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Mother Blames Wi-Fi Allergy For Daughter's Suicide (telegraph.co.uk)
An anonymous reader sends news that a UK woman named Debra Fry has begun a campaign to raise awareness for "electro-hypersensitivity" (EHS) after the suicide of her daughter, Jenny, earlier this year. Fry says her daughter was allergic to Wi-Fi, and blames Jenny's school for not removing wireless routers and other networking equipment. A 2005 report from the World Health Organization said, "EHS has no clear diagnostic criteria and there is no scientific basis to link EHS symptoms to EMF exposure. Further, EHS is not a medical diagnosis, nor is it clear that it represents a single medical problem." School officials were firm in declining to remove the equipment without solid evidence supporting Fry's claims. A public health official said, "The overall scientific evidence does not support the suggestion that such exposure causes acute symptoms or that some people are able to detect radiofrequency fields. Nevertheless effective treatments need to be found for these symptoms."
Dumb ass bitch
Tin foil hat.
Funny how reality and fiction sometimes intersect, seems like a tragic episode of Better Call Saul, where Jimmy's brother has electromagnetic hypersensitivity.. Is this even such a thing.. .curious
Sad story, a mothers crazy notions about what was causing her daughters illness, leads daughter to assume its true. Kids trust their parents about these things. There is very little difference between a real medical condition and one you believe you are having. The school though, should have looked into getting both of them psychological help.
>> The overall scientific evidence does not support the suggestion that such exposure causes acute symptoms or that some people are able to detect radiofrequency fields.
OK, I'm with you there.
>> Nevertheless effective treatments need to be found for these symptoms.
Now you lost me. So there's no link to reality, but we need to make accommodations and pay benefits (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/09/04/woman-wins-disability-payments-for-wi-fi-allergy.html) anyway because people possess a belief?
If you really need a treatment, how about a nice backhand slap to the face?
How about a tin foil hat.
Daughter kills herself, mother wants to blame everyone but herself.
If the mother really believed in the condition, why wasn't she home schooling the daughter after the school refused to remove the equipment on a whim? Also, what the hell did they do about their neighbours etc and why did the daughter have a mobile phone?! Did the creators of the 802.11 spec magically choose the single frequency that affected this girl, among all the billions of others?
Is this some bullshit from The Onion?
Better Call Saul!
Whenever my WiFi goes down I feel sad and depressed.
still (not) missing their hymens they continue to share their bananas & honor ms. monkey to a fault... advanced is an understatement?
Apparently the poor teen did not have mobile phone then either?
Jenny Fry, 15, was found in woodland near her home in Chadlington, on June 11 this year after texting a friend telling her she would not be going to school and intended to kill herself. ...apparently she did.
No, it has to be the Wi-Fi. It couldn't possibly have been the fact that the mother was a psychotic idiot who made her daughters life a living hell.
It's called a psychiatrist.
captcha: mental (seriously)
I mean, if it WAS a wifi allergy, then this girl has taken herself out of the gene pool and will help stop the propagation of this condition, if it exists.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Please see "Why Some People Think Total Nonsense Is Really Deep", just a few posts back.
are wifi allergies this decades morgellans?
lose != loose
"effective treatments need to be found for these symptoms."
What do they do for other hypochondriacs?
Nevertheless effective treatments need to be found for these symptoms.
The best treatment is a series of physics classes.
The relevant understanding is accessible to anyone at about the 9th grade level.
Sadly, it seems that we do not require students to understand the basics of physics, which leaves them unable to comprehend the world around them, leading to irrational belief systems that become entrenched over time and eventually almost impossible to fix.
It is very said this girl committed suicide. It sounds to me like the Mother is at fault for not pushing to get psychological help for her daughter after no physical medical explanation was available. This is a huge problem for countries as we all want to think we're not crazy. Awareness needs to be raised for proper mental health screening of all people, and to remove the separation of mental and physical health access during diagnosis. It's sad the mother doesn't comprehend that her daughter had a mental problem, and still refuses to.
Effective treatments (in some people) are available for delusions. I think that's what they were referring to, without explicitly saying that the mother (or daughter, or both) had some form of illness.
