1: CLEAN TEETH - Buy soft dental picks- easier than flossing and smaller than a toothbrush. They sell them in packs of 50. (This becomes a huge issue in your 40's when the rest of the guys start losing their teeth.)
2: CLEAN BODY (relative to your country's standards). She shouldn't be distracted by the blackheads on your nose.
3: SMILE - and say her name. The most important word in any language is a person's name. It gets their attention in a crowded room almost instantly.
4: Avoid "one itis" / "your my soul mate". I.e. KID them a bit. If no interest- move on to find someone who is.
5: Flirt with every female regardless of age or appearence. Boosting other's egos and giving them a reason to smile is a worthwhile thing for a human to do for others. It helps you because you get over only flirting for sex and "true love."
Also: Ignore every romantic lie you see in movies. If you act the way most romantic movies show you to in real life you are going to creep her out/be "too heavy" or would even be stalking/setting yourself up for an injunction. Despair.com says it best. "Persistance: It's Over Dude. Let Her Go."
The truth is knights in shining armor were pretty vulgar lusty dudes. Women are not attacted to wimpy guys.
Thank god for Coke Zero. (Original coke formula + artificial sweetener vs "new coke" formula with artificial sweetener for Diet Coke).
FYI: Barq's Diet Rootbeer is great too. Esp. with rum.
I'm glad I'm not a "bitter taster" because these taste the same to me but two of my friends act like they taste like bitter melon.
--- I january I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic. I dropped sugar, bread (including pasta), and potatoes from my diet. Kept *every* thing else. Added heavy cream, xylitol (birch sugar), stevia. So far down 28 pounds! Lost 20 fast- then recently lost another 8.
NO change in calorie intake to explain that 8 pounds btw. It dropped in about 2 weeks after being stuck for 3 months.
I'm now 7 pounds from goal weight. I've started eating *some* bread (maybe 2 ounces a day?). Have a nice 4 pack going. I don't think 7 pounds is going to give me a six pack tho. Looks like I really could lose another 20 pounds at this point.
Start with two equal parts of the population. Let's say 1000 couples of each type.
If one part of the population has 5 children (each of whom has 5 children) (10 child families) and the other part has 1 children (each of whom has 1 child) (2 child families)
After just 5 generations- assuming the two don't mix (say because one is mexican catholics and the other one is upper class asians)- One group has grown to 3125000 couples of reproductive age while the other group still has 1000 couples of reproductive age.
Evolution is happening at a MUCH higher rate in the 3125000 population than in the 1000 population. It has not stopped.
When I was a kid, we played war with real rocks- probably 4-6 ounces (kid fist size).
Probably could have been seriously hurt.
Last year, at the voodoo concert in NO a mosh pit formed and I got to get slammed. It was *very* enjoyable (didn't get out in the middle- which was a good decision since there was a broken thumb and a broken ankle-- these were marines on break from afganistan it turned out later in the parking lot.)
As far as I can tell from scanning the web: M'dinat Yisrael == ISRAEL.
of May 2006, of Israel's 7 million people, 77% were Jews, 18.5% Arabs, and 4.3% "others".
Jewish extremists seem to be * Gush Emunim (Most references to this group include the word "was" * Jewish Fighting Organization * Kach Party
Each seems to comprise a *tiny* percentage of the jewish people. Jews do not celebrate when their extremists attack non jewish people. In fact, their organized goverment military recently ousted a lot of jews out of land and gave that land to the palestians.
There are also a lot of murderous "christian" cults and sects. Again, when they murder an abortion doctor, most members of the faith express horror and support for the capture and punishment of the perpetrators.
The question is, are there any world wide religions associated with mass murders of innocent people whose followers celebrate in the streets regularly over the death of complete strangers? I can only think of one.
You hear GIMP after watching PF and the first thing in your mind will ALWAYS be a heavyset moaning man in a full body leather suit with a zipper over his mouth who is a slave to two S&M murderers.
