--Check the http://executivejewelers.com/mars/ site, they're going for $145 (Orient model) and up. They are apparently brand-name watches *adapted* to Mars time, instead of being hand-made from the ground up.
--I wouldn't buy one, but understand the reasons for having them made rather than doing what the article poster suggested: ("One wonders why these literal rocket scientists didn't just get a software programmable Linux or PalmOS based wrist-computer and hack together a Mars-time display application into it?")
o These are collectible items available only to NASA Mars project members (for now)
o The creation of these watches took a lot of skull-sweat on the manufacturer's part and is a great accomplishment for him
o It's a team-building device
o It's a Neat Hack(TM) - RTFA.
--That said, I wonder how these watches will hold up over time (pun intended.) IANAWatch Expert but somehow I doubt the length of a Martian second is the same as ours. A more accurate way of keeping time IMHO would be to keep the length of the second the same, and add 39 minutes worth per 24h: an "extended" 12h +19:30m watch face if you like, maybe with a colored "pie slice" for the extra time period - instead of losing seconds. FTA: ( "Past the glass cases of what looks like an ordinary jewelry store is a workshop where watches are losing 39 minutes a day." )
--But like I said, *I* don't have the skill to do this in the 1st place, and maybe he will do a rev.2 release for the general public.
Attention developers, effective immediately you are ordered to switch the firmware for our product to XINE sources, and compress with bzip2 instead of gzip. That is all.
>Take the comic book. The typical comic costs only around $2.95 in the US. The exact same comic costs $4.50 in Canada. 4.50 Canada Dollars = 3.55 United States Dollars
--Don't forget they're shipping that comic book farther, distance-wise.
--You are incorrect. I dual boot 98SE, and you have to know which "updates" will break the box. I haven't replaced the virtual machine, or downloaded the HD cache "fixes" because they will destroy the install.
> I've often said that the difference between country boys and city boys is the difference between bailing wire and duct tape... it takes epoxy to rise above those two and distinguish oneself as a geek.
--True UberGeeks use baling wire, Duck tape AND epoxy in the proper amounts to establish Redundancy!
(And then they pay the Duck to watch it for a while to make sure nothing breaks!) :b
--YOU try giving away all your "incentive" goodies for free, and see how long you can sustain a bizness. The whole point is to allow ppl to take it around the block for a test drive for free; if they like it and decide to pay for the upgrade, they get all the nice extras.
> I finally got tired of Mandrake problems, not just me but all the family and friends I support, and moved everyone to Suse.
--Similar experience here, altho it was so long ago I don't remember MDK being buggy. I just heard GoodThings(TM) about Suse, tried 6.4 and bought 7.3 DVD. Ran it until I couldn't live with the 2-gig filesize limitations, and migrated to Knoppix hdinstalled. Happy ever since.
--I'm something of a live-cd junkie tho; DL'ing MDK Move as well as the 9.x ISO's right now. I've tried Mepis as well and it's a good fit for some people.
> Minimum requirements for memory is 128M and they recommend 256M.
--IMHO that's a bit outrageous, even these days. Mepis still works with 64M of RAM, altho you have to press enter at a warning prompt. You just use an alt. WM like Icewm or something, and have plenty of swap.
--If $distro *requires* minimum 128MB of RAM they're not offering enough choices.
--That's the whole point - you don't *have* to pay for linux. They are letting you download for free if you want.
--But the whole point of having a MDK club and soliciting for donations is to help keep the company *running* - and if you donate, they provide extras. I don't even use MDK anymore, but I respect them for this. They're having a tough time just trying to stay alive.
--
(aside - your post above was enough to remove you from my Foes list. Best wishes.)
--Realplayer and Flashplayer and all the other proprietary stuff should be free? Gee, why don't you take away the reason for them to be in business entirely (making money, and helping their user base to leverage Linux by troubleshooting install and usage issues) and maybe the company will disappear for *real* this time?
--Fkg whiners. The economy is bad enough as it is.
--AFAICT, you don't actually *need* a USB key - you can use anything that gets detected as a scsi drive in linux (Zip drive, Compact Flash USB adapter, etc.)
Slashdot Mirror
--That's nothing, time actually went *backwards* ten steps for Hezekiah:
e =2 KGS+20:8-11&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on &showxref=on
http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passag
--I think it was Eddie Murphy that said:
" That ain't no Gucci! That's a GUCKY! "
--Check the http://executivejewelers.com/mars/ site, they're going for $145 (Orient model) and up. They are apparently brand-name watches *adapted* to Mars time, instead of being hand-made from the ground up.
--I wouldn't buy one, but understand the reasons for having them made rather than doing what the article poster suggested: ("One wonders why these literal rocket scientists didn't just get a software programmable Linux or PalmOS based wrist-computer and hack together a Mars-time display application into it?")
