This isn't my battle but it's interesting. Where is MrHanky's evidence that you're wrong? What is he typing on? Get make & model and it can be correlated with factory and facts. I doubt he'll supply it because he really doesn't want to chance learning how wrong he is.
Otherwise, I suggest you have a better stance in this pissing contest. Anything made by Apple has been falling under heavy scrutiny for a long time, mostly because Apple keeps more places busier than anyone else, and it sells news. All of the manufacturing is done by third parties without any obligation to follow U.S. labor laws. That goes for whatever he's typing on as well. I'd venture to guess that factories with increased scrutiny are in better shape (labor wise) than factories which escape that scrutiny, like the factory which made MrHanky's equipment.
Theory: China had a huge head start when Britain's lease on Hong Kong expired and it was turned back to the Chinese. It was already an enormous manufacturing and economic hub, very much unlike most of the rest of China. The Chinese government wisely created an expanded special economic zone there, giving assurances to existing business so they wouldn't leave and enlarging the zone around Hong Kong. The Chinese understood what they had and fostered its growth rather than stamping it out over some Communist idealism. This is the region where you'll find much of China's current manufacturing might. Couple that with the fact that they have millions of workers, plus the Asian culture generally fosters intelligent thinking and respect for authority. China also began allowing individuals to prosper in their own right around that time, a very un-communist concept which unlocked the perfect storm of what they had at their disposal.
About the intelligent Asian comment... I was around in the '70s when we had an enormous influx of Vietnamese coming to the US with absolutely nothing. They were willing to take nearly any job and I saw them starting businesses left and right. Their working habits were brutal and relentless. Within a few years, they were driving Volvos and living in nice houses. A few years after that, their kids were part of a statistic where a disproportionate amount of the University enrollments were Asian kids. Contrast that to some of our indigenous population who had nothing and had no concept of achieving anything, all the while complaining that they never had a chance.
I still think you're Verizon's customer (or Sprint or AT&T or [insert_carrier]). The Google software comes with the phone, installed by the carrier which makes you a user of Google's software but not their customer.
The carriers are Google's customers directly. Google doesn't care about you as a customer, otherwise you'd be able to get updates on your device directly from Google. You're not receiving anything from Google directly. Google gives Android to the carriers and they receive billions of nano-pennies as the consumer uses the phone, getting ad revenue and tracking customers to their own favored advertisers and service providers.
Android is installed at the pleasure of the carrier to serve their own purpose, namely running a phone customizable to what the carriers want you to see and what they can get paid for. Gradient to Google, you're just a consumer. The big surprise is the carriers haven't returned to the time when they could sell the pictures you took with your phone back to you for 25 cents apiece. Remember the days when they disabled OBEX on their flip phones so they could prevent access to photos and ringtones?
That's proper wording. The device will no longer be protected from you!
You aren't the customer, either. You are in fact the consumer. Google's advertisers are their customers and you and your data are what's for sale to them. The conduit for Google scraping your data is no longer protected if you jailbreak.
I'll postulate that "speed to market" is accurate. It took several years of Microsoft sitting on their ass, basking in the glory of XP, threatening some futuristic Longhorn bullshit to keep competitors scared and corporations comfortable, thinking "that'll show them" before they realized the competition was still coming at them. Then, after a long vacation, they cobbled together all the superficial veneer they could copy from other OSs (just the sizzle off the steak), added some bullshit to make it look like your computer liked you and hurriedly released it with missing features and half of everything broken. They quickly threw it together in a panic. That's speed to market.
I agree that essentially milking a product with little actual improvement will lead to problems, although it's done Microsoft very well for decades. It helps to have an entrenched monopoly to pull that off. The switch to Intel created more opportunity for the Mac platform than less, so overall that was a win. I don't think anyone should be releasing products that aren't ready, as you singled out OS X which was nearly unusable until about 10.2.
However, Apple had less to lose by gutting their entire hardware and software platform and starting over. Apple also created some very smooth pathways through the migration; 68k code emulation on PPC, Classic environment on OS X, Carbon, Rosetta and a few others. They did the right thing for the long run.