Businesses have the SENSE to rename the "NOVA" to something else when they are told that NO VA means "Doesn't go".
Open Source guys KEEP denying it is an issue despite that people repeatedly tell them it is a problem.
Even before PF, GIMP was a HIGHLY NEGATIVE word. People would be insulted if you used it about them or someone they liked. The only hole was if they really had a partially crippled leg in which case it was okay to say they were gimpy or had a gimp leg-- BUT NOT that they *were* a GIMP.
Man, I'm cut to the quick by your insult. Oh wait.. I'm not really. I'm have the company of a lot of morons out there. They have the same facts- they just don't state the consequences of those facts.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4021/is_n2_ v18/ai_17966623 Estimates of the Earth's human carrying capacity (loosely defined as the number of people the planet can support) range from fewer than 1 billion to more than 1 trillion. This enormous spread follows from widely varying concepts, methods, and assumptions. Most frequently, estimates fall between 4 billion and 16 billion. Counting the highest figure when an author gives a range of possibilities, the median estimate is 12 billion. Counting the lowest estimate when an author gives a range, the median estimate is 7.7 billion. The lowest and highest U.N. population projections for 2050 show that within the next century, the world's population could face ***exceedingly difficult choices in trading off human well-being and human numbers***.
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr/94/940711Arc4 189.html Optimum human population a third of present, scientists say STANFORD -- Until cultures change radically, the optimum number of people to exist on the planet at any one time lies in the vicinity of 1.5 billion to 2 billion people, about a third of the present number, three California ecologists estimated in an article published in the journal Population and Environment. http://darwin.bio.uci.edu/~sustain/bio65/lec16/b65 lec16.htm#HUMAN%20POPULATION%20GROWTH Several examples of how locally humans will grow until they die.
http://atlas.aaas.org/index.php?part=1&sec=trends The latest medium projection, produced in 1998, expects world population to reach 8.9 billion in 2050. This is a massive 1.1 billion less than was expected in the projection made in 1990 --Your 11 billion figure is out of date- now it is the "worst case" result of the model. My 9 billion figure is not something I pulled out of my ass. It was the median answer the last time I boned up on this stuff- perhaps it has changed in 7 years but the trend is less - not more.
I could go on. There were only 20,200,000 more hits for the search. Admittedly, probably a lot of them garbage.
I would say it's more "child wage" illegals- they are doing the jobs I used to do as a teenager for under minimum wage. "Slave wage" really couldn't apply to someone who risks death to voluntarily get here and take the job. However, Mexicans- waving *mexican* flags and talking about *retaking* their land is the last thing we need in the US. They are not taking pride in being American. And their core values are so great that they've done a wonderful job with Mexico- right?
Anyway, my view of the future is a world of "mexico cities" where the lucky ones live in a city surrounded by hills covered with paperboard and scrapwood houses. Mexico had a chance. You look at them in movies made in the 50's and they were clean and modern-- they lost it. It's horrible there now- 5 year olds sleeping in piles on the street.
the amount of food is going up. the quality of that food is going down.
Hence the wierd surges in diseases (like diabetes).
Eventually, some portion of humans will adapt to the diet and they will do okay. Some humans are already better adapted to grain diets and it's only been about 10,000 to 20,000 years that we've been eating it. Some folks from the steppes of russia can eat salt without blood pressure issues- adaption to a mere thousand or so years of eating tons of salted meat.
Totally agree that we are growing more and more productive food. And we are probably no where near the limits yet. But the risk is increasing. All we need is one new disease that loves wheat and the irish potato famine is going to look like a 7 day diet.
Let me get to the nub. We are arguing over details.
Do you think the population of the earth will stop growing at a sustainable point? I do not. Do you think we can infiniately increase the carrying capacity of the earth? I do not.
