"over the last couple of days, the situation seems to have become a little more aggressive. We've received a number of reports that people's systems are not merely downloading the installer but actually starting it up. Our own testing shows that, yes, the optional update is getting chosen by default, and that's not supposed to happen to optional updates."
While I'm pro-auto-car, they still have serious limitations.
They tend to drive slowly. Part of the reason they are safe is because of how slowly they driver. If humans did 25mph on city streets, they'd have less accidents too.
They don't handle heavy traffic well (handing control over to the human when things get bad).
And they are based on unrealistic ideas of what traffic is like. Real world traffic during prime driving hours is well under ideal safe driving conditions. Cars average 80' apart while doing over 60mph. If you get further apart than that, another car will cut into the space and you are at 35' apart again. You can't even get on a freeway for 4 to 8 hours a day without breaking all kinds of 'ideal safe driving' rules.
Despite higher reaction speeds, at 65mph, it still takes over 100' to stop a car even if you react instantaneously.
Autocars will get there. And they'll be well suited for low traffic or lower speed conditions sooner than for high speed congested conditions. -- She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
It's going to be very tricky for robotic plumbers and electricians.
The code changes constantly (so a robot would have to be updated constantly- and correctly or else face massive liability). And the job is a million exceptions especially when dealing with older construction.
I'm sure it's possible eventually- but it's probably not cost effective.
I'm in agreement with the possibility that 60% of jobs will be automated within 40 years (matching government projections) but plumbers and electricians are not among the jobs projected to be automated.
A handful of times I instinctively grabbed the wheel or hit the brakes when a few impatient New York drivers cut me off, not really sure if the car would figure out what was happening. I'm sure the car would have, but I didn't want to be responsible for crunching up a $120,000 car I didn't own. Only once did the car ask me to retake control, ostensibly because it couldn't read the nearly nonexistent lane markings.
Cleverly, Tesla records data of every mile driven in each of its cars (even those that aren't Autopilot-equipped) to aid in situations where lane markings are faded, so Autopilot was able to handle much of the poorly marked West Side Highway, but not all of it. A warning chime accompanied by a message on the screen urged me to put my hands back on the wheel, though I was able to reset Autopilot after a few hundred yards.
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Two kinds of "heavy" traffic. One is stop and go traffic. Autopilot is going to be fine there.
The other is 65+ mph with cars well under ideal safe driving distances with drivers cutting in and out of lanes, poorly marked freeways under construction, etc.
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http://www.teslamotorsclub.com... Once you get the hang of where it works well and where it doesn't, it is fabulous. My daily commute is 75 miles (one way), of which only about 20 is highway. One 2-lane road it works flawlessly on, the other is a bit too twisty so I get to handle that one. Just keep your hands on the wheel and AP can't do anything you don't want it to....
Yah, I think the AI has a tendency to follow the lines on the right side of the car for reference, it gets confused when they either merge with another lane or exit.
While I'm pro-auto-car, they still have serious limitations.
They tend to drive slowly. Part of the reason they are safe is because of how slowly they driver. If humans did 25mph on city streets, they'd have less accidents too.
They don't handle heavy traffic well (handing control over to the human when things get bad).
And they are based on unrealistic ideas of what traffic is like. Real world traffic during prime driving hours is well under ideal safe driving conditions. Cars average 80' apart while doing over 60mph. If you get further apart than that, another car will cut into the space and you are at 35' apart again. You can't even get on a freeway for 4 to 8 hours a day without breaking all kinds of 'ideal safe driving' rules.
Despite higher reaction speeds, at 65mph, it still takes over 100' to stop a car even if you react instantaneously.
Autocars will get there. And they'll be well suited for low traffic or lower speed conditions sooner than for high speed congested conditions.
Highly successful and talented artists need little training.
And yet, a much larger population of graphic designers does.
It's really the difference between skill and talent. Most jobs need someone with skill to perform a task. Most jobs do not require a John Carmack and indeed John Carmack would find most programming jobs to be the very definition of hell.
"Hey John, we need a new tax total on the web page. It's going to require about 8 hours of coding, 24 hours of testing, and then 6 meetings, 8 forms, a code review, unit tests, and you need to work over christmas to install it when the users are not using the web page."
Snark aside, if the Segway had actually been successful, it would have had to have been licensed. Picture the streets and sidewalks full of people on segways tooling around at 12mph while texting and not paying attention.
As a novelty item for people to use in a fairly controlled setting, the government doesn't care so much.
