In the case at hand, SCO initially approached IBM about this diplomatically. However, in the end we came to an impasse. More than three decades and billions of dollars have gone into developing UNIX, and SCO has a responsibility to protect that investment for the benefit of every customer, developer, reseller, shareholder, employee and partner. Thus it has become necessary to protect this highly valuable asset through the legal system.
Isn't it obvious that UNIX today is so valuable that Linux and any OSS competitor must pay licenses and royalties to SCO even though GNU/Linux is NOT UNIX.
I think SCO's board is just sad because they lied to their investors about the value of UNIX.
And these are the execs responsible for their recent childish actions:
Darl C. McBride - President, CEO Robert K. Bench - CFO Sean Wilson - SVP Corp Jeff Hunsaker - SVP Sales / Marketting Chris Sontag - SVP GM SCOsource division Opinder Bawa - SVP Engineering, Global Services Reg Broughton - SVP Worldwide Ops
All of them stupid white men except Opinder Bawa, which I suspect doesn't have much to do with this. But I don't know all the details, so please comment and fill in anything I'm missing or correct me where I'm wrong.:)
If only we cared to know this level of detail about the 3000 deaths caused by the WTC and Pentagon attacks.
It amazes me how shocked and horrified a nation of idiots gets over a handful of people who die while on an extremely dangerous mission. We all know the dangers of space exploration. Like the other posters are saying... get over it. We MUST explore. It is our nature.
First let's figure out what is REALLY going on.
Then let's make sure we stop thinking about money long enough to prevent anything like this ever happening again. Think humanitarian. Think locks on the doors of commercial airliners. Think wings that don't require seals that can fall off. Think!
I was just thinking the other day where would we be without the net. Right now I have access to answers to almost any questions on google, which is always available when I'm at work or home or over at a friend's house. Everyone I know has an email address or IM or some account somewhere on the net.
Soon I will use the net for all communications, including audio, video and text. It has become as essential to everyone's every day lives as the telephone or TV. Which is very similar to AOLTW's and most corporation's mission statement, replacing internet with the company name of your choice.
But no matter how much has been changed because of the net we can never forget that those changes happened because of open communication, open protocols, free intellectual property, free access, and the hard work of many many extremely skilled engineers. I don't think the internet could be rebuilt today in the US under our current administration or their preference for security over freedom.
The internet is based entirely on freedom and could not exist without everyone agreeing to maintain that freedom. The freedom to send a packet around the world for $0.00. The freedom to say what you want without fear of prosecution, etc. Those freedoms might not exist forever. And then what will become of the internet as we know it or as it could be used tomorrow?
American Capitalist Perspective: The net was only useful for commercialism. But then all those dotcoms crashed. So does that mean the net is worthless?
MPAA/RIAA Rep: No, the net is a tool for terrorists and pirates to steal your IP and must be monitorred, enforced and secured. It is a dangerous place.
Tech: The net can be used for voting and education and automation and software development and music and video and games and... if we just got rid of money we have the technology to make it all work for us, instead of the other way around.. Hello.. anybody listening?
Because Tivo will never let you save a local copy of a TV show, edit out the commercials and reencode it to MPEG4 for permanent storage. Time shifting is legal. What I just described is legal. But Tivo will never let you do it. Why? Ask them..
I'm their customer and I think they should be giving me the products I want, not the products the movie or music industry would prefer me having.
Remember what happened with DAT? I sure do. And I hate it! The MPAA and RIAA deserve ALL the piracy they get!
I am satisfied with what is commercially available for Linux. I would and do buy all the Linux games I see on the store shelves, as well as any new additions to the GTA series. But I don't care if companies don't want to sell me stuff.
That's perfectly fine with me. I got plenty of new free stuff to keep me busy for a long long time.
I'm rather ignorant about these things. But I'm real curious. What was it lik ein Russia before the "collapse" Did they use money? Was there a sense of community? And how has it changed over the years? Do they use money now?
I think that whenever money comes into the picture the form of society has become capitalist. But maybe I'm wrong. Communism, in my mind, can function almost like capitalism just without the money and inefficiency caused by commercialism, monopolies, world-class corporations, WTO, etc.
You can read one of my favorite articles on this topic here.
Interesting, deoxy.org seems to be down so that's the cached google copy.
I think all surveillance logs should be made public. Afterall, there really is nothing to hide, right?
I think all government communications should be made public, all emails, documents, voice communications in Congress or the Senate, specially for voice votes, etc. In fact we should never have a voice vote again, since controvercial laws like the DMCA always seem to get passed this way. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. If we really want to make this a fair police state, that is.
Then again, unfair police states are the common type around here.