Do you think sometime between now and 500 years from now (when the weight of humans would equal the weight of the earth) something is going to have to change? I think we could agree something has to change- currently we are looking at 9 billion people as some kind of maximum. OTH, huge areas of the world are being ruined and converted to desert already.
Will we have a stable system if we stop at the absolute maximum number of humans possible on the planet? Clearly not- without any excess capacity, the slightest problem will result in a lot of deaths- and will probably set off wars which will mess up the system even further. Why are we going right up to the edge?
Do we want to have a mass die off? No- we are just stupid and "everyone has a right to have a big family".
At least we could stop subsidizing kids locally and giving food to people who are overbreeding elsewhere in the world. But we won't. Only china had the willpower to even get close to this and their population is *still increasing*.
Do we want for 80% of the world to be walking skeletons with balloon bellies but it's okay because they are *alive*?
Nah-- just cause it's like talking to say a fundamentalist who is for destroying the national forests since "we are in the end times anyway." I'm not saying you are fundamentalist- you seem reasonable.
Your world view is just completely alien and wonderfully optimistic. So you are going from different axioms to mine. Given the same facts, we are going to consistently come to different conclusions. That's okay- we have all kinds in society.
Personally, I think you can't see the nasty reality that is coming within the next 50 years. I get that you think I'm daftly over pessimistic and everything's going to be okay.
Overpopulation is going to ruin every pleasure we have. I pointed to a couple high luxury points and everyone latched on to those. But I see a world with no freedom, no chance to get ahead, no real luxuries(i.e. most luxury goods the masses will be able to get will be "fake" luxuries and not "real" luxuries.), moving inexonerably towards a massive die-off from a manufactured disease by some wacko, world war, a failure of crops that makes the potato disease that killed lots of irish trivial, where you have to *reserve* a camping spot at a bloody park a few years in advance and then it's still so overcrowded you bump into people constantly, where you can only engage in the most passive resistance, and where everything you do is tracked. Where most of humanity is packed into efficient 10'x10' living areas (by their own choice since it is all they can afford), no one has much freedom of movement and mass genocide takes place with such regularity that no one gives a damn about it any more.
It's not all bad, except for the dying and shortage of real food- people will be alive- relatively free to worship their religion- have sex- but with more and more laws that control their behavior and take away the freedom to engage in behaviors we currently feel are legal because they are *so* crowded together that things we are free to do incite fights and murders.
But, you don't see any of that. It's all going to be okay basically.
Now, if I thought you were possibly right and the trend wasn't *inevitable*, I'd probably have said, "well, I hope you are right". But I think we are going to breed and breed and keep breeding until absolutely the edge of hell and there is not a damn thing you, or I, or anyone can do to stop it.
Don't misunderstand- I have a great life. I survived cancer. I have a family and good relations with them. A nice circle of friends. My attitude about *now* and *today* is great. When I look out about 50 years, my conclusion is always the same tho. It's going to be a place that I probably don't want to live in.
Slashdot Mirror
Taught me a lot really fast.
It was like life at triple speed.
I learned how to recognize users a lot better.
I learned a lot about logistics.
I learned things that help me in my daily job as a project lead.
I was a natural leader before- but doing the guild bit was trial by fire.
These days.. I play about 6 hours a week tho. It's a game and I have RL stuff that is fun to do. It was a glorious period from 1999 to 2001 tho.
Now all we need is a reference to a certain 1930's teutonic dictator and the thread will be complete.
I might as well throw down on this a bit...
1: CLEAN TEETH - Buy soft dental picks- easier than flossing and smaller than a toothbrush. They sell them in packs of 50. (This becomes a huge issue in your 40's when the rest of the guys start losing their teeth.)
2: CLEAN BODY (relative to your country's standards). She shouldn't be distracted by the blackheads on your nose.
3: SMILE - and say her name. The most important word in any language is a person's name. It gets their attention in a crowded room almost instantly.
4: Avoid "one itis" / "your my soul mate". I.e. KID them a bit. If no interest- move on to find someone who is.