I think hover boards / smart boards are cool. I'm too big (6'5")/249 pounds and wish they'd make them a little larger.
Various studies have seemed to indicate some sensitivity. Most studies have not. However, some of the major studies had flaws such as only testing for a few minutes per subject.
Lots of low incidence problems are often put off as in people's heads until a way is discovered to objectively measure the problem (such as the ATP cycle for chronic fatigue).
I'd look into bad power supplies and other noise creators first but I'm not discounting the possibility it could be electrical fields.
Perfectly even distribution is one factor. However, a more important factor was that you had improbable streaks that fit with the statistical model.
If you ask a human to simulate flipping a coin a hundred times, their biggest problem is not distribution but the inability to put in a streaks of 7 or more of the same face.
The one time I went to vegas to try gambling, the roulette wheel got 13 reds in a row. By the time it finally spun black, there was a large crowd observing it even tho it was a low stakes table ($1000 I think). I read later that statistically it happens multiple times a day in vegas every day.
you make up a strong brine. You put the dice into the brine. with a few taps you can tell if a dice is strongly unfair because it will keep floating back to the same number or edge when tapped down into the water.
Plus it makes cool salt crystals as it dries.
I have an unfair d20. But it's odd. On multiple occasions it's rolled four 20's in a roll. Very improbably. Yet some evening's it rolls no 20s. When I salt test it, it consistently floats to the edge between 10 and 12 so it's definitely unfair but it's still streaky.
The point of "early" 1914 was that by "mid" 1914 we had a horrific world war going on with massacres, huge numbers of death, and not long after that a worldwide plague that killed tens of millions of people.
Things are fine now... in "late" 2015. By "late" 2016, things could go all to hell and we could have billions dead. Things are 'so far so good".
We process food differently- we sneak gluten into everything (mostly to save a few cents). People who get diarhea, who bleed, who lose villie, and who die from this must be the most incredible hypochodriacs ever. I have one friend who's entire skin (inside and out) peels when she gets exposed to the low levels in grain based vodka.
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It gets cheaper all the time to work with diseases. A well designed disease which had a high infection rate but a slower mortality period would spread widely before it started killing people.
Low probably but catastrophic results. ---
The automation thing is different. Over half the population literally won't be able to work as well as a machine. Lots of luddites died homeless of exposure (and were killed when they turned violent when they lost hope of fair treatment). Picture that on a much larger scale. As in over 50% of the world's population being unable to trade labor for food and shelter.
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On the fruit and vegetable thing... we have artificial estrogens causing young girls to start their periods at 9 and meanwhile male fertility has dropped by 95% in the last 100 years almost entirely due to environmental toxins. Likewise, many of the fruits would be unrecognizable as they are mostly cellulose to make it easier to ship them and to extend their shelf life. "real" fruits and vegetables are prohibitively expensive for most. Many people survive on a diet of empty calories since they can't afford the real stuff.
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A financial panic is going to have a larger impact because the amount of world resources impacted will be larger. The number of people affected will be an order of magnitude greater. Recovering will take much longer than previously. It's 'good until if fails and then it's really bad". Things are much more brittle than they used to be. It's cheaper until you get a crisis and then you have no food on the shelves for a week (and no gasoline to leave the area) and no option to obtain food.
We really are sort of riding the chaotic wave these days. It is better in many ways- but it's much more brittle than it used to be. Redundancy has been removed from the system. It's like appliances. My A/C is 32 years old. A capacitor went out two years ago. The repairman said, "This is 20 years old. The new one I put in, will not last over 5 years. Also, if you get a new A/C unit, it won't last over 10 years. Probably 7."
* We've lost privacy. * We've lost 12 minutes per hour of our entertainment to advertising. * The quality of fruits and vegetables are down for most people. * There's a growing set of food intolerance diseases- most likely due to issues with the food. * If we have another widespread war- it's going to be fast and horrific compared earlier wars. * If we have another financial panic get thru- it's going to be worse than the great depression. * If a terrorist group gets hold of increasingly cheap bioweapons, it could end human civilization. * If automation proceeds as expected- our current economic system breaks down as over half the population loses the ability to trade their time and labor for products.
A lot of plates are spinning. We might pull it off. Or things could fall apart astonishingly fast.
We could have had a war break out with Russia just last week via Turkey. And we would have been pulled into it by treaties- just as happened in world war one.
Generally- I agree we are doing better- but things are much more "brittle" than they used to be. We've reduced redundancy and if things go badly over a large area, it will impact ability to get food and power to a lot more people.
