Oh sorry for confusion, I thought you were speaking about the MSFT issue (surprise:they are in hd dvd board too) and scientologist guys.
I think that thing you reference is actually a lost war against current moderators on Slashdot. Lets not forget the "human" issue here. Whatever you do, if you say "Mods suck" in your post for example, you would get modded down. Lets say if meta moderators are in their good day and being understanding, the moderators won't get "busted" as some would agree with them.
I better add something, I have finally read the Digg founders blog and there is indeed some Cease and Desist crap involved. Apologies but I can't really browse digg.com with huge number of comments with my browser.
There is a difference. Slashdot took down couple of things because LAW and actual lawyer letters required them to do it. As far as I understand, Digg didn't get such COURT ORDER to take it down.
Digg.com is slashdot competitor? Hell, even Digg.com founders would disagree with it.
I thought I might say something and that maybe Slashdot had evolved into something beneficial for society.
Instead I learn that as far as tools go Slahsdot still doesn't get up.
C'mon guys. I miss SL. Get with it already. Why should Slashdot become something copied it very wrongly (long live Karma!) and lightly? Do you actually want that junk on Slashdot? As a supporter of site, I don't. Nobody wants.
If it is the user feedback on how content lines up, there is "Firehose", if it is "cool, dynamically updated pages and easy moderation", there is that "Discussion Beta" or something which also helps finding bugs in browsers/engines:)
Do you want that fanboy junk on Slashdot? I personally try to convince myself to stay away from their "Apple" section as owner of 3 Macs and didn't touch anything windows related for years. Why? I don't want to hate my platform of choice because of their "fans"(!).
If you're one of the endless little "Slashdot is dead, go to digg" trolls that reply to stories every now & again, I (and the rest of slashdot) would like to say: "Fuck You".
Your wonderful little Digg isn't looking so wonderful now - is it?
In comparison to Digg's censorship, slashdot has the hex key as a story tag. I have no clue how digg could be compared to slashdot or actually an alternative to slashdot.
I gave up posting "comments" to digg stories at Apple section for example and I am not alone. I have seen very good posts, actual trouble shooters got "dugg down" because they dared to critique Apple.
They have no right to whine about "censor" being horrible censor guys themselves. Oh my "Digg" nick(!) is Ilgaz too, in case they want to trace my posts and "digg down" which I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Careful mentioning RPG in such a way, there is a guy who got arrested because he was overheard on street telling his friend "I finally progressed my RPG, you will hear the bomb soon", a police arrested him.
I remember trying to convince Mozilla developers that a user really means to listen to live radio when he/she clicks on a.pls link, at least 99% does and it should open the file without asking to open or save but nobody was impressed.
This happens very very long time ago, even before end user friendly fork Firefox appears.
Still, same kind of people (not ff developers) flame Apple for auto opening files which are registered to system. Eh, guy dragged the thing to his/Applications folder at first place. Installed it and it registered its file types to OS. It also asks whether to open first time. Still, Apple should show a cryptic mime type to end user and will ask to pick application if he dares to say "open".
What I mean is, when people tell Apple made first general end usable Unix desktop, they mean that too. Apple's power comes from thinking about ordinary user. There is a lesson for open source as well as Firefox on this. Yes, "open with" dialog, explains a lot.
As far as I know, if the browser/application doesn't have stuff like"go/top of the page" etc menus, you won't be able to assign gestures to them. While using gestures, you actually use the "menus" in just different way.
And some bad news about the Cocoa Gestures:
Well officially Cocoa Gestures, the freeware version won't be maintained anymore but the "real thing", cocoa suite with cheaper price tag available. Just saying if you haven't heard already since by nature, that program needs updates.
Remember "Sorry, IE only" ? How stupid it is? Now fashion of top sites: "Sorry, IE and Firefox only". What if you dare (!) to use your operating systems default Safari browser?
We hated monopolistic "IE only" but it became Duopoly now, "IE and FF only".
Do I HAVE TO use Firefox? What if I want to use my operating systems default browser which is completely native and built on OS X frameworks?
Camino gets same problem too. http://cm.my.yahoo.com/ , Yahoo beta doesn'T allow it in, even doesn't give a chance to go in without spoofing. If you really care, you spoof it and see it works perfectly obviously because they both share same code base.