5: Flirt with every female regardless of age or appearence. Boosting other's egos and giving them a reason to smile is a worthwhile thing for a human to do for others. It helps you because you get over only flirting for sex and "true love."
Also: Ignore every romantic lie you see in movies. If you act the way most romantic movies show you to in real life you are going to creep her out/be "too heavy" or would even be stalking/setting yourself up for an injunction. Despair.com says it best. "Persistance: It's Over Dude. Let Her Go."
The truth is knights in shining armor were pretty vulgar lusty dudes. Women are not attacted to wimpy guys.
that a life form that uses radioactivity is fairly stable.
news on chernobyl shows that life can adapt to radioactivity quicker and better than we thought too.
There's a lot more action going on at trek conventions (including some really extreme stuff at the big cons) than most folks realize.
Biggest problem I see with the guys is that they look like 3's but ignore any female less than a 7.
Either fix yourselves up a bit or make your standards a bit more realistic.
Hey that's great for you man. I just don't buy the iTUNE price as fair.
.33 for a song.
Likewise- multiple friends have lost the use of their iTUNES songs now based on machine changes.
I think a fair rate is more like
Thank god for Coke Zero. (Original coke formula + artificial sweetener vs "new coke" formula with artificial sweetener for Diet Coke).
FYI: Barq's Diet Rootbeer is great too. Esp. with rum.
I'm glad I'm not a "bitter taster" because these taste the same to me but two of my friends act like they taste like bitter melon.
---
I january I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic. I dropped sugar, bread (including pasta), and potatoes from my diet. Kept *every* thing else. Added heavy cream, xylitol (birch sugar), stevia. So far down 28 pounds! Lost 20 fast- then recently lost another 8.
NO change in calorie intake to explain that 8 pounds btw. It dropped in about 2 weeks after being stuck for 3 months.
I'm now 7 pounds from goal weight. I've started eating *some* bread (maybe 2 ounces a day?). Have a nice 4 pack going. I don't think 7 pounds is going to give me a six pack tho. Looks like I really could lose another 20 pounds at this point.
Steve Jobs was right for people who make about double the national average income.
Not many people have $10,000 to fill up an ipod.
just for curiosity's sake...
Mount Rushmore & the giant Spache will last how long?
weren't we reading here recently that Vista will restrict doing this in a home environment?
Maybe i'm confused.
Not sure you have seen the Eternal sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Good flick- and it shows carrey's range.
No.
Start with two equal parts of the population. Let's say 1000 couples of each type.
If one part of the population has 5 children (each of whom has 5 children) (10 child families)
and the other part has 1 children (each of whom has 1 child) (2 child families)
After just 5 generations- assuming the two don't mix (say because one is mexican catholics and the other one is upper class asians)- One group has grown to 3125000 couples of reproductive age while the other group still has 1000 couples of reproductive age.
Evolution is happening at a MUCH higher rate in the 3125000 population than in the 1000 population. It has not stopped.
When I was a kid, we played war with real rocks- probably 4-6 ounces (kid fist size).
Probably could have been seriously hurt.
Last year, at the voodoo concert in NO a mosh pit formed and I got to get slammed. It was *very* enjoyable (didn't get out in the middle- which was a good decision since there was a broken thumb and a broken ankle-- these were marines on break from afganistan it turned out later in the parking lot.)
As far as I can tell from scanning the web: M'dinat Yisrael == ISRAEL.
of May 2006, of Israel's 7 million people, 77% were Jews, 18.5% Arabs, and 4.3% "others".
Jewish extremists seem to be
* Gush Emunim (Most references to this group include the word "was"
* Jewish Fighting Organization
* Kach Party
Each seems to comprise a *tiny* percentage of the jewish people. Jews do not celebrate when their extremists attack non jewish people. In fact, their organized goverment military recently ousted a lot of jews out of land and gave that land to the palestians.
