I think the rage is more about the over-reaching grab for everything - it's not that they want "Facebook" they want Face{EVERYTHING} (and {EVERYTHING}book) - and these words are often used as part of a larger word or phrase, for example (just some normal words that are in use, let alone "created" words like facebook):
faceplant
face to face
facecloth
facedown
faceless
facelift
facemask
faceplate
faceup
FaceTime - hmm, where's the Apple lawsuit I wonder? - "Getting face time" has been in use long before facebook.
Let's *ace it, *ace is a pretty common word or syllable, and claiming otherwise is a bald-*aced lie. Same with *ook! LittleBlack*ook.com is probably in trouble (given Teach*ook is in court), the GoReadA*ook.org foundation is up *hit creek... and where shall it stop?
I don't get it. How is the server (or the device) supposed to be able to tell the difference between personal data and company data? Here's a file: "Acme Meeting Notes 26 Nov". You tell me if that file is personal or company related. How about a picture, Image034.jpg? How does the server know if that's a picture of someone's kid, or a copy of the blueprint for some device? What if they've just copied 20GB of car part specifications to "/Personal/ReallyNotCompanyStuff/Don'tWipeMe/Music/Dire Straits - Telegraph Rd (15m).mp3"?
The fact is that people can, and do, use smart phones (and other EAS devices) for more than just one thing, and so do the bad guys. The server and the device cannot distinguish between personal items and work items (remember that any implementation that allows a person to tag an item "personal" allows the same thing for a nefarious evildoer is also similarly flawed). So for security's sake, it has to be the whole device, or there's no point removing anything.
Why can't Facebook be a fun, social, time-waster for the people who enjoy it, just like an Xbox or Playstation or kayak or soccer ball or hockey stick or any other "toy" is a fun, social, time-waster for people who enjoy those activities?
It CAN be a "fun, social, time-waster for the people who enjoy it" - I just wish they'd stop trying to force me to enjoy it. You can have it. Really. I choose not to, now stop asking.
Do you try to force people to like your sports? Your games? Your music? No, you might suggest to a friend that they may enjoy it, but you don't stand behind them with a baseball bat screaming "LIKE IT. I LIKE IT YOU HAVE TO LIKE IT TOO. WHY WON'T YOU LIKE IT? IF YOU WON'T LIKE IT I'LL HIT YOU AGAIN!"
Frankly to me, Facebook and it's small group of rabid supporters are the ones screaming at me to want it. I don't care if YOU like it, I don't - and to me it sucks that I can't express this adequately (since you can never permanently guarantee that someone, somewhere won't tag you in a photo or share their address book, and you can't opt out until someone has "suggested" you be opted in).
A LOT of people use Facebook A LOT. They depend on it. Businesses increasingly use it too -- a Facebook page is seen as an essential part of marketing and customer management now. In other words, it's not just a hot social thing; it's an integral part of online life for a large portion of the population. Someone could create a new hot social thing right now that is 10 times better than Facebook, and it would still probably take a long time for it to replace Facebook, because most people are perfectly happy with Facebook, and because you can't change your social network as easily as you can change your search engine. Maybe that's what's really bugging Google.
Hmm. s/Facebook/Second Life/g... yep still makes sense.
Furthermore, destruction of the lock and use of the unlocked chest does not excuse the seller breaking into your house at night and attaching a newer, stronger padlock to the chest, locking you out of it again (OTA updates anyone?) Also, what about the people that bought outright? Are you going to argue that the device suddenly becomes the property of the telco when the person signs up for service?
Actually this neatly explains the apparent inability of Google to actually delete the images (RTFA) as requested by the DPA. It seems to be one of those things where there are only two normal explanations - incompetence of the Google engineers to actually delete data, or deliberate ignoring of the request to delete. So which is it Google? Do you claim to be incompetent or do you think you're big enough to ignore Government?:)
In my experience, syncing to the device should alert you that you have apps on the device to sync to your iTunes install (it does for me [iPhone 3G, iOS 4.1, iTunes 10, Windows]) and let you perform that sync to avoid re-downloading your apps. Not that I have many, as I use WinMo on a device with a real, honest-to-God keyboard by preference...
