But this is different. It is a cooperative mp3.com where you purchase the "CDs" temporarily for whatever price is agreed upon between the store and their customers. This means the sales tax can be kept to a minimum and it only requires software that is open and free. Its illegal to crack that software because of the DMCA so that software wouldn't need state of the art encryption or anything. I'm sure ROT13 would suffice. And the end user would be made fully aware of the legality of subversion before signing any contracts.;)
Why is abortion still an issue today? We agree with killing 3000 innocent people to bring "freedom" to several million and MONEY to several hundred million. Why would we care if they kill a few more innocent people to improve the quality of life for the living? Perhaps they can't support another baby. What if having that baby means another person dies and the baby lives a horrible life of starvation.
And what do we care? Us Americans, sitting in front of our TV sets eatting our fast food, worrying about some people we will never see on TV. Except only for those brief message hoping to bring christianity to the children and inform us that they exist. Society is truely sick. Psychotherapy recommended.
I made the mistake of getting some Alesis point seven studio monitors. The cheap ones. They cost significantly less than a comparable Bose bookshelf, but sound.. different.
Studio monitors reproduce a flat frequency response, in my case from about 80-120Hz~22kHz. So you hear exactly what is being played without any distortion. Some audio is distorted to make up for the loss of low bass and crisp clear high tones, mostly for old TV broadcasts because of the poor defaults speakers in the TV. But since home HiFi systems I imagine they don't distort modern sound tracks too much. The DVD bass experience is probably the main one, which I find most enjoyable.
Anyway occationally I notice some really bad tracks and have to cut the volume, which doesn't do much other than make it less annoying. 128kbps mp3 is horrible on these things.
Even though they show me the worst pops and clicks in the sound comparing them to Bose or almost anything else just makes me want to go look at more studio monitors. That and I play a few instruments which might require a slightly extended dynamic range than what your typical home stereo speakers provide. Though some cheap KLH loudspeakers caught my attention at one time. If only I knew how to play guitar.
Just the other day I went looking through the national archives and ran across some declassified documents from the Pentagon. Inside these documents our own government drew up plans and recommended that we attack our own citizens, such as destroy a national monument, etc. Just to get us to bomb Cuba in 1962. Luckily our president at the time was Kennedy who turned down the plan. But if Bush was the president at that time do you think he would have made the same decision?
I don't think so considerring he didn't win by the popular vote. He needed anything to distract us from the Florida vote count and a national emergency is an excellent distractiong. Don't you think?
But you can't force your fellow humans to love you. You can only treat them how you would like to be treated, or not. Its your choice.
Money disappears as soon as you recognize that each and every individual is worth more than all the money and property in the world. Their psyche, their mind, their soul is capable of creating all the things you value. But only when they are loved.
But how can I trust that my vote gets counted. How many votes were thrown out of the FLorida count because they were mailed in?
How can I trust that my vote gets counted in an eletronic system if its not based on open source software so I can read the code and determine that it is fair and just?
(not directed at the parent, but all Americans) I don't trust any of you anymore. The only thing you seem to care about is money. You would be perfectly happy with a voting system that doesn't count my vote as long as it counted yours. Which is why I don't vote.
This has nothing to do with ease of use. But I would put more faith into an electronic system than our postal system.
So because of our instincts to desire power and be greedy we won't even attempt to build a system based on logic and reason that just might expect a little more out of these lions you equate us with.
A few of us are vicous and evil. Which is why a system must be designed so "someone" can never be in charge. But most of us are honest, hard working, good people. And collectively we're stronger than the few that would prefer to rule over us.
Are you saying is costs more to manufacture a jaguar than a dodge or chevy? If everyone wants a jaguar build jaguars. Its just some wood, plastic, steel, rubber and various other materials put together by a very specific algorithm. That algorithm and can be built into a factory so very few humans need to do any work to make jaguars. So again you entirely missed my whole point about not having money or property not being worth any value. You can't break the common assumption that people are not equal. Is this because you're in your 30s?
Artificial scarcity. There you go.. See, there's really enough for everyone, only some of us own more property than we'll ever use or ever need, while some could be completely content owning a fraction of what you do. Love is giving without expecting anything in return. I love humans enough to make an attempt at constructing this type of society. I'm guessing you do not. And that, my friend, is the problem.
