Seriously, I'd be interested to discover who your friends are, as I am getting a conflicting message from Novell. In fact, just this week I was having a conversation with a Novell Engineer that was excited beyond reason that he had a change to an OSS project that was accepted. Suddenly, from a company of engineers that had problems even thinking about using a different tool, I hear of mass conversions to Bugzilla, Apache and SuSE.
From what I can tell, the concept of Open Source or Free Software isn't what fascinates these fellows, but an actual desire to be part of the community. It's a foreign idea to them, but now that they've been exposed, it's a good feeling. I, for one, welcome our long-lost proprietary brethren. If they figure out a way to make money while doing it, good for them.
And if they need a little help understanding the GPL along the way, I'm sure we'd all be happy to oblige them;-)
THE MONOPOLY ON MUSIC pays a few po? writers to go screwy trying to write and rewrite the same old notes under the same old formulas and the same old patterns. The songs have no guts. They sound sissified, timid, the spinning dreams of a bunch of neurotic screwballs. How can they be otherwise when they have no connection with the work and the fight of the whole human race? They are bad. They are hurtful, poisonous, complascent, distracting, full of jerky headaches and jangled nerves. I have seen soldiers and sailors on ships sail these insane records over into the water by the dozens. I have heard fighting men in war zones scream and demand that the gibbery radio be shut off or it would be smashed.
Why did I think of Brittney Spears the entire time I read that paragraph?
OK, like much of the Slashdot readership, I had a really difficult time getting past the first sentence. I'm happily reading the latest in geek rants about catheterization when suddenly I'm struck with a comment the references bodice-ripping.
As much as I appreciate the comment, please, no more, or my wife will regret me coming home from work.
I certainly see this as SCO telling the world, "Hey, lookie here, we do sell software. Wanna buy some?". But if they really wanted to say, "We screwed up," they could do it by dropping the lawsuits, attempting to clear up their contract mess by (gasp) clarifying the contracts with those they contracted with and finally having Darl McBribe thrown out on his pasty white a....
Then we might believe they have changed their ways back to a respectable software outfit. No product release anouncement will make it otherwise.
The following assumption is based on the only two things I find useful about the YaST program, the system installer and the package managment capabilities.
From the point-of-view of a package manager, open-sourcing YaST makes perfect sense for Novell. At this time, Novell has two package managers, YaST and Red Carpet. YaST is a simple "go get the RPM and install/uninstall" program, simple as in very little administrative control. Red Carpet, on the other hand, lets a service charge for maintaining RPMs, making users pay for a subscription. So, from Novell's point-of-view, making someone pay money trumps free any day, especially with competing, internal products.
Open-sourcing the second thing YaST is good at, the system installer, is just a side effect. In fact, I would expect to see Red Carpet become much more prevalent as a package manager in the future and see YaST fall behind (unless it "aquires" a really agressive set of OSS engineers).
My views do not reflect those of my employer, just the feelings of another SuSE user in the world.
The thing that amazes me is I've had this laptop running over two weeks since the last reboot! OK, so I close the silly thing and let it hibernate, but then I pop it open and I have a three-second startup time! The system uptime on "top" showed 15 days, 20 hours. I've never had this luxury with my laptop when using the 2.4 kernel, ever!
Heh, producing infringing code is not a difficult thing for SCO to do. Watch:
wget http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4. 24.tar.bz2 tar -xvjf linux-2.4.24.tar.bz2 cp -a linux-2.4.24 UnixWare-1.0 cat "/* Copyright (c) 1991-2004 Darl McBride and The SCO Group */" > myLicense cd linux-2.4.24 for i in `find . -type f -iname "*.[c|h]"`;do echo 1 0wn3rz $i;cat../myLicense $i >../UnixWare-1.0/$i;done;
q.e.d. Took me about ten minutes. I'm sure Darl's got even more powerful machines.
Not that I would ever corrupt The Sacred Source! God forbid! That would be e-vile!