.2 release for the general public.
o These are collectible items available only to NASA Mars project members (for now)
o The creation of these watches took a lot of skull-sweat on the manufacturer's part and is a great accomplishment for him
o It's a team-building device
o It's a Neat Hack(TM) - RTFA.
--That said, I wonder how these watches will hold up over time (pun intended.) IANAWatch Expert but somehow I doubt the length of a Martian second is the same as ours. A more accurate way of keeping time IMHO would be to keep the length of the second the same, and add 39 minutes worth per 24h: an "extended" 12h +19:30m watch face if you like, maybe with a colored "pie slice" for the extra time period - instead of losing seconds. FTA: ( "Past the glass cases of what looks like an ordinary jewelry store is a workshop where watches are losing 39 minutes a day." )
--But like I said, *I* don't have the skill to do this in the 1st place, and maybe he will do a rev
Tomorrow's KISS internal memo:
Attention developers, effective immediately you are ordered to switch the firmware for our product to XINE sources, and compress with bzip2 instead of gzip. That is all.
END OF LINE
--Yeah! I hear he's gonna show up at their offices, spit blood all over the place and blow out the windows with Loud Music!
:b
> Deeper drilling, into the multi- kilometer range, might occur as part of a 2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist.
--Yeah RIGHT... Bruce Willis will lead the team, Steve Buscemi will go space-crazy, the drill bits will break after finding new densities of rock...
Canned Ham Achieves Spaceflight! George Bush eats Spam(tm)!
>Take the comic book. The typical comic costs only around $2.95 in the US. The exact same comic costs $4.50 in Canada. 4.50 Canada Dollars = 3.55 United States Dollars
--Don't forget they're shipping that comic book farther, distance-wise.
--You are incorrect. I dual boot 98SE, and you have to know which "updates" will break the box. I haven't replaced the virtual machine, or downloaded the HD cache "fixes" because they will destroy the install.
--As soon as I saw this article, I literally said "Yaaaay!" out loud -- and then immediately thought: "...And there was much rejoicing."
> I've often said that the difference between country boys and city boys is the difference between bailing wire and duct tape... it takes epoxy to rise above those two and distinguish oneself as a geek.
:b
--True UberGeeks use baling wire, Duck tape AND epoxy in the proper amounts to establish Redundancy!
(And then they pay the Duck to watch it for a while to make sure nothing breaks!)
--Pink (or is it purple?) color scheme??? WTF are they going to do, shoot a Buck Rogers sequel in there?
--YOU try giving away all your "incentive" goodies for free, and see how long you can sustain a bizness. The whole point is to allow ppl to take it around the block for a test drive for free; if they like it and decide to pay for the upgrade, they get all the nice extras.
--I think the Slax cd is supposed to be based on it, but don't quote me.
--Back in the day I was running Squid on either mdk or suse over 56K dialup. :) Serial modem of course.
> I finally got tired of Mandrake problems, not just me but all the family and friends I support, and moved everyone to Suse.
--Similar experience here, altho it was so long ago I don't remember MDK being buggy. I just heard GoodThings(TM) about Suse, tried 6.4 and bought 7.3 DVD. Ran it until I couldn't live with the 2-gig filesize limitations, and migrated to Knoppix hdinstalled. Happy ever since.
--I'm something of a live-cd junkie tho; DL'ing MDK Move as well as the 9.x ISO's right now. I've tried Mepis as well and it's a good fit for some people.
> Minimum requirements for memory is 128M and they recommend 256M.
--IMHO that's a bit outrageous, even these days. Mepis still works with 64M of RAM, altho you have to press enter at a warning prompt. You just use an alt. WM like Icewm or something, and have plenty of swap.
--If $distro *requires* minimum 128MB of RAM they're not offering enough choices.
me == too hasty, that should be ' vga=normal '
--I haven't remastered, but are you using the maximum compression available? (gzip defaults to -6, you have to specify -9 for max.)
--That's the whole point - you don't *have* to pay for linux. They are letting you download for free if you want.
--But the whole point of having a MDK club and soliciting for donations is to help keep the company *running* - and if you donate, they provide extras. I don't even use MDK anymore, but I respect them for this. They're having a tough time just trying to stay alive.
--
(aside - your post above was enough to remove you from my Foes list. Best wishes.)
--Realplayer and Flashplayer and all the other proprietary stuff should be free? Gee, why don't you take away the reason for them to be in business entirely (making money, and helping their user base to leverage Linux by troubleshooting install and usage issues) and maybe the company will disappear for *real* this time?
--Fkg whiners. The economy is bad enough as it is.
--You might have to pass a kernel parm, like ' vga=norma ' and mess around with which x-server to use. SVGA should work in 99% of the cases.
--AFAICT, you don't actually *need* a USB key - you can use anything that gets detected as a scsi drive in linux (Zip drive, Compact Flash USB adapter, etc.)
--However, I haven't tested this yet.
--All you need is a truck convoy to Redmond... "Here, I believe these are yours!" [/runs away]