The hassle of having to find / obtain enough documentation to prove your identity, so that you can get your ordinary ID back (drivers license etc). The hassle of remembering exactly what you have to cancel / change. And you get your family photos back (well OK, I don't have photos in my wallet but I know lots of people do - what's the matter, do they forget what their family looks like, and need a reminder?)
Yes - Honda specifically designed the hubcaps on the EG Civic (IIRC - might have been the EK bugeye Civic that followed it) NOT to fall off by bolting the wheel and the hubcap on together. Really screws with your head when you try to remove the hubcap to change the tyre... if you don't look closely or read the manual.
Wait a minute... Amazon gets to set the price? So you want to sell at $3 and they can decide you can only sell at $0.49? Or at $10? WTF am I missing here - that sounds pretty ridiculous (and no, I've been around long enough that I'm not going to sully this post by actually RTFA). I can't see it being of much use in avoiding the race to the bottom... and I can't see any other reason at first glance.
Yes, MPs are physically able to cross the floor. However, unless a particular vote is agreed to be a conscience vote (namely, "vote on this item according to your own conscience") MPs are expected to vote according to their party viewpoint. Failure to do so is what the GP meant with the MP facing expulsion from the party.
What the hell is this? Rational thought on Slashdot? Dammit man what are you DOING!? You know we're supposed to push Linux as the be-all and end-all of software in the Universe - whether it runs your applications or not, whether it has drivers or not, whether you like it or not. It's FREE man!
It's simple, OK? If the apps you want don't work, you must find or write the replacement (even if the only programming you've ever done was managing to set the clock on your VCR to 1am. Once. And now the only way you can get the time right is to wait to reset it at one in the morning. If there are no drivers for your hardware, you bought the wrong hardware and it's YOUR FAULT we don't have all the hardware manufacturers producing only open-source drivers. Go buy replacement hardware now (note, we won't actually make it easy for you to tell if there are drivers for a Netcomm wireless adapter, you should KNOW it's a UCom 32k98ga rev 3 not a rev 4).
Look, I understand politicians are commonly held to be basically the same everywhere (nominally crap), but in which reality is lying under oath excusable? I mean seriously, I'm assuming he "only lied when he had pledged to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth". I'm outside looking in (AU is still thankfully not the 51st state); I couldn't care less if he had a mistress. But if he's going to lie about that while under oath, I don't understand why it would be considered gospel that he didn't and wouldn't lie about anything else in any other situation?
Not that the bleached out water-coloured Australian dross are any better though... no colour or strength to their campaigns.
I've been avoiding photos for as long as I can remember. It's unlikely that there were more than a dozen taken (analog and digital combined) over the past 20 years...
I therefore doubt there are [that m]any available on the Net.
Actually, for me, I'd just LOVE to buy AMD. But I've had exceptionally poor luck with AMD chipsets in the past, and this is an area where Intel typically excels. Only a couple of years ago, if you bought a 3rd tier motherboard (Gigabyte, Asus, DFI, etc) - if it was an Intel chip, it was an Intel chipset. If it was an AMD chip, it was nVidia or SiS or anyone cheap.
Nowadays, sure you can get AMD chipsets. But I've been burned too many times and the amount of information on the AMD chips and chipsets seems more limited. For example, where's AMD's version of http://processorfinder.intel.com/ ? How do I figure out which AMD chips have which functions (I generally want Intel VT / AMD-V, for example). Do the chipsets support it? Which ones? Which boards have good RAID and SATA drivers? Do they have an equivalent to Intel's Matrix RAID? And obviously no AMD board has Intel Ethernet controllers.
Having done the modeling for this, here's some components to consider.
Cost of the SAN controllers - often spread across servers, but can be spread across disk shelves / disks
Maintenance on the SAN controllers
Production Disk shelves - the cabinet, the full set of disks, the rack space, the cables, the power connections and the connections to the SAN head if needed
Backup Disk
DR Disk
DR Backup Disk (ie you replicate backups to DR then restore)
Tape Libraries and Drives
Tape Software (commonly sold at $X per TB)
I have one example (AUD) where this works out as follows:
SAN controllers - $100K for up to 40 shelves of disk, so $2500 per shelf - so as below $1 per GB
Production Disk shelves - 300GB 15K FC disks giving ~2.8TB for $24K - $8 per GB
Backup Disk - 1TB 7.2K SATA disks - 9TB per shelf for $23K - $2.5 per GB
DR Disk - same as production - $8 per GB
DR Backup Disk - same as Backup - $2.5 per GB
Tape Software - $3.5 per GB
Tapes - AUD60 each, LTO4 (1200GB/tape), 17 tapes required for complete cycle - $1 per GB!