So... as the guy falling past the 6th floor window said.... "So far so good!"
Brake fluid is clear to brown and slick (in my car it's clear). Power steering is reddish or light brown and thin (in my car it is reddish). Transmission fluid is reddish or magenta and smells sweet Oil is amber.
I tell the service rep what happened before and that I'll be checking before I leave the lot. (this is the most important part) When done, I get the service rep and we pop the hood and check each of the fluids to make sure they look/smell/feel right (this is less important since the car is probably screwed at this point anyway).
http://www.agcoauto.com/conten... "They design the rubber used in the braking system for high pressure sealing. Manufacturers also design this type of rubber for use only with brake fluid. Severe damage results from even the smallest amount of petroleum-based fluid added to the brake system. Oil-based fluid causes the rubber in the braking system to swell and very rapidly deteriorate.
The most common mistake is adding power steering fluid to the brakes*
power steering fluid will swell and deteriorate brake seals Power steering fluid contamination will cause seals to immediately begin swelling. As the seals swell, they move forward and block the passages that allow the brake system to function. One example is the return ports in the brake master-cylinder. The swollen seal blocks this port and the return of fluid to the reservoir, when we release the brake pedal. "
Speaking seriously... anything smaller than an "H" cup gets about the same reaction from me. I'm more about the ratio of hips to midriff. However, "H" cup on up do prompt an automatic reaction.
My "genuine dealer service" accidentally put power steering fluid into my brake system ruining it.
At first they were going to fix it but once it went north of $3000, they balked and said a prior maintenance 7,000 miles previously might have put the fluid in (since i came to them for the one 3,500 miles before).
In the end, they gave me a verifiably good deal on a replacement new car when I pointed out they could fix the car for almost "free" since it was mostly labor.
Since then, I always tell the service tech this happened on a prior visit before they start and I always check the fluids before I leave the lot.
But there is nothing magical about a particular mechanic.
I agree on the warranty. Now that I've retired I will probably be exiting 'new car land' in another 5 years and be in the land of used cars again.
You can still buy the "less expensive" incandescent bulbs that are actually much more expensive than LED's now (plus the risk of changing high lights on a ladder every 9 months.
Did you read the parent post? This is a case of buyers who want to buy electric... who walk in prepared to buy electric... and the sales people steer or even actively push the buyer away from electric. Mainly- again from the article- because the electric car will cost the buyer LESS money on maintenance.
You can bet the dealerships have set up commission structure to encourage sales of gasoline cars too.
Electric cars don't make as much sense as they did in 2014 with oil breaking $40 a barrel. But in 2-3 years oil is going to scream back up to over $100 (inflation adjusted) a barrel (it's done it twice before) and electric cars will be almost free to buy then when you consider improvements in battery life and capacity combined with an average $16,000 gasoline savings vs an average $1600 electricity cost. Plus another $4,000 in reduced maintenance costs.
The gas car is the "less expensive" bulb that breaks down and requires more maintenance AND burns 10x the energy that that the "more expensive" bubls do.
Most LED bulbs (now at $4.98) pay for themselves in 3 months now. The rest is free money from reduced energy bills.
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Except Microsoft has already installed the windows 10 update without user input at least once. It could happen again any time.
http://arstechnica.com/informa...
"over the last couple of days, the situation seems to have become a little more aggressive. We've received a number of reports that people's systems are not merely downloading the installer but actually starting it up. Our own testing shows that, yes, the optional update is getting chosen by default, and that's not supposed to happen to optional updates."
What about this merits a zero mod?
Feels like someone is gaming the mod system!
While I'm pro-auto-car, they still have serious limitations.
They tend to drive slowly. Part of the reason they are safe is because of how slowly they driver. If humans did 25mph on city streets, they'd have less accidents too.
They don't handle heavy traffic well (handing control over to the human when things get bad).
And they are based on unrealistic ideas of what traffic is like. Real world traffic during prime driving hours is well under ideal safe driving conditions. Cars average 80' apart while doing over 60mph. If you get further apart than that, another car will cut into the space and you are at 35' apart again. You can't even get on a freeway for 4 to 8 hours a day without breaking all kinds of 'ideal safe driving' rules.
Despite higher reaction speeds, at 65mph, it still takes over 100' to stop a car even if you react instantaneously.
Autocars will get there. And they'll be well suited for low traffic or lower speed conditions sooner than for high speed congested conditions.
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She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
It's going to be very tricky for robotic plumbers and electricians.