As a resident of Spanish Fork, Utah, I have already been getting cable Internet service for over a year now. Up to that point, I had been bugging AT&T and Qwest to get either cable or DSL to my house, to no avail. As soon as the city of Spanish Fork got the cable installed to my house, I cancelled all the other services and stuck with the city.
There are some minor problems. Technically, the staff of the city network need to gain a little experience. But overall, it has been a pleasant experience and I recommend it to everyone else.
It's about time the rest of the state catches up to us. Heck, we're just a little ol' cowboy town that barely knows how to find the 'on' button for our com-poot-urs.
Sure, you can have your MaqQuest (wonder how they're handling the Slashdotting?) but for the ultimate geek map you need to go to Microsoft Terraserver. Yeah, it's a bit US-centric. Sure, the driving direction interface sucks (i.e. doesn't exists) but it makes for great shots like
Well, I can think of a few reasons a Linux system is more desirable.
GNU/Linux tends to be a challenge that script-kiddies who describe systems as 'boxen' find too difficult and end up targeting pre-scripted Windows vulnerabilities.
Due mostly to the already-described difficulty, those who target GNU/Linux are usually also able to provide a fix (and are usually responsible enough to do so).
There's a certain level of prestige among those that are willing to find and fix vulnerabilities within GNU/Linux. At least, prestige among people who matter in the industry.
Of course, these are personal opinions. I'm sure those who find satisfaction downloading and compiling the lastest Microsoft RPC exploit have plenty of respect as an 3733t h4x0r among their community.
The thing I find facsinating about all this global warming hoo-ha is that people are upset by it. I don't understand why all the long faces. This is just further proof that everything is working just the way it's suppose to! Let me explain...
Our planet Earth is wonderously like our own human body. Consider when you get some sort of virus (the biological kind. Please, stay with me). Your muscles begin to ache, telling your brain to take it easy and let the body fix itself. One of the most important mechanisms the body has to destroy foreign bodies is to increase the body temperature. That increase stresses the cells in your body, but also stresses the icky viruses currently causing you grief, helping destroy them.
If you're smart and listen to the doctor, you'll also start drinking lots of fluids. The helps your body remove the carnage of this biological war from your system, along with replacing necessary fluids that are being lost much more rapidly than normal. All that extra fluid is very important to a faster recovery.
Now think of the Earth. It's been infested with an organism out of control. This organism thinks it knows best and has been attempting to change the environment for the last couple of days (relative to the planets grand timetable, of course). Well, it's gotten bad enough that the Earth has developed a fever. This fever may be bad enough that it kills off a little of the good organisms, but at least the job of clean out the virii is working. If the Earth is wise, it will start taking in lots of fluids, but where is the Earth going to get it's drink of water? Fortunate for the Earth, it has prepared well in advance and stored up lots of water in the form of icecaps. Fever start, icecaps melt, fluids wash away the icky virus. Voila! The Earth feels better and can continue on it's way doing what it does best, making life.
We shouldn't feel sad for the Earth, we should be happy that this wonderful, crazy cycle of nature is working just like it should. Perhaps the next set of organisms will be more compatible, eh?
Oh, I know, we need to save our own hide. Personally I don't have lots of hope for human nature. We're growing too fast for the planet to sustain us. But (again, relative to the grand planetary timetable) I'll only be here another couple of seconds before I replicate and disappear, what do I need to worry about?
Assembly Language! Hah! We were lucky if we were given 15 minutes to divine the hexadecimal opcodes for the 6502 instruction set before we were expected to write our own multiplayer FPS!
Aw, for the love of Mike, these poor people are going through chemotherapy! If anyone deserves a break, it's those patients.
Perhaps we should get some money together to get 'em a cab ride home. Heck, let's do one better, get 'em a limo ride home. As I remember the limos were cheaper, anyway.
Right now is a good time to be nice to those afflicted with radioactive treatments, 'cuz you might be next.
If you can manage to get the close-up of the sunspots, concider the big one roughly in the middle. If the tickmarks are correct, it is roughly 12,000 x 16,000 km.
