After Yggdrasil, there was Slackware, then the Linux distribution market segmented into niches (Red Hat for servers, Caldera/Mandrake for workstations, Corel for desktops, SuSE for Europe, and Debian for GNU). There are plenty of shops that have used Linux for years (pre 2.0), so I know that there are production boxen that are still running Slackware instead of Red Hat.
I think Slackware is still relevant, and a great "hacker-ware" environment, and fills the needs of organizations that have used Linux years before these other distributions made their mark, but is there any particular market that Slackware is targeted to?
If the source isn't going to come with it, there really isn't much point to it -- Canvas has always been known as the "jack of all trades, master of none" compared to Adobe/Macromedia/Corel. Free beer is kind of nice, but not if it's skunky.
One valuable thing I can see from this is that Canvas is a somewhat major end user commmercial application entering a space that actually isn't covered too badly by free equivalents. I'd like to see how the free programs will stack up against it.
Though some people might see your comment as a troll, I generally agree with it. I personally think that jwz and ESR are better OSS advocates. Having been in "real world", I think they've got better feet to stand on.
OTOH, you gotta give props to RMS for his work founding the FSF and his contributions to it. How far along would be be w/o GCC?
Of course, GNU/Linux is a stretch -- I've never heard someone say they use Adobe/MacOS or Lotus-OS/2...
Did I ever say anything about the American flag being a symbol of something good? Does the Confederate flag have any symbolism other than anti-federalism for the purpose of maintaining slavery (and possibly making inbred marriages legal)? FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE.
I strongly disagree with "banning" anything, but there's only so much space with with to say anything when you've got a long URL to link to. A SYMBOL OF OPPRESSION SHOULD NOT BE FLOWN OVER EVERY COURTHOUSE IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA!
Jon Katz is the ultimate flamebait -- or is he a troll? I can't decide! If all Slashdot/Andover/VA cares about is page views, why don't CmdrTaco and Roblimo post nude photos of themselves? While they're at it, maybe they should be petrified, too -- we don't need them posting more JonKatz bullshit.
If all VA nee Andover nee Slashdot wants is more page views:
Why not post nude photos of Rob, Nate, and CowboyNeal?
Why not give an opinion column to the Ku Klux Klan?
Why not switch to Windows 2000 and promote its "superiority over Linux"?
I'M REALLY FUCKING PISSED OFF about this, and I'm just about sick of Slashdot. THIS IS BULLSHIT -- I checked the box to block stories from Katz, because I have NO INTEREST IN THIS JACKASS, but there he is... _twice_.
The AMD-750 chipset doesn't do SMP, and neither does Via's new KX133 chipset -- the chip itself is ready for multiprocessor configurations, but nobody's made it feasible yet, and don't expect it for a while.
I feel stupid for responding to a troll, but anyone defending the "stars and bars" is a certified jackass. I agree that the Confederate flag is a symbol of your heritage -- it's part of mine, too. I think it works out to something like 200 years of slavery./* begin sarcasm You're right, South Carolina *should* be proud, and the Germans are just wimps for regretting "that whole Holocaust thing"... end sarcasm */
The Register has had this story up for a while, too. You can read it by clicking here.
I wish people would stop bashing The Register -- I know a fake story when I see it, and they aren't very hard to spot. Usually, they get the scoop days before aggregators like/. get hold of it, and in the case of ZDNet, it's sometimes a week!
Uh, sorry for promoting another website, but I had to lay some asbestos because I usually get flamed for linking to The Register by people who don't get it.
USENET has a number of problems, starting with the picky nature of its users. While it can do HTML to present an opinion in rich text, it is frowned upon.
If you have a newbie/basic question for a newsgroup, there's a chicken and egg problem. If you have a basic question for alt.foo.foobar, how do you find the FAQ? You're stuck with the choice of two stupid threads: "Where's the FAQ?", or "My foobar is broken". The former is the best choice of course, but it kind of lessens the usefulness of a FAQ, because someone still has to reply, and hopefully they won't flame you with RTFM's, too. The latter is also likely to get you the link, though it may get you a few extra flames. While I haven't seen it implemented, the web interface can preemptively point someone in the right direction before they start a "junk" thread.
