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Facebook To Own the Word "Face"

Dthief writes "The US Patent And Trademark Office has sent Facebook a Notice of Allowance, which means it will grant the 'Face' trademark to the popular social networking site. Facebook now has three months to pay an issue fee before they officially own the word. From the article: 'For all intents and purposes today's status update bodes well for Facebook's hold over 'face' usages in 'Telecommunication services, namely, providing online chat rooms and electronic bulletin boards for transmission of messages among computer users in the field of general interest and concerning social and entertainment subject matter, none primarily featuring or relating to motoring or to cars.''"

311 comments

  1. So what you're saying is... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

    My super rich application, FaceSuite, complete with all the regular knacks, FaceDrafting, FaceSpreadsheet, FaceChat, FaceMediaPlayer, and my ultimate favourite, FaceFace Designer - will need to be rehashed and trademarks changed?

    1. Re:So what you're saying is... by pookemon · · Score: 5, Funny

      You'll have to rename it then. I suggest "Arse" (or Ass depending on where you're from).

      ArseSuite, ArseDrafting, ArseSpreadsheet, ArseChat, ArseMediaPlayer and your ultimate favourite ArseFace. :P

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    2. Re:So what you're saying is... by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just use a synonym. I suggest "mug." MugSuite has a nice ring to it.

    3. Re:So what you're saying is... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just use a synonym. I suggest "mug." MugSuite has a nice ring to it.

      No, not mug - use "toot".

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    4. Re:So what you're saying is... by Bozzio · · Score: 1

      Flamebait? More like "+6 Funny"-bait.

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    5. Re:So what you're saying is... by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

      Hm, does this mean I can't say myface.jpg anymore? Well fuck, mymug.jpg doesn't have the nice right to it, nor does mytoot.jpg. Thank you America for your wonderful trademark and patent laws. I think I'll stick with myface.jpg anyways.

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    6. Re:So what you're saying is... by EdZ · · Score: 1

      Ar(r)sePedia is already taken, however.

    7. Re:So what you're saying is... by ignavus · · Score: 1

      VisageVolume

      "visage" means *ace (sorry, *acebook now owns that word)

      "volume" means book (unless Amazon owns that word, oh wait, doesn't Brazil own the word Amazon? Or was that the ancient Greeks? I'm getting confused)

      Or we could use "CountenanceCodex"

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    8. Re:So what you're saying is... by angus77 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'll have to rename it then. I suggest "Arse"

      I'm afraid ArseTechnica beat him to it.

    9. Re:So what you're saying is... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Hm, does this mean I can't say myface.jpg anymore? Well fuck, mymug.jpg doesn't have the nice right to it, nor does mytoot.jpg.

      I suspect people would expect a very different picture if it were named mytoot.jpg - and I can say for certain I'd never want to see it.

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    10. Re:So what you're saying is... by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 5, Funny

      ... ArseSpreadsheet...

      Does that work out to a goatse joke somehow?

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    11. Re:So what you're saying is... by Mistlefoot · · Score: 1

      iFace are screwed!

      Stuck between an apple and book......

      http://iface.com/

    12. Re:So what you're saying is... by pookemon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Some ppl have no sense of humour. ;)

      BTW - The browser I'm using is AE (Arse Explorer) and I download my torrents with ArseTorrent (Ew).

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    13. Re:So what you're saying is... by benjammindean · · Score: 1

      Mugshot. Because anyone caught using the word face before any other noun will probably be persecuted like a teenager and RIAA! I wonder if they can lay claim to the word "Facade", that's close enough for trademark infringement isn't it!? This world is so screwed. Nobody should have rights to a word...EVER!

    14. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just use a synonym. I suggest "mug." MugSuite has a nice ring to it.

      Obligatory - are you mugging me off you mug?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0kwWeuTq5E

    15. Re:So what you're saying is... by tenco · · Score: 1

      and your ultimate favourite ArseArse.

      FTFY.

    16. Re:So what you're saying is... by AchilleTalon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I rather than suggest to enter the procedure to register Ace as a trademark, then you should be able to sell you FaceSuite and have Facebook repay you their rights plus the right to use ACE in Face.

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    17. Re:So what you're saying is... by syousef · · Score: 1

      ArseSuite, ArseDrafting, ArseSpreadsheet, ArseChat, ArseMediaPlayer and your ultimate favourite ArseFace. :P

      I think you'll find MS Orafice was first.

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    18. Re:So what you're saying is... by Meski · · Score: 1

      ... ArseSpreadsheet...

      Does that work out to a goatse joke somehow?

      Doesn't everything?

      Few things are as unnerving as seeing a programmer walk by with a screwdriver in hand... quietly muttering...

      Beware! I have a CCS permit

    19. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's hope 'Arse' remains public domain.

    20. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    21. Re:So what you're saying is... by hummingpig · · Score: 1

      That;s not a big deal. I'm more worried about washing my FACE in the morning :S

    22. Re:So what you're saying is... by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      On the other side; no more "Faceless" corporations!

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    23. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just use a synonym. I suggest "mug." MugSuite has a nice ring to it.

      No, not mug - use "toot".

      I think "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" has got prior usage on that one :)

    24. Re:So what you're saying is... by louic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your face... your arse.... what's the difference

    25. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, P.D.Q. Bach already composed that one. (although you probably have to be a music geek to have heard of him. ;))

    26. Re:So what you're saying is... by dintech · · Score: 1

      Arrrgh! How can I UNrecalculate it?

    27. Re:So what you're saying is... by dintech · · Score: 1

      Apple will probably have to rename FaceTime then. It's ArseTime!

    28. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Au contraire, I suggest Farse as that will combine all aspects - the stupidity of owning words and Zoikerboigs appearance - in one neat package.

    29. Re:So what you're saying is... by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      Yes. But on the plus side, "Dickface" and "Zuckerberg" can now be used interchangeably with no confusion.

    30. Re:So what you're saying is... by CarlosM7 · · Score: 1

      Arguably it pairs with the numbers some people put in their worksheets

    31. Re:So what you're saying is... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      What about my new soon-to-be-hit Guess Who-like game, FaceFace Revolution?

      Maybe I should rename it FaceFaceInation and apply your renaming scheme?

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    32. Re:So what you're saying is... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Judging by the popularity of ChatRoulette, that could be a brilliant move.

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    33. Re:So what you're saying is... by StuckInSyrup · · Score: 2, Informative

      The browser I'm using is AE (Arse Explorer)

      You must be working for the TSA.

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    34. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you'll find MS Oriface was first. FTFY

    35. Re:So what you're saying is... by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      Why do people say "+N [Moderation]"? I have Funny set to -3, so "+1 Funny" makes no sense to me.

    36. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't know why this upsets people so.There are over 15 other trademarks for the word owned by other companies. No one screamed when Honda trademarked "Face" back in 2005. Do you know that Facebook also owns the letter "F"? http://bit.ly/gn1YJa

    37. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that would be ArseSpreadcheeks.

    38. Re:So what you're saying is... by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

      You have to pick a reason to moderate it. They're saying, moderate it +1, and give it "funny" as the reason. You're being needlessly pedantic, and I'm being offtopic yet informative. And interesting, insightful, funny, underrated and +6 PURE AWESMOE!!!1 ...
      Yes. I'm hoping that more people will find this funny than offtopic. *twiddles thumbs*

    39. Re:So what you're saying is... by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      But there is no way to "moderate it +1". You only get to select the description of the type of moderation you are applying, you don't have control over the +/-.

    40. Re:So what you're saying is... by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

      True, but everyone knows whether something is a + or - after seeing them in the moderation histories of others a few times. Or they can just guess based on whether a judgement sounds positive or negative.

      I'll rephrase it: "They're saying, moderate it something positive (+1 for those with default settings), and give it "funny" as the reason."

  2. First "Book" and now "Face"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Didn't they sue someone over the use of the word "Book" (teachersbook) or something like that? This was a common phrase to apply to a year book. This kind of stuff is just beyond me...nobody should be able to own common words or letters.

    1. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by countSudoku() · · Score: 5, Funny

      Technically, this means they own the term "fuckface" which is a common synonym for Zuckerberg. So, hat's off to fuckface!

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    2. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are correct.

      Facebook vs Teachbook.

      However they had SOME miniscule ground in that Teachbook is meant to be a social network for teachers - and Facebook being a social network - felt that the use of 'x'book for social media sites kind of makes it sound like its trying to copy or associate with them, so they're defending the Facebook trademark that way.

      Now - they basically want to do the same thing with Face, I assume. No social networking site Can be Face'x'. I don't think the lawyers would be stupid to try and defend its trademark outside the realm of which the company operates.