Do the maths above: excluding power, staff, tape libraries and rack space etc, it's already over $25 per usable GB for Tier 1 (and $13.57 in this model for the Tier 3 storage). Redundancy is baked in. Spare disks in the SAN are baked in (so a disk failure means immediate rebuild not "wait 4h until a replacement can be installed by an engineer" rebuild. And for this cost, we also have things like automatic deduplication of data (backup and online), data replication, historical backup to tape and so on and so forth.
Sounds like you want Waze. Community generated maps, editable online with your web browser (so you can correct wayward GPS tracks). Points system for ranking your contributions and generating interest. Manual reporting of speed traps, hazards etc, and automatic alerting when you're on a road and just travelling too slowly.
$4 for the sheet music, sells (maybe) 2,500 - so that someone can learn it and enjoy making the music themselves. Requires skills to play the appropriate instrument, and read music. Includes all the physical distribution costs (materials, warehousing, shipping, restocking, financing etc).
$1 for the MP3 that people want to listen to, sells (maybe) 100,000. Requires no skills apart from mashing the play button like a dyslexic autistic orangutan. Includes all the electronic distribution costs (warehousing (disk space), shipping (data transfers), financing etc).
Income from sheet music sales: $10K. Income from MP3 sales: $100K.
Your analysis also ignores the fact that the performance of the art needs to pay the salaries of dozens, every day (not for one day or two days of performance), rental costs for the hall/room/stage/performance arena, costumes, sound engineers, makeup, sets... - as well as rehearsals etc; the paper version is paying for the writing time, publishing, distribution etc - costumes, sound etc is "paid for" by the reader's imagination. They're just not directly comparable (or, "Waaah, why does a prime mover cost less than a Porsche GT2 when the Porsche is smaller")!
... or else my card (Intel Link 1000 BGN) isn't supported. (Netstumbler is an example...)
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Try using a wireless network monitoring program like... Net Stumbler for Windows.
Yes, I know this is slashdot, and we don't read the articles; but is it too much to ask for you to read the freaking SUMMARY before you reply with a useless load of blather?
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I think the rage is more about the over-reaching grab for everything - it's not that they want "Facebook" they want Face{EVERYTHING} (and {EVERYTHING}book) - and these words are often used as part of a larger word or phrase, for example (just some normal words that are in use, let alone "created" words like facebook):
Let's *ace it, *ace is a pretty common word or syllable, and claiming otherwise is a bald-*aced lie. Same with *ook! LittleBlack*ook.com is probably in trouble (given Teach*ook is in court), the GoReadA*ook.org foundation is up *hit creek ... and where shall it stop?
I don't get it. How is the server (or the device) supposed to be able to tell the difference between personal data and company data? Here's a file: "Acme Meeting Notes 26 Nov". You tell me if that file is personal or company related. How about a picture, Image034.jpg? How does the server know if that's a picture of someone's kid, or a copy of the blueprint for some device? What if they've just copied 20GB of car part specifications to "/Personal/ReallyNotCompanyStuff/Don'tWipeMe/Music/Dire Straits - Telegraph Rd (15m).mp3"?
The fact is that people can, and do, use smart phones (and other EAS devices) for more than just one thing, and so do the bad guys. The server and the device cannot distinguish between personal items and work items (remember that any implementation that allows a person to tag an item "personal" allows the same thing for a nefarious evildoer is also similarly flawed). So for security's sake, it has to be the whole device, or there's no point removing anything.
It CAN be a "fun, social, time-waster for the people who enjoy it" - I just wish they'd stop trying to force me to enjoy it. You can have it. Really. I choose not to, now stop asking.
Do you try to force people to like your sports? Your games? Your music? No, you might suggest to a friend that they may enjoy it, but you don't stand behind them with a baseball bat screaming "LIKE IT. I LIKE IT YOU HAVE TO LIKE IT TOO. WHY WON'T YOU LIKE IT? IF YOU WON'T LIKE IT I'LL HIT YOU AGAIN!"