People have all manner of beliefs that interfere with daily life, and many are treatable. Agoraphobia is one notable one. Another one is that there are people who are unable to fly on airplanes, and they readily admit it is an irrational thing, but it doesn't change the severity or reality of the problem.
Sadly, this mother should have had invested in a tin hat. She should have also removed all cellular phones form the house, wrapped it in a Faraday cage, and removed any televisions, vacuum cleaners, microwave ovens, computers, really anything with an inductor. In addition I would suggest that she consider joining an Amish community. I won't argue with her that large amounts of electro-magnetic energy can not affect the brain. However to call it an allergy, where the body attacks itself due to an external irritant seems a bit far fetched. I think she would have a stronger case to say that her daughters brain formed a mutation or had a neurological pathway blocked in someway due to EMF to cause severe depression.
There is or can be built a machine that can simulate any physical object. -Church-Turing principle
Despite there being no supporting evidence, this seems to be a favourite thing to blame at the moment. And while it's easy to disregard this as nonsense we have a woman who is clearly upset over losing her daughter. Perhaps there is not a shred of scientific evidence over WiFi being a cause but there was obviously something very real causing her daughter distress and she would be better campaigning for _that_ to be properly investigated.
Yet the article says she texted friends. A cell phone is much more powerful than wifi...
Sad. But probably not caused by wifi.
Because the daughter obviously has precedent of mental illness in her immediate family.
Someone in my extended family had severe bipolar disorder which included hallucinations. As she became better medicated, she tried her best to grasp the difference between reality and what was going on in her bastard brain. Know what didn't help, though? Her mother upholding the belief that she had some sort of mystical connection to spirits. I couldn't give a fuck whether people have woowoo beliefs, but surely even someone engaged in woowoo understands that it is possible to be mentally ill, and for any hallucinations to be completely and merely the product of a faulty brain? God damn fucking "I want to believe" wins out every time, though, doesn't it?
Anyway, this wonderful person died by suicide last year. It wasn't BECAUSE of the above, as suicide is a complex fucking thing and it's extremely rare that one person's action/inaction is to blame for what is essentially a fatal symptom of an illness. But it didn't help.
Am I the only one flashing back to Pat Pulling and the whole "Dungeons & Dragons is evil and causes suicide" bullshit? When Pat Pulling's claims of D&D suicides was researched it was found that in most of the cases she cited, no death occurred, and in some cases, they were fictional people.
In fact, of the actual suicides that could be identified, there was a far closer correlation between having parents who were religious wingnuts any reasonable person would rather die than live with than with playing D&D.
Silly liberal demoncrap womyn is so crazy her daughter kills herself, silly liberal demoncrap womyn doubles down on the anti-science leftist catshit - story at 10.
Seriously though, liberal demoncraps are probably just happy a white person died. They are truly the party of hate.
The mother is a nut and the kid killed herself to get away from her...
Even if the allergies are true, there's no reason why the school schould remove all wireless devices. Some people have a water allergy, should we also remove all water pipes from schools?
Did anyone else notice how that "other networking equipment" showed up in the list of demands?
I wonder when these people will demand the switch-off of the power grid to address the "electro" part of their sickness.
There is/was an 802.11D. The D doesn't appear to refer to Death.
... where people think common, everyday contrails are the government spraying all of North America with chemicals, why should anyone be surprised when someone believes more BS?
The truly tragic part is that whatever this girl had, it wouldn't have been treated had you put her inside a Faraday Cage.
You know, maybe I should develop a portable Faraday Cage. It would need to be collapsible and a little larger than a person sitting when deployed. Then, when deployed, it would cover a person sitting in their seat, with special arm holes.
I could make a mint off the tinfoil hat types.
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> "I did some research and found how dangerous Wi-Fi could be"
No no no no no no...
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This article all but proves that wi-fi or some supposed wi-fi allergy had nothing to do with this. From the article:
"Jenny’s mother, Debra Fry, said her daughter suffered with tiredness, headaches and bladder problems as a direct result of wireless internet connections at Chipping Norton School. "
All three of those symptoms are also well-known symptoms of depression: the tiredness caused by the loss of energy and changes in sleep from the depression itself, and the headaches and bladder problems probably caused by malnutrition due to changes in diet caused by depression. I'm honestly surprised the article didn't interview a psychiatrist about this, because I can guarantee any psychiatrist worth their title would tell them that all of these things are signs of depression and that the mother should have gotten help right away.
