No, no, no, a thousand times no. I live in a very rural southern area full of some of the most conservative Christians you'll ever meet. About 95% of people I've conversed with on the subject think he's a complete moron. I am not, honestly, sure why he's so popular, unless it's just America's love of the sensational. If there's one thing I can glean from flipping through popular TV stations for 5 minutes, it's that the amount of stupid seems to be directly proportional to the ratings...
Or perhaps the author was trying to make the article a little more reader-friendly. Kelvin would mean nothing to the average Joe, but F or C does, and they aren't so hot on conversions. Whereas a scientific-minded person has no trouble converting to a format they understand (although, apparently, not without complaining).;)
I did too, actually. If for nothing else, to show that they can be creative, too. Although really, I'm waiting for them to address all the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercials that Apple has come out with. Some have been pretty harsh, but Microsoft's hardly addressed them.
I think you're right... I have been interested in politics for as long as I can remember. I was one of the kids who enjoyed listening to the speeches on the news and even watched C-Span a couple of times. I didn't understand some things, which led me to look up words, even research topics. It helped me develop a picture of how government works and how my beliefs and values translate into political concepts. I was on the debate team in high school and even got to help out with some campaigns and work the polls a couple of times. I doubt I would have been that interested in the process at high-school age had I not taken an interest when I was younger.
I guess what I'm saying, while we're off on this tangent, is that knowledge and interest in politics doesn't have to translate into worry and fear. (Of course... it inevitably does later, here in the US anyway... but an interest in the process precludes a usefulness in working with the process.)
I still think Bush was speaking on the best intelligence he had at the time, when he said they had the weapons. I also think that any president in office would be receiving the same intelligence. So did he lie? I don't think so. Was he given false information and spoke it as truth without realizing it was incorrect? Possibly. Could it have happened to anybody who was in office? I believe so.
No, I'm not a fan of Bush. I just think people give him TOO hard of a time sometimes.
That last sentence makes a lot of sense, actually. I never quite thought of it that way, although I do believe something similar--that both sides have a little bit of evidence. Not enough to make a leap to that theory proving anything conclusively, but a little. You're right, real science should at least be honest enough to say "we think this idea makes more sense than that one, but we can't prove it either".
I didn't say indecisiveness is a virtue. In fact, I strugged with this for a long time, because I don't believe what one side hands me any more than I believe the other. I've always tried to dig past the popular, hyped ideas and find as close to the truth as I can, which I DO believe is a virtue. And my conclusion is just that there is no way to know beyond the shadow of a doubt. The only thing I know for a fact is that the earth exists, and I'm just going to go forward from there.
Good grief, you sound just like the God-people you criticise so harshly. Listen to yourself! "Believe this and shut up", and getting "rid" of dissenters? You sound like a crazy fundamentalist. Or a ruthless dictator. Either one scares me.
I wish I could mod you up, there are not enough people who believe this way. I've been trying to explain my moderation and disbelief in either of these sides, and getting flamed to death for it. This is even worse than the Microsoft-Apple-Linux battle! God-or-Darwin forbid that someone be able to stand back and find good and bad points from both sides and discuss them rationally! That would be intelligent.
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Not to mention the subject of, say, reproduction. How does that gradually happen, that you go from reproducing asexually to suddenly having a male and female with a fully evolved and developed, simultaneously matured sexual reproduction system? If there's even a relatively tiny gap of time in there, you have no reproduction at all, and therefore the species ceases to exist.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. There are just too many questions that have to be asked of both sides. I can't buy into either one.
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So to summarize your post...
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Do you ever get the feeling that they choose stories and phrase summaries a certain way JUST so we'll have plenty of ways to make jokes about it?
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This flamebait got modded Insightful?
No, no, no, a thousand times no. I live in a very rural southern area full of some of the most conservative Christians you'll ever meet. About 95% of people I've conversed with on the subject think he's a complete moron. I am not, honestly, sure why he's so popular, unless it's just America's love of the sensational. If there's one thing I can glean from flipping through popular TV stations for 5 minutes, it's that the amount of stupid seems to be directly proportional to the ratings...