I must admit I never liked Mozilla family of browsers but never "hated" them either. Now these idiot webmasters still doing fascistic, 1990s fashion browser checks, I started to get irritated.
Just like first thing I do is switching my browsers search from Google to Yahoo, not because Yahoo is excellent, I just don't want to get dictated what search engine to use.
Excellent point. What part of the Apple "experience" really lends itself to OSS? They're a black hole for OSS. II have installed the famous Ubuntu just 3 days ago, 6.x version, I felt like I am in OS X minus font smoothing and fan noise.
Google had this coming for a long time. I know it will make some people mad but that "thing" they call Adwords must immediately change. They pay users like Amazon for filtering or do some advanced Ajax tricks, it is their choice.
I am actually seeing spyware/grayware vendors advertising on Adwords and I am using Safari OSX, I am not at their target audience even. I can't imagine stuff actual target audience (IE users) get. These are the very same people who claims random rivals products "badware" just because poor thing tried to check for updates.
They recently banned site of Jim Mitchell, a well known/popular OS X support engineer/developers page claiming he is playing some games with their advertising platform, polite way of saying guy is thief. It turns out, there are spammers featuring copies of popular blogs making money from them.
I go nuts when my frequently used tiny usenet group is spammed by spammers using Google groups with Google Mail (verified,real) address, when I head to pirate site to report them, I notice their one and only income is? Google Ads!
So now actual Virus linked? Not big deal at all. Hope it would make them THINK and learn from a company thinking they can do anything and it won't harm them in 1990s.
One last thing, if you are on a secure platform, go check http://zlashdot.org/ , yes "Typosquatting", lowest form of online mafia. See the search bar on top? See the advertising provider? End of discussion:)
This T1 deal looks much like Mainframe stuff. People have hard time understanding how IBM/Sun can sell those with such prices but when they hear about the service/uptime guarantee mainframe provides, they begin to understand.
I was visiting a admin friend of a major online shop, he was watching the stats/connected clients for a quick maintanance, it only dropped to 3000 guys at 4 AM. That is not Amazon for sure. Now imagine the line goes off mysteriously and those 3000 people have $10 in their shopping card, as they won't even click "reload" and go to another site, it would cost $3000. There goes 3x T1 Monthly price:)
You are speaking about the performance, well a site should better be down rather than "serving" a DSL customer 10kb/sec so it is the same deal.
I gave up looking up for specs when I found out my pretty old SB3100 Motorola cable modem in fact can therotically do 38mbit.. Poor thing was running 512 kbit that time.
As far as I know/heard Germany did every kind of marketing trick to drive people to ISDN exactly for reason you mention (cheaper). As I don't live there, I don't know the details but I remember hearing that ISDN was _cheaper_ and marketed continusly down to its native call waiting capabilities.
I am speaking about days 33.6 modem was luxury and ISDN was sounding like some sci-fi technology with B channels etc. addition in MS-DOS Terminat.
Perhaps a German would explain, it is very interesting. I am sure their ISDN adoption rate is much more higher than other parts of the World.
I didn't mean "it is Apple's fault", I tried to say that Apple will of course update their os and hardware as any alive company on the market. I tried to mean that MS is also low enough to use that natural evolution as an excuse to abandon Mac people. We later all seen a third party company with resources impossible to compare with MS could write a better working QT Based Windows Media solution.
I can't say a word against our platform of choice and our prophet.. err boss:)
I got a Quad G5 here and the PCI-E (or extreme,whatever it i called) only may bother some actual professionals. There are very expensive SCSI/Fiber cards which were bought to last and Apple says "Throw them away, buy new ones".
Lets not forget Workstation class professional graphic cards too.
The poster uses "Dell" which seems a bit trollish but it is not the case. I threw away a very happily used,working PCI TV card which isn't big deal for price but throwing away a working solution really bothers you.
No, Apple is fairly conservative about Finder which is called "The Macintosh Desktop Experience" (about box), that is why.
When they decided the majority of their userbase are fine with tabs, they enabled it in Leopard. Speaking about enabling, did you know Safari comes with tabs switched off by default?