Frankly to me, Facebook and it's small group of rabid supporters are the ones screaming at me to want it. I don't care if YOU like it, I don't - and to me it sucks that I can't express this adequately (since you can never permanently guarantee that someone, somewhere won't tag you in a photo or share their address book, and you can't opt out until someone has "suggested" you be opted in).
A LOT of people use Facebook A LOT. They depend on it. Businesses increasingly use it too -- a Facebook page is seen as an essential part of marketing and customer management now. In other words, it's not just a hot social thing; it's an integral part of online life for a large portion of the population. Someone could create a new hot social thing right now that is 10 times better than Facebook, and it would still probably take a long time for it to replace Facebook, because most people are perfectly happy with Facebook, and because you can't change your social network as easily as you can change your search engine. Maybe that's what's really bugging Google.
Hmm. s/Facebook/Second Life/g ... yep still makes sense.
Furthermore, destruction of the lock and use of the unlocked chest does not excuse the seller breaking into your house at night and attaching a newer, stronger padlock to the chest, locking you out of it again (OTA updates anyone?) Also, what about the people that bought outright? Are you going to argue that the device suddenly becomes the property of the telco when the person signs up for service?
Bloody anonymous cowards ...
Actually this neatly explains the apparent inability of Google to actually delete the images (RTFA) as requested by the DPA. It seems to be one of those things where there are only two normal explanations - incompetence of the Google engineers to actually delete data, or deliberate ignoring of the request to delete. So which is it Google? Do you claim to be incompetent or do you think you're big enough to ignore Government? :)
If your fingers subscribe you to the site, but your brain doesn't want to subscribe, you have bigger problems on your hands.
No, Who is on first, What is on second. I Don't Know is on third. FFS what do they TEACH you kids these days?
Now get off my lawn!
In my experience, syncing to the device should alert you that you have apps on the device to sync to your iTunes install (it does for me [iPhone 3G, iOS 4.1, iTunes 10, Windows]) and let you perform that sync to avoid re-downloading your apps. Not that I have many, as I use WinMo on a device with a real, honest-to-God keyboard by preference ...
The hassle of having to find / obtain enough documentation to prove your identity, so that you can get your ordinary ID back (drivers license etc). The hassle of remembering exactly what you have to cancel / change. And you get your family photos back (well OK, I don't have photos in my wallet but I know lots of people do - what's the matter, do they forget what their family looks like, and need a reminder?)
Yes - Honda specifically designed the hubcaps on the EG Civic (IIRC - might have been the EK bugeye Civic that followed it) NOT to fall off by bolting the wheel and the hubcap on together. Really screws with your head when you try to remove the hubcap to change the tyre ... if you don't look closely or read the manual.
Wait a minute ... Amazon gets to set the price? So you want to sell at $3 and they can decide you can only sell at $0.49? Or at $10? WTF am I missing here - that sounds pretty ridiculous (and no, I've been around long enough that I'm not going to sully this post by actually RTFA). I can't see it being of much use in avoiding the race to the bottom ... and I can't see any other reason at first glance.
Yes, MPs are physically able to cross the floor. However, unless a particular vote is agreed to be a conscience vote (namely, "vote on this item according to your own conscience") MPs are expected to vote according to their party viewpoint. Failure to do so is what the GP meant with the MP facing expulsion from the party.
What the hell is this? Rational thought on Slashdot? Dammit man what are you DOING!? You know we're supposed to push Linux as the be-all and end-all of software in the Universe - whether it runs your applications or not, whether it has drivers or not, whether you like it or not. It's FREE man!
It's simple, OK? If the apps you want don't work, you must find or write the replacement (even if the only programming you've ever done was managing to set the clock on your VCR to 1am. Once. And now the only way you can get the time right is to wait to reset it at one in the morning. If there are no drivers for your hardware, you bought the wrong hardware and it's YOUR FAULT we don't have all the hardware manufacturers producing only open-source drivers. Go buy replacement hardware now (note, we won't actually make it easy for you to tell if there are drivers for a Netcomm wireless adapter, you should KNOW it's a UCom 32k98ga rev 3 not a rev 4).