I'd like to officially ask Mr. Rossy for a review model for Slashdot.
Let's wait and see if it works first...
Ah, you beat me to it!
Nice username.
Or perhaps the author was trying to make the article a little more reader-friendly. Kelvin would mean nothing to the average Joe, but F or C does, and they aren't so hot on conversions. Whereas a scientific-minded person has no trouble converting to a format they understand (although, apparently, not without complaining). ;)
Is it just me, or are there way too many public services already?
I did too, actually. If for nothing else, to show that they can be creative, too. Although really, I'm waiting for them to address all the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercials that Apple has come out with. Some have been pretty harsh, but Microsoft's hardly addressed them.
I vote for a steel cage match!
Oh now look what you've done, now there's spit and coffee all over my keyboard ;)
I think you're right... I have been interested in politics for as long as I can remember. I was one of the kids who enjoyed listening to the speeches on the news and even watched C-Span a couple of times. I didn't understand some things, which led me to look up words, even research topics. It helped me develop a picture of how government works and how my beliefs and values translate into political concepts. I was on the debate team in high school and even got to help out with some campaigns and work the polls a couple of times. I doubt I would have been that interested in the process at high-school age had I not taken an interest when I was younger.
I guess what I'm saying, while we're off on this tangent, is that knowledge and interest in politics doesn't have to translate into worry and fear. (Of course... it inevitably does later, here in the US anyway... but an interest in the process precludes a usefulness in working with the process.)
Yeah, Grimbleton, you fail at failing ;)
If I had mod points, you'd get one. I love analogies, and this one fits perfectly.
and (of course), LOLporn.
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I still think Bush was speaking on the best intelligence he had at the time, when he said they had the weapons. I also think that any president in office would be receiving the same intelligence. So did he lie? I don't think so. Was he given false information and spoke it as truth without realizing it was incorrect? Possibly. Could it have happened to anybody who was in office? I believe so.
No, I'm not a fan of Bush. I just think people give him TOO hard of a time sometimes.
Since when does not picking a side at all get you modded "flamebait" on Slashdot? This is like the twilight zone...
And you might be one of the only ACs who have earned my respect. :)
That last sentence makes a lot of sense, actually. I never quite thought of it that way, although I do believe something similar--that both sides have a little bit of evidence. Not enough to make a leap to that theory proving anything conclusively, but a little. You're right, real science should at least be honest enough to say "we think this idea makes more sense than that one, but we can't prove it either".
I didn't say indecisiveness is a virtue. In fact, I strugged with this for a long time, because I don't believe what one side hands me any more than I believe the other. I've always tried to dig past the popular, hyped ideas and find as close to the truth as I can, which I DO believe is a virtue. And my conclusion is just that there is no way to know beyond the shadow of a doubt. The only thing I know for a fact is that the earth exists, and I'm just going to go forward from there.
If only. We'd be rid of this nonsense already.
Good grief, you sound just like the God-people you criticise so harshly. Listen to yourself! "Believe this and shut up", and getting "rid" of dissenters? You sound like a crazy fundamentalist. Or a ruthless dictator. Either one scares me.
Finally, someone else out there who gets it. I've said over and over that neither side has all the answers. My goodness.
I wish I could mod you up, there are not enough people who believe this way. I've been trying to explain my moderation and disbelief in either of these sides, and getting flamed to death for it. This is even worse than the Microsoft-Apple-Linux battle! God-or-Darwin forbid that someone be able to stand back and find good and bad points from both sides and discuss them rationally! That would be intelligent.
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Not to mention the subject of, say, reproduction. How does that gradually happen, that you go from reproducing asexually to suddenly having a male and female with a fully evolved and developed, simultaneously matured sexual reproduction system? If there's even a relatively tiny gap of time in there, you have no reproduction at all, and therefore the species ceases to exist.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. There are just too many questions that have to be asked of both sides. I can't buy into either one.