Agree or don't, Ubuntu technical board seems to have decided that Ubuntu-PPC will be unofficial, unsupported distribution because of... download numbers:)
So, I don't want to start an argument here about that decision but doing my job as a person lived 2 hours of fan noise hell on my Quad G5: If you really want to install, make a clone of your working environment so when you hear fans full speed or someone makes fun of you at their support channel, you can revert back very quick without downtime.
I wouldn't post this warning if Ubuntu people were ethical enough to warn end user about unsupported situation right at downloads page. If I really wanted to run Linux , I would run Yellow Dog Linux btw. At least they don't take decisions based on... download numbers!
WMP for Mac is a PowerPC only application which has very serious problems with OS X 10.4. I actually feel sorry for people downloading it to Tiger OS and making it one of top 10 Apple downloads site products. It is also Apple's fault, they should at least say it is a PPC application which will run under Rosetta (emulation) on Intel Macs or force MS to say it.
I am hoping the media/big sites doesn't get fooled to MS offers this time, you see what happened on Wmedia.
People think when OS X plugin ships, it will always stay up to date and won't be abandoned when it really takes off. Here is what would happen
1)They release OS X plugin just to trick websites asking about the multiplatform and considerably larger userbase of Mac and get rid of OS lockdown
2) Apple doesn't stay at current OS version (of course) and at some point, plugin has problems even effecting the OS default installed browser.
3) They offload the plugin to some third party, third party knows how to code (better than them) but it lacks a very important feature such as streaming or paid content.
That is what exactly happened on Windows Media. Just watch if it gets popular because of exclusive agreements (read:bribes) or plain idiot companies locking themselves to a vendor.
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Oh sorry for confusion, I thought you were speaking about the MSFT issue (surprise:they are in hd dvd board too) and scientologist guys.
I think that thing you reference is actually a lost war against current moderators on Slashdot. Lets not forget the "human" issue here. Whatever you do, if you say "Mods suck" in your post for example, you would get modded down. Lets say if meta moderators are in their good day and being understanding, the moderators won't get "busted" as some would agree with them.
I better add something, I have finally read the Digg founders blog and there is indeed some Cease and Desist crap involved. Apologies but I can't really browse digg.com with huge number of comments with my browser.
If the HD DVD idiots posted a very basic hd_dvd_play Linux application both in QT and GTK, this wouldn't happen I guess.
There is a difference. Slashdot took down couple of things because LAW and actual lawyer letters required them to do it. As far as I understand, Digg didn't get such COURT ORDER to take it down.
Digg.com is slashdot competitor? Hell, even Digg.com founders would disagree with it.
Instead I learn that as far as tools go Slahsdot still doesn't get up.
C'mon guys. I miss SL. Get with it already. Why should Slashdot become something copied it very wrongly (long live Karma!) and lightly? Do you actually want that junk on Slashdot? As a supporter of site, I don't. Nobody wants.
If it is the user feedback on how content lines up, there is "Firehose", if it is "cool, dynamically updated pages and easy moderation", there is that "Discussion Beta" or something which also helps finding bugs in browsers/engines
Do you want that fanboy junk on Slashdot? I personally try to convince myself to stay away from their "Apple" section as owner of 3 Macs and didn't touch anything windows related for years. Why? I don't want to hate my platform of choice because of their "fans"(!).
Your wonderful little Digg isn't looking so wonderful now - is it?
In comparison to Digg's censorship, slashdot has the hex key as a story tag. I have no clue how digg could be compared to slashdot or actually an alternative to slashdot.
I gave up posting "comments" to digg stories at Apple section for example and I am not alone. I have seen very good posts, actual trouble shooters got "dugg down" because they dared to critique Apple.
Imagine Mr. Carmack posted this +5 insightful post (which I sadly agree as a Quad G5 user) http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=152340&
They have no right to whine about "censor" being horrible censor guys themselves. Oh my "Digg" nick(!) is Ilgaz too, in case they want to trace my posts and "digg down" which I wouldn't be surprised at all.
"Blizzard has confirmed that they'll announce a new product at their World Wide Invitation in Korea next month."
The "Korea" is the key, a country known for its massive amount of current Starcraft players.
It will be at least Starcraft related.
It is a mainstream rock band for God's sake, what next? Didn't appear nice on your Lynx?
As far as I know, Garage Band is not GNU either.
Careful mentioning RPG in such a way, there is a guy who got arrested because he was overheard on street telling his friend "I finally progressed my RPG, you will hear the bomb soon", a police arrested him.