In fact, I feel it would be a Good Thing(tm) for our friendly Slashdot host to stick the link to this project into their Quick Link section on the main page.
Of course, I've already bookmarked the page, but that's on one machine. What happens six months down the line when I need to rebuild my bookmarks? Search for the article on Slashdot? Ick.
Whoda thunk you could fix it?
Seriously, I'd be interested to discover who your friends are, as I am getting a conflicting message from Novell. In fact, just this week I was having a conversation with a Novell Engineer that was excited beyond reason that he had a change to an OSS project that was accepted. Suddenly, from a company of engineers that had problems even thinking about using a different tool, I hear of mass conversions to Bugzilla, Apache and SuSE.
From what I can tell, the concept of Open Source or Free Software isn't what fascinates these fellows, but an actual desire to be part of the community. It's a foreign idea to them, but now that they've been exposed, it's a good feeling. I, for one, welcome our long-lost proprietary brethren. If they figure out a way to make money while doing it, good for them.
And if they need a little help understanding the GPL along the way, I'm sure we'd all be happy to oblige them ;-)
OK, like much of the Slashdot readership, I had a really difficult time getting past the first sentence. I'm happily reading the latest in geek rants about catheterization when suddenly I'm struck with a comment the references bodice-ripping.
As much as I appreciate the comment, please, no more, or my wife will regret me coming home from work.
Then we might believe they have changed their ways back to a respectable software outfit. No product release anouncement will make it otherwise.
I dunno, my guess would be ... Halo?
You are always welcome to propose, but none of us will really care.
The following assumption is based on the only two things I find useful about the YaST program, the system installer and the package managment capabilities.
From the point-of-view of a package manager, open-sourcing YaST makes perfect sense for Novell. At this time, Novell has two package managers, YaST and Red Carpet. YaST is a simple "go get the RPM and install/uninstall" program, simple as in very little administrative control. Red Carpet, on the other hand, lets a service charge for maintaining RPMs, making users pay for a subscription. So, from Novell's point-of-view, making someone pay money trumps free any day, especially with competing, internal products.
Open-sourcing the second thing YaST is good at, the system installer, is just a side effect. In fact, I would expect to see Red Carpet become much more prevalent as a package manager in the future and see YaST fall behind (unless it "aquires" a really agressive set of OSS engineers).
My views do not reflect those of my employer, just the feelings of another SuSE user in the world.
Ahh, you must be using Gentoo. I feel for you. Really, I do.
apt-get update
apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686
update-grub
Reboot. Works.
The thing that amazes me is I've had this laptop running over two weeks since the last reboot! OK, so I close the silly thing and let it hibernate, but then I pop it open and I have a three-second startup time! The system uptime on "top" showed 15 days, 20 hours. I've never had this luxury with my laptop when using the 2.4 kernel, ever!
If there are, I didn't see them. All I did was:
apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.2-1-686
update-grub
Two lines on the command line and a reboot and I've been happy ever since.
Oh, wait, we're talking outside Debian. Nevermind.
Heh, producing infringing code is not a difficult thing for SCO to do. Watch:
. 24.tar.bz2 ../myLicense $i > ../UnixWare-1.0/$i;done;
wget http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4
tar -xvjf linux-2.4.24.tar.bz2
cp -a linux-2.4.24 UnixWare-1.0
cat "/* Copyright (c) 1991-2004 Darl McBride and The SCO Group */" > myLicense
cd linux-2.4.24
for i in `find . -type f -iname "*.[c|h]"`;do echo 1 0wn3rz $i;cat
q.e.d. Took me about ten minutes. I'm sure Darl's got even more powerful machines.
Not that I would ever corrupt The Sacred Source! God forbid! That would be e-vile!
Don't complain to me, I paid my US$10.00. Unfortunately, my tax advisor tells me, regardless what I donate, the IRS still wants my soul on toast.
Commi troll...
There are some minor problems. Technically, the staff of the city network need to gain a little experience. But overall, it has been a pleasant experience and I recommend it to everyone else.