What it makes me wonder is if the mother did go to a doctor who told her that the symptoms were caused by a "wi-fi allergy" or if she simply deluded herself into thinking it because she didn't want to admit that her daughter had depression. In either case, someone should probably be charged with murder.
The kid had Crazy Parents Syndrome (CPS) and so she killed herself. See, it's a real medical condition because I gave it a TLA.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
This bitch is really triggering my bullshit sensitivity.
But I do have a couple errant thoughts on the matter.
Consider a little town in Texas who's name I cannot recall (talking population in the hundreds). A wireless carrier decided this was a strategic place to build a tower. The townspeople made quite a row about believing it would impact their health. All the same, the tower went up. Upon completion, a percent of the town's population "fell very ill". This quickly proceeded to become a substantial percentage of the town's population. A lawsuit was prepared.However, before it got anywhere the townspeople got clued in by the carrier on a fun little fact: the tower went up but was never turned on. The health of the townspeople returned to normal. Oops.
I have talked to people over the years that insist on sensitivity to electromagnetic waves. For the longest time I scoffed at the notion without a second thought. Consider that this has been the case for many diseases over time, most notably and recently Fibromyalgia was considered to be all in the heads of its suffers. Now it is not only established as being real, but treatments have even been developed for it. I was on board with it being psychological. Oops.
Consider further that now, just as when it was considered to be non-existent outside of the imagination, there are in fact legions of people who read about the symptoms, and decide they have the symptoms when in fact it really is just in their heads. This would have lent to it not being taken seriously in the first place.
Okay, let's go one step further. Consider that we are pumping more and more radio waves of increasingly varied spectrum through pretty much anything that want stop them cold. Consider that exposing the environment and consequently ourselves to all of this is a first in human evolution.
Also, we do have properties of an antennae. I am not saying this does not wreak of bullshit, but whether or not there are at all any consequences of any type to anything is something that should be under the constant scrutiny of objective science as the number of and reach of emf continues to grow.
I am not trying to push a conclusion here, because I do not have one... just saying.
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Would be a shame if places started giving into these silly people and their demands (removing wifi), wifi has done lots of good for schools in my opinion, and Ethernet isn't exactly practical in the average classroom.
>Nevertheless effective treatments need to be found for these symptoms.
Zoloft.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
It would seem to be the case that elaborating a double-blind test protocol to verify whether or not there is anything to WiFi sensitivity is a straightforward undertaking. In fact, this has been done a few times already, the conclusion always being the same: test subjects can't tell whether or not WiFi equipment is turned on in their immediate vicinity with an accuracy better than expected on purely statistical grounds. I.e. they are not better at that than a coin toss. I.e. theirs is a hysterical reaction. Ergo there is a controversy only if you, like this woman, choose to ignore science when its conclusions are not convenient.
Some people worried about living near a high voltage overhead transmission power line- electrostatic fields, RF, and magnetic. Studies generally discounted this, but doubts persist.
For example, every time I see or hear Donald Trump, or hear about his standing in polls, I experience waves of nausea, get headaches, become irritable, and have troubles thinking anything other than 'dark' thoughts.
I know a lot of people who have the same allergic reaction, and I think it's only fair that we make the US a Donald Trump free zone, to end this sort of suffering.
Not that I think any of this is likely, but sufferers should be able to relieve their physical or psychosomatic symptoms by dressing up in a Faraday cage. Don't see any harm if they feel better and don't demand the rest of the world go back to stone age.
* Open to possibility that people with various metal implants in their body would be actually sensitive.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Home school your child if you think the school environment is harmful to them. Personally, I think the problem was psychosomatic, but it is still your right to teach your child yourself. If you didn't then perhaps it is YOUR fault, not the schools, that your daughter committed suicide...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Hertz not to know, doesn't it?
I feel homicidal when my internet connection goes out. If I kill somebody, can I claim that the WiFi made me do it?