The area where Apple excelled was the iPod and they avoided exactly what you warn against. They released upgrade after upgrade plus several variants for many years in the face of essentially no competition. They captured huge market share, massive brand loyalty and the most illusive variable; trust. Trust was the missing element in all of Microsoft's dalliance with music players. They never had traction and the lack of trust was already spreading to just about every other aspect of Microsoft's business. True to everyone's expectations, Microsoft fucked it all up when they released the Zune and that was the end.
... which is why Asian companies kick the American's asses. Long range thinking in the US is having a 5 year plan. In Japan, they have 100 year plans [and a dozen other links].
Should be, but when strange things like that happen (copy small files and get lockups), I'd still suspect hard drive health. If you can duplicate (command-D) or copy a file like that internal to the machine, it sort of lets the drive off the hook. Otherwise, that's a behavior pattern of drive failure - start copying a file and everything seizes. You'd usually have booting problems too. I have several Western Digital drives here that came out of Macs that all did exactly that. Swapped them for Seagates and they run like a rocket ship. Worth looking into.
You're doing something wrong, then. Out of about 30 Macs doing heavyweight video program editing, we push about 40TB a week through them over the network. They're MUCH faster than our Windows servers and don't lock up. Might want to change your brand of hard drive.
"I want to express my deepest condolences at the passing of Steve Jobs, one of the founders of our industry and a true visionary. My heart goes out to his family, everyone at Apple and everyone who has been touched by his work." — Steve Ballmer
Point taken... the flip side being nobody else had the vision to launch a slim and capable MP3 player even though all the parts were already sitting there. Buying up all the production runs did more to aid Apple's bottom line. If it also disrupted competition, well, that's their problem. Apple came out of a long period of their competition not feeling sorry for it and they figured out how to beat it.
Sun did some amazing things, so did a lot of other companies and individuals. The thing Steve Jobs did is make off the shelf technology useful. Ever try to make some random person care about ZFS or Solaris? They couldn't care less. But a music player that held 1,000 songs at high quality and didn't skip when you jogged with it was an innovation. Nobody had put that together like that before. For the next five years, they kept improving the function and form factor of the iPod by orders of magnitude in the face of almost no competition. Anyone can call it "nothing new was invented here" and it wasn't - but nobody ever put so much thought into the product, using slimmer, lightweight materials, menu layouts that made sense without an instruction manual, battery life that mattered and a hundred other things completely absent from anything made by a "competitor". It cost more to make than the other crap but it was worth it, so I wouldn't call it "overpriced". Ok, so maybe I'd want it to be a lot cheaper... but it worked well and I got way more value out of my iPods than any other music player (and I've had a few).
That brings me to the "stifle competition" statement. Believe it if you like, but I view it as Apple selling something people actually wanted instead of the junkyard class crap getting shoveled out by everyone else. Making something that made anything else on the market look 10 years behind isn't "stifling" competition - it's embarrassing the competitors right out of the market.
Just ran out and looked at it today. Jeez - its the size of a school bus. Half of it is returnable film capsules the size of a Volkswagen [Beetle]. The underside looks like a gas furnace, which may well be a gigantic bellows camera.
Authentication: Hijacked machines - or even normal machines - shouldn't have authority to send email from some random claimed domain or plain IP address. There have been some good attempts to solve these issues (SPF records, Sender ID, DomainKeys/DKIM, FCrDNS (forward-confirmed reverse DNS)), but there aren't enough universal safeguards to make them work. Since this is a huge hole for criminals to exploit, we as an IT management community need to tighten that up. That includes testing each message for compliance and blacklisting all non-compliant sources.
I know... here we go with RBL's again, but we have to clean this shit up.
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This isn't my battle but it's interesting. Where is MrHanky's evidence that you're wrong? What is he typing on? Get make & model and it can be correlated with factory and facts. I doubt he'll supply it because he really doesn't want to chance learning how wrong he is.
Otherwise, I suggest you have a better stance in this pissing contest. Anything made by Apple has been falling under heavy scrutiny for a long time, mostly because Apple keeps more places busier than anyone else, and it sells news. All of the manufacturing is done by third parties without any obligation to follow U.S. labor laws. That goes for whatever he's typing on as well. I'd venture to guess that factories with increased scrutiny are in better shape (labor wise) than factories which escape that scrutiny, like the factory which made MrHanky's equipment.
