior to retirement. I started the "Linux upgrade" thing with several neighbors who had gotten their older XP systems munged up with a large amount of malware, and had no recovery disks. I gave them a choice: Linux or a new system, as I didnt think they'd appreciate a bll for umpteen hours of cleanup when in their case, it was a "nuke/repave" the system. I gave them an Ubuntu LiveCD and had them run on it a few days.. They approved the install and word spread.. Since this first one around 2010, I've done over 30, all by word of mouth.. Now I'm getting calls about the privacy implications of Windows 10 on a new system the caller just bought.. Once again, the olde "LiveCD" for a couple of days to see if they can do their system use-case on Linux.. So far, I've upgraded several brand new systems that came with 10, and the owners have been quite happy with it.. I suspect as more and more people understand the privacy implications of Windows 10, I could have more business than I know what to do with...
According to microsoft policies [microsoft.com] Windows 7 is already out of mainline support. It will have extended support till 2020. But according to its own policies, win7 should be getting only security updates, no "improvements" nor "enhancements". So in a just and fair world, you should get only critical security updates alone for Windows 7.
But, as Scar told the mouse, "Life isn't fair, is it?".
WHO THE FUCK CARES if it gets no "improvements" nor "enhancements"... 7 was the last tolerable Window s version, and if you can keep that insidious "telemetry" crap off of it, it should be good for the next 5 years or so, if for *some* reason you HAVE to stay on Windows...
Forgot to say "AND FORWARDS IT TO MS".... Wish the FUCK /. would get an "edit-comment" thingie...
You'll get what Microsoft wants and like it, or not - they don't care about your preferences anymore.
If you want to send them a message, stop buying their software. This is a less painful option than it used to be, believe it or not.
--
Not only stop buying, but STOP USING their software.. The reason Windows 10 is free is because YOU ARE THE PRODUCT that MS is *selling* to
anybody with the right # of $, plus I have to imagine they're in tight with the NSA, since the NSA needs to fill that giant datacenter in Utah, and what better
data than EVERYTHING you type, say and see on the computer that *used* to be YOURS and now belongs to MS.. Its a proven fact that 10 keylogs and captures large quantities of video/audio from any microphones/cameras on said system.. I used/admin'ed Windows for over 25 years (1991-2010) and when I retired I swore I'd quit using MS products and stay on Linux. It pains me to see how Americans have become nothing but lemmings running full-tilt off the cliff when it comes to computers... I have no fear either, that *if* enough of us non-lemmings skip sucking on MS's tit, and instead use of the many Linux/BSD distros, it won't be long before we're branded terrorists by this "government".... Hope I'm dead and buried by then (65 now..)
YES THEY WILL!! Unless you completely disable updates, which is stupid...