    3. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by adisakp · · Score: 1

      Didn't they sue someone over the use of the word "Book" (teachersbook) or something like that? This was a common phrase to apply to a year book. This kind of stuff is just beyond me...nobody should be able to own common words or letters.

      Yes, according to this link:

      Facebook has been embroiled in a spate of trademark-fueled litigation in recent months, most recently a back and forth with parody site Lamebook. The company has also sued Teachbook and Placebook

    4. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      I don't think the lawyers would be stupid to try and defend its trademark outside the realm of which the company operates.

      You must be new around here.

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    5. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by frozentier · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Takes a lot for me to laugh while reading on the internet, but this did it. Thanks!

    6. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      as for the FB, a more appropriate name would be f-ass-book.com.

      The domain seems available, I'm highly tempted to take it and put on a forum for others to express their low opinions (assuming they have the freedom to do so) on FB, in electronic form - just as a challenge to this - almost granted - trademark.

    7. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 1

      Sir...I applaud you

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    8. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Hmmm ... I think I'll try registering facetious.org ... No, wait; that's already registered (72.52.199.114), as are facetious.net (also 72.52.199.114) and facetious.com (208.87.32.68). Similarly, faceoff.com, faceoff.net and faceoff.org are all registered, as are facet.com, facet.net and facet.org. I wonder if they'll all be sued by facebook?

      There's also the growing problem that most 1- and 2-word (English) domain names are all registered, mostly by domain squatters.

      OTOH, it seems that right now, facebook.net isn't registered. Hmmm ... ;-)

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    9. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by unitron · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Takes a lot for me to laugh while reading on the internet..."

      Not familiar with the BOFH stories,then?

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    10. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Idiomatick · · Score: 2, Funny

      I heard Zuckerfuck before.

    11. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about phonebook? Go for it, SUE AT&T!!!ONE!!11!

    12. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by bpsbr_ernie · · Score: 1

      Technically, this means they own the term "fuckface" which is a common synonym for Zuckerberg. So, hat's off to fuckface!

      You are required to now include the registered trademark symbol when referring to Zuckerberg and fuckface®. Please correct and resubmit or you will be contacted by their lawyers.

    13. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by dismorphic · · Score: 1

      Didn't they sue someone over the use of the word "Book" (teachersbook) or something like that? This was a common phrase to apply to a year book. This kind of stuff is just beyond me...nobody should be able to own common words or letters.

      Soon enough each individual letter will be owned and anybody caught using any of them will have their pants sued off of them. Aside from the 24 letters, I wonder how far into extended ASCII (or worse yet UNICODE) they'll get. I claim umlaut.

    14. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by ebuck · · Score: 1

      ...

      Now - they basically want to do the same thing with Face, I assume. No social networking site Can be Face'x'. I don't think the lawyers would be stupid to try and defend its trademark outside the realm of which the company operates.

      So I can open an online book store that puts you directly in contact with authors via video streaming and call it "facebook"? Not likely.

    15. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      I have tons of mod points, but your post is already at the limit.
      A reply fits the bill perfectly, so . . .

      +1 Funny
      +1 Hilarious
      +1 Insightful
      +1 True
      +1 Innovative

      Thanks for the laugh, countSudoku.

    16. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Dreadneck · · Score: 1

      Technically, this means they own the term "fuckface"

      Shouldn't that be "facefuck"?

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    17. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Hey! We have the same name! My lawyer will be contacting you shortly...

      Seriously, PTO... for fuck's sake!

      Allow the FULL "Facebook" as a trademark, but disallow "face" or "book", as there are many years' worth of previous "art".

      I mean, Jesus f'in' Christ... what's next? Apple trademarking "i"? MySpace trademarking "my" and "space"? Slashdot trademarking "slash" and "dot" (sorry, GnR/Animaniacs!)?

      Fuckin' USPTO just got themselves Zuckerfucked...

    18. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by treecat · · Score: 1

      Aside from the 24 letters, I wonder how far into extended ASCII (or worse yet UNICODE) they'll get. I claim umlaut.

      I know I'm getting old, but the last time I checked the American alphabet it contained 26 letters.

    19. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by HyperQuantum · · Score: 1

      Let me be the first to say...

      facepalm !

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    20. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean you can create a site called "BookFace" and tell them to go piss off? ...since it's not Face'x' or 'x'book, I wonder if you could get away with it? What about Koobecaf? Or NotFaceBook (since you are clearly distancing yourself from them with the name)? Where are the limits with stuff like this?

    21. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Zuckerfuck: What social media does to the web, and human society.

      Future history book:

      In the mid 2000s, mankind was beginning to be Zuckerfucked. By 2015 the Zuckerfuckification was complete, and new words had to be invented for "face" and "book" to avoid licensing fees. Unfortunately it was impossible to spread the use of these words among the population without making them the property of Facebook or Twitter, leading to the current usage of "that thing between your chin and your hairline" and "bound set of pages." However Pepsi was still as delicious as ever. Drink Pepsi.

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    22. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by JSombra · · Score: 1

      "I don't think the lawyers would be stupid to try and defend its trademark outside the realm of which the company operates."
      Of course they will, got to rack up those billable hours somehow

    23. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by cmdr_tofu · · Score: 1

      What about friendface? Isn't parody fair use? O my... friendface is gone :-/

    24. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Rutefoot · · Score: 1

      The site Lamebook.com, a ...I guess you could call it a satire site is also in legal trouble.

    25. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      exactly my thought, now we will have to pay royalties to use words in a common conversation, seriously, patent trolls really irk me.

    26. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by RandomAdam · · Score: 1

      Aside from the 24 letters, I wonder how far into extended ASCII (or worse yet UNICODE) they'll get. I claim umlaut.

      I know I'm getting old, but the last time I checked the American alphabet it contained 26 letters.

      And last time I checked it was the English alphabet....

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    27. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by treecat · · Score: 1

      No argument here.I plead non-inebriation as the cause of that post.

    28. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you think they'd object if I opened Facefuck? Are they trying to say Facebook could be confused with that site.

      OK, I guess you're right.

  3. Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    FacePalm!

    1. Re:Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      You beat me to it. Mod parent up!

    2. Re:Facepalm! by Grapplebeam · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apply directly to the forehead! Facepalm! Apply directly to the forehead!

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    3. Re:Facepalm! by whathappenedtomonday · · Score: 3, Funny

      Facetious!

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    4. Re:Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically this is now in violation of patents held by FaceBook and HP respectively. Please exercise caution. (It's getting a bit chubby).

    5. Re:Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About Face!

      Get out of my Face!

      Face the Music

      Face the facts, they want to be the very face of abuse of the system.

      It makes me have a sad face.

    6. Re:Facepalm! by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Careful. facepalm.com, facepalm.org and facepalm.net are all registered domain names.

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    7. Re:Facepalm! by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      Does this mean I have to get a license or pay a fine if I want to get shitfaced?

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    8. Re:Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always loved the word facetious, I used to tell people, that didn't know what it meant, that it was derived from the latin "faeces" - "to put shit on".
      But, seriously (well sort of), does this mean that I can no longer say to people that "I'm so off my face right now !" ?

    9. Re:Facepalm! by tenco · · Score: 1

      FacePalm!

      In your Face!

    10. Re:Facepalm! by syousef · · Score: 1

      I heard they were suing the military.....

      ABOOOUT FACE!

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    11. Re:Facepalm! by djdanlib · · Score: 1

      Coming soon to a mobile phone near you! FacePalm will have its day! We promise! -- Palm, Inc.

    12. Re:Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find this hilarious.

      the term "lol" is overused... but ... lol

    13. Re:Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called an alcohol _tax_, not fine.

    14. Re:Facepalm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In your pants!

    15. Re:Facepalm! by ndnspongebob · · Score: 1

      FacePalm - The facebook application for webOS

  4. oh, oh, by orange47 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want to own the word "bird"..
    A-well-a bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word

    1. Re:oh, oh, by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      awesome song, btw.

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    2. Re:oh, oh, by One+Monkey · · Score: 1

      Hadn't you heard? It was my understanding that everyone had heard?

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  5. Oops by goldaryn · · Score: 1

    :Facepalm:

    Oops! I'm sorry, please don't sue me!

  6. Not a member by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go face yourself Facebook

  7. In your FACE common sense! by MouseR · · Score: 1

    [+] Like.

  8. AC to own the word "Frost" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    also trademarking firsty, thirsty, french toast, frist post

  9. Trademarks never to be used by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a sad day, we now know that Mark Zuckerberg has the trademark on AssFace and FuckFace. Well, I guess we knew that already anyways.

    1. Re:Trademarks never to be used by Rashdot · · Score: 1

      Is ZuckerFace.com still available?