Forums based on Slash or UBB feel more like communities. If you're interested in the person who made such-and-such a comment, there's an easy way to find out who/what they are -- you just click the link to their user information, and if they want to share anything, they've put it into their forum profile directly or by a link.
Usenet is moving to the Web because the interface, content, and interactivity can be done better there.
No DVD, no sale -- and even if there was one, I'd be hesitant to get a copy of TPM before The Matrix and about a hundred other movies that I think were better, including episodes IV-VI.
Can an article be moderated as flamebait? We've been over all of this, and I'm sure that it will just be a matter of moments before the forum is ignited and flames about the lack of DVD (like myself), the evil MPAA and their handling of DeCSS, the supposed "boycott" of Amazon.com for their software patent, and of course, the beautiful Natalie Portman start flying...
Emulations. With the FreeBSD 4.0 most Linux programs run under the FreeBSD emulation system. The new Heros III runs fine under 4.0 and linux emulation. So does StarOffice 5.1 and vmware. All of this is way good.
I'm not trying to troll, but the recursive emulation part about BSD emulating Linux to run VMWare to emulate something else (Solaris?) struck me kind of funny...
I think the stations' primary gripe with that wider audience is that they don't get a ratings boost from it. They have no way of knowing that tens of thousands of people in Germany are getting their taste of "Verheiratet mit Kindern" in the original English "Married... with Children".
If iCrave was willing to share some of that blank space to those stations for advertising and/or provided (detailed?) viewer statistics, perhaps the broadcasters would cooperate and collaborate instead of fighting.
Mind you, this is just one point along the circle, but I hate it when long winded comments like mine get slightly larger.
According to CmdrTaco, the version number seems to keep falling. It's gone from 1.1.0 to 1.0.0, apparently in the time it takes to write two sentences.
I can't wait for better performance and stability at version 0.1.3-pre5! Open source software has such funny version numbering. I can't wait to see Emacs hit version number parity with the current year, either...
Viruses could happen in Linux just as easily as in Windows, if not more so. How hard would it be to embed a virus or trojan in freely modifiable and redistributable GPL code, then sneak it into a mirror? Big deal if most users can't install software -- it's not that hard to fool root, either.
You cheap ass Linux people think everything should be free, don't you? You commie bastards deserve to pay through the nose for Internet access.
Now that I've ensured a few -1's, I'l be serious for a moment...
I wouldn't feel so left out with their Windows-only support. There are a couple of "free" computing options out there. In one corner, you can get a free computer by locking yourself into a three year contract of paid dialup access. In the other, you can get a free dialup ISP of your choice by paying for the entire computer.
Either way, you have only two free beer choices -- skunky or skunkier. Financially, free Internet seems like the better option, because you'd recoup the $400 "rebate" in half the time of a three year, $22/mo. contract. OTOH, AOL and Compuserve aren't quite as annoying about advertising as NetZero and company, but you also get locked into a contract for an inferior service with poorly specified upgrade options to DSL, which they aren't doing (much of?) anything with, or AOL/Time Warner cable access.
Dialup sucks anyway. The only thing that would get me to go back to using dialup (spare necessity) would be ~$50/mo., so I could have a separate phone line and a Win9x dialup box so I could have a cool "@TheSimpsons.com" email address. It's likely that free Internet businesses are struggling to get revenues of $15 per head just to cover their costs, so I doubt that's ever going to happen.
Slashdot Mirror
After Yggdrasil, there was Slackware, then the Linux distribution market segmented into niches (Red Hat for servers, Caldera/Mandrake for workstations, Corel for desktops, SuSE for Europe, and Debian for GNU). There are plenty of shops that have used Linux for years (pre 2.0), so I know that there are production boxen that are still running Slackware instead of Red Hat.