The code changes constantly (so a robot would have to be updated constantly- and correctly or else face massive liability). And the job is a million exceptions especially when dealing with older construction.
I'm sure it's possible eventually- but it's probably not cost effective.
I'm in agreement with the possibility that 60% of jobs will be automated within 40 years (matching government projections) but plumbers and electricians are not among the jobs projected to be automated.
http://mashable.com/2015/11/06...
A handful of times I instinctively grabbed the wheel or hit the brakes when a few impatient New York drivers cut me off, not really sure if the car would figure out what was happening. I'm sure the car would have, but I didn't want to be responsible for crunching up a $120,000 car I didn't own. Only once did the car ask me to retake control, ostensibly because it couldn't read the nearly nonexistent lane markings.
Cleverly, Tesla records data of every mile driven in each of its cars (even those that aren't Autopilot-equipped) to aid in situations where lane markings are faded, so Autopilot was able to handle much of the poorly marked West Side Highway, but not all of it. A warning chime accompanied by a message on the screen urged me to put my hands back on the wheel, though I was able to reset Autopilot after a few hundred yards.
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Two kinds of "heavy" traffic. One is stop and go traffic. Autopilot is going to be fine there.
The other is 65+ mph with cars well under ideal safe driving distances with drivers cutting in and out of lanes, poorly marked freeways under construction, etc.
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http://www.teslamotorsclub.com... ...
Once you get the hang of where it works well and where it doesn't, it is fabulous. My daily commute is 75 miles (one way), of which only about 20 is highway. One 2-lane road it works flawlessly on, the other is a bit too twisty so I get to handle that one. Just keep your hands on the wheel and AP can't do anything you don't want it to.
Yah, I think the AI has a tendency to follow the lines on the right side of the car for reference, it gets confused when they either merge with another lane or exit.
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It will get there. It's just not there quite yet.
While I'm pro-auto-car, they still have serious limitations.
They tend to drive slowly. Part of the reason they are safe is because of how slowly they driver. If humans did 25mph on city streets, they'd have less accidents too.
They don't handle heavy traffic well (handing control over to the human when things get bad).
And they are based on unrealistic ideas of what traffic is like. Real world traffic during prime driving hours is well under ideal safe driving conditions. Cars average 80' apart while doing over 60mph. If you get further apart than that, another car will cut into the space and you are at 35' apart again. You can't even get on a freeway for 4 to 8 hours a day without breaking all kinds of 'ideal safe driving' rules.
Despite higher reaction speeds, at 65mph, it still takes over 100' to stop a car even if you react instantaneously.
Autocars will get there. And they'll be well suited for low traffic or lower speed conditions sooner than for high speed congested conditions.
Highly successful and talented artists need little training.
And yet, a much larger population of graphic designers does.
It's really the difference between skill and talent. Most jobs need someone with skill to perform a task. Most jobs do not require a John Carmack and indeed John Carmack would find most programming jobs to be the very definition of hell.
"Hey John, we need a new tax total on the web page. It's going to require about 8 hours of coding, 24 hours of testing, and then 6 meetings, 8 forms, a code review, unit tests, and you need to work over christmas to install it when the users are not using the web page."
yes but that's for rich people to use.
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Snark aside, if the Segway had actually been successful, it would have had to have been licensed. Picture the streets and sidewalks full of people on segways tooling around at 12mph while texting and not paying attention.
As a novelty item for people to use in a fairly controlled setting, the government doesn't care so much.
I think hover boards / smart boards are cool. I'm too big (6'5")/249 pounds and wish they'd make them a little larger.
Lot of hot youtubers like them so fans of those hot youtubers will have seen them and like them.
There are already cool videos of a 7 year old doing skatepark stunts on one.
The fact you can do 7 to 8 mph on one and well made ones have a 15 mile range is pretty damn impressive.
A sub 3 hour charging time too.
I'm 6'5" and I'm 25 pounds over the weight limit (so probably greatly reduced range) or I'd own one yesterday.
http://www.popsci.com/science/...
Magnetism can affect the brain directly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Various studies have seemed to indicate some sensitivity. Most studies have not. However, some of the major studies had flaws such as only testing for a few minutes per subject.
Lots of low incidence problems are often put off as in people's heads until a way is discovered to objectively measure the problem (such as the ATP cycle for chronic fatigue).
I'd look into bad power supplies and other noise creators first but I'm not discounting the possibility it could be electrical fields.
We run on electricity.
http://blog.brainfacts.org/201...