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    2. Re:Trademarks never to be used by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a sad day, we now know that Mark Zuckerberg has the trademark on AssFace and FuckFace. Well, I guess we knew that already anyways.

      Oh, crap, does this mean I can't get shitfaced on weekends any more?

  10. How about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Facetime?

  11. Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by shaark78 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    of Facetime?

    1. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by RandyOo · · Score: 1

      That was my first thought, too...

    2. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by AnonymousClown · · Score: 5, Funny

      of Facetime?

      1! 2! 3! 4! I call an IP war!

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    3. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      incorrect - if anything the reverse case will apply, and restrictions/exclusions or overturn of the Face trademark would occur. Apple's trademark claims on Facetime have precedence due to date of filing and usage. Facebook would be foolish to confront Apple on this.

    4. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by tyrione · · Score: 1

      of Facetime?

      No it won't.

    5. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Marcika · · Score: 5, Funny

      of Facetime?

      1! 2! 3! 4! I call an IP war!

      5! 6! 7! 8! Imitate and Litigate!

    6. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      of Facetime?

      1! 2! 3! 4! I call an IP war!

      5! 6! 7! 8! Imitate and Litigate!

      9! A! B! C! Trademarking is almost free!

    7. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by GaryOlson · · Score: 1

      Anyone know a law firm who needs letterhead? This would make great letterhead.

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    8. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by fermion · · Score: 1

      My first thought was the renewed a-team. Templeton won't be able to be called Face anymore.

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    9. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think, given their laptop lineup, they also may be in conflict with *book.

    10. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      incorrect - if anything the reverse case will apply, and restrictions/exclusions or overturn of the Face trademark would occur. Apple's trademark claims on Facetime have precedence due to date of filing and usage. Facebook would be foolish to confront Apple on this.

      I think you'll find that "facebook" was in use years before "facetime".

    11. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      of Facetime?

      1! 2! 3! 4! I call an IP war!

      5! 6! 7! 8! Imitate and Litigate!

      9! A! B! C! Trademarking is almost free!

      D! E! F! 10! I hate rhyming! Facebook sucks!

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    12. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      D! E! F! Fuck!

    13. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!

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    14. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      D! E! F! 10! Back it up and go again!

    15. Re:Apple will have to cede trademark ownership... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      of Facetime?

      1! 2! 3! 4! I call an IP war!

      5! 6! 7! 8! Imitate and Litigate!

      9! A! B! C! Trademarking is almost free!

      D! E! F! 10! Settle and we'll start again!

  12. So are these phrases nbow owned by facebook? by Jailbrekr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Face time
    Giving face
    Getting face
    Face the music
    Face off

    This is supremely retarded.

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    1. Re:So are these phrases nbow owned by facebook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      face*.xxx

    2. Re:So are these phrases nbow owned by facebook? by ieatcookies · · Score: 1

      I don't think any of this means they own the word. Theyre protecting their identity from being confused with other similar techs that are not theirs. Do you think apple is suing applebee's (sp?) for name infringement?

    3. Re:So are these phrases nbow owned by facebook? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1
      Nope. Only in the context of ... "elecommunication services, namely, providing online chat rooms and electronic bulletin boards for transmission of messages among computer users in the field of general interest and concerning social and entertainment subject matter".

      This is supremely retarded.

      Well, yeah.

    4. Re:So are these phrases nbow owned by facebook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who uses those? Besides "face off" I've barely heard of any of them.

    5. Re:So are these phrases nbow owned by facebook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Face time
      Giving face
      Getting face
      Face the music
      Face off

      This is supremely retarded.

      They can just stay the hell away from SitOnMyFace!

  13. What does this mean for Apple's FaceTime? by raam4122 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I'm curious what this means for Apple and their usage of FaceTime. Will Apple have to change the name?

    1. Re:What does this mean for Apple's FaceTime? by NoobixCube · · Score: 0, Troll

      It was a stupid name anyway. They should have called it "Crippled-video-chat-aping-video-call"

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    2. Re:What does this mean for Apple's FaceTime? by Aphrika · · Score: 1

      How about MugShot?

    3. Re:What does this mean for Apple's FaceTime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Non-issue for Apple. They own the FaceTime trademark on an application dating to 1998 (purchased from another company). Facebook's application was initiated in 2005.

    4. Re:What does this mean for Apple's FaceTime? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't that be Smugshot?

    5. Re:What does this mean for Apple's FaceTime? by DavidRawling · · Score: 1

      Prior art - Criterion Games and Burnout Paradise (I think it's sent to a competitor when you beat their time on a road, I don't recall).

    6. Re:What does this mean for Apple's FaceTime? by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 1

      "Prior art - Criterion Games and Burnout Paradise (I think it's sent to a competitor when you beat their time on a road, I don't recall)."

      Prior art only applies to patents, for the record. Only registered trademarks have an effect on other trademarks.

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  14. Face.com by denshao2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Face.com may be forced to remove their Facebook like box.

  15. Not necessarily as bad as it sounds by KC1P · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This might not cause that much trouble, because when you *register* a trademark (as in (R)) you have to specify what business the mark will be used in and it's limited to that. A non-registered trademark (as in TM) is harder to defend but has a lot more wiggle room for the trademark holder. IANAL but I'll continue using the word "Face" w/o worrying, unless I'm building a social networking web site.

    1. Re:Not necessarily as bad as it sounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should register Fac {EVERYTHING}

    2. Re:Not necessarily as bad as it sounds by ratboy666 · · Score: 1

      Actually, it may be that bad. Granting in an entertainment context?

      So, when discussing A-Team episodes on-line, on a social networking site, I now have to write:

      Remember when Face (tm Facebook) did that girl?

      Face (a nickname), Face (a face), Face (a verb), Face (an aspect). Now controlled by Facebook(tm) on social and entertainment on-line sites? It may now be even difficult to air "IT Crowd" episodes, as they occasionally refer to a "FriendFace" site.

      And I would sure think (more than) twice before trying a dating site called "SuckFace.com". (yes, I know it "sucks" but this is just illustrative).

      All I can say is: you Yanks are surely "some kind of crazy".

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    3. Re:Not necessarily as bad as it sounds by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid the summary specified the domain far more broadly: telecommunication. That would mean any website, radio, network service, phone service and so on.

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  16. Terrible by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is like a slap in the face to the public!

    Wait, what do you mean I owe Mark Zuckerberg a thousand dollars for this slashdot comment?

    1. Re:Terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is like a slap in the Face® to the public!

      Fixed that for ya.

    2. Re:Terrible by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      Face it kiddo, this is egg on your Face. Time to Face the music, You do the crime, you Face the time. Face the consequences like a man, don't about-face and run! Take it on the Face.

      Wait, I meant nose.

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      FACEFACEFACEFACEFACEFACEFACE!

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    3. Re:Terrible by formfeed · · Score: 1

      No, it's a slap in the frontal head area.

  17. oh by pyrocam · · Score: 1

    visage palm

  18. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe my boss will stop using the fucking word "facetime" so much.

  19. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news...

    French startup LivreVisage announced that they would be filing a law suit against Facebook, for unfair usage of a logo or trademark translated by electronic means.

    Lets get ready to rumble...

  20. Looks to me by ffreeloader · · Score: 1

    I looks to me like Facebook is in a hurry to lose face by being the south end of a northbound horse.

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  21. Like Friendship germs.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This does not bode well for popular social site "FriendFace"

  22. Thanks Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is exactly the short of change I was looking for. Even more pandering to the large corporations. That sure worked out well for your party in this year's elections.

  23. What did Apple say about this? by jmichaelg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does the ruling include Facetime?

    1. Re:What did Apple say about this? by firewave · · Score: 1

      It would.. Maybe it's time to drop intellectual property.. isn't it ?

    2. Re:What did Apple say about this? by MichaelKristopeit208 · · Score: 1

      facebook came first... if it hadn't, would apple still have called it facetime? if the exact same service and user base as facebook.com existed for camerabook.com, would apple have called it cameratime?

    3. Re:What did Apple say about this? by MichaelKristopeit207 · · Score: 1

      it could certainly be argued... not guaranteed every judge would see it the same way, isn't it?

    4. Re:What did Apple say about this? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      Facetime was created in 1998, and Apple bought the code.

      That was a little bore Facebook came along I think.

    5. Re:What did Apple say about this? by farnsworth · · Score: 2, Informative

      facebook came first... if it hadn't, would apple still have called it facetime? if the exact same service and user base as facebook.com existed for camerabook.com, would apple have called it cameratime?

      No. "Face time" is an idiom that means "speak directly to someone who is in front of you." Eg, "I need to go spend some face time with my accountant." It has nothing to do with Facebook at all.