I believe she suffered from VanMunchausen's By Proxy. Radio frequency energy is inescapable, as a parents with technophobia.
My dad spent much of his career working next to a 50,000 watt AM radio transmitter. He would hold a fluorescent light near the transmission lines going out to the antenna array and it would light up in mid air. Neither he nor any of his colleagues experienced any ill effects including higher cancer rates. Granted, this is much lower frequency than wifi, which can potentially be ionizing. Based on this direct personal experience though fear of RF is largely irrational.
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It's cool to be an idiot! Never before has there ever been a time that we celebrated idiocy and ignorance as we do today.
Remember the good ol' days? You know, after the war was over. Who were our heroes? Astronauts. And aside of the priests, the medical scientists, doctors, they were the revered people. For they bring us the cure. From polio. And diphteria. And all the other diseases that our ancestors feared and we now can laugh in the face of, for medicine has triumphed supreme over the germs! And the scientists that bring us the power of the atom, a dangerous force to be reckoned with, but safe in the hand of those who learned to harness its unruly powers to give us electricity.
And now compare that with today. People throw their money at "miracle cures" like before the FDA, distrusting medical science. The problem here is not that they are questioning science. Questioning is a good thing, blind trust and faith has been misplaced too many times, and the core of science is doubting and testing what is established to come to more understanding. But they don't want understanding. They want to disbelieve. Because that's what it has turned to. It's no longer about what is real. It's about what you "believe". Have you heard this before? "Oh, I don't believe in science". Or medicine. Or technology. As if it had anything to do with faith.
Instead these imbeciles and dimwits turn to promises of some miracle cure that offers NO proof or evidence whatsoever, aside of some anecdotes of people who took it, didn't outright die and then felt better (when the effects of the "cure" wore off, most of the time, actually). And that's their "proof" that this is far better than the real medicine. Why? Well, because it's only been done 'cause big pharma wants money.
Questioned why they think that the quack selling them the miracle cure for a markup of roughly 10,000% isn't in it PURELY for the money with no regard whatsoever for their health, such people get either defensive or offensive. Most of the time, both.
What the fuck happened here? When did we turn into an anti-scientific society?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
"That would be unethical, both because you're hawking fraudulent tests, but also because you're encouraging people to believe that their delusion is accepted ..."
Priests have no problem with such a deception.
There's a huge difference between being deliberately deceptive, and spreading a belief that you yourself devoutly believe in, that happens to also be false.
And if you seriously believe that more than a tiny fraction of priests don't believe in the religion they preach (to the extent that it would be fair to call them deliberately deceptive) then you're an idiot, and probably waaaay too angry at the world in general.
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That is a logical and well thought out test. It is completely rational. And it would be completely useless in dealing with irrational and illogical crackpots.
Sure, the child could have been tested and that would have shown a complete lack of hypersensitivity to WiFi. But that isn't the answer that the parents wanted and was not one they would accept. They would have always come up with reasons that the test "failed". Perhaps by limiting exposure to short time segments with segments of no WiFi between them the child was not exposed to enough WiFi to detect. Of maybe, if done in a well shielded environment she was protected from other RF sources that contribute to the problem. Or, if not well enough shielded, other Rf and WiFi signals were a contributing factor. And since that child is magically hypersensitive to RF then well enough shielding may not be adequately determined by mere physical instruments.
Yes, the parent had an opportunity to prove the sensitivity when the child was alive and failed to do so, and it can not be proven now. But in their sick minds they will claim that it can't be proven that the child wasn't hypersensitive either, so they are entitled to lots of money from lots of people.
It is like trying to have a logical discussion about religion with religious crackpots. Oh not your one true religion, of course, but with any of those other believers of crackpot religions.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Fry says her daughter was allergic to Wi-Fi, and blames Jenny's school for not removing wireless routers and other networking equipment
This is a no brainer. If your school is doing something that you think is killing your child, take your child out of school and homeschool her. People do so for much, much less than this, and there are many other benefits, and I completely disagree with you, but if this is how you feel, homeschooling is the obvious choice to make.
No way would I allow a school to make a decision that I felt was killing or hurting my child. Homeschooling is legal in all 50 states and your child can get a great education even if you yourself are not capable of teaching them.