There are also a lot of murderous "christian" cults and sects. Again, when they murder an abortion doctor, most members of the faith express horror and support for the capture and punishment of the perpetrators.
The question is, are there any world wide religions associated with mass murders of innocent people whose followers celebrate in the streets regularly over the death of complete strangers? I can only think of one.
Mods can definately be snippy.
Still will get read.
Information wants to be free.
It happens.
Your assertion is sound- a lot of people just don't agree with it.
It wouldn't stop the problem of people who want to have large families tho.
Probably would have had more if Stalin hadn't killed so many farmers. Probably made a difference today of 60 million people.
But hospitals can't turn them away and they have to make up the costs of providing those services from *someone*.
So ninja mod day eh?
Anyone reading the thread is still going to read that one post even tho you nuked it down.
No he's right.
You hear GIMP after watching PF and the first thing in your mind will ALWAYS be a heavyset moaning man in a full body leather suit with a zipper over his mouth who is a slave to two S&M murderers.
Businesses have the SENSE to rename the "NOVA" to something else when they are told that NO VA means "Doesn't go".
Open Source guys KEEP denying it is an issue despite that people repeatedly tell them it is a problem.
Even before PF, GIMP was a HIGHLY NEGATIVE word. People would be insulted if you used it about them or someone they liked. The only hole was if they really had a partially crippled leg in which case it was okay to say they were gimpy or had a gimp leg-- BUT NOT that they *were* a GIMP.
Man, I'm cut to the quick by your insult. Oh wait.. I'm not really.
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I'm have the company of a lot of morons out there.
They have the same facts- they just don't state the consequences of those facts.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4021/is_n2
Estimates of the Earth's human carrying capacity (loosely defined as the number of people the planet can support) range from fewer than 1 billion to more than 1 trillion. This enormous spread follows from widely varying concepts, methods, and assumptions. Most frequently, estimates fall between 4 billion and 16 billion. Counting the highest figure when an author gives a range of possibilities, the median estimate is 12 billion. Counting the lowest estimate when an author gives a range, the median estimate is 7.7 billion. The lowest and highest U.N. population projections for 2050 show that within the next century, the world's population could face ***exceedingly difficult choices in trading off human well-being and human numbers***.
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr/94/940711Arc
Optimum human population a third of present, scientists say
STANFORD -- Until cultures change radically, the optimum number of people to exist on the planet at any one time lies in the vicinity of 1.5 billion to 2 billion people, about a third of the present number, three California ecologists estimated in an article published in the journal Population and Environment.
http://darwin.bio.uci.edu/~sustain/bio65/lec16/b6
Several examples of how locally humans will grow until they die.
http://atlas.aaas.org/index.php?part=1&sec=trends
The latest medium projection, produced in 1998, expects world population to reach 8.9 billion in 2050. This is a massive 1.1 billion less than was expected in the projection made in 1990
--Your 11 billion figure is out of date- now it is the "worst case" result of the model. My 9 billion figure is not something I pulled out of my ass. It was the median answer the last time I boned up on this stuff- perhaps it has changed in 7 years but the trend is less - not more.
I could go on. There were only 20,200,000 more hits for the search. Admittedly, probably a lot of them garbage.
I would say it's more "child wage" illegals- they are doing the jobs I used to do as a teenager for under minimum wage. "Slave wage" really couldn't apply to someone who risks death to voluntarily get here and take the job. However, Mexicans- waving *mexican* flags and talking about *retaking* their land is the last thing we need in the US. They are not taking pride in being American. And their core values are so great that they've done a wonderful job with Mexico- right?
Anyway, my view of the future is a world of "mexico cities" where the lucky ones live in a city surrounded by hills covered with paperboard and scrapwood houses. Mexico had a chance. You look at them in movies made in the 50's and they were clean and modern-- they lost it. It's horrible there now- 5 year olds sleeping in piles on the street.
the amount of food is going up.
the quality of that food is going down.
Hence the wierd surges in diseases (like diabetes).