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    6. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facetime was created in 1998, and Apple bought the code.

      That was a little bore Facebook came along I think.

      At this point the In Your Face Grammar and Spelling patrol would ordinarily come out and bash you over that little slip up, but I think it's a nice Freudian Slip.

      You didn't faceplant. No egg in the face. You kept face.

    7. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 1

      Screw Apple, what does the A-Team have to say about this? Specifically Lieutenant Templeton Peck.

    8. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      The video chatting code may have been created in 1998, but I'm pretty sure "FaceTime" is just a product name that was publicly announced last June. If the trademark application came before that, Facebook may have grounds for forcing Apple to change the name...

    9. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      face time does not imply speech.

      Would you travel to spend some "face time" with a client, and just fucking stand there looking at them? Now, I have no idea about Apple's product(s), but I damn sure know what "face time" means in the real world. It implies speech, and speech is the very center of what it implies.

      In the business world, the entire purpose of traveling to spend some "face time" with a client IS TO SPEAK WITH THEM, face to face. The purpose being that they associate the mutual business with a person, not just a corporation, and people are more likely to do business with people they like instead of a random company.

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    10. Re:What did Apple say about this? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      No. "Face time" is an idiom that means "speak directly to someone who is in front of you." Eg, "I need to go spend some face time with my accountant." It has nothing to do with Facebook at all.

      The name Facebook could be a play on the concept of 'Face time' however

      Apparently my idea for a goofy social networking site based on Face Painting is a non-starter though

    11. Re:What did Apple say about this? by meerling · · Score: 1

      How about Face to Face video chat?

    12. Re:What did Apple say about this? by tukang · · Score: 1

      How about The North Face? They've been around since the 60s ...

    13. Re:What did Apple say about this? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Does the ruling include Facetime?

      Apple already Applied for the Face Time trademark; although Facebook's application for "Face" in 2005 definitely predates Apple's filing in June 2010.

      However, Facebook has not used the mark "Face" in commerce, they have only used it in conjunction with the word Book as in "Facebook"; they have to pay the fee first and have exclusive use of the actual mark "Face" in commerce within the field of their trademark, before the trademark can become enforceable.

      This could be difficult as Apple has prior use of the mark 'Face' in commerce, in conjunction with 'Time' 'Facetime', within the same field Facebook is applying. In other words: not only has Facebook not used the mark in commerce, they don't even have exclusive use of marks that look like that, because there are a lot of other products starting with the mark "Face" .

      These circumstances could make it difficult or impossible for Facebook to effectively enforce its mark in the courtroom.

    14. Re:What did Apple say about this? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      facebook came first...

      Facebook came first, but the mark that Facebook has used is Facebook

      Facebook has never used the mark Face by itself in commerce, as the name of a product, service, or anything like that, except when combined with the word Book.

      So there is no confusion with any of Facebook's current services with Apple's FaceTime product, because Facetime is definitely not the company name or service mark that Facebook has been using for any of its products.

      Matters would be different if Facebook had brought to market a bunch of different products and just the word 'Face' was used in conjunction with all of them

      But as we stand now, Facebook's not called a service just 'Face', and other companies have already used the name Face and others have already used Book, in the same field as FB's trademark.

      So FB doesn't have exclusive use. They don't right now have a trademark, so they have nothing to enforce, and if they do obtain one -- there is a good chance they will not be able to get it to hold up

    15. Re:What did Apple say about this? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Facetime was created in 1998, and Apple bought the code.

      Poor Apple then, they didn't file for the trademark until June of 2010

      Facebook applied for the 'Face' mark back in December 2005, and it took the USPTO 5 years (to May 2010), before the mark was published for opposition.

      So Apple applying 5 months ago for Facetime. The USPTO won't even start looking at their application until April 2011.

      There is a chance that they might reject it. Or there is a chance Apple might have a trademark in 2020, after Facebook's long past its prime, and nobody even really remembers either Facebook or the iPhone because they both went bust a long time ago and everyone's caught up $SHINY_NEW_TECHNOLOGY_FAD of 2020.

    16. Re:What did Apple say about this? by MichaelKristopeit204 · · Score: 1
      facebook uses the display of the characters reading "face" ON EVERY SINGLE PAGE OF THEIR SERVICES. just because you can't comprehend them separately from the nearby characters reading "book" doesn't mean "face" is not being used.

      what is relevant is they have been granted trademark status. simply because there is no confusion TO YOU, doesn't mean there CAN'T be confusion to anyone. are you a patent judge? a lawyer? went to law school? went to college? graduated high school? graduated anything? YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NECESSITY AND SUFFICIENCY. YOU HAVE NO REASON TO COMMENT ON LEGAL ISSUE.

      you're an idiot.

    17. Re:What did Apple say about this? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      you're an idiot.

      No, that is obviously false. But it is easy to see that you MichaelKristopeit204 are less intelligent than the average 2 year old, especially in regards to proper capitalization.

      facebook uses the display of the characters reading "face" ON EVERY SINGLE PAGE OF THEIR SERVICES.

      False. They use the word mark "Facebook" to describe their services, but they have yet to use the word mark "Face", which is distinctive.

      FB already have a registration and use of the Facebook word mark, and it is distinguishable and distinct from the word 'Face'.

    18. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      Does the ruling include Facetime?

      Nope, pretty clear that it doesn't. "Facetime" isn't "Face", nor is there any real likelihood of confusion.

    19. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Michae+Kristopeit · · Score: 1
      capitalization is the tool of the weak minded to aide their lacking comprehension skills. it does nothing to change logical meaning of any of the words i've strung into sentences.

      FB already have a registration and use of the Facebook word mark...

      and now they have the registration an use of the 'face' work mark... that mark is laying on top of the facebook work mark and always has. you're simply not capable to tell the difference because "FB" used the same color.

      you do not understand the law. the world works nothing like you wish it would.

      you're an idiot.

    20. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I congratulate you on finding the point he was making.

    21. Re:What did Apple say about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      facebook came first... if it hadn't, would apple still have called it facetime? if the exact same service and user base as facebook.com existed for camerabook.com, would apple have called it cameratime?

      No. "Face time" is an idiom that means "speak directly to someone who is in front of you." Eg, "I need to go spend some face time with my accountant." It has nothing to do with Facebook at all.

      It's in the same category: social networking. *ZING*

  24. Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just wait till Hannibal, Murdock and B.A. show up.
    IT WONT BE PRETTY!
    No one is to own Face!

  25. Doesn't have the same ring to it... by Pollux · · Score: 1

    Poor Plinkett. Guess he'll have to figure out another witty way of saying, "What's wrong with your face?"

    "What's wrong with your mug?" just doesn't work the same.

  26. Generic Word? by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Didn't Microsoft try this a while back with the word "windows"? Wasn't the result back then that "windows" was a common word and could not be used as a trademark? Wouldn't the same precedent apply here?

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    1. Re:Generic Word? by jisatsusha · · Score: 4, Informative

      There was no precedent, Microsoft paid Lindows to shut up and change their name out of court.

    2. Re:Generic Word? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      They went from retarded "Lindows" to even more retarded "Linspire"

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    3. Re:Generic Word? by MaXMC · · Score: 1

      The Swedish Company SP Fönster (SP Windows) tried to set up the site www.sp-windows.se in the 90:ies but got sued (or something like it) by MS Windows because it was to similar to www.windows.com.

      Microsoft makes an operating system called Windows..
      SP Fönster makes actual windows...

  27. damn. by nblender · · Score: 4, Funny

    So much for facebukkake.com...

    1. Re:damn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if it's a social networking site... which... hum....

    2. Re:damn. by Lost_In_Specs · · Score: 1

      And nothing of value was lost...

    3. Re:damn. by IllusionalForce · · Score: 0

      Sexual intercourse can be considered a highly social act.

    4. Re:damn. by Draek · · Score: 1

      I don't think they were referring to that kind of social networking.

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  28. http://www.youtwitface.com/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtwitface.com/

  29. Facebook is officially the place to "get 'faced" by swschrad · · Score: 1

    "dude, I was so 'faced last night. like I even posted about my boss."

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  30. Trademark office. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I suppose it's the same people, but the word is trademark. And proper nouns are what trademarks are for -- the word you're looking for is "common noun."

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  31. Facebook can have my face ... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    ... when they peal it of my cold, stiff, hairy ass!

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    1. Re:Facebook can have my face ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Wait, did you just call yourself an assface?

  32. faceitious ? by dbdweeb · · Score: 1

    Hopefully they were just being FACEtious.