:)
As you may guess he was a mainframe programmer
On the other hand majority of OS X users use and prefer (unlike win ie) Safari which doesn't have anything comparable to Firefox on extension level.
Perhaps Apple doesn't care to make Safari extensible such as Firefox because they want a simple but advanced under the hood application?
Also lack of extensions and simple, cocoa look could be another reason why OS X people use/prefer Camino.
I remember trying to convince Mozilla developers that a user really means to listen to live radio when he/she clicks on a .pls link, at least 99% does and it should open the file without asking to open or save but nobody was impressed.
/Applications folder at first place. Installed it and it registered its file types to OS. It also asks whether to open first time. Still, Apple should show a cryptic mime type to end user and will ask to pick application if he dares to say "open".
This happens very very long time ago, even before end user friendly fork Firefox appears.
Still, same kind of people (not ff developers) flame Apple for auto opening files which are registered to system. Eh, guy dragged the thing to his
What I mean is, when people tell Apple made first general end usable Unix desktop, they mean that too. Apple's power comes from thinking about ordinary user. There is a lesson for open source as well as Firefox on this. Yes, "open with" dialog, explains a lot.
As far as I know, if the browser/application doesn't have stuff like"go/top of the page" etc menus, you won't be able to assign gestures to them. While using gestures, you actually use the "menus" in just different way.
And some bad news about the Cocoa Gestures:
Well officially Cocoa Gestures, the freeware version won't be maintained anymore but the "real thing", cocoa suite with cheaper price tag available. Just saying if you haven't heard already since by nature, that program needs updates.
http://www.cocoasuite.com/
I use it for like 2 years or so now...
Remember "Sorry, IE only" ? How stupid it is? Now fashion of top sites: "Sorry, IE and Firefox only". What if you dare (!) to use your operating systems default Safari browser?
We hated monopolistic "IE only" but it became Duopoly now, "IE and FF only".
Do I HAVE TO use Firefox? What if I want to use my operating systems default browser which is completely native and built on OS X frameworks?
Camino gets same problem too. http://cm.my.yahoo.com/ , Yahoo beta doesn'T allow it in, even doesn't give a chance to go in without spoofing. If you really care, you spoof it and see it works perfectly obviously because they both share same code base.
I must admit I never liked Mozilla family of browsers but never "hated" them either. Now these idiot webmasters still doing fascistic, 1990s fashion browser checks, I started to get irritated.
Just like first thing I do is switching my browsers search from Google to Yahoo, not because Yahoo is excellent, I just don't want to get dictated what search engine to use.
Not saying anything else.
Google had this coming for a long time. I know it will make some people mad but that "thing" they call Adwords must immediately change. They pay users like Amazon for filtering or do some advanced Ajax tricks, it is their choice.
s e-really-fair/
:)
I am actually seeing spyware/grayware vendors advertising on Adwords and I am using Safari OSX, I am not at their target audience even. I can't imagine stuff actual target audience (IE users) get. These are the very same people who claims random rivals products "badware" just because poor thing tried to check for updates.
They recently banned site of Jim Mitchell, a well known/popular OS X support engineer/developers page claiming he is playing some games with their advertising platform, polite way of saying guy is thief. It turns out, there are spammers featuring copies of popular blogs making money from them.
http://jimmitchell.org/2007/03/08/is-google-adsen
I go nuts when my frequently used tiny usenet group is spammed by spammers using Google groups with Google Mail (verified,real) address, when I head to pirate site to report them, I notice their one and only income is? Google Ads!
So now actual Virus linked? Not big deal at all. Hope it would make them THINK and learn from a company thinking they can do anything and it won't harm them in 1990s.
One last thing, if you are on a secure platform, go check http://zlashdot.org/ , yes "Typosquatting", lowest form of online mafia. See the search bar on top? See the advertising provider? End of discussion
This T1 deal looks much like Mainframe stuff. People have hard time understanding how IBM/Sun can sell those with such prices but when they hear about the service/uptime guarantee mainframe provides, they begin to understand.