Theory: China had a huge head start when Britain's lease on Hong Kong expired and it was turned back to the Chinese. It was already an enormous manufacturing and economic hub, very much unlike most of the rest of China. The Chinese government wisely created an expanded special economic zone there, giving assurances to existing business so they wouldn't leave and enlarging the zone around Hong Kong. The Chinese understood what they had and fostered its growth rather than stamping it out over some Communist idealism. This is the region where you'll find much of China's current manufacturing might. Couple that with the fact that they have millions of workers, plus the Asian culture generally fosters intelligent thinking and respect for authority. China also began allowing individuals to prosper in their own right around that time, a very un-communist concept which unlocked the perfect storm of what they had at their disposal.
About the intelligent Asian comment... I was around in the '70s when we had an enormous influx of Vietnamese coming to the US with absolutely nothing. They were willing to take nearly any job and I saw them starting businesses left and right. Their working habits were brutal and relentless. Within a few years, they were driving Volvos and living in nice houses. A few years after that, their kids were part of a statistic where a disproportionate amount of the University enrollments were Asian kids. Contrast that to some of our indigenous population who had nothing and had no concept of achieving anything, all the while complaining that they never had a chance.
Just a theory.
All my HP servers have Foxconn labels on them here and there. I've seen a lot of other non-Apple equipment with Foxconn labels as well.
I still think you're Verizon's customer (or Sprint or AT&T or [insert_carrier]). The Google software comes with the phone, installed by the carrier which makes you a user of Google's software but not their customer.
The carriers are Google's customers directly. Google doesn't care about you as a customer, otherwise you'd be able to get updates on your device directly from Google. You're not receiving anything from Google directly. Google gives Android to the carriers and they receive billions of nano-pennies as the consumer uses the phone, getting ad revenue and tracking customers to their own favored advertisers and service providers.
Android is installed at the pleasure of the carrier to serve their own purpose, namely running a phone customizable to what the carriers want you to see and what they can get paid for. Gradient to Google, you're just a consumer. The big surprise is the carriers haven't returned to the time when they could sell the pictures you took with your phone back to you for 25 cents apiece. Remember the days when they disabled OBEX on their flip phones so they could prevent access to photos and ringtones?
That's what I think, anyway.
That's proper wording. The device will no longer be protected from you!
You aren't the customer, either. You are in fact the consumer. Google's advertisers are their customers and you and your data are what's for sale to them. The conduit for Google scraping your data is no longer protected if you jailbreak.
I'm not shilling for anyone but can see different companies doing different things better than others and just state my honest opinions about them
You're definitely new here.
It's time for a car reference.
I'll postulate that "speed to market" is accurate. It took several years of Microsoft sitting on their ass, basking in the glory of XP, threatening some futuristic Longhorn bullshit to keep competitors scared and corporations comfortable, thinking "that'll show them" before they realized the competition was still coming at them. Then, after a long vacation, they cobbled together all the superficial veneer they could copy from other OSs (just the sizzle off the steak), added some bullshit to make it look like your computer liked you and hurriedly released it with missing features and half of everything broken. They quickly threw it together in a panic. That's speed to market.
They're over there checking it out, aren't they?
I agree that essentially milking a product with little actual improvement will lead to problems, although it's done Microsoft very well for decades. It helps to have an entrenched monopoly to pull that off. The switch to Intel created more opportunity for the Mac platform than less, so overall that was a win. I don't think anyone should be releasing products that aren't ready, as you singled out OS X which was nearly unusable until about 10.2.
However, Apple had less to lose by gutting their entire hardware and software platform and starting over. Apple also created some very smooth pathways through the migration; 68k code emulation on PPC, Classic environment on OS X, Carbon, Rosetta and a few others. They did the right thing for the long run.
The area where Apple excelled was the iPod and they avoided exactly what you warn against. They released upgrade after upgrade plus several variants for many years in the face of essentially no competition. They captured huge market share, massive brand loyalty and the most illusive variable; trust. Trust was the missing element in all of Microsoft's dalliance with music players. They never had traction and the lack of trust was already spreading to just about every other aspect of Microsoft's business. True to everyone's expectations, Microsoft fucked it all up when they released the Zune and that was the end.