If they can't afford the bandwidth maybe they shouldn't be publishing bendmarks and advertising with them to make money. A different business model would be in order, don't you think?
I agree with you, but I'm still playing devils advocate here:)
Windows standard edition alone can not do what you're talking about. You have to have their professional edition with SQL, Excel, etc. This is several hundreds of dollars in additional software on top of an expensive "professional" version so you have a chance at getting stability. You wouldn't dare attempt to manage important data on a home version of a Microsoft OS. When your standard RedHat 9 download includes EVERYTHING you need and is often more stable than the professional versions of Windows.
That's the difference in quality and capability I think we are attempting to argue. Not that the NT kernel is inferior or incapable of performing the task, just that all the tools and the right kernel are not included by default. When you buy a professional version of Linux you get a kernel designed to scale up to at least 16p, not additional stability.
GNU systems are designed for data processing. What you are talking about is playing games, which is exactly what the average home version of Windows was designed for. So I don't understand your comments. Aren't we talking about data processing?
GNU refers to all GPLed software. More than enough to build a pure GNU OS, I believe.
Maybe they put it in a whole separate section so only those readers geeky enough would keep it on their front page. That's the cool thing about a completely personalized slashdot experience and separate categories for things like The Matrix and anime, it allows non-fans to avoid it.
I enjoy The Matrix and anime because they make me think. They are entertainment as well as provocative revolutionary subjects that force most viewers to question the founding principals behind their society and government.
I enjoy reading and watching subversive media. Don't you? Or would you prefer CNN?
all the tools you mention are available natively for Windows
Yes, but are they built-in?
GNU just works out-of-the-box. Windows, UNIX and any other commercial solution just seems to miss the whole point of having a computer. Processing data. Which is why they forget to include a spreadsheet and a database and a compiler and scripting languages and various other tools that are a requirement for this data processing we all love to do so much.
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Exactly, reading this makes me want to go buy another copy of GTA3. I already have GTA3:VC for my PS2 but I gave my dad my original copy for the PC. So not only would I get to support one of the best game companies in existence I get to check out multi player canage. But does it show all the peds in multiplayer? Can you watch other people run over innocent peds randomly? That would be entertaining even in spectator mode.
Imagine sitting at a bus stop somewhere in Vice City just watching the chaos that passes by. Hell, I'd want that for a screensaver.
Okay, since you're obviously so brilliant, then explain to me the difference between something like this and VNC, X11, ssh and the nature of OSS software. I have konqueror on my Z. Its not a plugin or some remotely displayed app. Its the code taken from konqueror on my desktop and streamlined for the Z. So I'm sure I'll have open office and koffice and all my other favorite desktop apps on my Z within the next few years. Plus I get scriptability and automation so I never have to sync my system, it syncs itself whenver its within range.
And oggs kick ass over anything commercial, closed source or DRM enhanced. OGM is also the best video file format. I might suggest you start converting your collections now before the day comes when nobody has a wma player around.
So.. go buy a pocket PC. What I'm saying is I have all the functionality you're talking about in this article on my Z. I'm not some lazy moron who's unwilling to cope with a little misconvenience. I converted my music collection to ogg 2 years ago and bought the Z because it ran Linux and was the only portable ogg player. Who uses their Z to take notes anyway? I still use a pen and paper. Best tool for the job, eh?
Its not as stable, secure, open, etc. This is just a commercial solution for a problem solved by the community with hardware and software developed years ago. Here
If it weren't for the playstation 2 and all those countless hours of enjoyment I recieve from it every night I might suspect Sony of being an Evil Media Company.
the other 6 dimensions of our universes shrank down to 1/100,000,000,000ths the size of a proton, or was it an electron, I forget.
Anyway all that big TOE stuff proved once and for all that time travel and folding space was possible when we developed the electromagnetic technology to rip open a wormhole into those really small dimensions.
Didn't they try that with the Philadelphia experiment?
Yeah, if these CPUs are going to be producing 4 times the amount of heat why not recycle it? Throw all your processors next to the hot water heater and put in nice cool running fanless chips at like 1 Ghz in all your thin client systems and use high speed wireless nets everywhere.
The future might be an interesting place. We have extra energy we don't know what to do with coming off our CPUs and with solar, wind and sea power we should be able to generate enough clean electricity to run the thing. Now if only we could figure out how to make environmentally friendly CPUs. Heh, but I think we'll give up before then.
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but I'll quote this from SCO's website anyway:
:)
In the case at hand, SCO initially approached IBM about this diplomatically. However, in the end we came to an impasse. More than three decades and billions of dollars have gone into developing UNIX, and SCO has a responsibility to protect that investment for the benefit of every customer, developer, reseller, shareholder, employee and partner. Thus it has become necessary to protect this highly valuable asset through the legal system.