  33. As Monty Python put it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sit on my face, and tell me that you love me
    I'll sit on your face and tell you I love you, too
    I love to hear you oralize
    When I'm between your thighs
    You blow me away

    Sit on my face and let my lips embrace you
    I'll sit on your face and then I'll love you truly
    Life can be fine if we both sixty-nine
    If we sit on our faces in all sorts of places and play
    'Till we're blown away

  34. AAAND LO!!! by unity100 · · Score: 1

    there were idiots defending the patent system still, when we argued that it had reached a ridicule point in which the ownership of common words and logic concepts are being granted. they were still arguing against it.

    im wondering, if, there is ANYone who can still come up with a half-straight argument for patent and trademark bullshit.

    1. Re:AAAND LO!!! by cappp · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Most of the complaints are arising out of ignorance of the law, and a little internet hyperbole thrown in for good measure. Facebook no more owns the word "face" than Microsoft owns "windows" or McDolands owns "big." The 1st Amendment and Fair Use standards still apply to trademark terms. What is being stopped here, however, is the specific use of a specific term in a specific instance. You're no longer allowed to create a social networking site using Face-, that's all. Hell, even that's not quite true - there are a number of legal routes to doing so if you wanted including challenging the trademark, Fair Use, concurrent use, geographic protections, different industry, and so on. The system is designed to protect consumers from deliberate confusion, and its a good one for all it's flaws. Sure it could do with a little revision but its equally important that people spend some time and actually understand the system they're slamming...inevitablly its not nearly as illogical, stupid, or flawed as some would have you believe.

      There's a great comment on TFA that really nails is. I'm reproducing it here for convenience:

      What Facebook are trying to trademark is the use of the word "face" in electronic applications (Telecommunication as an alternative word for "online") offering social (i.e. facebook like) applications. This make a lot of sense. Just like many other generic terms used in a non trivial way. the word "face" is not descriptive in the way that "myface" describes (literally) an application where people may comment and interact socially. This is why also Apple's FaceTime will not breach the trademark, as it is using the word face literally (enabling the other side of the conversation to see your face) and not referring to the word Face in the non-dictionary meaning of it, which is attributed to facebook's phenomena (namely social networking). This doesn't give facebook the rights for the use of the word face for a face recognition software, or for other non related use. I personally agree that facebook should get the rights for the usage of the word face in the "social network" meaning, as they created this meaning, and protect them from people launching services named faceXXX or XXXface that may indicate relationship to facebook. This is just like caterpillar trademarking the word "cat" for construction and manufacturing equipment (but not getting rights for CatFeeder, or LolCats).

    2. Re:AAAND LO!!! by unity100 · · Score: 1

      What is being stopped here, however, is the specific use of a specific term in a specific instance. You're no longer allowed to create a social networking site using Face-, that's all. Hell, even that's not quite true - there are a number of legal routes to doing so if you wanted including challenging the trademark, Fair Use, concurrent use, geographic protections, different industry, and so on.

      you dont get it. facebook owns word face in telecommunications. someone else owns it in foodmaking. someone owns it in moviemaking. someone owns it in publishing ............ so the story goes and eventually you will see that all words are owned by someone in all fields.

      because, there is no end to this. anyone can buy a word for anything.

    3. Re:AAAND LO!!! by cappp · · Score: 2, Informative

      No. First, you can't trademark everything - there are limits built into the system. Second, trademarks can be ruled invalid or lost through non-use. Third, trademarks are targeted at industry and not the public.

      That's the big one and I'm constantly confused as to why people demand protections from the commercial sector but then rant and rampage when it's given to them. If you want to open your own website for family use and you call it FacetoFacewithUnity100 - that's allowed! If you want to call it FaceofMe and include thousands of pictures of your face...thats allowed! If you load it up with ads, call it FaceBoook and post links all over the 'net trying to get people to accidentally click - thats a commercial action, it's fraudulant, and it's not allowed. Trademark is designed to keep the public safe. Sure it benefits industry too, but ultimatly it's about ensuring we know where our products come from and can make informed decisions when selecting them. If some company owns Face in telecommunications, and another in cooking, and another in porn...it doesn't limit my use of the term in any way unless I go into business...and that's a whole different ball-game.

    4. Re:AAAND LO!!! by unity100 · · Score: 1

      holy shit.

      limits ? anyone can buy anything in a field. and because there are A LOT of fields, it will eventually come down to daily speak.

      can be ruled invalid or lost ? how many trademarks that are of consequence, lost ?

      you think you can put up a lot of pics of you and call it faceof me ? wait until someone trademarks it in that field. or yet, wait until some corp patents the blog concept. or word blog. or any technologies underlying it.

    5. Re:AAAND LO!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So will my new favourite website facebeard.com be screwed? Faces have beards right?

    6. Re:AAAND LO!!! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      That's the big one and I'm constantly confused as to why people demand protections from the commercial sector but then rant and rampage when it's given to them. If you want to open your own website for family use and you call it FacetoFacewithUnity100 - that's allowed! If you want to call it FaceofMe and include thousands of pictures of your face...thats allowed!

      Allowed but you still have to put up with barratry.

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    7. Re:AAAND LO!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I believe you can start a site using the tm'ed word if you make the distinction clear, say, facebookhaters.com. Maybe you can even turn this into a small social netowroking site (ianal).

    8. Re:AAAND LO!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 1st Amendment and Fair Use standards still apply to trademark terms.

      As interpreted by the Supremes??? Bullshit. They've already let the corps have their way with fair use. And if you think designated "free speech areas" miles distant from something about which people are peacefully protesting have any place in America, you're as full of shit as Zuckerberg.

    9. Re:AAAND LO!!! by alphatel · · Score: 1

      What is being stopped here, however, is the specific use of a specific term in a specific instance. You're no longer allowed to create a social networking site using Face-, that's all. Hell, even that's not quite true - there are a number of legal routes to doing so if you wanted including challenging the trademark, Fair Use, concurrent use, geographic protections, different industry, and so on. The system is designed to protect consumers from deliberate confusion, and its a good one for all it's flaws. Sure it could do with a little revision but its equally important that people spend some time and actually understand the system they're slamming...inevitablly its not nearly as illogical, stupid, or flawed as some would have you believe.

      That's all well and good, the problem is that Facebook is already abusing the few patents it owns for unrelated content. They will clearly be a copyright abuser when all is said and done. Windows is an Operating System. The number of Total Operating Systems created since 1980 number in the hundreds. Facebook is claiming rights to "telecommunication" for Face, there have been hundred of thousands, if not more, sites created for the purpose of Bringing Users Together (isn't that ALL the internet does???), and this would be the statistics for this year alone. What is similar? My getting a TM for Slots as "Any type of online game". I can now start abusing poker and roulette sites that even errantly use this term. Currently, over 100,000 domains have the word "Face" in them. Acknowledge that at least 20% of those could be sent a C&D for 20 cents and basically have little recourse except to fail. Fighting a TM costs more than a TM. This is the problem.

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    10. Re:AAAND LO!!! by Stellian · · Score: 1

      You're no longer allowed to create a social networking site using Face-, that's all

      I see nothing about "social networking" in the trademark application. "Telecommunication services, namely, providing online chat rooms and electronic bulletin boards for transmission of messages among computer users" is an incredibly broad domain, and can be twisted around to mean almost any kind of website or communication service. Is a company website called "Face2Face.com" not an electronic bulletin board ? Furthermore, if such a site includes a "Contact us" form or simply list an email address, does it not facilitate transmission of messages among computer users ? Most importantly, does such a trademark allow Facebook, a billion-dollar company to effectively bully and bankrupt in court any .*face.* website ? I say it absolutely does.

      The way it's granted, it will allow Facebook to block an online presence for almost any use of the word "face". Sure, the mom-and-pops across the street will not be targeted, but few successful companies in the 21st century can deny themselves an online presence. This gives Facebook an incredibly broad control over the word "face" all-across the business world. If a few thousand companies start doing this, the effect is a privatization of the vocabulary, a limited natural resource. I believe the individual right to self-enterprise is severely damaged when you can no longer sell your bricks online on NiceBricks.com and you are allowed only ParallelepipedicCeramicThingies.com

      You are also presuming Facebook will act rationally and enforce the trademark only where it makes business sense, to kill copy-cats. That expectation is unreasonable, because the law works regardless if the people following are sane or crazy. It's like granting the Second Amendment right to carry a firearm to a crazy person. It's absolutely plausible for a bankrupt Facebook to go for the kill and extort every "face" that looks weak enough to fold in court and pay-up. You are also presuming allot about how a service such as FaceTime is not breaking the trademark - it clearly does. Apple might be strong enough to assert the literal meaning in court, by a start-up with a similar service will promptly be squashed.
      Let's not forget a trademark needs constant vigilance to avoid it becoming generic (... how more generic that "face" can you get?).

      protect them from people launching services named faceXXX or XXXface that may indicate relationship to facebook

      Then why not grant the trademark in such a way that any faceXXX is forced to prominently disclaim any relationship with Facebook ? The way it's formulated, it blocks any faceXXX, and damages my right to associate and communicate about my clean and legal fetish. Who do you think you are, telling me how to live my life ?