... which is why Asian companies kick the American's asses. Long range thinking in the US is having a 5 year plan. In Japan, they have 100 year plans [and a dozen other links].
It's the most misunderstood thing in business - do good work, make the customers happy, create good value and profit becomes a side effect.
The only reason Xerox got into computers is because IBM started making copiers. (I worked for Xerox in the early '80s)
You'd have a point except Apple's desktop (rows of icons) predated Windows 95 by about 10 years.
The original thoughts Microsoft had more than 10 years ago... uh, got me there.
Microsoft bought Kinect from PrimeSense, an Israeli company.
Next?
Spitting distance? Isn't that "squirting distance"?
It's hard to believe Microsoft would be so willing to show this direct comparison - revealing they haven't had an original thought in ten years.
Should be, but when strange things like that happen (copy small files and get lockups), I'd still suspect hard drive health. If you can duplicate (command-D) or copy a file like that internal to the machine, it sort of lets the drive off the hook. Otherwise, that's a behavior pattern of drive failure - start copying a file and everything seizes. You'd usually have booting problems too. I have several Western Digital drives here that came out of Macs that all did exactly that. Swapped them for Seagates and they run like a rocket ship. Worth looking into.
You're doing something wrong, then. Out of about 30 Macs doing heavyweight video program editing, we push about 40TB a week through them over the network. They're MUCH faster than our Windows servers and don't lock up. Might want to change your brand of hard drive.
Nah, Ballmer's got more class than that.
I believe you're right, jcr.
"I want to express my deepest condolences at the passing of Steve Jobs, one of the founders of our industry and a true visionary. My heart goes out to his family, everyone at Apple and everyone who has been touched by his work."
— Steve Ballmer
Point taken... the flip side being nobody else had the vision to launch a slim and capable MP3 player even though all the parts were already sitting there. Buying up all the production runs did more to aid Apple's bottom line. If it also disrupted competition, well, that's their problem. Apple came out of a long period of their competition not feeling sorry for it and they figured out how to beat it.
Sun did some amazing things, so did a lot of other companies and individuals. The thing Steve Jobs did is make off the shelf technology useful. Ever try to make some random person care about ZFS or Solaris? They couldn't care less. But a music player that held 1,000 songs at high quality and didn't skip when you jogged with it was an innovation. Nobody had put that together like that before. For the next five years, they kept improving the function and form factor of the iPod by orders of magnitude in the face of almost no competition. Anyone can call it "nothing new was invented here" and it wasn't - but nobody ever put so much thought into the product, using slimmer, lightweight materials, menu layouts that made sense without an instruction manual, battery life that mattered and a hundred other things completely absent from anything made by a "competitor". It cost more to make than the other crap but it was worth it, so I wouldn't call it "overpriced". Ok, so maybe I'd want it to be a lot cheaper... but it worked well and I got way more value out of my iPods than any other music player (and I've had a few).
That brings me to the "stifle competition" statement. Believe it if you like, but I view it as Apple selling something people actually wanted instead of the junkyard class crap getting shoveled out by everyone else. Making something that made anything else on the market look 10 years behind isn't "stifling" competition - it's embarrassing the competitors right out of the market.
My $0.02
Ballmer? Is that you?
Just ran out and looked at it today. Jeez - its the size of a school bus. Half of it is returnable film capsules the size of a Volkswagen [Beetle]. The underside looks like a gas furnace, which may well be a gigantic bellows camera.
Authentication: Hijacked machines - or even normal machines - shouldn't have authority to send email from some random claimed domain or plain IP address. There have been some good attempts to solve these issues (SPF records, Sender ID, DomainKeys/DKIM, FCrDNS (forward-confirmed reverse DNS)), but there aren't enough universal safeguards to make them work. Since this is a huge hole for criminals to exploit, we as an IT management community need to tighten that up. That includes testing each message for compliance and blacklisting all non-compliant sources.
I know... here we go with RBL's again, but we have to clean this shit up.