I think Slackware is still relevant, and a great "hacker-ware" environment, and fills the needs of organizations that have used Linux years before these other distributions made their mark, but is there any particular market that Slackware is targeted to?
One valuable thing I can see from this is that Canvas is a somewhat major end user commmercial application entering a space that actually isn't covered too badly by free equivalents. I'd like to see how the free programs will stack up against it.
OTOH, you gotta give props to RMS for his work founding the FSF and his contributions to it. How far along would be be w/o GCC?
Of course, GNU/Linux is a stretch -- I've never heard someone say they use Adobe/MacOS or Lotus-OS/2...
Sure. I've done fixups for various apps running on the PPC (Macintosh) platform. Every single problem I have seen falls into one of two categories:
Umm, that's three -- very funny, though I maintain that the only good Endian is a dead Endian...
Did I ever say anything about the American flag being a symbol of something good? Does the Confederate flag have any symbolism other than anti-federalism for the purpose of maintaining slavery (and possibly making inbred marriages legal)? FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE.
Of course the Confederates couldn't hang on for that long -- they were too stupid for that.
They just happened to have enslaved my people for 200 years, and the flag is a symbol of everything leading up to that.
don't burn books, burn Nazis.
I strongly disagree with "banning" anything, but there's only so much space with with to say anything when you've got a long URL to link to. A SYMBOL OF OPPRESSION SHOULD NOT BE FLOWN OVER EVERY COURTHOUSE IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA!
Jon Katz is the ultimate flamebait -- or is he a troll? I can't decide! If all Slashdot/Andover/VA cares about is page views, why don't CmdrTaco and Roblimo post nude photos of themselves? While they're at it, maybe they should be petrified, too -- we don't need them posting more JonKatz bullshit.
Bye bye karma... bye bye, Slashdot.
Sign the petition:
GET THE FUCK OUT, JON KATZ:
If all VA nee Andover nee Slashdot wants is more page views:
Why not post nude photos of Rob, Nate, and CowboyNeal?
Why not give an opinion column to the Ku Klux Klan?
Why not switch to Windows 2000 and promote its "superiority over Linux"?
I'M REALLY FUCKING PISSED OFF about this, and I'm just about sick of Slashdot. THIS IS BULLSHIT -- I checked the box to block stories from Katz, because I have NO INTEREST IN THIS JACKASS, but there he is... _twice_.
Just when I thought I could avoid having to flame his commentary by excluding his articles in my preferences, here I go again.
YABLWJKE - Yet Another Boring Long Winded Jon Katz Essay...
The AMD-750 chipset doesn't do SMP, and neither does Via's new KX133 chipset -- the chip itself is ready for multiprocessor configurations, but nobody's made it feasible yet, and don't expect it for a while.
I feel stupid for responding to a troll, but anyone defending the "stars and bars" is a certified jackass. I agree that the Confederate flag is a symbol of your heritage -- it's part of mine, too. I think it works out to something like 200 years of slavery. /* begin sarcasm You're right, South Carolina *should* be proud, and the Germans are just wimps for regretting "that whole Holocaust thing"... end sarcasm */
It might help a little that Be users don't put up a big stink about binary-only releases.
Besides, RealPlayer final code is still sh!tty, so don't feel too bad...
I wish people would stop bashing The Register -- I know a fake story when I see it, and they aren't very hard to spot. Usually, they get the scoop days before aggregators like /. get hold of it, and in the case of ZDNet, it's sometimes a week!
Uh, sorry for promoting another website, but I had to lay some asbestos because I usually get flamed for linking to The Register by people who don't get it.
USENET has a number of problems, starting with the picky nature of its users. While it can do HTML to present an opinion in rich text, it is frowned upon.