      The system is designed to protect consumers from deliberate confusion, and its a good one for all it's flaws.

      A simple fix: no dictionary words!. The name-space is simply to limited to grant perpetual ownership of a word to a private individual, regardless of the domain. Two word combinations ? Sure: 5000 common words combine in almost 25.000.000 ways. Plenty for any start-up until the year 2450 when we populate the galaxy. It's your choice to name your business Bricks, don't expect protection and ownership of the word bricks. We can make an allowance for brands already granted, but stop granting more.

      (a different poster bellow)

      If you load it up with ads, call it FaceBoook and post links all over the 'net trying to get people to accidentally click - thats a commercial action, it's fraudulant, and it's not allowed.

      A simple trademark on FaceBook will cover that, it's an intentional attempt to deceit. I should be free to call my hamburger "Big Willie" or "Tasty Mac" (The fanboy's delight), it's clear for the consumer there are different products than the "Big Mac".

    11. Re:AAAND LO!!! by arisvega · · Score: 1

      You're no longer allowed to create a social networking site using Face-, that's all.

      You are wrong. I can create whatever I want, because I do not live in the USA and I am not subject to such moronic laws.

      Have you ever taken a moment to think that the United States of America != the whole planet?

      Now get off my face.

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    12. Re:AAAND LO!!! by cappp · · Score: 1

      IP protection is offered globally. Check out WIPO or TRIPS, they both facilitate the application of American trademarks around the world. If anything, you're more harshly effected by this ruling as those outside of the US lack the 1st Amendment protections of citizens. We have no info' on whether Facebook has bothered to get international protections specifically, or is just going to rely on American enforcement, but it's not true to think that this has no effect on you - in the same way that Coke hasn't got to worry when trading in Japan, or Microsoft in Russia.

    13. Re:AAAND LO!!! by arisvega · · Score: 1

      Check out WIPO or TRIPS, they both facilitate the application of American trademarks around the world.

      I did, and it just further proves my point. Non-elected UN council bodies (in fact, UN being US's brainchild) and the WTO does not have a saying or an inspection authority over my homeland's legislation; my homeland's constitution does, so do I through my voting rights.

      If anything, you're more harshly effected by this ruling as those outside of the US lack the 1st Amendment protections of citizens.

      I hope you realise how arrogant you sound- this inhibits your judgement; USA is not the cradle of civilization, and most certainly is not an example of civil rights, humanitarianism and free society- do take a good hard look at your legal system (which 'works' only in within US borders, btw) before you start preaching '1st amendment'.

      in the same way that Coke hasn't got to worry when trading in Japan, or Microsoft in Russia.

      I will not even use a counter-example from Asia- just remember LEGO and Canada

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    14. Re:AAAND LO!!! by Dave+Zan · · Score: 1

      you think you can put up a lot of pics of you and call it faceof me ? wait until someone trademarks it in that field. or yet, wait until some corp patents the blog concept. or word blog. or any technologies underlying it.

      Let them try, then. There are checks and balances inspite of seeming things to the contrary.

      One thing to remember is that common, dictionary words cannot be used as trademarks in what they're "commonly" or what their dictionary meaning know them for. But they can become such if used distinctively or outside their common or dictionary definitions.

      Don't we all live in the real, tangible world where it's filled with products and services using common, dictionary words? Surely some of us load gas at Shell...wash our clothes with Tide...buy a Brothers printer...use Windows (well, some) in our laptops...eat at Pizza Hut...the list goes on and on, and many of us buy those products or services!

      Unfortunately I'd agree all this furor seems to be over largely ignorance over how trademarks work. And that's inspite of some folks trying to "reasonably" explain how and why all this occurs.

      Rather than be angry over something arguably trivial, why not take some time to learn how this works? Or I guess it just feels more convenient and better to complain while not the least bit interested?

      Sheesh.

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  35. license "facetime" to apple? by MichaelKristopeit209 · · Score: 1

    it certainly connects people for communication and socialization...

  36. yeah do that by unity100 · · Score: 1

    continue to use the word face without worrying, out of the tech field, until they or others patent it in other fields too. then you can proceed to seek a replacement word, for that, well, word that you let go .

    1. Re:yeah do that by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      They didn't patent "face", they just registered a trademark. I believe evolution patented the face, but that patent expired many millions of years ago...

  37. Assbook to own "ass" by drdrgivemethenews · · Score: 1

    I can see it coming....

    http://assbook.spruz.com/

  38. OUTRAGEOUS! by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    There is no other word for it. If they want to own "Facebook" and no one else is using it already, fine I can live with that. But to claim "face" (and no doubt "book") goes beyond what should have ever been allowed.

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    1. Re:OUTRAGEOUS! by jc42 · · Score: 1

      But to claim "face" (and no doubt "book") goes beyond what should have ever been allowed.

      I'd wonder whether the real target of the facebook gang is the word "book". But that's so ludicrous that they had the sense not to tackle it first. The idea is to sneak up on it, by first registering "face", and getting a number of courts to agree with that. Then they can tackle the problem of getting control of "book" in an online setting, using the "face" court decisions as a precedent.

      In the long run, "book" is probably a much more valuable word to own than "face", which is much more limited in its online applicability. And there's a lot of precedent for getting rulings in obscure cases that most people don't care about, and then surprising the world when you use them as legal precedent for something that everyone is doing.

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  39. Talking Face-to-Face by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    If I talk face-to-face with someone else, do they now own that too?

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  40. That's ok by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    My competing service, Basefook, is not affected.

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  41. Oblig. by arcsimm · · Score: 2, Funny

    All your face are belong to Mark Zuckerberg.

    1. Re:Oblig. by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      Only if you, or your friends, post photos.

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  42. Absurd by ChrisMaple · · Score: 3, Informative

    "face" in a telecomunications context. Such as "interface"? Someone needs to beat them in the face with a clue stick.

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    1. Re:Absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about we just beat you?

      This protection is for usage of "Face*" types of names, which would obviously be ones meant to take advantage of the Facebook meme.

    2. Re:Absurd by fatp · · Score: 1

      and chat rooms / bulletin boards written with JaveServer Faces / ADF Faces

    3. Re:Absurd by meerling · · Score: 1

      Use a Clue-by-four, it has more impact than the stick.
      I've always wanted to get a cricket bat and engrave the word 'Clue' on it four times.

    4. Re:Absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      "face" in a telecomunications context. Such as "interface"? Someone needs to beat them in the face with a clue stick.

      No. Not at all. Not even remotely.

      Seriously, enough with the useless comments. Of all the IP laws, the one that is actually not all that bad (although still not perfect) is trademark law. But 99% of Slashdotters are clueless as to how it works, and your comment is a perfect example of that.

      Please, for the love of god and all that is holy, go read a little about how trademark law works, and then come back and make a comment.

    5. Re:Absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would require Slashtards to actually educate themselves. Most of these fucks think they already know everything.

    6. Re:Absurd by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

      I prefer four-by-four.
      Never underestimate the stopping-power of a well-aimed car.

  43. Isn't there already a trademark for "Face"? by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

    Isn't there already an international "Face" trademark for the cosmetic company Face of Stockholm?

    1. Re:Isn't there already a trademark for "Face"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Possibly. Although, as the summary makes quite clear, this trademark applies to telecommunications applications relating to social networking. This is a quite distinct field of use from cosmetics. Therefore there will be no problem for either party.

      Trademark law is really just a codification of the existing tort of "passing off" your business as another to take advantage of their reputation and advertising. The registration process only exists to give a definitive answer as to who owns a particular branding to avoid lengthy arguments in court. That means that compared with copyright it is relatively sane and rational - trademarks that aren't defended lapse, trademarks that are descriptive are invalid etc.

  44. LAME by a2joe · · Score: 0

    That's LAME.

  45. vertexbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone quickly trademark vertex and edge before we lose geometry!

    1. Re:vertexbook by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

      "Edge" already has enough trademark problems thanks to Tim Langdell.

  46. aw shit! by ohiovr · · Score: 1

    So I can't have a site named FaceFuck.com?

    1. Re:aw shit! by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Sure, but you can't have your visitors play a simulated farm game with friends they've never met. Is that going to be a problem for your FaceFuck.com site?