:)
I was visiting a admin friend of a major online shop, he was watching the stats/connected clients for a quick maintanance, it only dropped to 3000 guys at 4 AM. That is not Amazon for sure. Now imagine the line goes off mysteriously and those 3000 people have $10 in their shopping card, as they won't even click "reload" and go to another site, it would cost $3000. There goes 3x T1 Monthly price
You are speaking about the performance, well a site should better be down rather than "serving" a DSL customer 10kb/sec so it is the same deal.
I gave up looking up for specs when I found out my pretty old SB3100 Motorola cable modem in fact can therotically do 38mbit.. Poor thing was running 512 kbit that time.
S B3100/downloads/SB3100_Data_Sheet.pdf (PDF warning)
:)
http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/
It hurts you know
As far as I know/heard Germany did every kind of marketing trick to drive people to ISDN exactly for reason you mention (cheaper). As I don't live there, I don't know the details but I remember hearing that ISDN was _cheaper_ and marketed continusly down to its native call waiting capabilities.
I am speaking about days 33.6 modem was luxury and ISDN was sounding like some sci-fi technology with B channels etc. addition in MS-DOS Terminat.
Perhaps a German would explain, it is very interesting. I am sure their ISDN adoption rate is much more higher than other parts of the World.
I didn't mean "it is Apple's fault", I tried to say that Apple will of course update their os and hardware as any alive company on the market. I tried to mean that MS is also low enough to use that natural evolution as an excuse to abandon Mac people. We later all seen a third party company with resources impossible to compare with MS could write a better working QT Based Windows Media solution.
:)
I can't say a word against our platform of choice and our prophet.. err boss
I remember seeing Digital Alpha guys dressed like space people or aliens in some compex here. They were dressed in aluminium like stuff.
Believe me, if you have seen that, Intel Bunny guys would look very natural and rational to you.
As I found a HPC guy on Slashdot , how does IBM P5 series compare to those Xeons or Opterons?
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ibm/
Not that I will go out and buy them, I heard here (/.) that IBM Power processors dominate the HPC market because of their uncomparable specs.
I got a Quad G5 here and the PCI-E (or extreme,whatever it i called) only may bother some actual professionals. There are very expensive SCSI/Fiber cards which were bought to last and Apple says "Throw them away, buy new ones".
,working PCI TV card which isn't big deal for price but throwing away a working solution really bothers you.
Lets not forget Workstation class professional graphic cards too.
The poster uses "Dell" which seems a bit trollish but it is not the case. I threw away a very happily used
No, Apple is fairly conservative about Finder which is called "The Macintosh Desktop Experience" (about box), that is why.
When they decided the majority of their userbase are fine with tabs, they enabled it in Leopard. Speaking about enabling, did you know Safari comes with tabs switched off by default?
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ 2007-February/000098.html
:)
Agree or don't, Ubuntu technical board seems to have decided that Ubuntu-PPC will be unofficial, unsupported distribution because of... download numbers
So, I don't want to start an argument here about that decision but doing my job as a person lived 2 hours of fan noise hell on my Quad G5: If you really want to install, make a clone of your working environment so when you hear fans full speed or someone makes fun of you at their support channel, you can revert back very quick without downtime.
I wouldn't post this warning if Ubuntu people were ethical enough to warn end user about unsupported situation right at downloads page. If I really wanted to run Linux , I would run Yellow Dog Linux btw. At least they don't take decisions based on... download numbers!
WMP for Mac is a PowerPC only application which has very serious problems with OS X 10.4. I actually feel sorry for people downloading it to Tiger OS and making it one of top 10 Apple downloads site products. It is also Apple's fault, they should at least say it is a PPC application which will run under Rosetta (emulation) on Intel Macs or force MS to say it.
I am hoping the media/big sites doesn't get fooled to MS offers this time, you see what happened on Wmedia.
People think when OS X plugin ships, it will always stay up to date and won't be abandoned when it really takes off. Here is what would happen
1)They release OS X plugin just to trick websites asking about the multiplatform and considerably larger userbase of Mac and get rid of OS lockdown
2) Apple doesn't stay at current OS version (of course) and at some point, plugin has problems even effecting the OS default installed browser.
3) They offload the plugin to some third party, third party knows how to code (better than them) but it lacks a very important feature such as streaming or paid content.
That is what exactly happened on Windows Media. Just watch if it gets popular because of exclusive agreements (read:bribes) or plain idiot companies locking themselves to a vendor.