So it's not crazy to think electric fields could interfere with some individuals personal electric fields.
Fortunately, I'm not one.
Add more salt. The d20's from the 80s should not be very dense.
The original TSR dice were practically just air.
I think licenses, regular inspections, and tracking the girl/boy's finance would do much more to cut human trafficking/sex slavery.
Relatively inexpensive, safe, legal prostitution would reduce demand for illegal, less safe, expensive prostitution enormously.
Perfectly even distribution is one factor. However, a more important factor was that you had improbable streaks that fit with the statistical model.
If you ask a human to simulate flipping a coin a hundred times, their biggest problem is not distribution but the inability to put in a streaks of 7 or more of the same face.
The one time I went to vegas to try gambling, the roulette wheel got 13 reds in a row. By the time it finally spun black, there was a large crowd observing it even tho it was a low stakes table ($1000 I think). I read later that statistically it happens multiple times a day in vegas every day.
It's kinda entertaining.
you make up a strong brine. You put the dice into the brine. with a few taps you can tell if a dice is strongly unfair because it will keep floating back to the same number or edge when tapped down into the water.
Plus it makes cool salt crystals as it dries.
I have an unfair d20. But it's odd. On multiple occasions it's rolled four 20's in a roll. Very improbably. Yet some evening's it rolls no 20s. When I salt test it, it consistently floats to the edge between 10 and 12 so it's definitely unfair but it's still streaky.
Since I first ran some games at conventions for him back in the 80s!
Dice have always been a passion for him.
The point of "early" 1914 was that by "mid" 1914 we had a horrific world war going on with massacres, huge numbers of death, and not long after that a worldwide plague that killed tens of millions of people.
Things are fine now... in "late" 2015. By "late" 2016, things could go all to hell and we could have billions dead. Things are 'so far so good".
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On the food intolerance--
http://www.kitchenstewardship....
400% increase.
We process food differently- we sneak gluten into everything (mostly to save a few cents). People who get diarhea, who bleed, who lose villie, and who die from this must be the most incredible hypochodriacs ever. I have one friend who's entire skin (inside and out) peels when she gets exposed to the low levels in grain based vodka.
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It gets cheaper all the time to work with diseases. A well designed disease which had a high infection rate but a slower mortality period would spread widely before it started killing people.
Low probably but catastrophic results.
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The automation thing is different. Over half the population literally won't be able to work as well as a machine. Lots of luddites died homeless of exposure (and were killed when they turned violent when they lost hope of fair treatment). Picture that on a much larger scale. As in over 50% of the world's population being unable to trade labor for food and shelter.
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On the fruit and vegetable thing... we have artificial estrogens causing young girls to start their periods at 9 and meanwhile male fertility has dropped by 95% in the last 100 years almost entirely due to environmental toxins. Likewise, many of the fruits would be unrecognizable as they are mostly cellulose to make it easier to ship them and to extend their shelf life. "real" fruits and vegetables are prohibitively expensive for most. Many people survive on a diet of empty calories since they can't afford the real stuff.
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A financial panic is going to have a larger impact because the amount of world resources impacted will be larger. The number of people affected will be an order of magnitude greater. Recovering will take much longer than previously. It's 'good until if fails and then it's really bad". Things are much more brittle than they used to be. It's cheaper until you get a crisis and then you have no food on the shelves for a week (and no gasoline to leave the area) and no option to obtain food.
We really are sort of riding the chaotic wave these days. It is better in many ways- but it's much more brittle than it used to be. Redundancy has been removed from the system. It's like appliances. My A/C is 32 years old. A capacitor went out two years ago. The repairman said, "This is 20 years old. The new one I put in, will not last over 5 years. Also, if you get a new A/C unit, it won't last over 10 years. Probably 7."
Things were great in early 1914 too.
* We've lost privacy.
* We've lost 12 minutes per hour of our entertainment to advertising.
* The quality of fruits and vegetables are down for most people.
* There's a growing set of food intolerance diseases- most likely due to issues with the food.
* If we have another widespread war- it's going to be fast and horrific compared earlier wars.
* If we have another financial panic get thru- it's going to be worse than the great depression.
* If a terrorist group gets hold of increasingly cheap bioweapons, it could end human civilization.
* If automation proceeds as expected- our current economic system breaks down as over half the population loses the ability to trade their time and labor for products.
A lot of plates are spinning. We might pull it off. Or things could fall apart astonishingly fast.