Hmmm. More ranty than I planned. Whatever.
Oh dear. You really didn't think that through did you TheLinks?
It appears that I might be the first to say, "Whoooosh!"
He only lied about it under oath, ...
Look, I understand politicians are commonly held to be basically the same everywhere (nominally crap), but in which reality is lying under oath excusable? I mean seriously, I'm assuming he "only lied when he had pledged to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth". I'm outside looking in (AU is still thankfully not the 51st state); I couldn't care less if he had a mistress. But if he's going to lie about that while under oath, I don't understand why it would be considered gospel that he didn't and wouldn't lie about anything else in any other situation?
Not that the bleached out water-coloured Australian dross are any better though ... no colour or strength to their campaigns.
I've been avoiding photos for as long as I can remember. It's unlikely that there were more than a dozen taken (analog and digital combined) over the past 20 years...
I therefore doubt there are [that m]any available on the Net.
Yeah no photos of me ... no Facebook account!
Actually, for me, I'd just LOVE to buy AMD. But I've had exceptionally poor luck with AMD chipsets in the past, and this is an area where Intel typically excels. Only a couple of years ago, if you bought a 3rd tier motherboard (Gigabyte, Asus, DFI, etc) - if it was an Intel chip, it was an Intel chipset. If it was an AMD chip, it was nVidia or SiS or anyone cheap.
Nowadays, sure you can get AMD chipsets. But I've been burned too many times and the amount of information on the AMD chips and chipsets seems more limited. For example, where's AMD's version of http://processorfinder.intel.com/ ? How do I figure out which AMD chips have which functions (I generally want Intel VT / AMD-V, for example). Do the chipsets support it? Which ones? Which boards have good RAID and SATA drivers? Do they have an equivalent to Intel's Matrix RAID? And obviously no AMD board has Intel Ethernet controllers.
It just seems like a real bun fight :-(
Having done the modeling for this, here's some components to consider.
I have one example (AUD) where this works out as follows:
Do the maths above: excluding power, staff, tape libraries and rack space etc, it's already over $25 per usable GB for Tier 1 (and $13.57 in this model for the Tier 3 storage). Redundancy is baked in. Spare disks in the SAN are baked in (so a disk failure means immediate rebuild not "wait 4h until a replacement can be installed by an engineer" rebuild. And for this cost, we also have things like automatic deduplication of data (backup and online), data replication, historical backup to tape and so on and so forth.
Yes! Now I can consider swapping ... before, AdBlock didn't protect my woeful Australian 3G quota.
Sounds like you want Waze. Community generated maps, editable online with your web browser (so you can correct wayward GPS tracks). Points system for ranking your contributions and generating interest. Manual reporting of speed traps, hazards etc, and automatic alerting when you're on a road and just travelling too slowly.
$4 for the sheet music, sells (maybe) 2,500 - so that someone can learn it and enjoy making the music themselves. Requires skills to play the appropriate instrument, and read music. Includes all the physical distribution costs (materials, warehousing, shipping, restocking, financing etc).
$1 for the MP3 that people want to listen to, sells (maybe) 100,000. Requires no skills apart from mashing the play button like a dyslexic autistic orangutan. Includes all the electronic distribution costs (warehousing (disk space), shipping (data transfers), financing etc).
Income from sheet music sales: $10K. Income from MP3 sales: $100K.
Your analysis also ignores the fact that the performance of the art needs to pay the salaries of dozens, every day (not for one day or two days of performance), rental costs for the hall/room/stage/performance arena, costumes, sound engineers, makeup, sets ... - as well as rehearsals etc; the paper version is paying for the writing time, publishing, distribution etc - costumes, sound etc is "paid for" by the reader's imagination. They're just not directly comparable (or, "Waaah, why does a prime mover cost less than a Porsche GT2 when the Porsche is smaller")!
Summary:
... or else my card (Intel Link 1000 BGN) isn't supported. (Netstumbler is an example ...)
Parent:
Try using a wireless network monitoring program like ... Net Stumbler for Windows.
Yes, I know this is slashdot, and we don't read the articles; but is it too much to ask for you to read the freaking SUMMARY before you reply with a useless load of blather?