Because honestly even capitalism and money are a perfectly good society if the people within that society care about eachother. But when anyone could be a terrorist what incentive, what economic insentive does anyone have to love or care or give? See the problems inherent in our society and our nature? We must be educated to overcome these problems, they won't magicly go away because some of us have money.
There were at least 2 school shootings within the last two weeks here in America. Just thought I might add something to give people a little perspective into how American society and capitalism without love or community causes severe social problems that will only get worse. What I recommend is to take our culture and society back from the government and corporations that have chosen to control us.
Oh, also, this communism society I'm talking about needs to have a webpage or something where everyone in the society tells everyone else what they want, so society knows what factories it needs to build and how many jobs it needs to have filled. These can be posted on a public website as well so everyone can browse through the jobs close to them and pick and choose what they want to do from a queue instead of being forced to work to eat.
So it is partially dependent on the people understand that the system only works through cooperation and participation. But it will work with a large enough population of honorable people who believe in their country. However, it won't work with a bunch of uneducated greedy cowards.
Maybe I have too much faith in human nature to be good and just.
As far as the rest of your comment goes, I have to say that you contradict yourself. It isn't possible to have property and not have money.
So what you're saying is I can't own a CD without having money?
Little history lesson for you. There was a time when there was no money.
Thanks for the history lesson. I'll have to remember that.
Once upon a time there was this race of humans. At first they were really dumb. They couldn't even make a wheel. But quickly they learned. Eventually they met up with a genius from some Catholic high school who knew everything. He taught them how to build machines and started something known as the industrial revolution. Now these really dumb people didn't know they stumbled upon. They had never heard of a revolution before. And soon after that the genius taught them how to build computers. And another revolution came about, known as the computer revolution.
Why are computers a revolution? Because of automated industry.
When you base money off the work people do then money is equal to physical labor or mental labor or sometimes social status with execs. When you build a factory to build your products you create an automated industry that, after the initial costs of building the factory, only costs the energy to run it and the resources to create those products. The factory and the automated industry can be refined, modularized, and made environmentally friendly when you put enough thought behind its design. In other words if all factories are designed in the open with many many additional engineers lending their imput it should be possible to build modular factories that are easy to build, maintain and retool, etc.
That's the economics of communism as I see. We're limited only by the resources available in the universe. And that, I'm sorry to say, is more than enough for EVERYONE.
I would argue that you can own some things in a communist system because its not likely your roommate is going to take your toothbrush whenever they want. Respect and morals and ethics and laws are still required in any society. I'm not talking about anarchy yet, just communism. People also must be educated for a society like this to function. They must be taught that for society to function they need to be creative and do something that they're interested in as a career at some point in their lives.
Owning a toothbrush and owning a car are two entirely different things. A car could be shared and easily replaced. A toothbrush is far more personal.
I think most people would love to have access to a shared car lot with thousands of really nice cars that are always properly maintained than owning an old broken down wreck that ends up right next to all the others in your front yard.
Being selfish doesn't help anyone.
See, that's exactly it. The elite should not exist in communism. Everyone is EQUAL. What's wrong with you people? Why can't you understand a very simple idea? That everyone can be equal without money. With money they have something to hold over your head, a status symbol that means they are worth more than you, they are above you. Without that and with the proper rules everyone gets an equal share of the profits and the economics of trickle down theory never need to be brought up again.
And who needs to fight a cold war against capitalism or anything else? If you're communist, just take care of your people. Use the concepts of capitalism such as competition and a media and school system designed to make people want to work and think creatively. But don't fight cold wars, have elite leaders that pretend they're maintaining a communist society when they're really just interested in the same level of control as the capitalists.
Society must be free. And we're not ready for it because we're not educated. That's the only thing holding us back. We've got the technology.
Yeah, I'd like to carry this on in email, but I commented as I read through your post. I'll email next time.
Did you ever see the place crash into the pentagon? Did you see pieces of it?
The whole time I was watching all this happen I never thought it could have been possible for the pentagon to have never been attacked by an airplane. But now that I think back about it. I never once saw anything resembling an airplane or any video showing an airplane smash into the pentagon. The damage done to the pentagon was very similar to a bomb, the grass in front of it was undamaged and only the first floor was really damaged, the rest just collapsed.