Of course, I completely disagree with the idea that wi-fi sensitivity exists...
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Yup, to do something as unethical as that you would have to call yourself a Priest or Reverend.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Actually you make a pretty good point. While I wouldn't say any of them are causing me pain, I've definitely suffered a lot of annoyance from cheap power supplies or bricks. These often emit a high-frequency whine that many people can't hear.
Now, generally the commercial stuff is a bit better, but if they're using cheap wifi routers in the classrooms etc then it's possible that they had a noisy brick of two. Doubtable that it would drive somebody to suicide though, and if she heard it others of her age should have as well.
True story, we had a wrongful termination case brought against us in unemployment court from a staffer who had admitted / confessed, on voice mail, to stealing the company truck (he apologized and said he was on crack and was going into rehab). But he changed his mind and sued for wrongful termination. The judge did not let us play the tape, or even state what he had said on the answering machine. The employee then went on to say that we had forced him to unload used "ewaste" computers from a hospital which, he said, exposed him to computer virus. That testimony was allowed... The judge was a former state employee association lawyer, btw.
I don't believe in the wide-scale FUD Luddite-ism here, but . . . It is already conclusively shown that very strong EM fields can affect people's emotions, sway people to tell the truth, or have other mental effects. Multiple reports have been posted here on Slashdot. We assume that weak fields and signals don't bother people; but could some individuals be particularly susceptible, and would we be able to test for this susceptibility? It used to be only big cities with lots of broadcasting that had noticeable EM levels; now every household has multiple radio transmitters, some of them being carried in people's pockets. There was a science fiction story years ago about someone purporting to prove that telepathy is nonsense by making a machine that should block mental interaction effect, and when the machine gets turned on everyone goes nuts because it (presumably) even interfered with their brains talking to themselves. Would we even know if we were doing such a thing at a low level, akin to having loud noises in the background all the time?
...well made tin foil hat wouldn't have fixed.
I think there is some truth to that. Many researchers are claiming there are incompletely-studied health risks associated with cell towers, even though there is a disturbing lack of objectivity surrounding it, with most critics saying something like "you can't really be so stupid as to believe that?" (much like with global warming, actually)
I seem to recall about 15 years ago reading an article about how there was research into using cellular tower microwaves to effect a positive mood elevating effect on people living near them. I can't find a reference now but I'm pretty sure it was in my local paper and came from something like Reuters or the AP.
I see a whole lot of you making comments basically saying that this is all imagination and can't possibly be true. Most people are NOT allergic to peanuts but some people are and eating peanuts can and do have a very bad effect on these people. It could very well be that a very small percentage of the population are allergic to WIFI. We should not be so quick to claim that the 0.01% who perhaps are affected are imagining it just because 99.9% of us don't notice anything.
Do I know if these people are "making it up" or actually do suffer because of WIFI signals? No. I don't. But I do keep an open mind.
It is interesting to note that the World Health Organization (WHO) has classified as a "potential carcinogen".
One last point: When people complain about the dangers of WIFI I always remind them that the power output of a typical mobile phone for GSM/LTE communications is MUCH higher than the power output for the WIFI radio. WIFI usually outputs something like 10 to 20mW. GSM 850/900 devices can typically can do a maximum of 2 watts (not milliwatt!) and 1W for GSM 1800/1900. Perhaps you could get your local school to turn their WIFI off but good luck turning GSM off in your local area.
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Something something pseudo-profound bullshit.
Perhaps your friend himself is the cause. He's absorbed so much hammy-ness over the years, that he projects it out on arrival.
Cynicism leads to narrow mindedness, which kills intelligence. ... but not electro magnetic fields.
Regardless of that woman's belief, what surprises me is that the vast majority of people on this forum can believe chemicals, light and sounds can interfere with our body functions
but could some individuals be particularly susceptible,
No.
...and would we be able to test for this susceptibility?
Yes. We did. They aren't.
Multiple separate double-blind studies have been conducted. No one is sensitive to WiFi. People who claim sensitivity will develop symptoms when sitting next to a WiFi access point that has NO connected radios, as long as the power LED is on. The LED is on, they have symptoms. Turn off the LED, no symptoms. It also works with a WiFi access point that has connected radios. Turn on the radios and the LED, they have symptoms. Turn off the LED, leave the radios on, they don't have symptoms. It's 100% psychosomatic.