Isn't it obvious that UNIX today is so valuable that Linux and any OSS competitor must pay licenses and royalties to SCO even though GNU/Linux is NOT UNIX.
I think SCO's board is just sad because they lied to their investors about the value of UNIX.
And these are the execs responsible for their recent childish actions:
Darl C. McBride - President, CEO
Robert K. Bench - CFO
Sean Wilson - SVP Corp
Jeff Hunsaker - SVP Sales / Marketting
Chris Sontag - SVP GM SCOsource division
Opinder Bawa - SVP Engineering, Global Services
Reg Broughton - SVP Worldwide Ops
All of them stupid white men except Opinder Bawa, which I suspect doesn't have much to do with this. But I don't know all the details, so please comment and fill in anything I'm missing or correct me where I'm wrong.
If only we cared to know this level of detail about the 3000 deaths caused by the WTC and Pentagon attacks.
It amazes me how shocked and horrified a nation of idiots gets over a handful of people who die while on an extremely dangerous mission. We all know the dangers of space exploration. Like the other posters are saying... get over it. We MUST explore. It is our nature.
First let's figure out what is REALLY going on.
Then let's make sure we stop thinking about money long enough to prevent anything like this ever happening again. Think humanitarian. Think locks on the doors of commercial airliners. Think wings that don't require seals that can fall off. Think!
Fuk!
Me too.
I was just thinking the other day where would we be without the net. Right now I have access to answers to almost any questions on google, which is always available when I'm at work or home or over at a friend's house. Everyone I know has an email address or IM or some account somewhere on the net.
Soon I will use the net for all communications, including audio, video and text. It has become as essential to everyone's every day lives as the telephone or TV. Which is very similar to AOLTW's and most corporation's mission statement, replacing internet with the company name of your choice.
But no matter how much has been changed because of the net we can never forget that those changes happened because of open communication, open protocols, free intellectual property, free access, and the hard work of many many extremely skilled engineers. I don't think the internet could be rebuilt today in the US under our current administration or their preference for security over freedom.
The internet is based entirely on freedom and could not exist without everyone agreeing to maintain that freedom. The freedom to send a packet around the world for $0.00. The freedom to say what you want without fear of prosecution, etc. Those freedoms might not exist forever. And then what will become of the internet as we know it or as it could be used tomorrow?
American Capitalist Perspective: The net was only useful for commercialism. But then all those dotcoms crashed. So does that mean the net is worthless?
MPAA/RIAA Rep: No, the net is a tool for terrorists and pirates to steal your IP and must be monitorred, enforced and secured. It is a dangerous place.
Tech: The net can be used for voting and education and automation and software development and music and video and games and... if we just got rid of money we have the technology to make it all work for us, instead of the other way around.. Hello.. anybody listening?
Because Tivo will never let you save a local copy of a TV show, edit out the commercials and reencode it to MPEG4 for permanent storage. Time shifting is legal. What I just described is legal. But Tivo will never let you do it. Why? Ask them..
I'm their customer and I think they should be giving me the products I want, not the products the movie or music industry would prefer me having.
Remember what happened with DAT? I sure do. And I hate it! The MPAA and RIAA deserve ALL the piracy they get!
I am satisfied with what is commercially available for Linux. I would and do buy all the Linux games I see on the store shelves, as well as any new additions to the GTA series. But I don't care if companies don't want to sell me stuff.
That's perfectly fine with me. I got plenty of new free stuff to keep me busy for a long long time.
But aren't they capitalist now?
I'm rather ignorant about these things. But I'm real curious. What was it lik ein Russia before the "collapse" Did they use money? Was there a sense of community? And how has it changed over the years? Do they use money now?
I think that whenever money comes into the picture the form of society has become capitalist. But maybe I'm wrong. Communism, in my mind, can function almost like capitalism just without the money and inefficiency caused by commercialism, monopolies, world-class corporations, WTO, etc.
You can read one of my favorite articles on this topic here.
Interesting, deoxy.org seems to be down so that's the cached google copy.
I think all surveillance logs should be made public. Afterall, there really is nothing to hide, right?
I think all government communications should be made public, all emails, documents, voice communications in Congress or the Senate, specially for voice votes, etc. In fact we should never have a voice vote again, since controvercial laws like the DMCA always seem to get passed this way. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. If we really want to make this a fair police state, that is.
Then again, unfair police states are the common type around here.
If they can't afford the bandwidth maybe they shouldn't be publishing bendmarks and advertising with them to make money. A different business model would be in order, don't you think?
Maybe he lives in a communist country. You know, one that has a community..