I don't want an investigation that exposes the "truth". I want to know the truth. I also want to know why we spent more money investigating the shuttle than we did the World Trade Center. Is it more important to us to know what happens in a car crash than a national disaster? That's the way it looks to me. Americans like you are prefectly satisfied that some brown people flew our planes into our own buildings without any motive. So we bomb them in relatiation and revenge and kill twice as many brown people. They may not have been the same brown people and most of them may have been innocent, but at least we got our revenge! Right? Is that how you feel?
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If RMS is such a nutjob why did he write the GPL? The GPL is what gives Linus the freedom to make this choice. If RMS is such an idealist why didn't he write a different GPL that forces everything to be open, free and non-DRM like you claim.
Stallman is not a nutjob. I think all these people are far more rational that you or I.
That's why I don't agree with the term most people use to refer to communism. Communism in my mind is a system built around the people. People in this system don't use money and nobody owns a significant amount of property more than anyone else. Not that people can't own property, but in a communist society, one that is not based on money, there should never be any concerns about money or property. Everyone should be given everything they need and it would be societies duty to see to it that the system provides for everyone.
But I guess it'll take a few more world wars, several millions of innocent deaths and a lot of dotcomcrashes before people start really questioning the value of that almighty dollar.
Oh, and thanks so much for your last comment. That makes me feel so good. No, really. Thanks.
Hell go look for 9/11, norad, conspiracy, whatever in google and you'll find a dozen websites talking about the same things, asking the same questions. I'm not stating an opinion here.. Something is seriously wrong with the way the WTC was investigated and I think these investigations are certainly related to the shuttle disaster.
I mean why is it that we make the shuttle a front page report, along with Iraq, for months and months while the 9/11 attack was only front page long enough to get support to attack Afghanistan?
Since i don't moderate would anyone else mind moderating my parent post up to something readable? If you think its relevant at all..
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if Apple can sell aac files then this should be legal.. but may require the agreement of those RIAA affiliates.
But this is different. It is a cooperative mp3.com where you purchase the "CDs" temporarily for whatever price is agreed upon between the store and their customers. This means the sales tax can be kept to a minimum and it only requires software that is open and free. Its illegal to crack that software because of the DMCA so that software wouldn't need state of the art encryption or anything. I'm sure ROT13 would suffice. And the end user would be made fully aware of the legality of subversion before signing any contracts. ;)
Oh, but don't forget the MPAA tax coming soon to a theatre near you. Everyone is going to want their piece of the pie.
me too :)
So I take it a malitia protecting its home town would be considered spies. That's rather convenient, don't you think?
Why is abortion still an issue today? We agree with killing 3000 innocent people to bring "freedom" to several million and MONEY to several hundred million. Why would we care if they kill a few more innocent people to improve the quality of life for the living? Perhaps they can't support another baby. What if having that baby means another person dies and the baby lives a horrible life of starvation.
And what do we care? Us Americans, sitting in front of our TV sets eatting our fast food, worrying about some people we will never see on TV. Except only for those brief message hoping to bring christianity to the children and inform us that they exist. Society is truely sick. Psychotherapy recommended.
the right to own property.
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That's all you had to say.
Arg. This stuff makes my blood boil.
Mine too..
I made the mistake of getting some Alesis point seven studio monitors. The cheap ones. They cost significantly less than a comparable Bose bookshelf, but sound.. different.
Studio monitors reproduce a flat frequency response, in my case from about 80-120Hz~22kHz. So you hear exactly what is being played without any distortion. Some audio is distorted to make up for the loss of low bass and crisp clear high tones, mostly for old TV broadcasts because of the poor defaults speakers in the TV. But since home HiFi systems I imagine they don't distort modern sound tracks too much. The DVD bass experience is probably the main one, which I find most enjoyable.
Anyway occationally I notice some really bad tracks and have to cut the volume, which doesn't do much other than make it less annoying. 128kbps mp3 is horrible on these things.
Even though they show me the worst pops and clicks in the sound comparing them to Bose or almost anything else just makes me want to go look at more studio monitors. That and I play a few instruments which might require a slightly extended dynamic range than what your typical home stereo speakers provide. Though some cheap KLH loudspeakers caught my attention at one time. If only I knew how to play guitar.
OMFG!
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I just love your sig!!!
Just the other day I went looking through the national archives and ran across some declassified documents from the Pentagon. Inside these documents our own government drew up plans and recommended that we attack our own citizens, such as destroy a national monument, etc. Just to get us to bomb Cuba in 1962. Luckily our president at the time was Kennedy who turned down the plan. But if Bush was the president at that time do you think he would have made the same decision?