It's now standard operating procedure whenever a new cellular tower is built to leave the final antenna connections completely disconnected for several weeks. After the now inevitable spate of complaints and lawsuits, the tower is shown to have no power at all. The lawsuits are dismissed, the tower is connected, and no one in the area ever knows when it's actually powered up or not, because it doesn't have an LED on it. So symptoms go away.
Basically, it's when someone erroneously believes that wifi signals are dangerous and they freak out about it. Like this woman.
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Wow the Wifi sure is strong in here, brb gotta piss.
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I do seriously believe that more than a tiny fraction of priests don't believe in the religion they preach and I am not an idiot. Are you a child? Why would you stoop to this level? You would generalize us as idiots, then say we're the angry ones?
I believe most of the non-believing priests may believe they're doing more good by being deliberately deceptive than not, perhaps because of the imagined authority their council affords them to others. I would disagree with them on this, believing the harm they're doing perpetuating a dangerous fantasy outweighs any good they accomplish, but that is largely irrelevant at the moment.
What is relevant is how you would discern enough true believers from false ones, in a somehow representative sample of priests, in order to have any real clue what percentage of priests are true and what percentage are not. Where is your Shibboleth test for this? Where is your knowing?
I'll freely admit I could be wrong in how many there are, but that doesn't automatically make me wrong. We don't know, and unlike God, I'm not asking you to swallow the birth of the universe as a tale told by a 2,000-year-old goat fucker. Evidence is what we need for both sides of what percentage of priests are false.
In the meantime, let's forgo the grade school insults. Deal?
No joking, there is a tendency for mental health disorders to run in families. Not just genetic or hereditary issues, some aspects are environmental. If the parents have disorders, there is a high probability that the children will have disorders.
Sadly, some folks don't know what "normal" is, and manage to function with their disorders, thinking that they are "normal". And the kids grow up thinking that what they are experiencing is normal. And so on, and so on. Until someone realizes everything is broken and crashes, hurting or killing themselves to get out of the cycle.
I hope this mom gets some help.
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>> The LED is on, they have symptoms. Turn off the LED, no symptoms. ... It's 100% psychosomatic.
Really? to me it looks clear that they're actually allergic to lit LEDs.
This article further supports that it's nothing but mental illness.
There's a town full of these sufferers in Green Bank, WV, near the radio telescope. These people are actually bringing their cell phones and even run MICROWAVE OVENS and none of them feel any "allergies" to them. Microwave ovens are almost the same frequency as WiFi is.
It's mental illness.
Not to mention they are polluting the clear airwaves required for operating the telescope.
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"Jenny, earlier this year. Fry says her daughter was allergic to Wi-Fi, and blames Jenny's school for not removing wireless routers and other networking equipment"
Why should everyone else "suffer" for her daughter?
Perhaps she should have moved to the woods and homeschooled.
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Exactly why you don't show the individuals the proof. Instead, like parent poster said, humor them and let them go through test themselves so that they can *witness* this truth.
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I predict that the most effective treatment for EHS will be bupropion (Welbutrin).
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but could some individuals be particularly susceptible,
No.
There are average humans, and then there are professional athletes, and then there are Michael Jordan and Wayne Gretzky and Cy Young who set enduring records. Can we test for those exceptional abilities *objectively*, rather than in competition (which introduces a dependency on the quality and nature of the competition)? No. Can we know in advance which individual has those exceptional abilities? Also no. I submit that this is the exact same case, on the other end, of some individuals being particularly susceptible. Maybe some people's neurons just happen to be an exact number of wavelengths long, totally random and totally within the bell curve of "normal variation", and maybe there have been people with the exact same situation throughout the history of the human race - except none of them were living in dense broadcasting on AM and FM and wifi bands. Hell, some people in the same family sunburn faster than their siblings - they're more susceptible to EM radiation in the ultraviolet.