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  47. I read that as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook to own YOUR FACE!

  48. Apple should be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cannot wait to see Apple vs Facebook regarding "FaceTime"

  49. Watch the world explode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iFace

  50. Hackers and lawyers unite by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    Its time to deface facebook

    1. Re:Hackers and lawyers unite by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

      Its time to deface facebook.

      Too late, it's already happened. Oops, my bad. That's the way it always looks.

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  51. Someone has to say it... by r3g3x · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Does this mean that Facebook is claiming "ALL YOUR FACE ARE BELONGING TO US?"

    1. Re:Someone has to say it... by Dave+Zan · · Score: 1

      NO. And they never claimed that.

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  52. does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that Japan has lost face?

  53. In related news ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... popular social network sits on Face.

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  54. to avoid the patent troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I vote for Countenanceregister

  55. "I pity the fool by Compaqt · · Score: 3, Funny

    who thinks he has a trademark on Face."

    A friend of Templeton Peck.

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  56. At the risk of being facetious... by karl.auerbach · · Score: 1

    At the risk of being facetious - I guess they will own face to face meetings, saving face, face-offs, face time.

    I wonder what Janus (the god with two faces) thinks about this?

    1. Re:At the risk of being facetious... by cpghost · · Score: 1

      I wonder what Janus (the god with two faces) thinks about this?

      Especially when poor Janus will get hit not by one, but by two lawsuits at a time...

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  57. Prior art by Datamonstar · · Score: 1

    This guy may have something to say about that. So would these guys. Neither of whom would I want to be messing with.

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  58. Re:No, not really by DavidRawling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the rage is more about the over-reaching grab for everything - it's not that they want "Facebook" they want Face{EVERYTHING} (and {EVERYTHING}book) - and these words are often used as part of a larger word or phrase, for example (just some normal words that are in use, let alone "created" words like facebook):

    • faceplant
    • face to face
    • facecloth
    • facedown
    • faceless
    • facelift
    • facemask
    • faceplate
    • faceup
    • FaceTime - hmm, where's the Apple lawsuit I wonder? - "Getting face time" has been in use long before facebook.

    Let's *ace it, *ace is a pretty common word or syllable, and claiming otherwise is a bald-*aced lie. Same with *ook! LittleBlack*ook.com is probably in trouble (given Teach*ook is in court), the GoReadA*ook.org foundation is up *hit creek ... and where shall it stop?

  59. Face Off by TechNit · · Score: 1

    Face Off Facebook.....

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  60. Oblig. by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Things just go from bad to worse for FriendFace.

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  61. facebook is a common noun by Compaqt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The nuttiest thing about this is that "facebook" is a common noun. It's not used in all areas as a synonym for "yearbook", but it is in some.

    Before Facebook, a facebook was simply a compilation of pictures of members of a class to allow them to get to know each other.

    Basically, if you have money, there is a different (self-made) law for you. It's basically might makes right, but with only the threat of violence as opposed to actual bloodshed.

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    1. Re:facebook is a common noun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A facebook is typically just a directory, not a "memory" or retrospective, like a yearbook is, and therefore is handed at the beginning of the year.

      Most Americans don't go to boarding schools with a student body from all reaches of the globe, so they've never heard of a "facebook" before and just assume it is a yearbook. Most public and regional private schools don't bother with facebooks both due to lack of necessity and economics.

      Zuckerburg went to Exeter and then to Harvard. Ask any prep-school fuckface what a facebook is. It's not a yearbook. They have those too.

  62. The Aftermath: by cuckundu · · Score: 1

    In other news, Apple has recently trademarked the letter "i".

    1. Re:The Aftermath: by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Well ths s terrble...too bad poltcans ddn't do somethng to stop ths horrfc abuse of p rghts...

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  63. Re:No, not really by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 2, Funny

    Facial. Peter North is not pleased.

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  64. Wow... by interval1066 · · Score: 1

    What a bad ruling.

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  65. Silver Lining? by iroll · · Score: 1

    Take a break for a second, haters, and consider this: a million-fold reduction in awful "Facex" products being shoveled out the door. I feel no sympathy for all the rubes who thought they had hit gold with "xbook," either.

    I wish Apple had a trademark that could kill off all of the iProducts. It's like every marketing moron in the world suddenly got a promotion for pitching us iFood, iSoda, iPants, iComedies over iCable on iTVs, and iTrucks with iForce engines (fuck you, Toyota!).

    The world has enough latent stupidity that it can certainly do without more iPowered Faceblogged Douchebooks.

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    1. Re:Silver Lining? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I sympathize with you, but I'd rather restore sensible IP laws, even if it means allowing all the iMeToos and MeTooBooks.

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  66. FriendFace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or more importantly, FriendFace?

  67. Suits me fine by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

    CountenanceCodex has a more ominous ring to it, anyway.

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  68. Faceparty predates facebook by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know how International trademark claims work but I doubt that this is going to be applicable in the UK on the basis that use of the word "face" in the title of a social networking site predates Facebook.

    UK social networking site Faceparty: launched 2000
    US* social networking site Facebook: launched 2004
    *(later international)

    Secondly, I understand how "Facebook" can be a trademark, I understand how the Facebook logo/logo-type can be a trademark, but how can "Face" be trademarked. It just seems stupid. What next? Is G.E. going to trademark the letter G? Slashdot trademark the word "Slash"? Microsoft trademark the word "Micro"?

    1. Re:Faceparty predates facebook by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Is G.E. going to trademark the letter G?

      Thanks for giving them ideas.
      Now how am I supposed to Oogle porn?

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    2. Re:Faceparty predates facebook by dave25 · · Score: 1

      Not forgetting www.face-pic.com and www.facelink.com both > 10 years old now..

    3. Re:Faceparty predates facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the only reason Microsoft hasn't tried to trademark soft or micro is because they're know what would happen to their epeen.com rating.

  69. Apple Moderators? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Perhaps there are lots of moderators from Apple at the moment. I doubt they would find a suggestion that they will need to rename 'FaceTime' to 'ArseTime' so amusing. ;-)

    1. Re:Apple Moderators? by teachknowlegy · · Score: 1

      Well, they already have laptops nicknamed road Apples, so why don't they embrace it?

    2. Re:Apple Moderators? by Phopojijo · · Score: 1

      Because that would mean that their just released Facetime for Mac would be called Arsetime for Roadapples.

  70. Motoring or cars? by embolalia · · Score: 1

    I assume the "motoring or cars" exception must mean there's another site out there that *is* related to motoring or cars. Anyone know what it is? Now I'm curious...

  71. New Wikipedia entry! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    USPTO = United States Pandar and (Rough)Trade Office

  72. Fair use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously: I can't see how they can trademark a term intended to parody them, unless commerce already carries more weight than the right to free speech.

  73. Don't forget... by Zancarius · · Score: 1

    Don't forget "saving face," which is supremely important in Asian cultures.

    Though I suspect China might just laugh Facebook out the door if they were to slap 'em with a fee...

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  74. Customer facing applications by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    American geeks will have to get more innovative with their language or face extinction.

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  75. "face" is 1500 years old. by MadMaverick9 · · Score: 1
    How can anybody trademark a word that has been around for approx. 1500 years.

    Old English (450-1100 AD)

    History of the English Language
    Aren't patents / trademarks supposed to be for new inventions? Something that hasn't been seen before.
    This just shows how screwed up the patent / trademark system is.

  76. FACEOFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh NO It's a FACEOFF

  77. They already own "book", now "face" too? by mykos · · Score: 1
  78. What a coincidence! by Alsee · · Score: 1

    I have a trademark on "Brain" for usages in "Governmental services, namely, registering trademarks".

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    1. Re:What a coincidence! by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

      Do you also own uranium mining rights in the atlantic ocean? Because you'd have a better chance of making any money there.

  79. apt-cache show compface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Description: Compress/decompress images for mailheaders, user tools
    > Converts 48x48 .xbm format (X bitmap) files to a compressed format
    > that can be placed in your X-Face: mail header. Some mailreaders,
    > like exmh will then display this image when the user is reading your mail.
    > Tag: interface::commandline, role::program, scope::utility, use::compressing, use::converting, works-with::{image,image:raster,mail}

    I guess Zuckerberg will be suing everyone using emacs.

  80. common .. by TiPros · · Score: 1

    DumbFace, DirtyFace, UglyFace all illegal ??? ... common ..

  81. Re:No, not really by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Informative

    "created" words like facebook

    Actually, facebook is a real word. Not created at all. It's like a college yearbook, but created and distributed with contact info, allowing people to contact each other in college and potentially after they've graduated. "Facebook (R)" is just a facebook on the web (which morphed into a social network, and added people who aren't in college).