I don't think so considerring he didn't win by the popular vote. He needed anything to distract us from the Florida vote count and a national emergency is an excellent distractiong. Don't you think?
Its all so coincidental.
That... and whomever develops a working "warp drive" will probably have to be a Star Trek geek...
And get sued by Paramount for violating their trademarks.
from the corporations..
Haha
*shakes head* *rolls eyes*
Do you think they'll ever "get it"?
Computers were designed to share information.. or at least that's what I thought they were for anyway.
Man, the last time that happened to me I lost EVERYTHING. So now I only use tape.
But you can't force your fellow humans to love you. You can only treat them how you would like to be treated, or not. Its your choice.
Money disappears as soon as you recognize that each and every individual is worth more than all the money and property in the world. Their psyche, their mind, their soul is capable of creating all the things you value. But only when they are loved.
But how can I trust that my vote gets counted. How many votes were thrown out of the FLorida count because they were mailed in?
How can I trust that my vote gets counted in an eletronic system if its not based on open source software so I can read the code and determine that it is fair and just?
(not directed at the parent, but all Americans) I don't trust any of you anymore. The only thing you seem to care about is money. You would be perfectly happy with a voting system that doesn't count my vote as long as it counted yours. Which is why I don't vote.
This has nothing to do with ease of use. But I would put more faith into an electronic system than our postal system.
So because of our instincts to desire power and be greedy we won't even attempt to build a system based on logic and reason that just might expect a little more out of these lions you equate us with.
A few of us are vicous and evil. Which is why a system must be designed so "someone" can never be in charge. But most of us are honest, hard working, good people. And collectively we're stronger than the few that would prefer to rule over us.
Are you saying is costs more to manufacture a jaguar than a dodge or chevy? If everyone wants a jaguar build jaguars. Its just some wood, plastic, steel, rubber and various other materials put together by a very specific algorithm. That algorithm and can be built into a factory so very few humans need to do any work to make jaguars. So again you entirely missed my whole point about not having money or property not being worth any value. You can't break the common assumption that people are not equal. Is this because you're in your 30s?
Artificial scarcity. There you go.. See, there's really enough for everyone, only some of us own more property than we'll ever use or ever need, while some could be completely content owning a fraction of what you do. Love is giving without expecting anything in return. I love humans enough to make an attempt at constructing this type of society. I'm guessing you do not. And that, my friend, is the problem.
Because honestly even capitalism and money are a perfectly good society if the people within that society care about eachother. But when anyone could be a terrorist what incentive, what economic insentive does anyone have to love or care or give? See the problems inherent in our society and our nature? We must be educated to overcome these problems, they won't magicly go away because some of us have money.
There were at least 2 school shootings within the last two weeks here in America. Just thought I might add something to give people a little perspective into how American society and capitalism without love or community causes severe social problems that will only get worse. What I recommend is to take our culture and society back from the government and corporations that have chosen to control us.
Oh, also, this communism society I'm talking about needs to have a webpage or something where everyone in the society tells everyone else what they want, so society knows what factories it needs to build and how many jobs it needs to have filled. These can be posted on a public website as well so everyone can browse through the jobs close to them and pick and choose what they want to do from a queue instead of being forced to work to eat.
So it is partially dependent on the people understand that the system only works through cooperation and participation. But it will work with a large enough population of honorable people who believe in their country. However, it won't work with a bunch of uneducated greedy cowards.
Maybe I have too much faith in human nature to be good and just.
As far as the rest of your comment goes, I have to say that you contradict yourself. It isn't possible to have property and not have money.
So what you're saying is I can't own a CD without having money?
Little history lesson for you. There was a time when there was no money.
Thanks for the history lesson. I'll have to remember that.
Once upon a time there was this race of humans. At first they were really dumb. They couldn't even make a wheel. But quickly they learned. Eventually they met up with a genius from some Catholic high school who knew everything. He taught them how to build machines and started something known as the industrial revolution. Now these really dumb people didn't know they stumbled upon. They had never heard of a revolution before. And soon after that the genius taught them how to build computers. And another revolution came about, known as the computer revolution.
Why are computers a revolution? Because of automated industry.