Eventually, some portion of humans will adapt to the diet and they will do okay. Some humans are already better adapted to grain diets and it's only been about 10,000 to 20,000 years that we've been eating it. Some folks from the steppes of russia can eat salt without blood pressure issues- adaption to a mere thousand or so years of eating tons of salted meat.
Totally agree that we are growing more and more productive food. And we are probably no where near the limits yet. But the risk is increasing. All we need is one new disease that loves wheat and the irish potato famine is going to look like a 7 day diet.
Okay...
So you say if a new body is born and no old soul implants in it instantly, then it grows a new soul that blocks out old souls?
So then *still*, every reincarnated old soul blocks the formation of one new soul.
No, I wasn't referring to the dustbowl.
Let me get to the nub. We are arguing over details.
Do you think the population of the earth will stop growing at a sustainable point?
I do not.
Do you think we can infiniately increase the carrying capacity of the earth?
I do not.
Do you think sometime between now and 500 years from now (when the weight of humans would equal the weight of the earth) something is going to have to change?
I think we could agree something has to change- currently we are looking at 9 billion people as some kind of maximum. OTH, huge areas of the world are being ruined and converted to desert already.
Will we have a stable system if we stop at the absolute maximum number of humans possible on the planet?
Clearly not- without any excess capacity, the slightest problem will result in a lot of deaths- and will probably set off wars which will mess up the system even further.
Why are we going right up to the edge?
Do we want to have a mass die off? No- we are just stupid and "everyone has a right to have a big family".
At least we could stop subsidizing kids locally and giving food to people who are overbreeding elsewhere in the world. But we won't. Only china had the willpower to even get close to this and their population is *still increasing*.
Do we want for 80% of the world to be walking skeletons with balloon bellies but it's okay because they are *alive*?
Nah-- just cause it's like talking to say a fundamentalist who is for destroying the national forests since "we are in the end times anyway." I'm not saying you are fundamentalist- you seem reasonable.
Your world view is just completely alien and wonderfully optimistic. So you are going from different axioms to mine. Given the same facts, we are going to consistently come to different conclusions. That's okay- we have all kinds in society.
Personally, I think you can't see the nasty reality that is coming within the next 50 years. I get that you think I'm daftly over pessimistic and everything's going to be okay.
Overpopulation is going to ruin every pleasure we have. I pointed to a couple high luxury points and everyone latched on to those. But I see a world with no freedom, no chance to get ahead, no real luxuries(i.e. most luxury goods the masses will be able to get will be "fake" luxuries and not "real" luxuries.), moving inexonerably towards a massive die-off from a manufactured disease by some wacko, world war, a failure of crops that makes the potato disease that killed lots of irish trivial, where you have to *reserve* a camping spot at a bloody park a few years in advance and then it's still so overcrowded you bump into people constantly, where you can only engage in the most passive resistance, and where everything you do is tracked. Where most of humanity is packed into efficient 10'x10' living areas (by their own choice since it is all they can afford), no one has much freedom of movement and mass genocide takes place with such regularity that no one gives a damn about it any more.
It's not all bad, except for the dying and shortage of real food- people will be alive- relatively free to worship their religion- have sex- but with more and more laws that control their behavior and take away the freedom to engage in behaviors we currently feel are legal because they are *so* crowded together that things we are free to do incite fights and murders.
But, you don't see any of that. It's all going to be okay basically.
Now, if I thought you were possibly right and the trend wasn't *inevitable*, I'd probably have said, "well, I hope you are right". But I think we are going to breed and breed and keep breeding until absolutely the edge of hell and there is not a damn thing you, or I, or anyone can do to stop it.
Don't misunderstand- I have a great life. I survived cancer. I have a family and good relations with them. A nice circle of friends. My attitude about *now* and *today* is great. When I look out about 50 years, my conclusion is always the same tho. It's going to be a place that I probably don't want to live in.
That make it a bit clearer?