I agree with you, but I'm still playing devils advocate here :)
Windows standard edition alone can not do what you're talking about. You have to have their professional edition with SQL, Excel, etc. This is several hundreds of dollars in additional software on top of an expensive "professional" version so you have a chance at getting stability. You wouldn't dare attempt to manage important data on a home version of a Microsoft OS. When your standard RedHat 9 download includes EVERYTHING you need and is often more stable than the professional versions of Windows.
That's the difference in quality and capability I think we are attempting to argue. Not that the NT kernel is inferior or incapable of performing the task, just that all the tools and the right kernel are not included by default. When you buy a professional version of Linux you get a kernel designed to scale up to at least 16p, not additional stability.
GNU systems are designed for data processing. What you are talking about is playing games, which is exactly what the average home version of Windows was designed for. So I don't understand your comments. Aren't we talking about data processing?
GNU refers to all GPLed software. More than enough to build a pure GNU OS, I believe.
Maybe they put it in a whole separate section so only those readers geeky enough would keep it on their front page. That's the cool thing about a completely personalized slashdot experience and separate categories for things like The Matrix and anime, it allows non-fans to avoid it.
I enjoy The Matrix and anime because they make me think. They are entertainment as well as provocative revolutionary subjects that force most viewers to question the founding principals behind their society and government.
I enjoy reading and watching subversive media. Don't you? Or would you prefer CNN?
all the tools you mention are available natively for Windows
Yes, but are they built-in?
GNU just works out-of-the-box. Windows, UNIX and any other commercial solution just seems to miss the whole point of having a computer. Processing data. Which is why they forget to include a spreadsheet and a database and a compiler and scripting languages and various other tools that are a requirement for this data processing we all love to do so much.
Exactly, reading this makes me want to go buy another copy of GTA3. I already have GTA3:VC for my PS2 but I gave my dad my original copy for the PC. So not only would I get to support one of the best game companies in existence I get to check out multi player canage. But does it show all the peds in multiplayer? Can you watch other people run over innocent peds randomly? That would be entertaining even in spectator mode.
Imagine sitting at a bus stop somewhere in Vice City just watching the chaos that passes by. Hell, I'd want that for a screensaver.
Well, if there's a plug in for Outlook Express (which I know everyone here uses)
Hahaha ROTFL
On second thought I think this is the perfect solution for you.
Quantity not Quality should be the capitalist moto.
Okay, since you're obviously so brilliant, then explain to me the difference between something like this and VNC, X11, ssh and the nature of OSS software. I have konqueror on my Z. Its not a plugin or some remotely displayed app. Its the code taken from konqueror on my desktop and streamlined for the Z. So I'm sure I'll have open office and koffice and all my other favorite desktop apps on my Z within the next few years. Plus I get scriptability and automation so I never have to sync my system, it syncs itself whenver its within range.
And oggs kick ass over anything commercial, closed source or DRM enhanced. OGM is also the best video file format. I might suggest you start converting your collections now before the day comes when nobody has a wma player around.
Cheers
Norad just decided to take a vacation that day..
So.. go buy a pocket PC. What I'm saying is I have all the functionality you're talking about in this article on my Z. I'm not some lazy moron who's unwilling to cope with a little misconvenience. I converted my music collection to ogg 2 years ago and bought the Z because it ran Linux and was the only portable ogg player. Who uses their Z to take notes anyway? I still use a pen and paper. Best tool for the job, eh?
Who here is going to obey this law if it ever gets passed?
;)
Heh, yeah, me neither.
Um, NAT does provide some security. Unless you want to explain how you're going to get your packet past my NAT without me initiating the connection.
Its not as stable, secure, open, etc. This is just a commercial solution for a problem solved by the community with hardware and software developed years ago. Here
If it weren't for the playstation 2 and all those countless hours of enjoyment I recieve from it every night I might suspect Sony of being an Evil Media Company.
the other 6 dimensions of our universes shrank down to 1/100,000,000,000ths the size of a proton, or was it an electron, I forget.
Anyway all that big TOE stuff proved once and for all that time travel and folding space was possible when we developed the electromagnetic technology to rip open a wormhole into those really small dimensions.
Didn't they try that with the Philadelphia experiment?
Yeah, if these CPUs are going to be producing 4 times the amount of heat why not recycle it? Throw all your processors next to the hot water heater and put in nice cool running fanless chips at like 1 Ghz in all your thin client systems and use high speed wireless nets everywhere.
The future might be an interesting place. We have extra energy we don't know what to do with coming off our CPUs and with solar, wind and sea power we should be able to generate enough clean electricity to run the thing. Now if only we could figure out how to make environmentally friendly CPUs. Heh, but I think we'll give up before then.