When you base money off the work people do then money is equal to physical labor or mental labor or sometimes social status with execs. When you build a factory to build your products you create an automated industry that, after the initial costs of building the factory, only costs the energy to run it and the resources to create those products. The factory and the automated industry can be refined, modularized, and made environmentally friendly when you put enough thought behind its design. In other words if all factories are designed in the open with many many additional engineers lending their imput it should be possible to build modular factories that are easy to build, maintain and retool, etc.
That's the economics of communism as I see. We're limited only by the resources available in the universe. And that, I'm sorry to say, is more than enough for EVERYONE.
I would argue that you can own some things in a communist system because its not likely your roommate is going to take your toothbrush whenever they want. Respect and morals and ethics and laws are still required in any society. I'm not talking about anarchy yet, just communism. People also must be educated for a society like this to function. They must be taught that for society to function they need to be creative and do something that they're interested in as a career at some point in their lives.
Owning a toothbrush and owning a car are two entirely different things. A car could be shared and easily replaced. A toothbrush is far more personal.
I think most people would love to have access to a shared car lot with thousands of really nice cars that are always properly maintained than owning an old broken down wreck that ends up right next to all the others in your front yard.
Being selfish doesn't help anyone.
See, that's exactly it. The elite should not exist in communism. Everyone is EQUAL. What's wrong with you people? Why can't you understand a very simple idea? That everyone can be equal without money. With money they have something to hold over your head, a status symbol that means they are worth more than you, they are above you. Without that and with the proper rules everyone gets an equal share of the profits and the economics of trickle down theory never need to be brought up again.
And who needs to fight a cold war against capitalism or anything else? If you're communist, just take care of your people. Use the concepts of capitalism such as competition and a media and school system designed to make people want to work and think creatively. But don't fight cold wars, have elite leaders that pretend they're maintaining a communist society when they're really just interested in the same level of control as the capitalists.
Society must be free. And we're not ready for it because we're not educated. That's the only thing holding us back. We've got the technology.
Yeah, I'd like to carry this on in email, but I commented as I read through your post. I'll email next time.
Did you ever see the place crash into the pentagon? Did you see pieces of it?
The whole time I was watching all this happen I never thought it could have been possible for the pentagon to have never been attacked by an airplane. But now that I think back about it. I never once saw anything resembling an airplane or any video showing an airplane smash into the pentagon. The damage done to the pentagon was very similar to a bomb, the grass in front of it was undamaged and only the first floor was really damaged, the rest just collapsed.
I don't want an investigation that exposes the "truth". I want to know the truth. I also want to know why we spent more money investigating the shuttle than we did the World Trade Center. Is it more important to us to know what happens in a car crash than a national disaster? That's the way it looks to me. Americans like you are prefectly satisfied that some brown people flew our planes into our own buildings without any motive. So we bomb them in relatiation and revenge and kill twice as many brown people. They may not have been the same brown people and most of them may have been innocent, but at least we got our revenge! Right? Is that how you feel?
If RMS is such a nutjob why did he write the GPL? The GPL is what gives Linus the freedom to make this choice. If RMS is such an idealist why didn't he write a different GPL that forces everything to be open, free and non-DRM like you claim.
Stallman is not a nutjob. I think all these people are far more rational that you or I.
That's why I don't agree with the term most people use to refer to communism. Communism in my mind is a system built around the people. People in this system don't use money and nobody owns a significant amount of property more than anyone else. Not that people can't own property, but in a communist society, one that is not based on money, there should never be any concerns about money or property. Everyone should be given everything they need and it would be societies duty to see to it that the system provides for everyone.
But I guess it'll take a few more world wars, several millions of innocent deaths and a lot of dotcomcrashes before people start really questioning the value of that almighty dollar.
Oh, and thanks so much for your last comment. That makes me feel so good. No, really. Thanks.
Troll?
What about this?
Hell go look for 9/11, norad, conspiracy, whatever in google and you'll find a dozen websites talking about the same things, asking the same questions. I'm not stating an opinion here.. Something is seriously wrong with the way the WTC was investigated and I think these investigations are certainly related to the shuttle disaster.
I mean why is it that we make the shuttle a front page report, along with Iraq, for months and months while the 9/11 attack was only front page long enough to get support to attack Afghanistan?
Since i don't moderate would anyone else mind moderating my parent post up to something readable? If you think its relevant at all..
I think it was pretty obvious what brought them down.
Really?
You were saying?