It's about time the rest of the state catches up to us. Heck, we're just a little ol' cowboy town that barely knows how to find the 'on' button for our com-poot-urs.
An anthropologist comes up to an Indian, and asks him what did the Indians call America before the whites came, and the Indian replies, "Ours."
- Vine Deloria, Native Activist
- Disneyland
- Cape Canaveral and
- even places that don't officially exist
If nothing else, it's a great tool to boost the paranoia level of your friends and family.Well, I can think of a few reasons a Linux system is more desirable.
- GNU/Linux tends to be a challenge that script-kiddies who describe systems as 'boxen' find too difficult and end up targeting pre-scripted Windows vulnerabilities.
- Due mostly to the already-described difficulty, those who target GNU/Linux are usually also able to provide a fix (and are usually responsible enough to do so).
- There's a certain level of prestige among those that are willing to find and fix vulnerabilities within GNU/Linux. At least, prestige among people who matter in the industry.
Of course, these are personal opinions. I'm sure those who find satisfaction downloading and compiling the lastest Microsoft RPC exploit have plenty of respect as an 3733t h4x0r among their community.Our planet Earth is wonderously like our own human body. Consider when you get some sort of virus (the biological kind. Please, stay with me). Your muscles begin to ache, telling your brain to take it easy and let the body fix itself. One of the most important mechanisms the body has to destroy foreign bodies is to increase the body temperature. That increase stresses the cells in your body, but also stresses the icky viruses currently causing you grief, helping destroy them.
If you're smart and listen to the doctor, you'll also start drinking lots of fluids. The helps your body remove the carnage of this biological war from your system, along with replacing necessary fluids that are being lost much more rapidly than normal. All that extra fluid is very important to a faster recovery.
Now think of the Earth. It's been infested with an organism out of control. This organism thinks it knows best and has been attempting to change the environment for the last couple of days (relative to the planets grand timetable, of course). Well, it's gotten bad enough that the Earth has developed a fever. This fever may be bad enough that it kills off a little of the good organisms, but at least the job of clean out the virii is working. If the Earth is wise, it will start taking in lots of fluids, but where is the Earth going to get it's drink of water? Fortunate for the Earth, it has prepared well in advance and stored up lots of water in the form of icecaps. Fever start, icecaps melt, fluids wash away the icky virus. Voila! The Earth feels better and can continue on it's way doing what it does best, making life.
We shouldn't feel sad for the Earth, we should be happy that this wonderful, crazy cycle of nature is working just like it should. Perhaps the next set of organisms will be more compatible, eh?
Oh, I know, we need to save our own hide. Personally I don't have lots of hope for human nature. We're growing too fast for the planet to sustain us. But (again, relative to the grand planetary timetable) I'll only be here another couple of seconds before I replicate and disappear, what do I need to worry about?
Assembly Language! Hah! We were lucky if we were given 15 minutes to divine the hexadecimal opcodes for the 6502 instruction set before we were expected to write our own multiplayer FPS!
Not if the students want to learn anything...
I mean, where's the struggle with one of those iBooks? Heckm they're so easy to use even the most non-technical person can be productive.
No, what they need are cheap, noname-brand laptops with Gentoo Linux! Heck, even Gentoo makes it too easy. Make 'em to LFS!
That'll teach 'em!
Hey, perhaps they can use the extension .WIP
Seems to accurately reflect the idea that WinZip is still a Work In Progress, eh?
Perhaps we should get some money together to get 'em a cab ride home. Heck, let's do one better, get 'em a limo ride home. As I remember the limos were cheaper, anyway.
Right now is a good time to be nice to those afflicted with radioactive treatments, 'cuz you might be next.
The diameter of the earth is pretty darn close to that.
Moral to the story: sunspots are really big.
No, I mean it.
Big.
In fact, I feel it would be a Good Thing(tm) for our friendly Slashdot host to stick the link to this project into their Quick Link section on the main page.
Of course, I've already bookmarked the page, but that's on one machine. What happens six months down the line when I need to rebuild my bookmarks? Search for the article on Slashdot? Ick.