:-)
If EM radiation affected someone like constantly living under brighter sunlight (and burning), or like constantly living with loud random noise (which might affect people's concentration and communication), HOW WOULD WE KNOW? Autism is ridiculously higher than ever in history; are those people all getting constant stimulation directly at the optic or aural nerve endings so they are always disrupted? HOW WOULD WE KNOW FOR SURE? Yes, most of the complaints are nonsense, but if we are engineers and scientists we should measure and test before discarding valid reports with the nonsense. Maybe some people really DO need tinfoil hats.
Which has hinged pretty much on a single parent of a child that committed suicide months after taking some.
But "drug" hysteria is always given more credence than tech hysteria.
Obviously people like to joke, many of the comments are funny. But electrical signals in the air do have an effect on human cells. Is everyone the same? No. So therefore, it's still very plausible. These people making jokes are probably the same idiots that believe mold doesn't affect humans and that's why there's no federal laws in the USA about mold exposure. (yes, the jokes on you)
Yes, most of the complaints are nonsense, but if we are engineers and scientists we should measure and test before discarding valid reports with the nonsense.
Nearly my entire post described exactly such testing. If testing the people who claim they have the "disorder" isn't sufficient, what more can be done? Random testing of the entire population? That seems particularly pointless.
The biggest problem with all of these complaints is there is no physical basis for them. We already know that AM, FM, and wifi bands do not affect anybody's optic or aural nerves. This has been definitively proven with invasive surgery (attempting to correct blindness and deafness) and extremely sensitive instruments attached directly to nerves, not to mention repeated exposure experiments, some of them military. The human body is completely transparent to AM and FM frequencies. They go right through you. Water molecules in the human body can absorb wifi frequencies, and we know precisely what they cause. They make the water molecule vibrate a tiny bit faster, contributing to heating. There are no other effects distinguishable from heating. For the energies used by wifi, sitting in front of a space heater is thousands of times "worse" for you, if getting warmer can be considered worse. For cell phone frequencies, you don't even get that. The human body is transparent to them too.
Here's why:
To have a physiological effect, the energy of the radiation must be absorbed. To be absorbed, there must be quantum energy level pairs which match the photon energy of the radiation. If these energy level pairs are not available in a given frequency range, then the material will be transparent to that radiation.
The physics of the electromagnetic spectrum as it relates to objects is extremely well understood, right down to the quantum mechanics. Your nice white LED backlight on your monitor wouldn't work if it wasn't. Your nice AMOLED phone display wouldn't exist either. These things are really really well understood. And humans are either transparent to the spectrums they're complaining about, or less affected by them than shivering.
Human beings can detect static magnetic fields (not changing). This has been known since the '70s.
The human neural system is partly electronic, the nerves are not just chemical.
Some people claim to be able to detect RF, but the scientific tests are not in the literature. The tests for the static magnetic fields are... why?
Just because a superstitious person believes something, does not necessarily make it false.
I'm an electronics engineer and I know what's what. 8-)
I have a cellphone, but I turn it off when in known "shadow" areas and never touch it to my face.
I don't have any WiFi transceivers in my house.
check the white blood cell count. otherwise - it isn't an allergy.
Will they develop a cure for Idiot Mother Syndrome (IMS)???
The solution is to wrap all your electronics in tinfoil. Tin foil is very good at blocking all wifi and mobile signals.
To protect your own child, simply wrap the child in tin foil.
I've noticed that most of the comments here assume that this isn't real. However, I actually was friends with an individual in engineering school who suffered from this, he got acute headaches from being around wifi. There was nothing psychologically wrong with him, no reason to think that he was faking. Based on this experience and reports like this I'm inclined to think that this is a real thing that just impacts a very small part of the population.
Basically part of the plot of the Breaking Bad spin-off where Saul's Uncle has this condition. So at least I know for sure someone other than me watched that show!
Mother tries to find meaning in that death. Comes to wrong but comforting conclusion.
It's not a proper psychiatric diagnosis, but it already has more plausibility than Wi-Fi allergy.
Homeschooling is legal in the UK and as a parent I would opt for that if the well-being of my child is in danger. And what is so special about the WiFi frequency range compared to many other sources of RF? I do not want to dismiss the pain of the loss of her child, but Fry has really no case here.