  82. Is it pitchforks and torches time? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Let's storm the castle and kill this monster!

    ...oohhh, shiny!

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  83. Re:No, not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck fuckerberg! Youre giving Microsoft bad ideas man.

  84. Good thing.... by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    Good thing that they didn't get awarded the term "Farce".

    My killer social website, FarceTwatSpace, is still safe.

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  85. Trademark offices staffed by idiots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idiots abound don't they?

    I would ignore this completely and let them make a fool of themselves trying to police it.

    For a start a trademark needs to be original and not a simple commonly used term, especially one that we all have out front.

    Before a trademark office can approve anything they first need to consider how the trademark will affect current usage, and if this isn't just a sensationalist press release (it won't really be passed), then the staff at the trademarks office can start addressing each other as "idiot".

    So in this light don't they mean that they will be registering "Facebook" in which case the author of the article needs to get his tits on straight.

  86. Oblig Friendface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNgCnY1lPg[/url]

  87. AAAAND YOU'RE A MORON by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

    there were idiots defending the patent system still, when we argued that it had reached a ridicule point in which the ownership of common words and logic concepts are being granted. they were still arguing against it.

    Yeah... most of those "idiots" realize that there's a difference between "trademarks" and "patents" even though the same governmental agency governs them. What fools. Incidentally, I've got some alcohol or tobacco for you to put in your mouth. Or that other thing from the same agency, but I'm sure the difference is irrelevant to you.

    1. Re:AAAAND YOU'RE A MORON by unity100 · · Score: 1

      there is no difference in between them. patents, copyright, trademarks, all grant ownership of concepts, intangible ideas, words to private parties.

      concepts are things that constitute part of complex object construction in abstract space. they are themselves complex constructs derived from earlier concepts. the lower patent granting goes, the more basic objects will be granted. then, the owners of these patents will increasingly be owning rights to all complex constructs derived from these.

      thats, feudalizing the thinking process of mankind. nothing else.

      i would have detailed more about the copyright and trademarks by going on, but the title of your post discourages me from expecting logic from you. the above should be enough to clear doubts in the minds of people who are confused about the subject matter. its not intended for your own benefit.

      learn some manners, before spewing shit on internet next time, if you want to be taken seriously and participate in a discussion.

  88. Re:No, not really by ArundelCastle · · Score: 1

    Also "Congressional Facebooks" have been in use since before the internet existed. Lots of politicians coming and going to keep track of. I'd send you a link as evidence, but unfortunately it's going to take Google a while to add a search filter for "not as registered trademark". :(

  89. Vs. say... by ADRA · · Score: 1

    Windows for example. Why is this 'news' again?

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  90. Prior art? by N+Monkey · · Score: 1

    VisageVolume

    "visage" means *ace (sorry, *acebook now owns that word)

    "volume" means book (unless Amazon owns that word, oh wait, doesn't Brazil own the word Amazon? Or was that the ancient Greeks? I'm getting confused)

    Or we could use "CountenanceCodex"

    I was just thinking that if someone made a copy of all the very first pages of the publications in the world, and then stuck them all in the one volume, that would then be a "preface book", which clearly must be "pre facebook".

  91. Face........ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    without any doubts I think Mr. Dirk Benedict has the full rights to this word.

  92. Finally ... by larppaxyz · · Score: 0

    ... it's FaceTime!

  93. First offenders already found by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

    After Facebook gets the "Face" trademark, they can start sueing right away. These businesses (in Oregon only; first google hit) have been using the word "Face" in their business names for many years already, so clearly they are violating Facebooks trademark.

    http://egov.sos.state.or.us/br/pkg_web_name_srch_inq.do_name_srch?p_name=FACE&p_regist_nbr=&p_srch=PHASE1&p_print=FALSE&p_entity_status=ACTINA

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  94. Re:http://www.famalegoods.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck is a "famale"? Do you seriously expect to sell anything to the West when you can't even spell simple words correctly?

    Stupid slant-eyed fucker.

  95. Oh great by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    So I can expect the copyright police to turn up when I say "sit on my face baby" to my bitch.

  96. And What About Dial Face? by havana9 · · Score: 1

    There is also Dial Face a telephone maker in Milan, started in 1909 as Western Electric Italiana. Actually Face is an acronym for "Fabbrica Apparecchiature Comunicazioni Elettriche" (Electrical Coomunication Appliances Factory)...

  97. I can't face it... by Auldclootie · · Score: 1

    Surely a face-saving solution can be negotiated to the current face-off between the unacceptable face of capitalism and the about-face proponents of ...(face-palm) ...face to face negotiations on the ownership of 'face' - we are currently facing... There I've said it - while you were all just wondering what face to put upon it...

  98. Close down the FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess that means the FBI will have to be shut down. No more Face(R) recognition software.

  99. Couldn't resist: FaceBook's planned offers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    • the FacePad (a place to store your face...)
    • the FaceMug (pronounced fah-smug)
    • the FacePhone/FaceBerry

    And of course, the number one kicker, in secret cooperation with an unnamed high-tech company:
      the FacePalm!

  100. Re:No, not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $DO || ! $DO ; try();
    > try: command not found

    Best sig I've seen in a long time. Excellent Star Wars reference:)

  101. Re:Facepalm! Sueing the military..... by sempir · · Score: 1

    Lets face it.....I doot the Canadians will ever sue their military!

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  102. Uh oh - I see it coming.. by cheros · · Score: 1

    Next up:

    EasyFace goes to court - who will win? :)

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  103. This. by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

    Face Face Face Face FACE!!! Sue me now, Zuckerberg.

  104. There is a way to end this nonsense by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

    There is a way to end this nonsense. Since terms like "face" and "book" have now become off limits and the sole property of companies like Facebook and Apple, etc. All others should stop using them and as a matter of strict public policy substitute the word "____" or "_____" when discussing them. That way these corporations will have to pay each time they want to advertise rather than having the general public and the news media do it for them. Perhaps, then the desire to own words won't seem like such an attractive proposition. Otherwise at the current rate freedom of speech won't mean anything as the entire dictionary will be owned by someone and you won't be able to open your mouth to say "Yahoo", or oops I mean "______". Bad habits are hard to break, but I'm working on it.

  105. Re:No, not really by DavidRawling · · Score: 1

    Curious. As an Australian, I don't believe I've seen the word before the advent of FB. If nothing else, its usage in Australia is uncommon. At least I learned something today.

  106. Trademark is... by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
    to identify the product as belong to a specific company.

    It is an advantage when a company has a good reputation - it lets people know that you can trust this tablet PC because Apple made it (if you like Apple.)

    Giving Facebook a trademark is kind of like giving Betamax, "The Adventures of Pluto Nash", or "Adolf Hitler"

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  107. Im going to start my own social networking site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and im going to call it Farceborked

  108. fesses bouc by lau1 · · Score: 1

    faecesbook? scatological but correct

  109. Prior art by ppanon · · Score: 1

    I think I smell the material for an A-Team sequel movie. Faceman wants his name back, fool!

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  110. We're in the age of Popplers and Zitzzers by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Look at the mainstream products, services and companies with names that look like open-source project name rejects: Kijiji, FourSquare, TomTom, Angieslist, Kudzu (would have been a good name for Facebook, an unstoppable, invasive, destructive parasitic weed), Koodo (sp?), Skype, Shazam, Zoosk, the list goes on.

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  111. Re:First "Book" and now "Face"? - needs renaming by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    Gee - we can't use 'Face', and we can't use 'book'. I know! Let's call the world's most popular social networking site 'Fecebag'!

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  112. the trademark should only affect competitors.... by squash_me_quickly · · Score: 1

    This means the trademark so be limited to only involving:
    1) companies that have no off-line presence
    2) companies whose web-sites do nothing useful
    3) companies whose web-sites which provide no useful product or service
    4) companies who promote "friending" any random person in the world for no intelligent reason
    5) companies whose logo could mistaken for facebooks logo
    ..... (continue ad nauseum)

    and everyone else should be allowed to use the word "book" :)

    WARNING, idiotic "joke" bellow.
    Facebook.... consider this a slap in the "face, book" me for it.

  113. Mod Duke Nukem Redundant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your face, your ass, whats the difference?

  114. Watch out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you use that thing on the front of your head to communicate as part of a social network, you're diluting the brand, and you're going to get your ass sued!

  115. What about other languages? by hat_eater · · Score: 1

    If I create FaceciWCzerni (that's Men In Black in Polish), a social network for Polish Catholic priests, will I have problems? I mean, of course I will, but will I additionally have to face litigation for trademark infringement?

  116. Only one thing to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FACEpalm...