If you have a newbie/basic question for a newsgroup, there's a chicken and egg problem. If you have a basic question for alt.foo.foobar, how do you find the FAQ? You're stuck with the choice of two stupid threads: "Where's the FAQ?", or "My foobar is broken". The former is the best choice of course, but it kind of lessens the usefulness of a FAQ, because someone still has to reply, and hopefully they won't flame you with RTFM's, too. The latter is also likely to get you the link, though it may get you a few extra flames. While I haven't seen it implemented, the web interface can preemptively point someone in the right direction before they start a "junk" thread.
Forums based on Slash or UBB feel more like communities. If you're interested in the person who made such-and-such a comment, there's an easy way to find out who/what they are -- you just click the link to their user information, and if they want to share anything, they've put it into their forum profile directly or by a link.
Usenet is moving to the Web because the interface, content, and interactivity can be done better there.
I suppose all the Linux, BeOS, and NT4 users are especially excited about the USB interface too, eh?
That was my post, and I think I proved a point. Weak minded people who do what their teachers and police officers tell them to do are the worst candidates for LSD use. You will question authority, and in an altered state of reality, you can actually look at yourself from an objective POV. I see that as a Good Thing©.
If you can't handle the notion that you were enculturated with beliefs that are wrong, don't use acid -- A closed mind cannot expand.
Yes, and all the good little Christian boys and girls should be using Jesux, remember?
Can an article be moderated as flamebait? We've been over all of this, and I'm sure that it will just be a matter of moments before the forum is ignited and flames about the lack of DVD (like myself), the evil MPAA and their handling of DeCSS, the supposed "boycott" of Amazon.com for their software patent, and of course, the beautiful Natalie Portman start flying...
I'm not trying to troll, but the recursive emulation part about BSD emulating Linux to run VMWare to emulate something else (Solaris?) struck me kind of funny...
I don't see how rebroadcasting anyone's local signal to a global audience is a Bad Thing©. The stations' "very very large" investment goes even farther for free. Most people at computers with broadband access to get a decent stream are (ahem) at work, and wouldn't be at a television otherwise, so this is simply expanding their audience.
I think the stations' primary gripe with that wider audience is that they don't get a ratings boost from it. They have no way of knowing that tens of thousands of people in Germany are getting their taste of "Verheiratet mit Kindern" in the original English "Married... with Children".
If iCrave was willing to share some of that blank space to those stations for advertising and/or provided (detailed?) viewer statistics, perhaps the broadcasters would cooperate and collaborate instead of fighting.
Mind you, this is just one point along the circle, but I hate it when long winded comments like mine get slightly larger.
According to CmdrTaco, the version number seems to keep falling. It's gone from 1.1.0 to 1.0.0, apparently in the time it takes to write two sentences.
I can't wait for better performance and stability at version 0.1.3-pre5! Open source software has such funny version numbering. I can't wait to see Emacs hit version number parity with the current year, either...
--
Now that I've ensured a few -1's, I'l be serious for a moment...
I wouldn't feel so left out with their Windows-only support. There are a couple of "free" computing options out there. In one corner, you can get a free computer by locking yourself into a three year contract of paid dialup access. In the other, you can get a free dialup ISP of your choice by paying for the entire computer.
Either way, you have only two free beer choices -- skunky or skunkier. Financially, free Internet seems like the better option, because you'd recoup the $400 "rebate" in half the time of a three year, $22/mo. contract. OTOH, AOL and Compuserve aren't quite as annoying about advertising as NetZero and company, but you also get locked into a contract for an inferior service with poorly specified upgrade options to DSL, which they aren't doing (much of?) anything with, or AOL/Time Warner cable access.
Dialup sucks anyway. The only thing that would get me to go back to using dialup (spare necessity) would be ~$50/mo., so I could have a separate phone line and a Win9x dialup box so I could have a cool "@TheSimpsons.com" email address. It's likely that free Internet businesses are struggling to get revenues of $15 per head just to cover their costs, so I doubt that's ever going to happen.
--