We could have had a war break out with Russia just last week via Turkey. And we would have been pulled into it by treaties- just as happened in world war one.
Generally- I agree we are doing better- but things are much more "brittle" than they used to be. We've reduced redundancy and if things go badly over a large area, it will impact ability to get food and power to a lot more people.
So... as the guy falling past the 6th floor window said.... "So far so good!"
Brake fluid is clear to brown and slick (in my car it's clear).
Power steering is reddish or light brown and thin (in my car it is reddish).
Transmission fluid is reddish or magenta and smells sweet
Oil is amber.
I tell the service rep what happened before and that I'll be checking before I leave the lot. (this is the most important part)
When done, I get the service rep and we pop the hood and check each of the fluids to make sure they look/smell/feel right (this is less important since the car is probably screwed at this point anyway).
http://www.agcoauto.com/conten...
"They design the rubber used in the braking system for high pressure sealing. Manufacturers also design this type of rubber for use only with brake fluid. Severe damage results from even the smallest amount of petroleum-based fluid added to the brake system. Oil-based fluid causes the rubber in the braking system to swell and very rapidly deteriorate.
The most common mistake is adding power steering fluid to the brakes*
power steering fluid will swell and deteriorate brake seals
Power steering fluid contamination will cause seals to immediately begin swelling. As the seals swell, they move forward and block the passages that allow the brake system to function. One example is the return ports in the brake master-cylinder. The swollen seal blocks this port and the return of fluid to the reservoir, when we release the brake pedal. "
* this is what happened to me.
Speaking seriously... anything smaller than an "H" cup gets about the same reaction from me. I'm more about the ratio of hips to midriff.
However, "H" cup on up do prompt an automatic reaction.
It was late. I was slapping out a fast and lose response.
Don't loose your cool over a grammar nit.
Well I was going to let it be since someone else who also didn't get the joke down moderated.
But since I got multiple responses while down modded...
It was a joke.
Playing on the idea that the ability to see A cup porn stars is a critical aspect of having a high quality life.
One dead frog at your service*
*This is an idiomatic expression. It refers to having to explain a joke. I am not literally killing a frog.
it gets better (or worse) with anime (on netflix at least).
the words being spoken and the captions are so different as to be two different scripts for the same visuals. The two are wildly disparate at times.
I think they use machine translation to provide the script for one or the other.
My "genuine dealer service" accidentally put power steering fluid into my brake system ruining it.
At first they were going to fix it but once it went north of $3000, they balked and said a prior maintenance 7,000 miles previously might have put the fluid in (since i came to them for the one 3,500 miles before).
In the end, they gave me a verifiably good deal on a replacement new car when I pointed out they could fix the car for almost "free" since it was mostly labor.
Since then, I always tell the service tech this happened on a prior visit before they start and I always check the fluids before I leave the lot.
But there is nothing magical about a particular mechanic.
I agree on the warranty. Now that I've retired I will probably be exiting 'new car land' in another 5 years and be in the land of used cars again.
I did that ... and the modem didn't work.
The tech came out. Said it was factory dead on arrival.
And the fuckers charged me $50 for a tech visit.
After I had picked up the modem, installed it myself, and the modem was dead because it was defective.
They charged me $50 dollars.
Alleged...
http://dictionary.reference.co...
I'm sorry. It was boldfaced otherwise I would have kept my trap shut.
I otherwise agree strongly with your point.
Assertions of violation should come with a cost when they are wrong.
You can still buy the "less expensive" incandescent bulbs that are actually much more expensive than LED's now (plus the risk of changing high lights on a ladder every 9 months.
Did you read the parent post? This is a case of buyers who want to buy electric... who walk in prepared to buy electric... and the sales people steer or even actively push the buyer away from electric. Mainly- again from the article- because the electric car will cost the buyer LESS money on maintenance.
You can bet the dealerships have set up commission structure to encourage sales of gasoline cars too.
Electric cars don't make as much sense as they did in 2014 with oil breaking $40 a barrel. But in 2-3 years oil is going to scream back up to over $100 (inflation adjusted) a barrel (it's done it twice before) and electric cars will be almost free to buy then when you consider improvements in battery life and capacity combined with an average $16,000 gasoline savings vs an average $1600 electricity cost. Plus another $4,000 in reduced maintenance costs.
The gas car is the "less expensive" bulb that breaks down and requires more maintenance AND burns 10x the energy that that the "more expensive" bubls do.
Most LED bulbs (now at $4.98) pay for themselves in 3 months now. The rest is free money from reduced energy bills.